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Title: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 17, 2015, 11:22:29 AM
My favorite aircraft!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 17, 2015, 11:25:41 AM
....
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 17, 2015, 11:27:36 AM
Good Stuff!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 17, 2015, 11:29:50 AM
Hooks
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 17, 2015, 11:32:00 AM
And the nose art is coming back!

Black Hawks and Apaches aren't big enough for any art work!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 17, 2015, 11:34:39 AM
No piluts alowd!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 17, 2015, 11:37:08 AM
Sentimental bunch!

Oh, and never, never, EVER, fall asleep in the back of a Chinook in flight!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 17, 2015, 11:38:51 AM
NSDQ
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 17, 2015, 11:41:16 AM
OK, so there's a MD 530 in there...Flew them too and like em'
Just not as much
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: stlaser on December 17, 2015, 02:37:27 PM
Where's the tanks? ;D
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 17, 2015, 09:40:57 PM
Where's the tanks? ;D
I have some tank pics!
I'll put them up in my Rut-Ro thread
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on December 17, 2015, 09:43:25 PM
too bad there aren't any back scratching videos....or videos of someone dragging a tree around...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 17, 2015, 09:51:33 PM
And More!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 17, 2015, 09:53:37 PM
I like em'!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 17, 2015, 09:55:38 PM
Second pic dedicated to Bobby
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on December 17, 2015, 09:57:20 PM
Nice
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 17, 2015, 09:57:49 PM
I flew for "Darkhorse Airlines"
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 17, 2015, 09:59:37 PM
How's the load hangin'?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: wilsonphil on December 18, 2015, 02:21:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOhQWTBGEf8

And why we have a dynamics Dept
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 18, 2015, 02:59:18 PM
^^^You had to go and remind me of that.... >:(
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 18, 2015, 03:01:15 PM
OK, Back to happy Chinook thoughts...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 18, 2015, 03:02:58 PM
Until I can find some more:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: cudakidd53 on December 19, 2015, 04:51:05 PM
I laughed HARD at the "formation of aviation warrants about to conduct PT" photo!  ;D
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 19, 2015, 06:45:28 PM
I laughed HARD at the "formation of aviation warrants about to conduct PT" photo!  ;D
It is so true!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 30, 2015, 07:47:12 PM
Rob, the gentleman from NZ I met in Kandahar just sent me these:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Nate on December 30, 2015, 10:27:12 PM
I have said it before and I will say it again!

dustoff is the only way that I will ever willingly ride in that damned catfish and when that happens, murphy blanked everything !!!!!!!!!!!!

by the way, how is duane doing? 
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on December 31, 2015, 08:20:40 AM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualty_evacuation

Hmm. Learned something new today about yalls brotherhood.

Nate with just a few months to go if you need medevac something indeed has gone wrong.


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Nate on December 31, 2015, 10:55:07 AM
don,

I think this one may be even worse than the other one I shared...?

https://youtu.be/C2W6pDiopw0
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 31, 2015, 03:47:08 PM
don,

I think this one may be even worse than the other one I shared...?

https://youtu.be/C2W6pDiopw0
That's pretty bad...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: cudakidd53 on January 01, 2016, 07:29:18 AM
I now need that product because of that Ad......
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on January 01, 2016, 10:19:40 PM
Don. The NS guys that crashed in the Bin Laden compound had trained in a mock up with a chain link fence but the air was not stable when they went in because it was a solid fence. Can you talk us thorough how that fence can cause that instability that led to the copter going down? 


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 02, 2016, 09:41:16 AM
The Brits can fly these things too!

But I saw a couple of my alma-mater making it into the scenes (Probes)

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10203724579673570
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 10, 2016, 11:00:10 AM
I am just going to leave this right here (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/10/3abea42f7ae40435eac208989289c91e.jpg)


Raising boys into RealMen!!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 10, 2016, 11:08:13 AM
Typical...

And not unusual

Been there did that...

One day the film crew shows up on my ramp. They want to get "Action shots" of pilots flying the aircraft.
They had us dress up all tactical like get in the aircraft and start it up. The guy with the camera filmed from below the aircraft, shooting up through the "Chin" bubble while we ran the aircraft flat pitch sitting on the ground. Those "Action/flying" scenes made it to be some recruitment advertisement.

All of that stuff is canned. You don't think Hollywood or any add firm photographers are going to get anywhere near a combat zone, do you?
When I think of those people, an older Don would have thought of a word that started with a P, has some S'es in it and ended in "ies"
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on January 10, 2016, 11:44:37 AM
Pansies


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 10, 2016, 11:59:11 AM
Pansies


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Like that...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 10, 2016, 01:12:54 PM
I seen that photo this morning and just couldn't resist, I had to poke the bear


Raising boys into RealMen!!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 10, 2016, 10:40:47 PM
I seen that photo this morning and just couldn't resist, I had to poke the bear


Raising boys into RealMen!!
Understood

All's fair in love, war, and web sites!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: BobbyB on January 11, 2016, 12:51:45 PM
I am just going to leave this right here

That's also the crawl phase of training for an air assault operation.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 17, 2016, 11:14:20 AM
Whose Chinook?

Which Armee is this?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: BobbyB on January 17, 2016, 01:28:33 PM
Whose Chinook?

Which Armee is this?

The hard to read writing on the side vaguely looks like German or Dutch.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 17, 2016, 01:50:26 PM
OOOHH, you're close

Been to Kandahar?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: BobbyB on January 17, 2016, 03:00:45 PM
OOOHH, you're close

Been to Kandahar?

Yep
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 17, 2016, 04:32:42 PM
They were parked there
Along with the Dutch cougars (new tricked out Pumas)
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 08, 2016, 08:44:21 AM
Just ran across this A/R tape

Made my skin crawl all over again...Man I hated doing that!

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=chinook+aerial+refuelling&&view=detail&mid=E6F29050EF6C92D64EA8E6F29050EF6C92D64EA8&FORM=VRDGAR
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: cudakidd53 on February 08, 2016, 11:27:11 AM
Seems like they could give ya a longer hose?  I'd give that a 9.5 on the pucker factor scale - what about you Don, you did it!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 08, 2016, 03:17:18 PM
Seems like they could give ya a longer hose?  I'd give that a 9.5 on the pucker factor scale - what about you Don, you did it!
Oh yea, I used to do that, and while blacked out on NVG...even in clouds! Those crazy C130 guys were airplane flying, and never realized helicopters are afraid of clouds!
Yea one night I was "On the hose" up around 13,000 near Albuquerque. I was fighting the thing because of turbulence and it had been a long flight to that point. So while I'm on the hose, all I'm looking at is the hose which you have to push in and maintain it within a 10 foot distance, and trying to stay on the wing horizon which means keep the little batwing engine oil cooler right on the horizon, all the while looking right down the dump tube. The rotor blades get down to 15'4" from the herc. So while all this is happening, he goes into a cloud and starts a turn. All I am looking at is that wing maybe 35 feet away and very close to my tip path plane so I wouldn't know if we were inside a volcano!

Kevin, the other pilot says, "Hang in there Big D, only about 120 degrees of turn left." "Turn? We in a turn?" is all I could say. Like I said I wouldn't have known if we were upside down. Aerial Refueling is really difficult to do. I was the 13th guy ever qualified in the US Army
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on February 08, 2016, 07:13:30 PM
Man, they make it look so easy in the movies......
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 08, 2016, 10:37:16 PM
It's anything but easy
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: cj7ox on February 19, 2016, 03:52:37 PM
Seems like they could give ya a longer hose?  I'd give that a 9.5 on the pucker factor scale - what about you Don, you did it!
Oh yea, I used to do that, and while blacked out on NVG...even in clouds! Those crazy C130 guys were airplane flying, and never realized helicopters are afraid of clouds!
Yea one night I was "On the hose" up around 13,000 near Albuquerque. I was fighting the thing because of turbulence and it had been a long flight to that point. So while I'm on the hose, all I'm looking at is the hose which you have to push in and maintain it within a 10 foot distance, and trying to stay on the wing horizon which means keep the little batwing engine oil cooler right on the horizon, all the while looking right down the dump tube. The rotor blades get down to 15'4" from the herc. So while all this is happening, he goes into a cloud and starts a turn. All I am looking at is that wing maybe 35 feet away and very close to my tip path plane so I wouldn't know if we were inside a volcano!

Kevin, the other pilot says, "Hang in there Big D, only about 120 degrees of turn left." "Turn? We in a turn?" is all I could say. Like I said I wouldn't have known if we were upside down. Aerial Refueling is really difficult to do. I was the 13th guy ever qualified in the US Army

Wow. That's all I can say...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 28, 2016, 03:17:03 PM
Moar
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 28, 2016, 03:19:07 PM
Like em'
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 28, 2016, 03:21:12 PM
Beautiful!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on March 28, 2016, 03:23:15 PM
Nice pics again.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 28, 2016, 03:24:16 PM
D's and F's
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: stlaser on March 28, 2016, 05:23:12 PM
Hey, that middle picture..... Is that why you keep us DOT's around? :o
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 28, 2016, 08:18:47 PM
the most impressive to me is that photo of the electrical tower being carried...

Whats the story with the car in dubai?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 28, 2016, 10:16:41 PM
Hey, that middle picture..... Is that why you keep us DOT's around? :o
Never thought about it...I guess you folks have added value!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 28, 2016, 10:18:02 PM
the most impressive to me is that photo of the electrical tower being carried...

Whats the story with the car in dubai?
Race car transport??

Who knows...

I used to buy 4WD parts and big car parts out west, then pack em in a hook and fly them back home.

Probably just something like that...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 29, 2016, 07:33:46 AM
http://ink361.com/app/users/ig-12647280/kblock43/photos/ig-1206766848409052462_12647280

Ken Block apparently put his Hoonicorn in one in the UK for a shoot for Top Gear.
https://youtu.be/_hf6ke1-i3E
heres the Dubai video.  Love the AMG police cars...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on March 29, 2016, 01:16:45 PM
Do you always buy car parts with drivers in them?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 29, 2016, 03:04:51 PM
Do you always buy car parts with drivers in them?
I bought one or two of them with mice inside. That's roughly equivalent to the new American male, right?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Nate on April 17, 2016, 03:58:37 PM
https://www.facebook.com/AviationTactical/posts/771844889583872
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on April 17, 2016, 09:05:18 PM
https://www.facebook.com/AviationTactical/posts/771844889583872
Nate, When I was a young wipper snapper in the task force (160th) I was jogging one day back on Clarksville base. Underground complex where the Navee used to store important stuff. A couple of those bunkers were ours. One was open so I just jogged right in. The whole Guns-a-go-go weapons systems were sitting right there. Obviously somewone was thinking of fitting out one of our classified birds with the cool stuff...We never did...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on April 26, 2016, 09:40:01 PM
Not a Chinook, but maybe me...Not sure

Photographer was Ned Dawson, filming us on a mission. Gunner is getting ready to light up someone's world and burn the left arm off the pilot sitting there!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on April 26, 2016, 09:46:24 PM
Also not a Chinook, but I flew S-Model Cobras for a short time...cool aircraft
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on April 26, 2016, 09:49:04 PM
Yes, Trump owned three Chinooks!

Used them to shuttle folks from the airport to Atlantic city to his casino
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on April 26, 2016, 09:51:29 PM
A1E Skyraider

Could carry anything

Apparently a toilet bowl as well!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on April 26, 2016, 09:54:08 PM
Different flavors

Some regular

Some special...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on April 26, 2016, 09:56:08 PM
Red stripes = Fire fighting aircraft
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on April 26, 2016, 09:58:47 PM
Landing on that LP-H on the "45" is not as easy as it may seem. The ship is not stationary! Nossir, it's moving along, normally 15-17 knots
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on April 26, 2016, 10:01:39 PM
The white one with the Chinese markings was a Boeing Demo bird built for China.

I actually flew that bird. Repainted and reissued to the Army, we named it "China Girl"
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on April 26, 2016, 10:03:45 PM
Cool!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on April 26, 2016, 10:05:58 PM
Is that Bobby on the aft rope?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Nate on April 26, 2016, 11:12:20 PM
there is just TTTTTTTTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much comedy in this photo!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on April 26, 2016, 11:14:28 PM
Wish I could find the pic of my dads 34 getting lifted out of a field in socal by a 53.

I was building a radio control 46 in the red/white like the 47 above. Lost in house fire.

 
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: EL TATE on April 27, 2016, 12:06:04 PM
That comic is hilarious to many industries! diggin' the blue Friday pic
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on April 27, 2016, 12:40:32 PM
That comic is hilarious to many industries! diggin' the blue Friday pic
I'm sure you would!

Must be the Chinook unit up in Tacoma, or possibly my boys 4/160, a new hook unit which was stood up there
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Wilbur on April 27, 2016, 12:45:22 PM
Just love these pics!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: wilsonphil on April 27, 2016, 12:47:38 PM
there is just TTTTTTTTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much comedy in this photo!

But I don't see any prop wash??
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on April 27, 2016, 01:25:31 PM
there is just TTTTTTTTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much comedy in this photo!

But I don't see any prop wash??
Rotor wash: Same thing
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: BobbyB on April 27, 2016, 02:38:55 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/5NXzvbz.jpg)
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: cudakidd53 on April 27, 2016, 04:13:28 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/5NXzvbz.jpg)

The only thing I can figure that's light in the Infantry is maybe sleep?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on April 27, 2016, 06:05:31 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/5NXzvbz.jpg)

The only thing I can figure that's light in the Infantry is maybe sleep?
Some other things:
Food
Time off
Response to Excuses
Compassion from pilots
Showers
Warmth in the winter
Comfort anytime
Support from just about anybody when in the bush
Care from the VA
Replacement uniforms
Sympathy
Compassion from others
Normal language devoid of four letter words
Well, for that matter, intelligent conversation at all!
Dry feet
Chewing gum...I heard many a grunt complain about not enough gum
Cleanliness
vehicular transportation
Dates on weekends

But for all that, there are a few things they are heavy on:
Honor
Respect
Integrity
Feared
Sense of value
Knowing they did their duty
Self control of fear
Manning up
Being someone worthy of that dirty flag on their shoulders
Courage
Sense of Duty
They won't quit (Not smart enough to, I'd suspect  ;-)
THE RIGHT STUFF
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Bob Smith on April 27, 2016, 08:53:24 PM
And a thank you to each and every one of them. God bless them all
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on April 28, 2016, 08:08:59 AM
And a thank you to each and every one of them. God bless them all
I believe you were one as well Bob?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on May 05, 2016, 07:50:34 PM
Mission is called "Amphib-2"
I've done that a hundred times if I've done it once
I think these guys are dutch...maybe British
Nose of the aircraft is different...

https://www.facebook.com/AndradeRacing405/videos/1226217854056356/
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on May 06, 2016, 06:26:19 PM
I bet the ground crew hates salt water in the craft....
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: OldKooT on May 09, 2016, 07:23:29 AM
At the air show this weekend I think my grandsons favorite craft was a toss up between the Chinook doing ferry duty for the jump crews and the B25 "Paper Doll" that he got a special tour through because Grandpa knows people LoL

The one Chinook they were giving walk through tours with, that aircraft saw some serious foot traffic. There was a line two blocks long for most of the day. Grand islands Air Guard did a stand up job of hospitality and educating folks on the Chinook. You'd be proud Don.

Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on May 09, 2016, 09:23:11 AM
At the air show this weekend I think my grandsons favorite craft was a toss up between the Chinook doing ferry duty for the jump crews and the B25 "Paper Doll" that he got a special tour through because Grandpa knows people LoL

The one Chinook they were giving walk through tours with, that aircraft saw some serious foot traffic. There was a line two blocks long for most of the day. Grand islands Air Guard did a stand up job of hospitality and educating folks on the Chinook. You'd be proud Don.



Cool!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: KensAuto on May 11, 2016, 11:31:56 PM
The Chinook is being highlighted on the show "Alaska Mega Machines" tonight. Pretty cool stuff. This one has skies!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on May 12, 2016, 08:38:10 AM
The Chinook is being highlighted on the show "Alaska Mega Machines" tonight. Pretty cool stuff. This one has skies!
Those guys do rescue work up on Mt. McKinley. They are part of what we call the HART (High Altitude Rescue Team) Skis, obviously for landing on snowy surfaces.

A normal Chinook has a service ceiling of 20,000 feet due to the system that pressurizes the hydraulic system on the low side. But, I know of some people who took one to 27,000 feet one day...

