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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #250 on: April 08, 2019, 06:29:14 AM »
So you’re saying you didn’t have one on your suburban and it rolled over?  ;)

See what I did there Don?  I justified your work.


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #251 on: April 08, 2019, 07:22:38 AM »
So you’re saying you didn’t have one on your suburban and it rolled over?  ;)

See what I did there Don?  I justified your work.


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that’s what you took away from all that..? hahaha

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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #252 on: April 08, 2019, 08:12:05 AM »
yah Dave,,,, she was crossing a creek on a road here with a cement pad on the creek bottom and the water pushed the truck off the pad....it got hung. She then climbed onto the roof and took a running jump and took a swim. About 30 min later the rising water rolled the truck off the pad and it headed down stream. No real loss, she got out safely and it was a Burb with IFS

We learned from this...she now owns a water proof phone and we moved LoL

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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #253 on: April 08, 2019, 08:32:46 AM »
yah Dave,,,, she was crossing a creek on a road here with a cement pad on the creek bottom and the water pushed the truck off the pad....it got hung. She then climbed onto the roof and took a running jump and took a swim. About 30 min later the rising water rolled the truck off the pad and it headed down stream. No real loss, she got out safely and it was a Burb with IFS

We learned from this...she now owns a water proof phone and we moved LoL
Man, that's a story!
I don't think a panhard or anything short of a tug boat could have prevented the "Roll over."

I am facing challenges this week...

Haircut this morning (Loss of 3 hrs work)
Sports banquet tonight (Loss of 2.5 hours work)
Talent show tomorrow evening (another 2.5 hours lost time)
Breakfast with a friend (Self inflicted 2+ hour loss)
Baby's first bath (Who knows)
...Other daughter poppin out her new baby boy...Loss of daze...
So you’re saying you didn’t have one on your suburban and it rolled over?  ;)

See what I did there Don?  I justified your work.


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #254 on: April 08, 2019, 10:32:05 AM »
I call liar liar on that.  No way with as little hair as you have that a haircut will take that long


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #255 on: April 08, 2019, 07:34:15 PM »
Panhard bar looks good.  Not sure I concur on the bag placement, but keep us posted


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Me too. Might add some variables you don't want.

That size sticker on the hood, nice but extend the clear and make it matt, no glare!

Koot, do you have pictures??
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #256 on: April 08, 2019, 07:38:53 PM »
I call liar liar on that.  No way with as little hair as you have that a haircut will take that long


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #257 on: April 08, 2019, 07:44:09 PM »
Pics of what Kay's old burb?   We may have some, would have to dig around on some old hard drives. It looked like a standard issue mid 2000's burb with a small lift and a Warn front winch bumper. We decided in Colorado that a IFS front axle was useless off road so we never did many mods past what was required to go camping.

I have a old square body burb now (1990) that I was going to build but decided I prefer a pickup for off road exploration so I guess I should sell it LoL. Anyone need a burb project...? 


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #258 on: April 08, 2019, 08:00:17 PM »
Pics of her on the hood!!  :laugh:

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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #259 on: April 08, 2019, 09:48:05 PM »
I call liar liar on that.  No way with as little hair as you have that a haircut will take that long


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OK, so I'm gonna have to prove it
Drive over to the barber shop 16 min
Had to wait 4 min for it to open
Waited almost 10 min while the ladies got their stuff together enough to call me back
Haircut, shampoo, dryin. greasin' it up with whatever that was, maybe 15 min.
From the haircut over to Subway. In and out in I'd say 20 min.
Drive back home, another 16 min

So right there 2 hours and 36 min!

Ha!
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #260 on: April 08, 2019, 09:51:38 PM »
I took all of your comments to heart and decided to can the method I was using to mount the air bag and start all over.

This is the stackup I decided to put together:
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #261 on: April 08, 2019, 09:52:44 PM »
Continued:
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #262 on: April 08, 2019, 09:55:59 PM »
Now, I had to work on the U-Bolt length and those U-bolt plates are just set up pieces, I have a new set enroute. But that setup is pretty much a doable configuration after a lot of measuring and fitting.