I Used to do para drops from 20,000 from time to time in one
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on May 12, 2016, 08:41:05 AM
Brit Hook

Second is a AW-139, another fav of mine, I got my type rating in it at the factory near Milan, Italy.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on May 17, 2016, 07:01:12 PM
Moar
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on May 17, 2016, 07:02:30 PM
Hooks...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on May 17, 2016, 07:03:53 PM
I post em' as I find em'
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on May 17, 2016, 07:05:27 PM
Magnificent aircraft!

The last pic is a result of the Obama inspired military budget cuts
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on May 17, 2016, 07:08:06 PM
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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on May 17, 2016, 07:09:37 PM
Some old B models from Vietnam. I actually flew some B models in the Instructor Pilot course...Scary, those early hooks!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on May 17, 2016, 07:12:29 PM
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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on May 17, 2016, 07:13:33 PM
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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: stlaser on May 17, 2016, 07:18:05 PM
Hey Norm, I think we now know why Don likes his trucks big & heavy.....

Question Don, at the regional track meet for my daughter up in Lyons CO. A chinook flew over with what looked like a large orange ball dangling from its under carriage. It flew past southwest then about 40 mins later it flew north again. Any idea what that ball hanging down there was for?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Wilbur on May 17, 2016, 07:25:06 PM
Is that a weight for a hook so it doesn't fly around when it doesn't have a load?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on May 17, 2016, 07:41:03 PM
Hey Norm, I think we now know why Don likes his trucks big & heavy.....

Question Don, at the regional track meet for my daughter up in Lyons CO. A chinook flew over with what looked like a large orange ball dangling from its under carriage. It flew past southwest then about 40 mins later it flew north again. Any idea what that ball hanging down there was for?
That was a 1750 gallon water bucket, called a "Bambi-Bucket" The crew dips the bucket into a pond, then scoops up a load of water then flies it to a fire location where they release it via hydraulic doors located in the bucket itself. I posted a hook "Fire bombing" with the Bambi bucket in this set...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on May 17, 2016, 07:42:24 PM
Is that a weight for a hook so it doesn't fly around when it doesn't have a load?
No, they fly around just fine without a load!

It's never been attempted, but there is a good chance the hook could set a time to climb record if anyone ever actually tried. That bird will climb like a homesick angel!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: stlaser on May 17, 2016, 08:15:07 PM
Found it, post 93 bottom pic. Thanks for the clarification!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on May 18, 2016, 10:08:09 PM
Found it, post 93 bottom pic. Thanks for the clarification!
Also post #94, 4th pic down. That is a Bambi full of water about 100 ft below the aircraft. The last pic shows the flight engineer laying on the floor looking out the center hook hatch at the bucket. He is talking to the pilot telling him if the load is swaying or stable. Heck you can tell when 18,000 lbs on the end of a 100 foot stick starts to oscillate. It moves the whole aircraft!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on May 19, 2016, 12:28:12 PM
Some Crew Chief humor I came across...like 40 pics, I'll share:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on May 19, 2016, 12:31:31 PM
Finger, tongue, mike cord...You have to lick it and smear the saliva around inside to get the contacts to actually work!

Crew chief obviously got his vest hung up onto the cargo hook and got an unexpected ride...But I'd have NO personal knowledge of that ever heppening to me...

That's a forward blade mounted on the aft head!  :o
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on May 19, 2016, 12:34:55 PM
Rubber chicken pitot tube covers...clever!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on May 19, 2016, 12:38:13 PM
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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on May 19, 2016, 12:40:21 PM
Anyone figure out the last pic?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on May 19, 2016, 12:42:53 PM
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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on May 19, 2016, 12:45:15 PM
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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on May 19, 2016, 12:47:18 PM
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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on May 19, 2016, 01:18:14 PM
Isn't the safety wire supposed to be wound into the hole?

Love the hooker card. 33 men on board, right.

Was that Dustoffs Catfish getting filet'd?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Nate on May 19, 2016, 01:46:48 PM
them some good ones!

yes I have licked it to stick it

poor job on the lacing wire, its not even connected

those nuggets had a bad day with that inventory! 

Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on May 19, 2016, 02:22:19 PM
Isn't the safety wire supposed to be wound into the hole?

Love the hooker card. 33 men on board, right.

Was that Dustoffs Catfish getting filet'd?
Correct to the safety wire job. The nut is saftied to itself and not to the lock tab which would have prevented it from coming loose!

The Hawk is an Air Force HH-60. It appears to have been sling loaded and somehow ended up delivered upside down...strap broke??? Or some thunderstorm might have blown through and toppled it...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on May 19, 2016, 02:48:16 PM
The head looks padded like they meant to do it, but you would think some other support would be there too??
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: BobbyB on May 19, 2016, 04:24:39 PM
Psh you can cram more people in the back, unless they're carrying overstuffed rucks... again the whole "light" infantry thing.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on May 19, 2016, 05:37:52 PM
Psh you can cram more people in the back, unless they're carrying overstuffed rucks... again the whole "light" infantry thing.
I know
Our record is 109!
40-60 rangers was pretty normal
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on May 19, 2016, 05:40:52 PM
The head looks padded like they meant to do it, but you would think some other support would be there too??
Noticed that
So head is wrapped up like that for maintenance, for sling load operations and when being shipped onboard, ships...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on May 19, 2016, 06:55:24 PM
Don't dead fish float tummy up,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 10, 2016, 08:35:02 AM
...Where the idea of "Star Wars" actually came from!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 10, 2016, 08:36:57 AM
Ode to Mechanics and Crew Chiefs!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 10, 2016, 08:39:29 AM
Big rotor system. Blades are over 27 feet long each. Rotor system spans 60 feet...and there's two of them!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 10, 2016, 08:42:13 AM
We study the duck to prefect our landing technique.

"Gear Down, three green
Flaps 45
Landing check complete"
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 10, 2016, 08:43:51 AM
Flying these things in the places they ask us to fly is expensive!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: wilsonphil on June 10, 2016, 09:50:16 AM
Anyone figure out the last pic?
Yep that would be one of those jam nuts on a rod end that needs to be safetied to itsself, nothing ever comes loose on a helio-copter anyway.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 13, 2016, 11:48:49 AM
Anyone figure out the last pic?
Yep that would be one of those jam nuts on a rod end that needs to be safetied to itsself, nothing ever comes loose on a helio-copter anyway.

Nothing  :o
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on June 13, 2016, 12:01:53 PM
Just to DOT things up,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: KensAuto on June 13, 2016, 12:20:35 PM
That's not a Hook JR !!! shame on you.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 13, 2016, 12:27:43 PM
Blasphemy!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on June 13, 2016, 12:40:27 PM
Well, at least it is right side up and a BIG gun.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: wilsonphil on June 13, 2016, 02:49:37 PM
Anyone figure out the last pic?
Yep that would be one of those jam nuts on a rod end that needs to be safetied to itsself, nothing ever comes loose on a helio-copter anyway.

Nothing  :o

Other than the nut behind the controls I have seen that come loose many times!!!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 20, 2016, 01:44:40 PM
Drink anyone?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on June 20, 2016, 04:51:59 PM
Wow. Nice. I've ridden through there with the Ride2Recovery. Guy next to me was shot 5 times by that scumbag Nadal Hassan


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: cudakidd53 on June 20, 2016, 09:02:17 PM
Did you drive down that way Don?  Good stuff there- 2nd favorite to what we shared at the hide!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 20, 2016, 09:17:44 PM
Did you drive down that way Don?  Good stuff there- 2nd favorite to what we shared at the hide!
Nope, but thinking of ridin' the Triumph down to Ft. Campbell next week to eat a Schnitzel and maybe lay some flowers at the Night Stalker Memorial.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 20, 2016, 10:36:43 PM
Ran across some more
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 20, 2016, 10:37:56 PM
One of these applies to me!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 20, 2016, 10:38:56 PM
Purdy
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 20, 2016, 10:40:18 PM
And a CH-46 makes an appearance
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 20, 2016, 10:41:47 PM
I like em in green!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 20, 2016, 10:43:08 PM
Ozzie was a hooker???
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 20, 2016, 10:44:34 PM
That's one good lookin' paint job!

First pic lookslike a pair of 107's or 122's just exploded
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 20, 2016, 10:46:55 PM
Last pic: Aussies hot doggin' again!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 20, 2016, 10:48:39 PM
NASA too!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 20, 2016, 10:49:38 PM
No, we don't!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 20, 2016, 10:50:21 PM
Non PC, that's for sure!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on June 21, 2016, 01:12:56 AM
I like the one with the boy.

Did you notice the moon shot and the 1 with the 2 grunts are the same pics?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 21, 2016, 08:26:03 AM
I like the one with the boy.

Did you notice the moon shot and the 1 with the 2 grunts are the same pics?
I think they used the actual first lunar landing which was done with a Chinook, and photo-shopped that to create that unrealistic photo of a hook dustin' up the Stan...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: cj7ox on June 21, 2016, 05:52:57 PM
Non PC, that's for sure!
Love this! Political correctness is the downfall of our Nation and culture!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 28, 2016, 10:32:58 AM
BV-234
Civilian version of the Army CH-47. Notice all the windows...
BV234 seats 44
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: BobbyB on June 28, 2016, 11:22:29 AM
You know with the Chinook's large cabin, ability to hold a bunch of people/associated crap, ability to settle into the water and wallow around like a fat duck, the USCG would like it for rescue and etc.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 28, 2016, 02:19:22 PM
You know with the Chinook's large cabin, ability to hold a bunch of people/associated crap, ability to settle into the water and wallow around like a fat duck, the USCG would like it for rescue and etc.

Chinook = Very Expensive

USCG = No budget
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: BobbyB on June 28, 2016, 02:36:34 PM
You know with the Chinook's large cabin, ability to hold a bunch of people/associated crap, ability to settle into the water and wallow around like a fat duck, the USCG would like it for rescue and etc.

Chinook = Very Expensive

USCG = No budget

They don't have to be top of the line, gucci geared out.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 28, 2016, 09:42:04 PM
Found this

SFC Murrales dog tag found on his body

KIA Afghanistan, 160th SOAR Medic
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on June 28, 2016, 10:55:39 PM
Downer. Rest in peace SFC murrales
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Wilbur on July 19, 2016, 12:12:44 PM
Downer. Rest in peace SFC murrales

^^THIS^^
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Wilbur on July 19, 2016, 12:13:23 PM
Don I saw this and thought of you. Not all your favorite birds but pretty well done I thought....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYFdldfYEJk

Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on July 19, 2016, 08:17:45 PM
^^^^Old Footage there. Lots of 101st Airborne aircraft in that

Koul stuff. Flying it is even neater!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on July 19, 2016, 08:20:17 PM
Cool stuff
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on July 19, 2016, 08:22:19 PM
Time for Moar pics
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on July 19, 2016, 08:24:00 PM
And more

The one carrying the MI-24 Hind, is the one I crashed in, the opening night of Desert Storm...The one in the book
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on July 19, 2016, 08:27:00 PM
Isn't this fun!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on July 19, 2016, 08:29:42 PM
And all of you get to pay for all of this!

And I got to burn up all those dollars!

How cool is that!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Nate on July 19, 2016, 08:50:11 PM
my question would be, why would you go and disrespect duanes dog like that........................SMH.....................hasn't he suffered enough just for having to drive the catfish.................................
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on July 20, 2016, 02:01:13 AM
Is that guy in the 500 jumping out or sitting on something?

What is the item on the front port side of the 47, a sensor of some type?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on July 20, 2016, 09:15:43 AM
Is that guy in the 500 jumping out or sitting on something?

What is the item on the front port side of the 47, a sensor of some type?
Our "Little Birds" have racks on the outside of the aircraft for troops

Left protrusion is the terrain following (As in zero visibility very low level) terrain avoidance radar. If you're in the mountains and the weather just went to zip, well you still just keep on truckin'  ;-))
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on July 20, 2016, 11:03:10 AM
Sweet
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on August 05, 2016, 09:08:54 PM
Found some more
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on August 05, 2016, 09:10:16 PM
And more
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on August 05, 2016, 09:12:11 PM
Chinooks hanging out with 53's...What's the world coming to?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on August 05, 2016, 09:15:58 PM
I was in the Varsity for three great years!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: cudakidd53 on August 06, 2016, 08:36:37 AM
That's a definite improvement for Chicago - Flying Hookers!  Now, if you'd slide down S & SW a few clicks from that location with a mini-gun and do some community service it'd be much appreciated.  Finish that run off with a trip to city hall and county offices..........
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on August 06, 2016, 08:59:12 AM
That's a definite improvement for Chicago - Flying Hookers!  Now, if you'd slide down S & SW a few clicks from that location with a mini-gun and do some community service it'd be much appreciated.  Finish that run off with a trip to city hall and county offices..........
OK, Mikey, I'll put in the request.

Can't guarantee an approval, but I can say, the troops would be willin'!

That pic is from an upcoming movie, entitled

"Chinooks take back America and make things great again"

Well, that may not be the exact name, but that is a "Created" scene from a movie to be...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on August 06, 2016, 01:35:31 PM
we could only wish.

Like the BW of the engine, is that IR?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on August 06, 2016, 02:41:34 PM
we could only wish.

Like the BW of the engine, is that IR?
Yes, IR looking at a FLIR screen.

The green is looking through NVG's, probably PVS-14's or maybe ANVIS-6 gen4
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 24, 2016, 02:46:43 PM
Happy Thanksgiving!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 24, 2016, 02:48:09 PM
Hammock...I wondered if those guys in the back ever did anything!  ;-))
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 24, 2016, 02:50:03 PM
Sorry to mess up the pic with those ugly Apaches and lawn darts
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on November 24, 2016, 02:54:24 PM
Nice pictures. Rosie never looked better, but could 1 heli pick her up?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 24, 2016, 03:17:13 PM
Nice pictures. Rosie never looked better, but could 1 heli pick her up?
We can get one time approvals for higher gross weights for short duration. But I'd think Rosie would nearly wreck a perfectly Chinook...Just look at what she did to hollywood!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on November 24, 2016, 03:33:49 PM
Well, hollywood  is a little more than short term to canada, but there are priorities. Maybe a C5 as the 17 would to small.

Have you noticed with the little O going out fly overs for public events have started again.

Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 24, 2016, 07:24:10 PM
Well, hollywood  is a little more than short term to canada, but there are priorities. Maybe a C5 as the 17 would to small.

Have you noticed with the little O going out fly overs for public events have started again.


Roger that!
Obama's as commander in chief stressed the importance of operational commanders having a green base (Which has nothing to do with killing folks)

Trump is all about efficiency. A strong and lethal military (Which hasn't killed anything in the past month) broadcasts a not so subtle message. That is strength! (And a willingness to look for any reason at all to kick your a$$)

Flyovers are an expression of power and strength. Something which our outgoing CIC was always ashamed of (Because his muslim doctrine tells him to be loyal only to Islam)
Well, that's my country boy take on it.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 24, 2016, 08:08:05 PM
Found some more
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 24, 2016, 08:10:27 PM
Pretty birds
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 24, 2016, 08:12:09 PM
That T-Shirt is TRUE

Have I seen that witch before? Possibly running for president?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 24, 2016, 08:13:37 PM
Air Force training...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 24, 2016, 08:15:11 PM
Where's the Chief???

Yup, that's Mary-Jo
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 24, 2016, 08:16:32 PM
You guys see all that coffee???????
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 24, 2016, 08:17:21 PM
One Moar:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on November 24, 2016, 09:30:05 PM
bet you had to search to find the 47 saving a Blackhawk, or not??

Is that a Don sighting above?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on November 24, 2016, 11:03:27 PM
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161125/7bac74376638507e65e7894ddb8de721.jpg)


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: stlaser on November 24, 2016, 11:10:54 PM
That the new Marine 1?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on November 24, 2016, 11:37:28 PM
And Big D is coming out of retirement.


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 25, 2016, 12:08:54 PM
That the new Marine 1?
He doesn't own them anymore. When he owned the Casino on Jersey shore, he would fly folks from the airport to the casino in those BV-234's. Note that the civilian only Chinook has a bunch of passenger windows. It carries 44 folks, has a lav and baggage storage. Those birds were sold to the Chinese I believe...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 25, 2016, 12:09:37 PM
And Big D is coming out of retirement.