The Air spring poly "cups" worked perfectly, and will allow for the air spring to be attached on the top only
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #263 on: April 08, 2019, 09:57:52 PM »
Welded up the rectangle tubing feet onto the air spring lower mount

I cut circular holes through the top to allow easy installation of the nuts
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #264 on: April 08, 2019, 09:59:09 PM »
The daystar air bag bucket is held to the lower weight bearing mount by one 3/8" bolt
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #265 on: April 08, 2019, 10:01:12 PM »
With the axle resting on the jack, the top mount is pushed pretty far north, so I removed the jack stand and drooped out the spring to give me ease in working the mount in the lower position
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #266 on: April 08, 2019, 10:03:08 PM »
Having done so, when I attached the upper mount to the frame, and supported the axle once again in a loaded position, the air bag collapsed into this position. Air pressure will even things out a bit, but this is acceptable
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #267 on: April 08, 2019, 10:04:05 PM »
And the driver's side:
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #268 on: April 08, 2019, 10:06:04 PM »
I agree that this mounting location looks much better than the off center position I had come up with first stab at it.

Thing is looking beefy!

So tomorrow should see the rear sway bar going in, along with possibly the aft battery.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #269 on: April 08, 2019, 10:25:56 PM »
Looks good.  Interesting you had to fab up the lower mount.  Thought the kit would have been a plug and play.

Sway bar will be much more important than a track bar unless you are nascar racing
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« Reply #270 on: April 08, 2019, 10:34:17 PM »
Yeah....looks, will work much better. See....one day ya got it done, AND a hair cut.


I spend 10 min getting a hair cut.... Kays quick/fast and works cheap LoL


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #271 on: April 08, 2019, 10:44:37 PM »
I call liar liar on that.  No way with as little hair as you have that a haircut will take that long


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OK, so I'm gonna have to prove it
Drive over to the barber shop 16 min
Had to wait 4 min for it to open
Waited almost 10 min while the ladies got their stuff together enough to call me back
Haircut, shampoo, dryin. greasin' it up with whatever that was, maybe 15 min.
From the haircut over to Subway. In and out in I'd say 20 min.
Drive back home, another 16 min

So right there 2 hours and 36 min!

Ha!

I was going to let this slide, but no.  I have to draw the line.

You weren't at a barber shop as evidenced by the text above.

Don was at a SALON.  Get a mani-pedi while you were there, big guy?

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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #272 on: April 08, 2019, 10:54:09 PM »
I call liar liar on that.  No way with as little hair as you have that a haircut will take that long


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OK, so I'm gonna have to prove it
Drive over to the barber shop 16 min
Had to wait 4 min for it to open
Waited almost 10 min while the ladies got their stuff together enough to call me back
Haircut, shampoo, dryin. greasin' it up with whatever that was, maybe 15 min.
From the haircut over to Subway. In and out in I'd say 20 min.
Drive back home, another 16 min

So right there 2 hours and 36 min!

Ha!

I was going to let this slide, but no.  I have to draw the line.

You weren't at a barber shop as evidenced by the text above.

Don was at a SALON.  Get a mani-pedi while you were there, big guy?

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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #273 on: April 09, 2019, 01:03:23 AM »
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #274 on: April 09, 2019, 08:58:53 AM »
Not sure I like what's been goin' on in my absence here!

Have to give it some thought

All I know is I have a convictable offence here. Just have to decide what to do about it.

And like usual it involves a Dave.

His ways have lured a once reputable member into low places...

Pity.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #275 on: April 09, 2019, 08:59:47 AM »
Looks good.  Interesting you had to fab up the lower mount.  Thought the kit would have been a plug and play.

Sway bar will be much more important than a track bar unless you are nascar racing
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« Reply #276 on: April 09, 2019, 09:19:20 PM »
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #277 on: April 09, 2019, 09:57:58 PM »
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Sorry to keep you waiting JR

Pre-Ranger had a talent show. Darned kid placed! There were six acts that qualified to move on the the next step, where they will perform for the entire school.

So, today was all about the rear sway bar placement and fabbing up. It will go here in this open space behind the axle, and below the factory aux fuel tank
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« Reply #278 on: April 09, 2019, 10:01:23 PM »
I'll be using a bar sourced from a F350 and some Addco universal sway bar mounts
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« Reply #279 on: April 09, 2019, 10:02:27 PM »
I like how it unshrouds the rear diff cover
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« Reply #280 on: April 09, 2019, 10:04:31 PM »
To create an endlink, I used some more Addco sway bar links, with one end cut off and the old shock mounts I took off the front LCA. Bolt that all together and point it straight up
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #281 on: April 09, 2019, 10:06:18 PM »
Using a section of DOM tubing and some 1/4" plate, I created a crossmember to support the sway bar end link mounts
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« Reply #282 on: April 09, 2019, 10:08:09 PM »
I then created a jig to jack the crossmember up into place on the frame and hold it there while I drilled some holes, then made up some "L" nuts to slide into the holes from above and be able to tighten without having to use a wrench in those tight quarters.
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« Reply #283 on: April 09, 2019, 10:10:07 PM »
I am actually using 3/8" Frame bolts as they are called.