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I'm not sure I ever actually made it into retirement. This follows you like a birth mark...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 08, 2016, 08:47:57 AM
Canadian Chinooks. I like their paint scheme
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 08, 2016, 08:49:54 AM
Last pic is camp Meir, Rainier at 10,000 feet
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 08, 2016, 08:51:18 AM
Oregon boys
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 08, 2016, 08:52:24 AM
First contact, send your best!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 08, 2016, 08:55:50 AM
Nose art...Gotta love nose art

My favs were:

Wierd Science B Co. 2/160 SOAR
Home sick angel, Innkeepers, An-Jin-Ri, Korea
Mammas Boys  A co 2/160 SOAR
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 08, 2016, 08:59:51 AM
True

Just had a thought

Ever notice how nose art tends toward images of our ladys?

So how exactly does that sync up with a military embracing gays and transvestites

My opinion: The military is here to kill our enemies, hopefully without getting sweaty while doing it. We ought to reverse the policies allowing gays and the sexually confused to openly serve.

But that's just me (and several million others)
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 08, 2016, 09:09:23 AM
Let me tell you about this guy in the pic. His name is Gary, a friend of mine. That pic was taken in Afghanistan in 2008. He had just returned from an assault. He had this dash cam thing set up. I watched the film. In it you can see a hajji setup and fire an RPG at Gary's aircraft. The streak goes right over the nose, pretty close. You can hear someone saying Oh F__k audibly. Keep in mind that front office has noise levels around 130 db.

So Gary was in the desert war. He was also in Vietnam, in 1969! He was a Marine infantryman, an enlisted guy. When Ka-sang was overrun by NVA forces, Gary was one of 4 guys who lived to tell about that. four men survived from an entire company of Marines! Gary went on to serve another tour as a Marine sergeant, again in Vietnam. He served from the 1960's and as a sixty something year old, was still flying combat sorties in Afghanistan!!!!!!!!!!!

A couple years later, while I was the lead for my organization flying helos in Kandahar, Gary showed up again as a contract pilot, flying H-3's for what was left of Black Water. The man is a Spartan. A legend, A true, down to the core Warrior. And he lives in an underground house in Tennessee that has shooting ranges all around it. I deeply respect this man! He literally served over 40 years
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: EL TATE on December 08, 2016, 11:20:56 AM
That's inspiring Don. Reminds me of Sam Elliot's portrayal of Basil L. Plumley in We Were Soldiers. Just too tough to die.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Wilbur on December 08, 2016, 12:32:08 PM
Very cool about Gary. We are fortunate to have men like him in the USA.

Don I have a stupid question....the engines on the back of the Chinooks....do they provide any thrust or is that simply exhaust and all forward power is from the rotors? I had never thought about it before but for some reason one of the ones on the last page made me wonder? I suspect not as the Canadian version seems to have the exhaust angled up a bit but just figured I would ask.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 08, 2016, 02:20:32 PM
Very cool about Gary. We are fortunate to have men like him in the USA.

Don I have a stupid question....the engines on the back of the Chinooks....do they provide any thrust or is that simply exhaust and all forward power is from the rotors? I had never thought about it before but for some reason one of the ones on the last page made me wonder? I suspect not as the Canadian version seems to have the exhaust angled up a bit but just figured I would ask.
No forward thrust per-see. Upward angled exhaust found on the Lycoming L-714 version of that engine deflects hot gases up to both reduce the IR signature (A joke, really) but more importantly, to prevent troops disembarking from being roasted on the spot. Yes, that does happen. I think upwards of 500F air can get all the way to the ground with straight back exhausts, whereas the upward tilt negates that somewhat
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on December 08, 2016, 11:42:44 PM
Smores! Right out the tail. Selfie stick, smore stick.


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: wilsonphil on January 05, 2017, 06:36:38 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/us-army-chinook-helicopter-upgrade-2017-1

getting like the B52
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 05, 2017, 08:12:46 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/us-army-chinook-helicopter-upgrade-2017-1

getting like the B52
And that thing from the triassic that is cruizin' in Loch Ness.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: OldKooT on January 05, 2017, 08:16:43 PM
Why fix whats not broke?

I imagine the day will come when a male in a speedo will be nose art. 
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 05, 2017, 08:19:58 PM
Why fix whats not broke?

I imagine the day will come when a male in a speedo will be nose art. 
I hope I never see that on that honorable bird!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: OldKooT on January 05, 2017, 08:25:18 PM
I for one completely agree.
Same subject...but different. Been a LOT of those Chinooks wandering around on weekends around here. My grandson hears one he always yells "gramps a twirly bird" He's 3 LoL

Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 05, 2017, 08:27:32 PM
I for one completely agree.
Same subject...but different. Been a LOT of those Chinooks wandering around on weekends around here. My grandson hears one he always yells "gramps a twirly bird" He's 3 LoL


Twirly bird...Love it!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 18, 2017, 08:36:52 AM
This "Hooker" thing is a movement!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 18, 2017, 08:38:45 AM
Magnificent!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 18, 2017, 08:40:23 AM
Lightening strike...Timing is everything!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 18, 2017, 08:42:27 AM
Many nations now operate this amazing aircraft

Sitting on the ramp in flight is an out of body like feeling. How many people get to experience views like this?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 18, 2017, 08:45:13 AM
Aft wheel landing training...Nerve racking...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 18, 2017, 08:48:06 AM
Guns-ah-Go-Go

Specially designed gunships from Vietnam

"Birth-Control" how appropriate!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 18, 2017, 08:50:54 AM
Is that Bobby or Blaine junkin' out over all that snow?

Grunts...

Actually, Jumpin-grunts...Special variety of the blunt instrument!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 18, 2017, 08:53:02 AM
Sometimes things go "Crunch"
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 18, 2017, 08:55:27 AM
Sante-Klaus!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 18, 2017, 08:58:02 AM
I think that last photo is of the bird that was lost on Roberts Ridge during Anaconda, Afghanistan
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on March 18, 2017, 11:06:26 PM
Don, do you have full size copy on the one showing the rain and lightning out the back? My kid loves it!!!!

JR
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 19, 2017, 05:45:00 PM
Don, do you have full size copy on the one showing the rain and lightning out the back? My kid loves it!!!!

JR
No, I copied that one, I think, from the CH-47 Chinook Crewmembers facebook site, which is a closed, member only site
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on April 01, 2017, 08:49:26 PM
...And some days the bear eats you!

Big Windy
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on April 01, 2017, 10:37:11 PM
Was that yours?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on April 02, 2017, 09:55:13 PM
Was that yours?
No
I never flew for Big Windy
And the one we pancaked just tore the under carriage all to heck and back. It remained right side up.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on April 03, 2017, 06:18:12 PM
Found some more:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on April 03, 2017, 06:20:04 PM
...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on April 03, 2017, 06:25:39 PM
The thing with wings was an experiment.

Called the Boeing 347 it is a stretched chinook with a variable geometry wing and two 4 blade rotors.

An aerodynamic principal called retreating blade stall and another force called "Compressibility" are physical factors which limit a helicopters maximum forward speed. Somewhere around 180-195 knots is pretty much it, well at least it used to be.

Today paddle blades, rotor blades with spoon looking apparatuses on the rotor tip delay the boundary layer separation which sets up the stall and improves forward speed somewhat

But this thing pushed 200 knots once if memory serves me correctly
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on April 03, 2017, 06:51:41 PM
Was that winged exp real? The fuse looks longer, 4 blade heads and there is a hump above the rear wheels.

Looks like a static display too with the wheels mounted up and no markings.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on April 03, 2017, 06:55:16 PM
Never mind; https://travelforaircraft.wordpress.com/2011/08/24/winged-chinook-write/
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on April 03, 2017, 09:20:38 PM
Yep, its real!
Retractable landing gear (dumb idea for a combat aircraft) and that gondola thing...That was a really bad idea
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on April 03, 2017, 09:22:01 PM
Parthenon?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on April 05, 2017, 08:30:03 PM
Cool bird
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on April 08, 2017, 08:58:24 AM
Sunset from the ramp:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 06, 2018, 11:33:54 PM
Talkin' about the nose low takeoff!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 06, 2018, 11:36:36 PM
I think I did my first roof top aft wheel landing only on a rooftop in LA in 1984...Stretching but I think it was on the Long Beach Holiday inn...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 06, 2018, 11:42:32 PM
Not a hook, but I remember a great time I had while training new Spec Ops recruits. We went to Jacksonville NAS in Florida. Everyone had a dunker day in the sim, then it was out into the bay where the candidate would jump into the water then be picked up by a little bird. I demonstrated how to do it. THen a little bird cane in and I hooked in. Later on you had to toe/heel climb the caving latter into the bird then was flown back to shore.

I'm waiting in the water and the LB arrives. I look up and see Col. Chuck Gant, the guy who did my book endorsement hanging out of the right seat with this big grin on his face. I hooked up and gave him a thumbs up and away he goes...Not according to plan there Colonel! He flew me like a mad dog, twenty feet below that LB then lowered me back in the surf not far from the navy ramp, I swam to shore. I guess he did that to scare the crap out of the recruits.

Joining special operations in not for the faint of heart!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 06, 2018, 11:50:33 PM
Not a hook either, but I saw this in the NightStalker page and thought of CW5 Randy Jones.
He was likely he single best gun pilot the US Army ever created. Wounded twice in Mogadishu, Somalia during the blackhawk down engagement, he would have been nominated for the Congressional medal of honor, but sinde MSG Shughart, and MSG Gordon were nominated, the SOAR backed off so as not to pull any honor from those gallant men of Delta.

It was a right of passage in the 160th to take a "gun Ride" with Randy. HE was the best!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 06, 2018, 11:51:49 PM
I see the boyz are still holding some high standards

NSDQ
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 06, 2018, 11:55:55 PM
If you happen to have hijacked this ship, then this is the last sight your mortal body will ever have. Two seconds from this moment, you'll be dead!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 06, 2018, 11:58:28 PM
No Sir, BlackHawks are not gunships

snicker-snicker...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 07, 2018, 12:06:03 AM
https://youtu.be/DnrR_KD3rFY
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 07, 2018, 12:13:00 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9iR5CN5pLM
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 07, 2018, 12:16:27 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_wvyX_Rx-k
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 07, 2018, 12:20:44 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su8ELJygfqs
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Farmer Jon on March 07, 2018, 07:06:58 AM
One flew over the farm the other day. There is a guard unit out of Grand Island that has one. I think it was theirs. It was headed that way anyway. I had the chance to talk to some of the guys last summer. They brought their Chinook to the farm show and let everyone go through it. Great bunch of guys. Class act. They let kids and parents get in the cockpit and everything.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 07, 2018, 08:40:55 AM
Cool!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Nate on March 07, 2018, 09:28:10 AM
heres a couple from my pic collection.

the first pic is when we landed at a FOB in eastern Afghanistan called Orgun-E.  just over the mountains that you seen in the pic is Pakistan.

the other pics are of the pilots and actual crew when I was being instructed on preflight/postflight.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 07, 2018, 09:56:22 AM
Nate, I was over there a few times...Looking behind the camera, know those hills? We went T-Ban hunting up there a time or two...And ate at that mess hall and bought stuff at the PX which was better than the one at KAF!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Nate on March 07, 2018, 10:28:58 AM
i have been to every crap hole FOB from Kandahar to bagram and salerno (khost) to tarin kowt in a hook, not to mention some grid locations in those mountains.  shes a fat bottomed girl that can dance when trying to squeeze her in there.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 07, 2018, 11:15:29 AM
i have been to every crap hole FOB from Kandahar to bagram and salerno (khost) to tarin kowt in a hook, not to mention some grid locations in those mountains.  shes a fat bottomed girl that can dance when trying to squeeze her in there.
I'll be I had my AW-139 or gunship Huey in all of those as well!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Nate on March 07, 2018, 02:43:24 PM
i have been to every crap hole FOB from Kandahar to bagram and salerno (khost) to tarin kowt in a hook, not to mention some grid locations in those mountains.  shes a fat bottomed girl that can dance when trying to squeeze her in there.
I'll be I had my AW-139 or gunship Huey in all of those as well!

you are correct, I believe you and I have talked about this exact thing before.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 28, 2018, 08:17:17 PM
Found some more good ones:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 28, 2018, 08:18:40 PM
And these:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 28, 2018, 08:20:19 PM
White "Experimental" flight uniform!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 28, 2018, 08:22:08 PM
And the ever cool nose art. I'm so glad to see that stuff coming back into the world of combat aviation!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on June 28, 2018, 11:22:26 PM
 :likebutton:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on July 30, 2018, 05:19:56 PM
Found some more
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on July 30, 2018, 05:21:44 PM
And these
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on July 30, 2018, 05:23:09 PM
I'm the guy on the left
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on July 30, 2018, 05:24:45 PM
and these...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on July 30, 2018, 05:25:54 PM
The Navy's worst nightmare!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on July 30, 2018, 05:27:19 PM
Assault takeoff

Fast-rope approach
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on July 30, 2018, 05:59:41 PM
The Navy's worst nightmare!
2200 personnel. Of which 2000 were mechanics to keep those egg beaters operational!


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on July 30, 2018, 09:54:37 PM
The Navy's worst nightmare!
2200 personnel. Of which 2000 were mechanics to keep those egg beaters operational!


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And using a CV or CVN to carry US Army aircraft!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on October 10, 2018, 09:04:16 AM
Turbine engine powered!


https://www.facebook.com/RCNation941/videos/2155194841370063/
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on October 10, 2018, 11:11:45 AM
Cool, 5k of model there!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on October 10, 2018, 11:26:31 AM
Cool, 5k of model there!
Wow
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 11, 2018, 06:28:02 AM
Pretty cool


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 11, 2019, 09:51:22 AM
The Blue Angels have nothing on ma-boyz!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 11, 2019, 09:52:30 AM
koul
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 11, 2019, 09:53:36 AM
US Army aviation in yet another "Stan"
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 11, 2019, 09:54:40 AM
British Army CH-47C, Falklands, 1982
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 11, 2019, 09:55:30 AM
Now, that's a hood ornament!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 11, 2019, 09:56:18 AM
Infantry brigade commander's idea of what we can lift:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on January 11, 2019, 02:09:47 PM
 :likebutton:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: BobbyB on January 11, 2019, 03:28:11 PM
Infantry brigade commander's idea of what we can lift:

False the buildings look too nice, hence not an infantry area.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Nate on January 11, 2019, 06:48:24 PM
that CSM is not doing his job!

that grass looks horrible and needs more blood!

and why is there leaves in the rocks and when is the last time that those rocks have been turned? they are getting sunburnt!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 11, 2019, 09:37:06 PM
All that you two knuckleheads noticed were the buildings????
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Nate on January 11, 2019, 10:11:29 PM
oh no, I did notice the tiny flying school bus attached to the BIG yellow rock, as well as got the pun....
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 11, 2019, 10:15:43 PM
^^^ Typical... :cry:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Nate on January 11, 2019, 11:43:55 PM
did I miss something?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on January 12, 2019, 07:44:21 AM
calling Don a school bus driver....those sound like fighting words....

:popcorn
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 12, 2019, 09:35:18 AM
did I miss something?
I was offended by your racist/sexixt NCOist comment

Calling that CSM a he?

How do you know it was a he and not an "it" or a female, or a feminist female or a MSM (Metro sexual male) or a COWMP (Chauvinist old white male pig)

I'm intolerant of intolerance and of tolerance and any other "ance!"

;-)

Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Nate on January 12, 2019, 11:16:04 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: oklawall on January 19, 2019, 05:13:23 PM
There is an airplane on the Air Force base that has been used as Aircraft battle damage repair trainer for about the last 15 years and is no longer safe. They are talking about using a Chinook to come in and lift it to another area of the base so the airplane can be disassembled. I hope they do I would love to watch that
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Nate on January 19, 2019, 11:48:25 PM
Please video it so we can watch it
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 20, 2019, 09:27:07 AM
There is an airplane on the Air Force base that has been used as Aircraft battle damage repair trainer for about the last 15 years and is no longer safe. They are talking about using a Chinook to come in and lift it to another area of the base so the airplane can be disassembled. I hope they do I would love to watch that
What kind of airplane?
Things with wings do not always play nice with the almost 100mph rotor wash. Oftentimes they start flying with interesting outcomes.

A guy I knew had picked up a damaged huey and was carrying it single point. A huey is a pretty light load, even fully loaded. It requires a drogue chute to be attached to the tailboom so the nose stays pointed straight ahead, and forward speed is limited by the loads stability. As long as it behaves itself, the pilot will increase airspeed slowly until the load starts to occolite. When at that point you'd back off say five to ten knots and bore a long slow hole in the atmosphere onto your destination.

Well this huey was doing pretty well at 100 knots so they bumped it up a bit. The load remained stable but the added pressure broke the drogue chute line and just like that the load started to try and spin. It did some wild gyrations as they tried to slow down but when he saw the huey level with him outside of his window, he cut it loose.

This happened in Germany

Meanwhile below, in the everpresent winter mist and haze lied a quiet little German village. In that village lived the classic "little old lady" who was busy cooking, I believe. Well she heard a thunderous crunch and the house shook, but then all returned to normal so she went on about her business. I think it was the neighbor who shortly thereafter pointed out the huey occupying the space where her bathroom had once been...

I believe that Huey never returned to service.

And don't get me started, I have loads of funny Chinook carrying loads stories

Like the time when I was .....;-))
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: KensAuto on January 20, 2019, 10:06:45 AM
Sounds like a fun new thread^^^
Do it !!!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 20, 2019, 12:13:31 PM
Chocolate mountains, Arizona, or maybe a wee bit into California??? 1984 I think. Me in a MH-47D with two Marines flying two CH-53D's are shuttling Marines and artillery up into the range during an exercise. I was carrying troops, the gun and a net full of ammo attached to the bottom of the gun, aka Armee style. Marines had some regulation that prevented them from carrying Marines and the gun or ammo on the same bird...dunno, strange rule if ya ask me.

On the last sortie I took on a stick of maybe 20 Marines and then they directed me over a 10,000 lb concrete block instead of the 105mm gun. So, whatever, I picked it up, the two Marine 53's hooked their concrete blocks and away we went. They were lead and chalk 2, I was trail. Crossing a ridgeline ou ahead I see a smoke trail rising and coming right at us. It was a thing they called a "Smokey SAM" simulating a surface to air missile. Now I will comment that at that time I had never seen either simulated or real missiles, however I can now say I have seen both.

Anyway, you can't stand there and get turned into particles, so in one flash I armed the hook, jettisoned the load, turned hard away and dove down a wadi. The two 53's stayed in formation and were "Shot-down." I survived, but when it was all over, I discovered we were not allowed to jettison these expensive concrete blocks.

I discovered this while standing at attention in front of a Marine Colonel who was yelling at me and slamming things around in his office. He called me a multitude of things, none good, swore against my beloved Army, and swore to have my wings. I think he actually liked we Army folks but on a Marine base that was never to come out. I graduated and continued to see that man as a one then a two star General. He was always surprised when he climbed into my jump seat and I pulled up my visor...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: KensAuto on January 20, 2019, 05:54:19 PM
Pretty good stuff, felt like I was there!

Didn't you knock the top off an antennae during night maneuvers once (or twice lol) ?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: wyorunner on January 20, 2019, 06:40:14 PM
That’s a great story, because of the whole army marine thing is so real for me personally. Been yelled at by both army and marines. Of course never got to have any fun flying like you did though! If You could post a story like this every few days, that’d be great, thanks!! :)
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 20, 2019, 07:10:29 PM
Pretty good stuff, felt like I was there!

Didn't you knock the top off an antennae during night maneuvers once (or twice lol) ?
Once
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 20, 2019, 07:12:43 PM
That’s a great story, because of the whole army marine thing is so real for me personally. Been yelled at by both army and marines. Of course never got to have any fun flying like you did though! If You could post a story like this every few days, that’d be great, thanks!! :)
Every few days, hugh

Got a better idea

I'll start a new thread, call it, "There I was"

Folks will have to post up some of their own good stuff to share, military or otherwise, doesn't matter

I'll get it going in a bit
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: wyorunner on January 20, 2019, 07:29:58 PM
That’s a great story, because of the whole army marine thing is so real for me personally. Been yelled at by both army and marines. Of course never got to have any fun flying like you did though! If You could post a story like this every few days, that’d be great, thanks!! :)
Every few days, hugh

Got a better idea

I'll start a new thread, call it, "There I was"

Folks will have to post up some of their own good stuff to share, military or otherwise, doesn't matter

I'll get it going in a bit

Oh this will be grand!!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: oklawall on January 21, 2019, 10:50:27 AM
There is an airplane on the Air Force base that has been used as Aircraft battle damage repair trainer for about the last 15 years and is no longer safe. They are talking about using a Chinook to come in and lift it to another area of the base so the airplane can be disassembled. I hope they do I would love to watch that
What kind of airplane?
Things with wings do not always play nice with the almost 100mph rotor wash. Oftentimes they start flying with interesting outcomes.

A guy I knew had picked up a damaged huey and was carrying it single point. A huey is a pretty light load, even fully loaded. It requires a drogue chute to be attached to the tailboom so the nose stays pointed straight ahead, and forward speed is limited by the loads stability. As long as it behaves itself, the pilot will increase airspeed slowly until the load starts to occolite. When at that point you'd back off say five to ten knots and bore a long slow hole in the atmosphere onto your destination.

Well this huey was doing pretty well at 100 knots so they bumped it up a bit. The load remained stable but the added pressure broke the drogue chute line and just like that the load started to try and spin. It did some wild gyrations as they tried to slow down but when he saw the huey level with him outside of his window, he cut it loose.

This happened in Germany

Meanwhile below, in the everpresent winter mist and haze lied a quiet little German village. In that village lived the classic "little old lady" who was busy cooking, I believe. Well she heard a thunderous crunch and the house shook, but then all returned to normal so she went on about her business. I think it was the neighbor who shortly thereafter pointed out the huey occupying the space where her bathroom had once been...

I believe that Huey never returned to service.

And don't get me started, I have loads of funny Chinook carrying loads stories

Like the time when I was .....;-))

The aircraft is a WC 135 but all the special gear is removed so it is just a KC 135 with a cool paint job. The plan if the lift it is to remove the horizontal, vertical and the wings from the tip to just outside the landing gear torque box area. From the place it is resting to the ramp area is about half mile by air and 2 miles by road. I will video it if they do the lift
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 21, 2019, 08:30:31 PM
Max lift on a D model Chinook is 26,000 lbs center hook, and I think 28,000 fore and aft hooks combined. So they will have to get what's left down to that or better, and do the lift in the winter with the thick cold air!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on January 22, 2019, 12:17:57 AM
Bet that is sea level too. Ain't gonna be the same in places like Tahoe with 30% less density. (carb tuning days)
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 22, 2019, 09:59:13 AM
Bet that is sea level too. Ain't gonna be the same in places like Tahoe with 30% less density. (carb tuning days)
Very true

Sealevel to normal elevations, the Hook can lift its maximum load.

The actual design specification for the "D" model is to hover out of ground effect (80') at maximum gross weight at 95F!

That's a tall order and took two 4,500 HP motors and some whoppin' big rotors to get there, but it could do it all day, and then some.

But on one mission the regiment was called out to do, landing at a bit above 20,000 feet, it was sketchy if the bird could hover with its crew and four soldiers. I personally doubt it could with the winds blowing around up there.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Atkinsmatt on January 22, 2019, 11:24:05 AM
Getting me remembering air assault school stuff there.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 22, 2019, 01:49:54 PM
Getting me remembering air assault school stuff there.
yep, been there too!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: oklawall on February 16, 2019, 08:06:09 PM
There is an airplane on the Air Force base that has been used as Aircraft battle damage repair trainer for about the last 15 years and is no longer safe. They are talking about using a Chinook to come in and lift it to another area of the base so the airplane can be disassembled. I hope they do I would love to watch that
What kind of airplane?
Things with wings do not always play nice with the almost 100mph rotor wash. Oftentimes they start flying with interesting outcomes.

A guy I knew had picked up a damaged huey and was carrying it single point. A huey is a pretty light load, even fully loaded. It requires a drogue chute to be attached to the tailboom so the nose stays pointed straight ahead, and forward speed is limited by the loads stability. As long as it behaves itself, the pilot will increase airspeed slowly until the load starts to occolite. When at that point you'd back off say five to ten knots and bore a long slow hole in the atmosphere onto your destination.

Well this huey was doing pretty well at 100 knots so they bumped it up a bit. The load remained stable but the added pressure broke the drogue chute line and just like that the load started to try and spin. It did some wild gyrations as they tried to slow down but when he saw the huey level with him outside of his window, he cut it loose.

This happened in Germany

Meanwhile below, in the everpresent winter mist and haze lied a quiet little German village. In that village lived the classic "little old lady" who was busy cooking, I believe. Well she heard a thunderous crunch and the house shook, but then all returned to normal so she went on about her business. I think it was the neighbor who shortly thereafter pointed out the huey occupying the space where her bathroom had once been...

I believe that Huey never returned to service.

And don't get me started, I have loads of funny Chinook carrying loads stories

Like the time when I was .....;-))

The aircraft is a WC 135 but all the special gear is removed so it is just a KC 135 with a cool paint job. The plan if the lift it is to remove the horizontal, vertical and the wings from the tip to just outside the landing gear torque box area. From the place it is resting to the ramp area is about half mile by air and 2 miles by road. I will video it if they do the lift

Looks like they will be cutting the aircraft up in place so no lift for the chinook
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 02, 2019, 08:09:06 PM
https://www.facebook.com/HeliOpsMagazine/videos/325674888062893/
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on March 02, 2019, 09:37:01 PM
Sweet paint job. I see us markings, where is that?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 02, 2019, 10:07:11 PM
Sweet paint job. I see us markings, where is that?
It looks like the ramp outside the Boeing plant in Philly along the river where they are built. I'm betting this was a complete refit, 20-25 mil
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on March 02, 2019, 10:23:49 PM
Isn't that what a new civi one runs anyway?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 03, 2019, 07:44:24 AM
I’m always fascinated by their front and rear rotors not hitting each other


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 03, 2019, 03:20:55 PM
Isn't that what a new civi one runs anyway?
Probably 30-40 depending on options I'd guess. These days the Armee is finally getting new ones. The F's and G's have a lot of composite. These are older 1980's-90's "D" models that are completely reworked, some having parts from the 1960's. Civilians cannot buy CH47D's new, only surplus ones that are reworked. The civvie models, the BV-234 is a buggered up antiquited design derived from a Vietnam era CH-47C
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Nate on March 03, 2019, 05:25:07 PM
Isn't that what a new civi one runs anyway?
Probably 30-40 depending on options I'd guess. These days the Armee is finally getting new ones. The F's and G's have a lot of composite. These are older 1980's-90's "D" models that are completely reworked, some having parts from the 1960's. Civilians cannot buy CH47D's new, only surplus ones that are reworked. The civvie models, the BV-234 is a buggered up antiquited design derived from a Vietnam era CH-47C

I do believe that billings flying services are using D models....

http://billingsflyingservice.com/news/avationpros-billings-flying-service-earns-the-first-faa-type-certificate-for-the-chinook-ch-47d-helicopter/
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: dave945 on March 03, 2019, 07:56:30 PM
Saw this one on the way to Grand Rapids last week. Sorry for the poor pic, but you get the idea. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190304/ee2183c2c0d92963af7347394aea7882.jpg)


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 03, 2019, 08:45:40 PM
Isn't that what a new civi one runs anyway?
Probably 30-40 depending on options I'd guess. These days the Armee is finally getting new ones. The F's and G's have a lot of composite. These are older 1980's-90's "D" models that are completely reworked, some having parts from the 1960's. Civilians cannot buy CH47D's new, only surplus ones that are reworked. The civvie models, the BV-234 is a buggered up antiquited design derived from a Vietnam era CH-47C

I do believe that billings flying services are using D models....

http://billingsflyingservice.com/news/avationpros-billings-flying-service-earns-the-first-faa-type-certificate-for-the-chinook-ch-47d-helicopter/
Correct, they are one of the certificated operators...and Columbia helicopters
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 25, 2019, 10:31:53 AM
Ran across some more cool pics
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 25, 2019, 10:33:16 AM
And these
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on March 25, 2019, 11:04:16 AM
Is that a new type of Osprey behind it in post #317?  :azn:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 25, 2019, 11:22:23 AM
Is that a new type of Osprey behind it in post #317?  :azn:
Behind the safety wire art work?
That is a Chinook my friend!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: dave945 on March 25, 2019, 01:05:41 PM
Is that a new type of Osprey behind it in post #317?  :azn:
Behind the safety wire art work?
That is a Chinook my friend!
I thought he was talking about the wind turbines, kinda look like an ospreys rotors.


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on March 25, 2019, 03:47:19 PM
Is that a new type of Osprey behind it in post #317?  :azn:
Behind the safety wire art work?
That is a Chinook my friend!
I thought he was talking about the wind turbines, kinda look like an ospreys rotors.


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on April 17, 2019, 08:30:40 PM
https://youtu.be/KPo_MvjbFUg
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: cj7ox on April 19, 2019, 07:06:57 AM
Here's one I came across.  :wink:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on April 19, 2019, 10:50:36 AM
Ah, it is so true...At the heart of every person is the love for the Chinook!

You know...Aside from the Iconic Huey, what other helicopter rises to the level of this thing? Loved and used by Armies all over. Been in fights, and rescues, on land, at sea, high in the mountains and deep in deserts. It has carried just about everything man has ever conceived and is still actually growing in significance. It costs more, but does more and so many times is the unsung hero of the operation, still working deep into the night when the "Hero-crews" have retired and gone to bed. It is elegant and powerful and assertively American. Like a Navy Aircraft Carrier when it shows up, everyone knows the power of the US military has arrived. Some hate the thing, some love it, but after having worked it or worked with it, respect it, all. It is made of the same stuff that legends are built from and perhaps when the last Huey is flown to the boneyard in some distant decade, a Chinook will ferry the crew home...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on July 16, 2019, 09:11:49 AM
This is my favorite scripture:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on July 16, 2019, 09:13:07 AM
The Regiment
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on July 16, 2019, 09:15:02 AM
HOOAH!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on July 16, 2019, 09:16:16 AM
...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on July 16, 2019, 10:56:23 AM
Next to the sub, you get a sense for how big that bird really is


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on July 16, 2019, 09:00:41 PM
Next to the sub, you get a sense for how big that bird really is


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There's a whole lot more underwater!
And they do not necessarily stay stationary.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: cj7ox on July 17, 2019, 04:02:06 AM
Great pics, Big D!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: KensAuto on July 17, 2019, 09:58:19 AM
Next to the sub, you get a sense for how big that bird really is


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There's a whole lot more underwater!
And they do not necessarily stay stationary.
The bird, or the sub?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on July 17, 2019, 11:04:47 AM
Next to the sub, you get a sense for how big that bird really is


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There's a whole lot more underwater!
And they do not necessarily stay stationary.
The bird, or the sub?
Navy Captains do not like to sit in one place. The name of the game is to keep moving. That makes flying and landing on naval vessels tricky. Depending on the wind direction you may encounter up to moderate turbulence just downwind of any superstructure.
So imagine hovering sideways (Moving) and having to keep a more or less precision position in potential deadly (cold) waters while bucking and kicking in some nasty wind. That and should you contact the tower you will obviously crash and potentially damage a very important piece of equipment.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: wyorunner on July 17, 2019, 11:57:15 AM
Next to the sub, you get a sense for how big that bird really is


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There's a whole lot more underwater!
And they do not necessarily stay stationary.
The bird, or the sub?
Navy Captains do not like to sit in one place. The name of the game is to keep moving. That makes flying and landing on naval vessels tricky. Depending on the wind direction you may encounter up to moderate turbulence just downwind of any superstructure.
So imagine hovering sideways (Moving) and having to keep a more or less precision position in potential deadly (cold) waters while bucking and kicking in some nasty wind. That and should you contact the tower you will obviously crash and potentially damage a very important piece of equipment.

Sounds exhilarating! Wish I could have got into that line of work.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on September 07, 2019, 09:43:58 AM
Oh, I remember those days

Can't say I ever enjoyed A/R

https://www.facebook.com/helicopter.ua/videos/301228503765885/
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on September 07, 2019, 09:55:35 AM
Fun times...I miss em

https://www.facebook.com/USASOAC/videos/891060144612436/
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on September 07, 2019, 04:08:03 PM
some more
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on September 07, 2019, 04:09:28 PM
and:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on September 22, 2019, 11:03:54 PM
Found some more on the Spec ops aviation site

Observation: I can't believe how big the 160th has grown. When i first joined it, it was actually called Task Force 160. We had two small companies of Hawks, really just standard Armee birds with some nav stuff, one company of hooks. That company, the one I first was inducted into was actually A Company, 159th Aviation Battalion (Of the 101st Airborne Div). TF-160. That meant that the 101st owned the unit but had no operational control over it. At that time the higher headquarters was actually classified. as we were above the Army's 1st SOCOM. We also had a lift company of OH-6C littlebirds, and another company, called "Six-guns" of converted OH-6's into gunbirds.