The DOM will stiffen things up back there and add a layer of protection for the exposed fuel tank, and another one which is yet to be installed
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« Reply #284 on: April 09, 2019, 10:11:31 PM »
No real welding yet, just tack welds for the most part. But clearances from other parts is all good
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« Reply #285 on: April 09, 2019, 10:13:45 PM »
Going to be a good show from behind. I can only imagine how many folks tuck in behind the burb on the open road to get a peek at all that business in the back

Leme see:

Dana 80
Full Float Axle
7" lift
Panhard bar
Sway bar
Air bags
Flipped shackles
who knows what else...
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #286 on: April 09, 2019, 10:17:04 PM »
So, I just keep looking at the lower Panhard bar mount. A single shear affair with a long bolt. I know it's factory put together like that, but I keep wanting to make it a double shear

I even made up a quick bracket to tie the free end of the bolt into the air bag mount.

Don't know if I'm going to use it though...Thinking...
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« Reply #287 on: April 09, 2019, 10:18:33 PM »
Getting closer!!!!!
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #288 on: April 09, 2019, 11:17:25 PM »
Won't be top heavy with all that down there.

I may have to do airbags too. The deaver springs are made for flexing and have no overload. And I will be towing.

Sure will be cool to have it sitting on the wheels.
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« Reply #289 on: April 10, 2019, 08:54:42 AM »
Won't be top heavy with all that down there.

I may have to do airbags too. The deaver springs are made for flexing and have no overload. And I will be towing.

Sure will be cool to have it sitting on the wheels.
Indeed!
I have had two of the tires mounted to put the front on the ground so I get an idea of the height of the thing
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #290 on: April 10, 2019, 09:21:39 AM »
Might wanna turn the upper link mounts 90* if it's not too late. They need to flex around corners.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #291 on: April 10, 2019, 12:23:07 PM »
Not a bad point.  However with all the hardware including the panhard rod, I’m not sure the axle will actually ever move


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« Reply #292 on: April 10, 2019, 12:53:20 PM »
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« Reply #293 on: April 10, 2019, 01:07:33 PM »
No pictures,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #294 on: April 10, 2019, 02:22:00 PM »
Top orientation is good for what I was seeing while jacking it around

Panhard isn't going to allow the axle to push in or out

Another note: Got the rear bumper dropped off at Line-X. Going with their premium UV stable glossy finish.

Have some work to do on the front bumper yet. so I'll be hanging it and doing a couple of things
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #295 on: April 10, 2019, 03:49:48 PM »
Illl just leave this here
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« Reply #296 on: April 10, 2019, 03:58:23 PM »
Don did own a hummer a time back, could it be?
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #297 on: April 10, 2019, 10:34:30 PM »
Illl just leave this here
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #298 on: April 10, 2019, 10:42:00 PM »
So, the rear bumper was dropped off at the LineX business in Erlanger, KY. More on this shop later. Good bunch of guys, and one of the owners, or prehaps, "The Owner" Brian showed me around his one year old operation. He has quite a lot going on with his operation and my first of what will likely be plenty of jobs there is about to begin. My bumper is scheduled for the booth tomorrow

While that is happening, I decided to make some changes to Brian's excellent front bumper build.

You may recall that he builds bumpers out of 7 gage steel, but for my build I had him make the core and structural pieces out of the 7 gage, but everything else out of 10 gage. I wanted to save weight, and I have to say, this front unit is a lot lighter than I envisioned.

But it gives up some strength in the wings, so I am going to create a bottom plate to tie all that together and give me more stable pushing power when i want to nudge something out of the way.

And before I settle on side mounting my winch, something Brian worked out with the SmittyBilt folks...I want to see if I can fit it in the traditional location. I'll mount it up after strengthening it and take a crack at it.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #299 on: April 10, 2019, 10:43:44 PM »
With that said, I disassembled the rear suspension once again and dropped the mutant axle out to do the diff change out

Here it is being torn down
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