Then we became the 160th aviation Battalion, but still loosely held under the 101st Airborne, but that didn't last long as we became the 160th Av Bn, 1st SOCOM under the Army's Special Operations Command. That was strange because although 1st SOCOM owned us, they also had no operational control. Something higher up the food chain pulled our strings and poor old Army Special Forces didn't get much more than bread crumbs.

At that point we were starting to get infusions of really big money. Money to buy things like 34 new Chinooks which were modified by civilians into what we needed and then a fresh refit with MD-530's replacing the weaker OH-6's. We formed a Research and development office called SIMO, or Systems Integration Maintenance Office, and we picked up a national guard unit out of Oklahoma, the 245th Aviation.

Then we absorbed all Special FOrces aviation, really just seizing their budgets and taking almost none of their people, and picked up the 617th Aviation, a small hawk unit in Panama. We then were reflagged the 160th SOAG (Special Operations Aviation Group) and now had a one star overseeing stuff while maintaining a full bird as the group commander. Our numbers had been frozen at 1,111 (by Congress) as our budget was growing quite large. We were at a smoking operational pace and that cost a lot in travel and also in broken stuff like piles of broken aircraft. We were pushing the bounds of Army aviation so far out that the regular Army was no longer allowed to inspect or evaluate us. Our pilots were not well liked by the regular army because what they could see of our maneuvers looked like we were cowboying the helos. As an example of that, in 1984 I was sent to train with the USMC to become what amounts to being an air to air instructor pilot. It was interesting for me to become one, as the Army actually did not have such a thing, I was the only guy in the Chinook world. ANyway, I digressed, sorry

The unit blew right through 1,111 like my boys through a bowl of cheese fries and we were again reflagged as the 160th SOAR (Special Operations Aviation Regiment and picked up the USASOC sword patch. We were designated both a special operations and an airborne unit, and we flew and jumped a lot.

With the SOAR the hawks and little birds became first battalion and the chinook company I was in became a battalion of two flight companies and one maintenance company. Not long afterward we stood up an entire new battalion down in Savannah, the 3rd battalion, 160th SOAR. Oddly I actually went to war with them on their first deployment to desert shield/storm and they did very well.

Back a year or so before Panama I got to stand up what was called S&T, for selection and training. We were not much bigger than a platoon, but smaller than a company. We recruited, evaluated/assessed, and trained new officers and enlisted people to join the regiment. THat thing grew into a company and now has grown into a battalion!

The regiment stood up another battalion (Chinooks) in Washington state, 4th Bn. 160th SOAR because OIF and OEF along with all the little wars which that unit still had to prosecute was running the airframes into the dirt. (The road dedication sign of Jody is a guy who died in one of those places that no one realizes that Americans fight)

The Chinook was the workhorse in the Afghanistan theater because of the power of that bird. It is really the only practical bird for conducting assaults at higher altitudes which is like everything but 100 square feet in the stan!

Now they have fixed wing and Reapers and probably a base on the moon!

Anyway, pics come from them, God bless them, most of us never know the missions the have done which killed a cell enroute to somewhere USA with a team to kill school kids. Bad people who work at night!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on September 22, 2019, 11:06:36 PM
^^^ The woman looking up at the sign is Jody's widow, Janet

Can you imagine her life since that day?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: stlaser on September 23, 2019, 12:18:31 AM
So they can haul a chinook in a C5? Wow, amazing
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on September 23, 2019, 03:00:37 AM
So they can haul a chinook in a C5? Wow, amazing

Bet they can haul more than 1. Surprised they had to knock down the first mast, understand the aft.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on September 23, 2019, 08:30:52 AM
So they can haul a chinook in a C5? Wow, amazing

Bet they can haul more than 1. Surprised they had to knock down the first mast, understand the aft.
Correct JR, a C5 holds two broken down hooks. The fwd and aft pylons are removed requiring 24-36 hours afterward to put back together, but units like this one actually keeps a couple broken down 24/7 for worldwide deployment. C5's are also on call and usually no more than 5 hours out from something going down. While the C5 is alerted and enroute the wagon train to the ramp with everything that is prepackaged to load is ongoing. I'd say the aircraft starts to load within 20 min of the C5 coming to a stop. Takes a few hours to load and chain down. I went to Just Cause (Just cuz) riding backwards in a galaxy with two hooks in the belly beneath us.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on September 23, 2019, 08:34:45 AM
So they can haul a chinook in a C5? Wow, amazing
Yea Shawn, sure can

Part of the design criteria of military equipment is based on the opening you see in the C5's "mouth." Everything from tanks to trucks, to bombs to bridge sections and on and on. We plan to move the rapidly deploying armee with those seventy odd galaxys. Now I believe the C5B has a "Space" modification that will allow the forward pylon to remain installed on the Chinook, making it a fav of the regiment.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: wilsonphil on March 06, 2020, 08:26:23 PM
Don I spied these two jems hanging out down in Brownsville, they look to be complete
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 06, 2020, 09:13:12 PM
Those are "F" models, the newest incarnation of the hook. I'm guessing they are either transient or part of a QRF for somebody messing around on the border
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on March 07, 2020, 03:29:41 AM
That rear shot kinda looks like a sea bass.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 07, 2020, 09:13:41 PM
That rear shot kinda looks like a sea bass.
Classic ramp droop!

When they closed it all up, the ramp and tongue were fitting tightly to the fuselage. But after some hours those cylinders will seep fluid and the whole ramp will start to open. Most crew chiefs tie something on the inside to prevent it from just falling open. Its bad to show up to a ramp which has settled to the ground and the locals have had a shopping foray inside your aircraft.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: BobbyB on March 09, 2020, 09:17:07 AM
That rear shot kinda looks like a sea bass.
Classic ramp droop!

Its bad to show up to a ramp which has settled to the ground and the grunts have had a shopping foray inside your aircraft.

Fixed it for more realism.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 09, 2020, 10:21:04 AM
That rear shot kinda looks like a sea bass.
Classic ramp droop!

Its bad to show up to a ramp which has settled to the ground and the grunts have had a shopping foray inside your aircraft.

Fixed it for more realism.
I can't believe you just admitted to that!

I've accused probably hundreds of grunts of "Chinook-hysterical-theft-syndrome"
But out of of all my accusations, chewing the butts off half a thousand of them, standing so many soldiers at attention while I give them a significant hearing loss to at least one ear, after all of that, I have never gotten one to admit to the heinous crime.

You know, even the bible commands you not to steal from Chinooks!

;-)
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Nate on March 09, 2020, 12:42:26 PM
That rear shot kinda looks like a sea bass.
Classic ramp droop!

Its bad to show up to a ramp which has settled to the ground and the grunts have had a shopping foray inside your aircraft.

Fixed it for more realism.
I can't believe you just admitted to that!

I've accused probably hundreds of grunts of "Chinook-hysterical-theft-syndrome"
But out of of all my accusations, chewing the butts off half a thousand of them, standing so many soldiers at attention while I give them a significant hearing loss to at least one ear, after all of that, I have never gotten one to admit to the heinous crime.

You know, even the bible commands you not to steal from Chinooks!

;-)

Hey now.....i am gonna have to give my leg brother some back up here!

Bobby at no point admitted to any such thing!  All he did was seek clarification of the assumption/accusation that you were making towards him and his brethren....

Its not our fault that 15 series folks do not comprehend physical security!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: BobbyB on March 09, 2020, 02:49:48 PM
I'm not saying that I have any knowledge of shiny things disappearing off aircraft. I'm just saying I've heard Pilots, well Aviation in general like to lose things and if it's laying around unsecured it's free.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: EL TATE on March 09, 2020, 04:55:07 PM
I'm not saying that I have any knowledge of shiny things disappearing off aircraft. I'm just saying I've heard Pilots, well Aviation in general like to lose things and if it's laying around unsecured it's free.

"I'd say that's mighty big talk for a one eye'd fat man"
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: BobbyB on March 09, 2020, 05:49:59 PM
"I'd say that's mighty big talk for a one eye'd fat man"

There was a line in the movie Courage under Fire, something along the lines of " the best way to beat pilots at poker, is to distract pilots, to get them talking about their helicopters... pilots LOVE talking about their helicopters."

Just because aviation can't keep track of MREs and shiny things. Don't blame us simple grunts who have to secure your birds.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 09, 2020, 07:51:09 PM
https://youtu.be/9-cPWheNyaA


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on March 09, 2020, 08:00:12 PM
Don, Don???
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 09, 2020, 10:15:34 PM
I'm ignorin' them
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Nate on March 09, 2020, 11:20:05 PM
I'm ignorin' them

 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: BobbyB on March 10, 2020, 05:31:29 AM
I'm ignorin' them

:popcorn:


It's ok, it's well known the Blackhawk is the superior airframe.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 10, 2020, 06:39:33 AM
Shots fired!


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 10, 2020, 11:37:45 AM
I'm gonna show I am the better man here

Although I wanna ring the staff sergeant's neck!

I didn't say that...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on March 10, 2020, 03:49:46 PM
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: BobbyB on March 11, 2020, 08:22:34 AM
I'm gonna show I am the better man here

Although I wanna ring the staff sergeant's neck!

I didn't say that...

You'd have to stand in line. I'm sure other officers, privates and some ex-gf's would agree though.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Nate on March 11, 2020, 12:47:40 PM
HAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: KensAuto on March 11, 2020, 01:30:22 PM
Oh dang. Bobby goin all in.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: EL TATE on March 11, 2020, 03:43:32 PM
Oh dang. Bobby goin all in.

Ate his Wheaties I guess
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: BobbyB on March 11, 2020, 04:19:14 PM
Oh dang. Bobby goin all in.

Ate his Wheaties I guess

Had some coffee, got the brain cells firing again.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 24, 2020, 12:32:04 PM
Less chat, more pics!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 24, 2020, 12:33:59 PM
Some TF160 some chinook, its all good...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 24, 2020, 12:36:18 PM
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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 24, 2020, 12:41:54 PM
Memories
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on June 24, 2020, 01:35:24 PM
 :likebutton:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on July 12, 2020, 09:31:13 AM
No words needed

But

I have a few for our enemies

You try it and this is what waits patiently to steal your life away when you least expect it. Prepare all you want. Build your fortifications. Pray to your God and ask his protection. Train, weapon up, and stand as strong as you can. It won't matter. We will kill you despite anything you can do.

https://www.facebook.com/USASOAC/videos/1229954050687837
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on August 10, 2020, 11:27:02 AM
So what's up with this???
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on August 10, 2020, 11:28:14 AM
Just hangin' around
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on August 10, 2020, 01:48:13 PM
Hmm, sensors of some type?? No refuel prob, huge heat shields on the engines and beat to hell!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: cj7ox on August 10, 2020, 03:11:45 PM
That's the morale bird. Those are speakers for a sound system properly cued to play Flight of the Valkyries. ;-)
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on August 10, 2020, 03:55:29 PM
That's the morale bird. Those are speakers for a sound system properly cued to play Flight of the Valkyries. ;-)

It's something
From my experience whenever someone or an engineer contractor who had the commander's ear wanted to bolt something on the side, they would.

Funny but the performance charts do not take into account all that parasitic drag burnin' extra fuels that cause helikopters to sometimes run ah-might short on fuel. And everyone knows, the mission will always go just as planned, right? I mean if that Captain said his Rangers could clear that building in 10 minutes, why, they never run into a snag and take more time...All while we helikopters are ah-circlin' overhead, 400 miles away from our next sip o-fuel.
Ya, extra drag and oh, how about a ton or two of extra weight and just let us pilots make it all majically work out

Engineers...

Grunts...

Taxes...

Liberals...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: cj7ox on August 10, 2020, 04:30:43 PM
LOL! Come on Chief! Where's all that negativity coming from! I thought you guys all want to be cool? Don't you want the mudsuckers to know how cool you are? Who needs extra fuel, anyway?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: cruizng on August 10, 2020, 06:26:03 PM
My guess is an Active Denial System (ADS)... Fly over the BLM terrorists and shoot a few good rays at them... scatter like ants..

I honestly don't know why don't have thousands of them... roam the streets and if you see three black hoodies gathered together... Zapp... LOL Watch them run like they are on fire.
Title: Chinooks
Post by: Bigdave_185 on August 10, 2020, 08:52:18 PM
Just hangin' around
I’ve had some good naps in a room that looks like this.  Nice a quiet for sure


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on August 11, 2020, 10:45:06 AM
Active denial??

I don't think so, but who knows

The nature of the unit and all that. We be mo bout sneakin' and peakin' here n' there, not so much angerin' the masses. Regular Armee can do that. We after those peeps who grace wanted posters with the big re-ward. :likebutton:

Mudsuckers?? We call em "Earth-Pigs."
No insult intended, just what we call non-aviatin' gravity ruled folkses
 :wink:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on September 28, 2020, 11:50:21 AM
Found some more

Showin' some love for the cousins
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on September 28, 2020, 11:51:40 AM
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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on September 28, 2020, 11:53:20 AM
Those wind turbines are really big!

Second pic of a Chinook looking for a duck to hook up with!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on October 09, 2020, 02:43:49 PM
Service in the 160th is a calling only a few will answer for the mission is constantly demanding and hard. And when the impossible has been accomplished the only reward is another mission that no one else will try.

As a member of the Night Stalkers I am a tested volunteer seeking only to safeguard the honor and prestige of my country, by serving the elite Special Operations Soldiers of the United States. I pledge to maintain my body, mind and equipment in a constant state of readiness for I am a member of the fastest deployable Task Force in the world, ready to move at a moment’s notice anytime, anywhere, arriving time on target plus or minus 30 seconds.
I guard my unit’s mission with secrecy, for my only true ally is the night and the element of surprise. My manner is that of the Special Operations Quiet Professional, secrecy is a way of life. In battle, I eagerly meet the enemy for I volunteered to be up front where the fighting is hard. I fear no foe’s ability, nor underestimate his will to fight.

The mission and my precious cargo are my concern. I will never surrender. I will never leave a fallen comrade to fall into the hands of the enemy, and under no circumstances will I ever embarrass my country.

Gallantly will I show the world and the elite forces I support that a Night Stalker is a specially selected and well trained soldier.

I serve with the memory and pride of those who have gone before me for they loved to fight, fought to win and would rather die than quit.

Night Stalkers Don't Quit!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on October 09, 2020, 02:48:38 PM
I may have posted these earlier...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on October 09, 2020, 03:29:59 PM
Surprised they never incorporated retracts. Might have added 10 knots to the puppy.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on October 09, 2020, 04:29:16 PM
Surprised they never incorporated retracts. Might have added 10 knots to the puppy.
They did
Boeing 347
Had a stretched fuselage, four blades on each head, big wings, and retractable gear.
Experimental
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on October 09, 2020, 04:30:55 PM
Things don't always go right!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on October 09, 2020, 04:31:55 PM
And then there are the rednecks with their bad ideas:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on October 09, 2020, 04:34:00 PM
But in the end, there is beauty!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on October 13, 2020, 01:27:57 PM
Post em as I find em'
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 14, 2020, 08:39:48 AM
Things don't always go right!
Any landing you can walk away from...


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on October 18, 2020, 04:06:27 PM
Ya know, it takes more power just to overcome the parasitic drag created by all that stuff than a Huey engine from the Vietnam era could even produce!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 18, 2020, 10:52:31 PM
I like the brass chute under the gattling gun


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on October 19, 2020, 09:59:00 AM
I like the brass chute under the gattling gun


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That came about during desert storm. We started shooting ammunition called "Slap"
You probably won't find out a whole lot about it
But the plastic sabots pouring out of the gun were collecting on the engine inlets...ya, not so good

So with 4000 rounds per second streaming out, we had to keep the junk out of the horsepower makers which kept the crews and Lycoming happy
Title: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 19, 2020, 12:46:36 PM
I am somewhat familiar with the 30 cal sabot rounds. Good way to get a small hard projectile traveling at really high speed. Alas. Not for civvy use.

And of all the small caliber weapons not available to civilians the gattling has to be my favorite. Feeding it would be a different story. An entire weekend of reloading up in smoke in less than a minute.


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: cj7ox on October 19, 2020, 01:25:49 PM
That came about during desert storm. We started shooting ammunition called "Slap"
You probably won't find out a whole lot about it
But the plastic sabots pouring out of the gun were collecting on the engine inlets...ya, not so good

So with 4000 rounds per second streaming out, we had to keep the junk out of the horsepower makers which kept the crews and Lycoming happy

I don't see how that shoot does anything to help with the SLAP-T sabots, seeing as they come out the end of the barrel before peeling away from the projectile. BTW, SLAP-T .50cal rounds go through a lot of things like a hot knife through butter. ;-)
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on October 19, 2020, 05:53:25 PM
That came about during desert storm. We started shooting ammunition called "Slap"
You probably won't find out a whole lot about it
But the plastic sabots pouring out of the gun were collecting on the engine inlets...ya, not so good

So with 4000 rounds per second streaming out, we had to keep the junk out of the horsepower makers which kept the crews and Lycoming happy

I don't see how that shoot does anything to help with the SLAP-T sabots, seeing as they come out the end of the barrel before peeling away from the projectile. BTW, SLAP-T .50cal rounds go through a lot of things like a hot knife through butter. ;-)
You're right, forgot about that. Well they ended up in those engine screens in clumps. I'm sure a goodly number of them were ingested as well.
So you made me think back some. The casings were running down the side of the aircraft causing some FOD damage, but all those links and brass roller bearings were trippin up a bunch of snake eaters too. I may be junking up the actual story, but I think that is right.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on October 19, 2020, 05:54:49 PM
Oh and I recall the first time we lit up a BMP or maybe it was a PT-76 with a burst, the darned thing caught fire. I was amazed! An anti-tank Chinook...Who knew?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: cj7ox on October 20, 2020, 04:04:02 PM
Yeah. I know the .50 SLAP-T would go through anything short on an MBT.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: dave945 on October 20, 2020, 06:22:08 PM
Thanks for goi g on about the SLAP rounds. It gave me something to watch while I was holding the baby last night on YouTube.


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on October 20, 2020, 09:04:55 PM
There's no doubt at all watching a minigun burst as to whether the ammo is Slap or the regular stuff!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 04, 2021, 11:25:54 AM
Needs no added words
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 14, 2021, 03:20:18 PM
https://www.facebook.com/thehelicopterpage/videos/1043321965690780
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on January 14, 2021, 03:51:32 PM
During dear season a few years back I was having a pizza in Nevada City watching a Skycrane do the same. Talk about a great view!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 26, 2021, 03:08:38 PM
Got some more:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 26, 2021, 03:11:49 PM
and:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 26, 2021, 03:13:46 PM
Magnificent flying machine
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 26, 2021, 03:16:10 PM
And some odd variants
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 26, 2021, 03:17:48 PM
"Sir, Hold your down!"
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 26, 2021, 03:19:55 PM
Several different countries represented here
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 26, 2021, 03:23:14 PM
Have to be Brits...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 26, 2021, 03:25:02 PM
Back to normal, sorta:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on January 26, 2021, 04:48:46 PM
I've seen pics of the winged version. First time I noticed it had 4 blade rotors.

That PBY has probably never gone so fast before. They only cruised at 100mph, couple times I have seen them flyby it looks like it will fall out of the sky.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 26, 2021, 05:08:15 PM
I've seen pics of the winged version. First time I noticed it had 4 blade rotors.

That PBY has probably never gone so fast before. They only cruised at 100mph, couple times I have seen them flyby it looks like it will fall out of the sky.
Not only did it have wings, and 4-bladed rotor systems, but it was stretched and had retractable landing gear too!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on January 26, 2021, 05:44:57 PM
I did notice that, didn't know it was stretched. We learn everyday, even if 95% of the people wouldn't give darn about this stuff!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 29, 2021, 10:43:24 AM
Deserves a hardy place of honor amongst our great war fighting machines.

Men's souls can be found within the metal of these birds

May the sound of Huey blades echo forever into the future!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on January 29, 2021, 12:42:54 PM
Here, Here, that sound is awesome!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: dave945 on January 29, 2021, 12:51:00 PM
I’ve always enjoyed the sound generated by a Huey, the rotor beat always has me looking at the sky.


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 29, 2021, 02:28:08 PM
I’ve always enjoyed the sound generated by a Huey, the rotor beat always has me looking at the sky.


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So that sketch is of a classic "H" model, known as a "UH-1H"
In the Stan, I flew Super Hueys, "UH-1H II"
The standard version has 1300 HP, the Super Huey, 1800
The Super Huey had main rotor blades which were much wider
Because of all that, where a standard Huey cruises at 100-110, the Super Huey could manage speeds all the way up to 130!
The staccato beat from the super Huey at speed was much louder and deeper. I think I got that sound imprinted into my frame, having sat under that rotor system a thousand or so hours.
I noticed that the haji surely took notice when they heard that sound approaching. Sporting twin GAU-17 mini-guns, that sound definitely sparked fear and panic where we flew.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on January 29, 2021, 10:18:07 PM
I was sitting in the house up at the hide last night when a formation of 4 blackhawks flying in the dark at 150ft came right over the house.

Felt it before I heard it. Went out and saw just the red lights going south x south east at about 50 knots

Pretty cool.  Reminder that if they wanted to clear the deck I’d never see it or hear it coming


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on January 29, 2021, 10:22:08 PM
Guess they know where you are, just in case,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 29, 2021, 10:48:51 PM
I was sitting in the house up at the hide last night when a formation of 4 blackhawks flying in the dark at 150ft came right over the house.

Felt it before I heard it. Went out and saw just the red lights going south x south east at about 50 knots

Pretty cool.  Reminder that if they wanted to clear the deck I’d never see it or hear it coming


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Agree, I doubt you would.
They're coming when you're probably asleep. From the first second you hear them until the bullets are flying is less than two minutes. Hardly enough time to get up, get your weapon, get ready and have your wits about you
Title: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on January 29, 2021, 10:53:16 PM
Yeah I was thinking FLIR and a hellfire from a stand-off of a mile away.

Poof. adios.  Clean up on isle 5


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 30, 2021, 02:14:56 PM
Yeah I was thinking FLIR and a hellfire from a stand-off of a mile away.

Poof. adios.  Clean up on isle 5


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They'd shoot from further than a mile, and yes the dust would still be rising when the sonic boom arrived (as in you'd already be in the presence of the Lord asking, "What just happened?")
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: oklawall on January 30, 2021, 04:58:43 PM
My first ride in a chopper was a Huey at Air Force survival school. Was hosted up dragged into the Huey. They point where I needed to plant myself and what to hold onto. I got to witness firsthand some very impressive flying at low altitude and very near to some tree with very little traction between my backside and the cabin floor.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on January 30, 2021, 07:10:34 PM
They came back last night...

Now I’m getting paranoid....lets see if they come back tonight.

Probably wouldn’t take kindly to being lased but the thought crossed my mind...

I just need a big sheet of glass....


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on January 30, 2021, 09:06:59 PM
Long as there not stopping. Maybe they know its "safe airspace"
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on January 30, 2021, 09:07:52 PM
My guess is that since Im in the national forest that they practice NVG maneuvers here because there are no lights in the forest.


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 30, 2021, 09:15:34 PM
My guess is that since Im in the national forest that they practice NVG maneuvers here because there are no lights in the forest.


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What is the illumination after EENT there tonight?
You can test your theory to see if the flying tapers off below 23% illum. Wouldn't affect the more sporty units, but nasty guard and "regular" armee would access low illum as a high risk flight which would require a Colonel or higher to authorize (Something he/she would likely never do)
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on January 30, 2021, 09:29:44 PM
Hadn’t thought about that, but full moon, or close. With moon rise being about 8.  So the 10-10:30 flight times would be when the moon is getting pretty far up to illuminate the intensifier tubes.  Makes sense.


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 30, 2021, 09:56:27 PM
Hadn’t thought about that, but full moon, or close. With moon rise being about 8.  So the 10-10:30 flight times would be when the moon is getting pretty far up to illuminate the intensifier tubes.  Makes sense.


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We "real" pilots call that "Field-grade" night. It's actually so light outside that you almost don't need goggles. The guys who fly the least, majors/colonels who are "field-grade" officers will be out with an experienced instructor pilot to get the necessary hours of NVG that they need to maintain currency. Real NVG pilots hardly ever fly during high illum because war fighting is best done on the darkest of nights and flying during high illum exposes you to a bunch of rookie pilots who don't know what they are doing
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 31, 2021, 01:23:51 PM
https://www.facebook.com/1308919847/videos/g.120116615548/10225637698871805
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on January 31, 2021, 01:26:26 PM
Link is locked.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 31, 2021, 01:29:12 PM
https://www.facebook.com/1308919847/videos/g.120116615548/10225637698511796
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on January 31, 2021, 01:30:25 PM
Same, says it is only for "invited" guests.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 31, 2021, 01:38:25 PM
Same, says it is only for "invited" guests.
Shucks!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 31, 2021, 01:39:57 PM
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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 31, 2021, 01:41:23 PM
...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 31, 2021, 01:43:11 PM
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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on January 31, 2021, 02:18:35 PM
Bernie is everywhere!!!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: KensAuto on January 31, 2021, 02:27:49 PM
Awesome pics boss!

I wonder what it would be like to hook up the slings under that Goliath for the first time. Oof
...Nate, you did that right? If so, try to describe it for us civies.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on January 31, 2021, 03:08:28 PM
What’s that robe you are wearing in that pic, Don?


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on January 31, 2021, 03:24:02 PM
It does kinda look like one of Don's rare pics. Man gloves too,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 31, 2021, 03:55:51 PM
What’s that robe you are wearing in that pic, Don?


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My snoopy sleepy time robe
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 31, 2021, 04:00:11 PM
Awesome pics boss!

I wonder what it would be like to hook up the slings under that Goliath for the first time. Oof
...Nate, you did that right? If so, try to describe it for us civies.
Its real noisy
Very windy while it is hovering forward over you and the load
Touch the hook before you ground the aircraft and the static charge will probably knock you unconscious
Then when the aircraft is ascending to pull the slings tight it gets really windy
When the load comes off the ground and you're within 100-200 feet you are:
1. Inside a tornado
2. Probably flying as well
No one can stand in that downwash with a max gross weight load at an 80 foot hover.
Although I've seen many a fool try...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Atkinsmatt on January 31, 2021, 06:47:07 PM
Don't forget about the fall when you either get blown off the load or shocked off.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: wyorunner on February 01, 2021, 02:11:13 AM
Awesome pics boss!

I wonder what it would be like to hook up the slings under that Goliath for the first time. Oof
...Nate, you did that right? If so, try to describe it for us civies.
Its real noisy
Very windy while it is hovering forward over you and the load
Touch the hook before you ground the aircraft and the static charge will probably knock you unconscious
Then when the aircraft is ascending to pull the slings tight it gets really windy
When the load comes off the ground and you're within 100-200 feet you are:
1. Inside a tornado
2. Probably flying as well
No one can stand in that downwash with a max gross weight load at an 80 foot hover.
Although I've seen many a fool try...
Chief, what do they use to ground it before hooking it?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on February 01, 2021, 07:56:55 AM
I think they use an E1


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Atkinsmatt on February 01, 2021, 08:18:35 AM
Either a home made ground probe or now days they have insulated reach pendants.  We used to make them from a tent stake, commo wire and a stick with a bent antennae section as the hook with the whole thing taped together.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Nate on February 01, 2021, 09:23:33 AM
Awesome pics boss!

I wonder what it would be like to hook up the slings under that Goliath for the first time. Oof
...Nate, you did that right? If so, try to describe it for us civies.

its a bit nerve racking. 

1. you have this massive machine which according to physics should not even be able to fly let alone hover moving back and forth/up and down over your head,

2. you have some fool hanging out the hell hole staring at you,

3. you wonder if the mr. top gun wanna be fool operating the stick is going to sneeze and squash you like a bug,

4. 9 times out of 10 your standing directly ontop of whatever it is that you are trying to sling load waving what can only be compared size wise to the eye end of a needle (we call it a Q-tip) while trying to get the opening slammed into the hook opening and past the safety clasp (hoping mr top gun wanna be has it deactivated),

5. praying that which ever one of your moron friends/co-workers made the grounding rod correctly and that you dont litterally and i mean litteraly get blown off what ever it is that you are standing on by the massive shock of static electricty (i have seen it happen to many times),

6. having to stand there while T.G.Fool starts to gain altitude to ensure that your sling ropes dont get tangled up on anything.....doing all of that while as don puts it, standing in the middle of a tornado!

did i forget to mention if its a connex, then you have to get off of it lickity split with out doing the P.L.F. or your going for a ride?

heres a pretty good video of sling load operations:  https://youtu.be/PtXun3t8eT0

I think they use an E1
they are normally not even involved at that point as they become/are too much of a liability and a mission failure factor that can only be mitigated by them not being involved.





Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 01, 2021, 03:09:59 PM
Don't forget about the fall when you either get blown off the load or shocked off.
I hate that

One night over at Ft. Smith some kid was hooking up a double HMMV load beneath my aircraft. The crewchief was looking through the center hole where the big hook is and he watched this kid who was standing on the wet roof of a HMMV reach up to grab the aft hook. The chief said it looked like he recoiled so hard that he fell off the truck and broke his arm...as in compound fracture. Lots of blood.
Well, me being in total mission mode and the flight lead. I told the people there to clear him out of the way and get another soldier on top of the load and get me hooked up because I was burning gas.
Now, in my defense I will say, this was a big mission. I was doing a proof of concept. I preached that the Chinook could carry a bigger load, further and return than anything and we were carrying a full load, 115 nautical miles, then returning on fumes to make another turn. I was the guy leading the whole thing, and frankly, in combat if someone gets hurt, you don't stop, you keep doing your job.
Thing is, this was not combat and my actions shed a dim light on me and my Chinook crews.
I regret that decision, and I definitely felt/feel bad for the kid who broke his arm. But I have always played hard and for keeps, and at that time, I think I was the only combat veteran in the flight or on the ground, so people were not used to operating like that. The Night Stalkers taught me a lot and hardened me up a bit too much for the regular Armee, I think.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 01, 2021, 03:14:55 PM
Awesome pics boss!

I wonder what it would be like to hook up the slings under that Goliath for the first time. Oof
...Nate, you did that right? If so, try to describe it for us civies.
Its real noisy
Very windy while it is hovering forward over you and the load
Touch the hook before you ground the aircraft and the static charge will probably knock you unconscious
Then when the aircraft is ascending to pull the slings tight it gets really windy
When the load comes off the ground and you're within 100-200 feet you are:
1. Inside a tornado
2. Probably flying as well
No one can stand in that downwash with a max gross weight load at an 80 foot hover.
Although I've seen many a fool try...
Chief, what do they use to ground it before hooking it?
The hook up guys have some cable hooked to their load or to a copper rod smacked into the ground with a steel probe. You touch that to the aircraft and you're good for a couple minutes.

When I would aerial refuel, we could bet this big blue spark, like miniature lightening to jump from the tip of the probe to the drogue at the end of the refueling hose. Made a snapping sound too.

Crazee times...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 01, 2021, 06:16:51 PM
Lets get the pics going again...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 01, 2021, 06:18:30 PM
...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 01, 2021, 06:21:21 PM
Small pics, sorree!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 01, 2021, 06:24:00 PM
Keep going...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: KensAuto on February 01, 2021, 06:44:19 PM
Thanks Nate (and Matt). Perfectly put in to words.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 02, 2021, 11:13:02 AM
More of these magnificent flying machines and the soldiers who work around them
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 02, 2021, 11:14:29 AM
Gobbling up soldiers...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 02, 2021, 11:16:50 AM
Aerial refuelling pic posted before...I reposted it just to remind me how much I didn't like doing that
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 02, 2021, 11:19:36 AM
A little NVG helo-casting...The term we use when kicking out perfectly dry SF bubbas into ponds/lakes/rivers/seas/oceans
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 02, 2021, 11:23:25 AM
I'm liking the paint on those new "F" models
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 02, 2021, 11:26:44 AM
So, the first unit I ever flew hooks in was A co/159th, Task Force 160 and our unit call sign was Pachyderms, a name given the unit when it flew in Vietnam. Am I looking at some pachyderm tribute bird here???
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 02, 2021, 11:30:36 AM
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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 02, 2021, 11:32:14 AM
Soldiers
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 02, 2021, 11:34:38 AM
Alaska mixed in here
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 02, 2021, 11:36:28 AM
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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 02, 2021, 11:38:27 AM
Salute at 10,000 AGL
Flag pics are always great
Singapore Air Force hook
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: cj7ox on February 02, 2021, 01:39:26 PM
Great pics, D! I see a lot of 36th ID (TXARNG) pics in the tiny ones!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on February 02, 2021, 01:59:13 PM
Nice little show again. How many soldiers would you normally carry? (not the wiki #)
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 02, 2021, 03:22:52 PM
Nice little show again. How many soldiers would you normally carry? (not the wiki #)
So we have seats for 33 with seat belts
So on a typical mission of low to medium risk, we would be restricted to those 33
However on high risk missions such as an emergency extraction the rules may get thrown out the window, then its a free for all
Special operations aircraft may theoretically have their own rules.
I have heard rumors of the crew chief packing 60 or more rangers in the back of my aircraft. I have heard rumors of the crewchief loading two jeep looking things and 40 rangers in the back of my bird. I also heard rumors of something approaching 100 peoples, all little munchkins mind you, flying off some place that was sinking or burning down, or about to get all blowed up, riding like cord wood in some night stalker aircraft. That of course is just conjecture, rumor, here-say, and unconfirmed bar-room drunk talk.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 02, 2021, 03:25:05 PM
Hoo-ah!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on February 02, 2021, 03:25:16 PM
"Heard Rumors Of"  :likebutton:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 02, 2021, 03:26:57 PM
Great pics, D! I see a lot of 36th ID (TXARNG) pics in the tiny ones!
Excellent!
Gotta love soldiers from states that start with "T"

I love me some Ar-Mee!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 02, 2021, 03:27:44 PM
"Heard Rumors Of"  :likebutton:
Yea, ya can't verify what may or may not have happened...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 02, 2021, 03:29:13 PM
That gray colored one is the first of many Chinooks delivered to the Indian Air Force
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 02, 2021, 03:32:24 PM
That boy in the bird with the "Big Red One" on the pylon is bankin' a bit close to the ground...I would never (cough-cough) be caught dead doin' something exactly like that ;-))
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 02, 2021, 03:34:50 PM
Looks like some paratroopers doing a "hop and pop"
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 02, 2021, 03:39:00 PM
The Nav-ee's worse nightmare

Armee whirly-birds on their decks

Notice the Hookers painted a big "ARMY" on the nose?

Now why do you think they did that (He-He)
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 02, 2021, 03:42:03 PM
It is said by many a wise man

That old Chinook pilots never die

They just fly off into a sunset...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 09, 2021, 12:51:24 PM
I post em when I find em
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on February 09, 2021, 04:30:36 PM
Question, I see diff screen on the intakes in many of the pics. Are these engine specific, model specific or deployment specific?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 09, 2021, 05:06:08 PM
Generational, actually, JR

A models from the 60's had no inlet screens at all

B model had small engines with inlet screens that looked like a pointed front end

C ,D and E models forward had screens that were much larger kind of like a pointed mushroom

F and G models started using a variety of intakes. The barrel thing with all the little holes is a particle separator that pulls air in through the tube which has vanes which spins the air causing dust and dirt to be centrifuged into a collection chamber where it is pumped overboard via that aft facing tube.

Some birds actually had huge K&N filters which were a huge disaster as they filled up very quickly.



Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on February 09, 2021, 05:21:12 PM
Makes sense. Think the tractor style would work well with implements using them.

Funny ones are on the 53s that have 3 engines, looks weird with the offset intakes. When those flew into MCAS-H Santa Ana they almost pointed the nose straight up bleeding off that airspeed.

On a cool note, strangest plane I saw was a TU-95 coming into El Toro, being escorted by 2 F-4s. Mid 70s.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 09, 2021, 05:53:48 PM
Makes sense. Think the tractor style would work well with implements using them.

Funny ones are on the 53s that have 3 engines, looks weird with the offset intakes. When those flew into MCAS-H Santa Ana they almost pointed the nose straight up bleeding off that airspeed.

On a cool note, strangest plane I saw was a TU-95 coming into El Toro, being escorted by 2 F-4s. Mid 70s.
WHAT???

Soviet nuke bomber landing at a Marine base at the height of the cold war!!

Defecting?? Stolen??  Lost, made a wrong turn at the bearing sea?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on February 09, 2021, 08:56:18 PM
What’s the hook spraying in front of the osprey (pic taken from the trainer jet)?


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 09, 2021, 10:03:54 PM
What’s the hook spraying in front of the osprey (pic taken from the trainer jet)?


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Water

Icing test. V22 flies into the vapor cloud and starts to build ice. The effects are measured. Some military aircraft do not have de-icing, only anti-ice. Those aircraft will not be allowed to fly in weather conditions with anything more than trace to light icing.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on February 09, 2021, 10:06:18 PM
Makes perfect sense


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on February 09, 2021, 11:37:39 PM
Makes sense. Think the tractor style would work well with implements using them.

Funny ones are on the 53s that have 3 engines, looks weird with the offset intakes. When those flew into MCAS-H Santa Ana they almost pointed the nose straight up bleeding off that airspeed.

On a cool note, strangest plane I saw was a TU-95 coming into El Toro, being escorted by 2 F-4s. Mid 70s.
WHAT???

Soviet nuke bomber landing at a Marine base at the height of the cold war!!

Defecting?? Stolen??  Lost, made a wrong turn at the bearing sea?

Yep, it was the sound that got me looking. Never heard anything like it before. Who knows why, but figure we had enough bases and aircraft around that area to handle anything. Did you know there was a rocket factory in the hills behind El Toro? Used to hike up there and you could watch them test the engnes.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Farmer Jon on February 10, 2021, 06:55:08 AM
What’s the hook spraying in front of the osprey (pic taken from the trainer jet)?


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My brother in law would tell you they are spraying chemicals to seed the clouds. Weather experiments.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 10, 2021, 11:15:59 AM
What’s the hook spraying in front of the osprey (pic taken from the trainer jet)?


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My brother in law would tell you they are spraying chemicals to seed the clouds. Weather experiments.
He'd be correct in saying they were weather experiments
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Farmer Jon on February 10, 2021, 01:14:21 PM
What’s the hook spraying in front of the osprey (pic taken from the trainer jet)?


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My brother in law would tell you they are spraying chemicals to seed the clouds. Weather experiments.
He'd be correct in saying they were weather experiments
He's one of them that thinks contrails make it rain.

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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on February 10, 2021, 01:59:38 PM
OK, no more late night radio for you guys.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 04, 2021, 10:14:20 AM
Couple of new ones posted over on the Night Stalker site
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 10, 2021, 01:41:00 PM
That sound...

Settled into my very soul

Like the Huey from another war, this one is ours

Unique, powerful, awe inspiring

Feared by our enemies

Because hearing it for them and the men who will come with that sound

May well signal the end of their lives

That sound...


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on March 10, 2021, 01:50:27 PM
Link says "private use only", guess I'm not your bud on FB. Lots of Dons there.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 10, 2021, 06:53:21 PM
Link says "private use only", guess I'm not your bud on FB. Lots of Dons there.
Crap...Saw it on my NightStalker members only site this morning and thought it was worth sharing.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 11, 2021, 07:37:23 AM
Saw this banking over the freeway yesterday.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210311/3d74433b42dc81f5ad4ddb9db831f106.jpg)


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 12, 2021, 09:18:00 AM
Notice the probe? One of ma boyz!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 12, 2021, 08:13:03 PM
I did. Think they were flying out of Ellington?


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 15, 2021, 05:40:51 PM
I did. Think they were flying out of Ellington?


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No tellin' what they were up to. Most likely practicing a secret invasion of Texas to take it back from its millions of new residents...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 15, 2021, 07:45:49 PM
Well they brought backup this time

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210315/9e87cba80e70657c67dc9e878ee9525b.jpg)
About 150 off the deck cruising along the shoreline at the beach in Galveston.

My Russian friends dad, a Russian Cold War bomber pilot, was grinning ear to ear.


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: KensAuto on March 15, 2021, 10:26:41 PM
I do believe this could have happened in the timeframe of the boss's enlistment, and carried out by the 160th.
Were you part of this Don? ... since it's no longer classified and all.

https://youtu.be/EKFL6DdWwiM
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 15, 2021, 10:28:42 PM
Well they brought backup this time

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About 150 off the deck cruising along the shoreline at the beach in Galveston.

My Russian friends dad, a Russian Cold War bomber pilot, was grinning ear to ear.


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We don't use those things, too slow, not a SOAR asset. Aviators flying them not of the right mindset. Our DAP's have twice the firepower of those rattle traps.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 15, 2021, 10:30:57 PM
I do believe this could have happened in the timeframe of the boss's enlistment, and carried out by the 160th.
Were you part of this Don? ... since it's no longer classified and all.

https://youtu.be/EKFL6DdWwiM
I will say I was in the unit flying Chinooks at the time of Mt Hope III
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: KensAuto on March 15, 2021, 11:25:55 PM
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 16, 2021, 09:07:51 AM
Had to make them feel much better knowing the French had their six....


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 16, 2021, 12:13:12 PM
Had to make them feel much better knowing the French had their six....


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The french military is one thing, but the "Cappe-Blanc" is another. I have been right beside the french foreign legion, and those folks can stir up a rukus to be sure. Can't say I like them much, but they can fight.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 23, 2021, 10:54:04 AM
Love that first shot
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Post by: Flyin6 on March 23, 2021, 10:55:23 AM
...But I think this pic captures the spirit of the thing. A spirit that each of those aircraft actually has because of the souls of the men who flew and were carried by it.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on March 23, 2021, 02:24:02 PM
 :likebutton: :likebutton:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 23, 2021, 10:10:03 PM
That is a massive flag


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Nate on March 23, 2021, 10:35:12 PM
That is a massive flag


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Thats a garison flag......i have done many a flag detail with that big girl!!!!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 24, 2021, 07:12:40 AM
How big is it and what do you do with it on detail? Proper fold and store?


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Title: Chinooks
Post by: Nate on March 24, 2021, 08:28:08 AM
here are the names sizes of the different flags that the US Army flies:

2–3. Sizes and occasions for display
a. National flags listed below are for outdoor display.
(1) Garrison flag—20-foot hoist by 38-foot fly, of approved material. (The post flag may be flown in lieu of the garrison
flag.) The garrison flag may be flown on the following holidays and special occasions:
(a) New Year's Day, 1 January.
(b) Inauguration Day, 20 January every fourth year.
(c) Martin Luther King, Jr's Birthday, third Monday in January.
(d) President's Day, third Monday in February.
(e) Easter Sunday (variable).
(f) Loyalty Day and Law Day, USA, 1 May.
(g) Mother's Day, second Sunday in May.
(h) Armed Forces Day, third Saturday in May.
(i) National Maritime Day, 22 May.
(j) Memorial Day, last Monday in May.
(k) Flag Day, 14 June.
(l) Father's Day, third Sunday in June.
(m) Independence Day, 4 July.
(n) National Korean War Veterans Armistice Day, 27 July.
(o) National Aviation Day, 19 August.
(p) Labor Day, first Monday in September.
(q) Constitution Day and Citizenship Day, 17 September.
(r) Gold Star Mother's Day, last Sunday in September.
(s) Columbus Day, second Monday in October.
(t) Veterans Day, 11 November.
(u) Thanksgiving Day, fourth Thursday in November.
(v) Christmas Day, 25 December.
(w) Important occasions as designated by Presidential Proclamation or HQDA.
(x) Celebration of a regional nature when directed by the installation commander.
(2) Post flag—8-foot 11 3/8-inch hoist by 17-foot fly, of approved material. The post flag is flown daily except when
the garrison and storm flags are flown. When a garrison flag is not available, the post flag will be flown on holidays and
important occasions.
(3) Field flag—6-foot 8-inch hoist by 12-foot fly, of approved material. The field flag may be displayed from a flag
pole only when distinguished visitors are present and only with the positional field flag.
(4) Storm flag—5-foot hoist by 9-foot 6-inch fly, of approved material. The storm flag is flown in inclement weather.
(5) Internment flag—5-foot hoist by 9-foot 6-inch fly, of approved material. The internment flag is authorized for deceased military personnel and for deceased veterans. Upon application to the nearest postmaster, the Veterans Administration will provide flags for deceased veterans.
(6) Boat flag—3-foot hoist by 4-foot fly, of approved material. The U.S. boat flag is displayed only with positional boat
flag colors and general officers flags.
(7) Ensign—2-foot 4 7/16-inch hoist by 4-foot 6-inch fly, of approved material. The ensign will be displayed on vessels
when required to indicate nationality.
(8) Union jack—The union jack consists of a blue base with white stars similar in all respects to the union of the flag
of the United States. The union jack is flown on ships at anchor or tied up at pier. When flown with the flag of the United
States, the union jack will be the same size as the union of the national color being flown.
(9) Grave decoration flag—7-inch hoist by 11-inch fly, of cotton muslin.
(10) Automobile flags—
(a) 12-inch hoist by 18-inch fly, of approved material, trimmed on three sides with fringe 1 1/2 inches wide. This flag
is to be displayed with the individual automobile flag of the President and Vice President of the United States.
(b) 18-inch hoist by 26-inch fly, of approved material trimmed on three sides with fringes 1 1/2 inches wide. This flag
is to be displayed on automobiles of individuals listed in table 3–1.

Flag details uncase, unfold and raise the flag as well as lower the flag, properly fold it and properly store it every day. 

4 U.S.C. 7, title 4, chapter 1 covers this material and AR840-10 is the US Army regulation that covers the flag.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 24, 2021, 02:08:01 PM
That is a massive flag


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Thats a garison flag......i have done many a flag detail with that big girl!!!!
Correct!

Three most common sizes of the official US Flag

Smallest (normal size) is the storm flag

Next is the "Post" flag, which is larger and will be seen on larger flagpoles near the headquarters of military installations.

The largest is the Garrison flag which is adorning the interior of the hangar and is used on special occasions and some national holidays on masts which can handle that behemoth!

Oh, and Nate, you'll appreciate this, when I was a young and strapping Sergeant, I was once the NCOIC of the post flag detail for Illeshiem, Germany. I had just gotten in trouble, for allegedly "Borrowing" an M-88. The dope smokin' crew claimed I came and took the thing while they were at lunch and used it to pull the engine out of my M-60A1. That part is probably true. The messy part was that I just sort of went through their hatch lock, apparently ruining the lock, then there was something about driving with out a dispatch, or a ground guide, and something about me hitting something and breaking something else, well you know how these things can just take on a life of their own...
Well, some over zealous decided to try to give me an article-15.
When they read it to me, I asked for a courts-martial instead. That got me relieved from being a section sergeant and the sergeant major who knew me and also knew I was one of the few NCO's around that did not smoke dope, decided to assign me to temporary duty as NCOIC of the flag detail.
It was friggin great. Took most of the summer to figure out everything while I spent lazy days laying around the pool and chasing after female MP's.
As all things generally turn out OK, all charges were dropped, and I was sent back to my tank platoon just in time for gunnery! Ya, that was (mostly) a good memory.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on April 17, 2021, 09:38:09 AM
Cool
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on April 17, 2021, 01:06:38 PM
Is that first pic how they sneak up on you?
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Post by: Flyin6 on April 17, 2021, 10:58:02 PM
Is that first pic how they sneak up on you?
Well, not all that stealthy, but if you're in a zodiac rubber boat and you need to catch a lift out of a bad place, why, I'd just motor that sucker right inside that big ole cozy Boeing flying boat!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on April 17, 2021, 10:58:41 PM
I never knew...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on May 16, 2021, 10:48:53 AM
some nice pics
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: KensAuto on May 16, 2021, 02:26:30 PM
Normally love the sound of twin rotors, especially now, knowing that the boss used to drive them around the world....but

These guys flew directly over my house twice before I could get out of bed and give them the single finger salute.

They were 500 yards out in this pic and I could barely hear it.
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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on May 16, 2021, 02:37:05 PM
3rd ^ picture looks like you landed at my property.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on May 16, 2021, 11:18:22 PM
3rd ^ picture looks like you landed at my property.
It does!
That's the famous "Roberts Ridge" bird/fight that took place early in the Afghan war. Probably up around 10,000AMSL
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Nate on October 16, 2021, 11:47:13 AM
just for Don

https://youtu.be/EIRuqEbGjUY
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on October 16, 2021, 01:15:53 PM
Well, his facts are a bit off...

2200 HP each? Hardly! Normal power: 3750SHP each. Emergency power around 5,200SHP EACH!

45 grunts in the back...Well, seats for 33? No seats installed/open floor, 45 is a good number. I hauled 60 rangers many times. Record is like 109 small people.

But ya, if you're a bad guy and you hear this coming, run! If it's night time and you're an important bad guy, just commit suicide and save yourself a lot of grief
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Nate on October 16, 2021, 09:21:52 PM
You should watch some of his other videos, they are a little brash, but they are funny.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on October 20, 2021, 10:29:42 PM
Caught a couple more from the Night Stalker site (Closed to the public)
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 14, 2021, 05:00:21 PM
Beauties!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Nate on November 26, 2021, 03:38:46 PM
https://youtu.be/g90QUoORmc0
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 06, 2021, 10:28:25 AM
Brits having fun at some airshow

https://youtu.be/FTz5uMBDcE4
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on December 06, 2021, 01:21:39 PM
Memories?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 06, 2021, 02:17:04 PM
Memories?
I flew with the brits and the aussies many times. They were pretty good but some of us in the 160th were better. We didn't do aerobatics at the time and the only Air-air trained instructor pilot in the hook community was yours truly. Thus the invites to fly with them. I confess, I could well understand them, but we managed.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 06, 2021, 02:19:25 PM
Some of our European brothers
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 06, 2021, 02:20:44 PM
Nice shots
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 19, 2022, 10:37:49 AM
Two "F" models flew over my home yesterday. Made me think about flying them again...I do miss gracing the skies in that magnificent aircraft...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: wyorunner on January 19, 2022, 06:35:14 PM
How does one identify which model they are?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 19, 2022, 09:06:33 PM
How does one identify which model they are?
Lots of little things
The biggest tip off to the F-model is the new desert paint, not the dark green of the "D" models.
"E" models were fat tank birds with probes, but a great number of them were destroyed during the wars, so the newest model, the "G" is a special operations only variant. Pointy nose, AR probe, fat tanks, Terrain following radar on left side and Flir pod underneath, Has a lot of other stuff that is sort of classified, so I'll not mention that. 160th birds have mini guns and a .50 M2 as well plus a tail mount M240 just for added flavor, but that is seldom installed simply because of the large variety of things going on and off that ramp. Oh and the G's and the F's have the IR diffuser exhaust can looking things.

Oh and there are still some ancient "C" model hooks flying... wait for it...In the Iranian Armee!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 05, 2022, 12:31:03 PM
Found some more poking around on the UH-1 Huey veteran FB pages
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 20, 2022, 04:09:55 PM
Navee doesn't like this!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on February 20, 2022, 04:14:13 PM
 :cool: :likebutton:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 20, 2022, 04:21:41 PM
:cool: :likebutton:
You would! :likebutton: :likebutton: :likebutton: :likebutton: :likebutton: :likebutton:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on February 20, 2022, 04:28:52 PM
The 60, 47 and 25 are sweet too. Got a thing for WWII birds.

I have an 8ft span B25 upstairs. Full retracts, flaps and CTR props to boot/electric. If I had some time!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 21, 2022, 10:48:39 AM
The 60, 47 and 25 are sweet too. Got a thing for WWII birds.

I have an 8ft span B25 upstairs. Full retracts, flaps and CTR props to boot/electric. If I had some time!
Which you don't!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on February 28, 2022, 10:14:44 PM
Creating a Chinook diorama

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=302294708471144
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 02, 2022, 11:12:33 PM
https://www.fox13now.com/news/local-news/recovery-operation-to-remove-utah-national-guard-helicopters-from-mountain-underway

The videos of the blackhawks crashing at snowbird can be found on YouTube

Interesting to get your thoughts Don on the why and what went wrong


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 03, 2022, 09:51:13 PM
First. I do not know the specifics of the accidents.
Next I would ask at what altitude did the crashes occur?
Was there snow on the ground...blowing snow as in creating a "white-out" condition.
Any of that could lead to different sorts of crashes
Now, I just happen to be a high altitude mountain flying rotary-wing instructor pilot,
so I have a direction I would go if I didn't know the circumstances of the crash. I would go to a loss of tail rotor effectiveness due to higher density altitude. In Afghanistan Blackhawks did not do well at high altitudes. It takes a lot of horsepower to drive those tail rotors which counter the torque that drives the main rotor. If the tail rotor was not there the fuselage would want to rotate opposite the rotation of the rotor. Now as you get higher and higher, two things start happening. First, the engines produce less power. Next, the rotor blades and tail rotor blades become less effective. So let's say you set up for an approach to a pad at high altitude. The aircraft is likely operating at the very top end of its available power. You are fighting winds and turbulence and say, on short final you get a good buffet or the wind reverses. Just like that you need to pull more power...power that is not there and the Rotor RPM droops. the resulting loss of lift pancakes you faster than you can say Biden's a loser.
Next thing that happens is some Chinook comes along to lift the busted bird off the mountain side.
A Chinook, in contrast to a black hawk has a huge abundance of power. It can hover at maximum gross weight out of ground effect at 10,000 feet at 95F!!! I don't think any other helo on the planet has that much power. It is a beast and no tail rotor to counter torque because both rotors turn in opposite directions cancelling out torque effect.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 04, 2022, 07:48:30 AM
I guess I had never thought of the torque and didn’t of course know the chinooks rotated in different directions
 Interesting

I’ll send ya some video of it crashing if I can find them


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 04, 2022, 07:49:08 AM
https://youtu.be/mQg9Ev9SEFA


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 04, 2022, 09:24:13 AM
That's pretty obvious...

Whiteout conditions where the sky and ground all look exactly the same so the pilot cannot tell where the ground actually is.

Chalk 2 landed into the building snow cloud from lead (Big No-no) and instead of going around/aborting the landing continued to press it. He got all discombobulated (Aviation term for this ;-) and either landed hard or contacted the ground with the main rotors which is also a no-no.

Lead had his own problem as he also pressed the landing and you san see that he was chasing the snow cloud. Notice that he makes his approach to the middle of that open area but ends up crashed after striking the trees to his left. My theory: The pilot flying is not that experienced. He gets into this white bubble and as the snow cloud accelerates away from him, he chases after it trying to make something stay still long enough to land. He created his own visual illusion.

Commentary: I think there are several things going on here. It seems these guys are either young and inexperienced or they are like national guard guys who fly jets during the week, then get a weekend a month in the Blackhawk because nothing I see here tells me they are experienced. Had I been flight lead, I would have picked a suitable landing site not too far from the trees so I had some sort of visual reference. I would have instructed chalk two to orbit until I radioed that I was safely down. Now if the snow cloud built like I saw in the pic, chances are good that I would have climbed straight out and circled around to do it all again. I'd give it two good trys and if I couldn't get in, then I simply would not land there.

Assuming I did get down, I'd have to think about the recent snow landing experience of the pilots in chalk-2. If I thought they were strong I'd have them attempt to come in. Same same, give them two chances, then wave them off too.

Now I have to wonder why they were landing to a ski resort slope in the first place? A real mission or just showing off for their girls, families or just plain showing off? Show-boating has caused the majority of peacetime accidents. Don't believe me, goggle air show accidents and you'll read about some doozies.

In any event, never good to lose and aircraft/crewman. Just a downer.

I trained my guys hard. For example, over in Afghanistan we would go out 2-3x a week doing NVG desert brown out landings into gigantic dust clouds and also have them land to mountain top ridges at night using NVG. Probably why half my hair has fallen out and the rest is white...BUT, I am still here, and didn't crash when they weren't shooting at me!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 04, 2022, 09:45:47 AM
I read the chapter in your book last eve about your test flight ( I think test flight is what ya called it) where you had the pilot go through a number of planned errors and the two motors ran away on the barley flying machine. The hard landing after spinning around and around down the runway.   

The reason Don has such grey hair lol


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 04, 2022, 10:54:10 AM
I read the chapter in your book last eve about your test flight ( I think test flight is what ya called it) where you had the pilot go through a number of planned errors and the two motors ran away on the barley flying machine. The hard landing after spinning around and around down the runway.   

The reason Don has such grey hair lol


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That was a check ride. I was giving that pilot his annual flight evaluation. It was the very end of the flight. He was on final to a runway terminating from an instrument approach when all hades broke lose. That was "Wild Ride" right?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Nate on March 04, 2022, 11:42:50 AM
I know this is not a hook video, but I figured this would give Dave some idea of what active duty pilots do and go through.

the hawk you see in the video was piloted by my old brigade commander when she was the battalion commander of 2nd battalion 82 aviation regiment from Fort Bragg.  Colonel (Ret) Carey Wagen.  during the time of this video, she was the first female aviation task force commander in the army and conducting operations in Afghanistan.  the mission that was being conducted in this video was an extraction of special forces from a mountain top (literally).  at the conclusion of this mission, she was heavily praised by the SF community for her skill.

correct me if I am wrong don, but very few pilots ever get training and have the stones big enough to actually execute this? let along the ability to control their aircraft on a point with that much updraft coming from multiple angles?

https://youtu.be/APIpPijMy5k


Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 04, 2022, 12:34:05 PM
I know this is not a hook video, but I figured this would give Dave some idea of what active duty pilots do and go through.

the hawk you see in the video was piloted by my old brigade commander when she was the battalion commander of 2nd battalion 82 aviation regiment from Fort Bragg.  Colonel (Ret) Carey Wagen.  during the time of this video, she was the first female aviation task force commander in the army and conducting operations in Afghanistan.  the mission that was being conducted in this video was an extraction of special forces from a mountain top (literally).  at the conclusion of this mission, she was heavily praised by the SF community for her skill.

correct me if I am wrong don, but very few pilots ever get training and have the stones big enough to actually execute this? let along the ability to control their aircraft on a point with that much updraft coming from multiple angles?

https://youtu.be/APIpPijMy5k



That's a tricky one to be sure. She did a one wheel landing and had to hold that position for a few minutes. Must not have been a very windy/gusty day.
Peaks and ridgelines make for a lot of turbulence and causes the wind to be all tricky. You can't see all the eddys. One second you have a headwind then fifteen seconds later a quartering tailwind.

It is true to say not all pilots can do that sort of thing. Most could on a good day. But do that at night/NVG in windy conditions and the group of folks that could pull that off gets pretty small. I think most Army pilots were pretty good, just inexperienced. I had like 7,000 hours when I left the Army after 20+ years of flying there and I was one of the high time pilots.

Lather when I was lead pilot for guys in Afghanistan, we all had 10,000-15,000 hours. A very experienced Army pilot during those days had maybe 4,000 hours. Although he was at the very top of his game, he was way down the totem pole from my pilots. So far down that if I hired one, I'd have to start him off in something like a Huey and fly him for a couple years just to get to the point where he would be a decent co-pilot.

Army pilots in combat would get something like 70 hours a month. My guys could get over 200 hours in the same length of time. The Army considers its pilots as general purpose officers. Primary job is to fly but they also have massive extra duties like being the supply officer, POL officer, motor officer and other full time jobs. By contrast the Special Operations community does not practice that nonsense but keeps pilots in the cockpits. That's the reason they can do so much more. Now that I have retired, I think the Army model for raising up pilots is mostly wrong, is antiquated, way-way too safety conscious and is more focused on making everyone infantrymen and seem embarrassed that their officers actually fly. Just my opinion...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 04, 2022, 02:17:44 PM
Can you land a helicopter on a slope?

That video looks intense for sure!!


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 04, 2022, 02:20:04 PM
Can you land a helicopter on a slope?

That video looks intense for sure!!


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You can, but for some helos, not much of one. A Cobra, for example was limited to something like 7 degrees. Something like a Hawk or a hook can take 20 degrees if conditions are right
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 05, 2022, 09:14:11 AM
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-60630352

Not a
Chinook but not a DOT


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 05, 2022, 10:33:46 AM
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-60630352

Not a
Chinook but not a DOT


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Part of me is yelling YIPPEE
Another part hates to see men killed
Those guys had mommas/wifes/sons/daughters too

That was a stinger hit I think, although smoky trail may point to Sa-7
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 05, 2022, 01:03:36 PM
Agreed. I blame the mad man at the helm of Russia


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 20, 2022, 03:59:51 PM
Back to a couple of pics

The pics of the thing they are unfolding and hooking to the aircraft is called a "Bambi-Bucket." It holds 1710 gallons of water max, but we use vents to keep it at 1500 gallons or 12,000 lbs of the wet stuff. 12K is starting to get heavy for a Chinook, but it can lift nearly three tons more. A really good load is over 17,000 lbs!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: oklawall on March 21, 2022, 07:01:11 PM
I've seen those used on some of the wild fires around here. That is a bunch of water
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 03, 2022, 09:51:16 AM
Let's do some more pics:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 03, 2022, 09:54:15 AM
^^^^ Btw, max nose down attitude is 30 degrees. I think you can add another 30 to the one above...Brits, always screwin' around!

Jumpers are golden knights. Jumped them a bunch of times myself over at Bragg
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on June 03, 2022, 05:23:26 PM
Which country did I just read about that placed a huge order for hooks?


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 03, 2022, 06:02:33 PM
Which country did I just read about that placed a huge order for hooks?


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Germany is the latest to add them to their Luftwaffe. Borrowing from the US Army mission specific MH-47 of the 160th, they, too, will aerial refuel from their C-160 Transals and have unlimited range.
The hook simply has no competition, none. Other aircraft can lift more, but they need an extra engine or are huge like the CH-53E. I only expect this airframe to continue and will easily serve 100 years or more. First flew in the late 50's, operational in the early 60's!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 03, 2022, 06:06:12 PM
some more
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 03, 2022, 06:09:16 PM
At times I also show pics hinting at the military culture and lifestyle.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 03, 2022, 06:15:08 PM
A little art and entertainment for the right-brain types
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 03, 2022, 06:17:57 PM
It can "Wheelie"

and

Roll over and play dead!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: EL TATE on July 19, 2022, 02:30:21 PM
Recently watched 12 Strong on Netflix. Days after 9/11 the guys that went in on horseback! that had so much Chinook footage in it you MUST have known some of them. MIGHT have just been for the movie but they had one over 50K ft??
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on July 19, 2022, 04:07:29 PM
Recently watched 12 Strong on Netflix. Days after 9/11 the guys that went in on horseback! that had so much Chinook footage in it you MUST have known some of them. MIGHT have just been for the movie but they had one over 50K ft??
They said they flew it to 25,000. So service ceiling is 20,000 for the airframe based on a pressure differential in the flight boost hydraulics, I recall. The engines will continue to produce some good power, but the blades started getting in trouble, due to a phenomena called "Retreating blade stall"

As far as knowing those guys, yea I probably do know some of them personally, but that has been some years since I flew with them. But that was my old unit, exclusively. And the Hook shots were the actual aircraft in that unit.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on July 19, 2022, 04:09:43 PM
let's look at some more shots of these big ole beauties

I remember the day that mushroom cloud formed. I was on the other side of the runway a little closer to it. I don't think it was "Incoming" but some engineers blowing up a lot of stuff. That's a big one!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on July 19, 2022, 04:27:14 PM
I have other pics of this in this thread somewhere.

Sergeant Deetman was once a young private who crewed for me many times. I think he was a Staff Sergeant, E-6 when I left the Night Stalkers to find my way back into the regular Armee, then on to retirement.

Anyway, old Deetman performed well and was a rapid climber. It wasn't long before he had his own aircraft as a young sergeant with his own private or specialist working for him. Well, Brian could be pretty tough on folks, so I guess one of them decided to vocalize his opinion. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying anything bad about Brian, No, he was a really terrific CH-47 Flight Engineer. But one day someone wrote the now famous "Deetman Sucks" in the "F-U" compartment and of course, everyone noticed during the many preflights that aircraft had over the years. So, the thing spread, literally all over. There were parts and boxes of food delivered to soldiers worldwide with the familiar "Deetman Sucks" stamp. There were "Deetman Sucks" rockets fired at bad guys on a couple of continents and right next to the "Hanoi-Jane Urinal targets, you might find a "Deetman Sucks!"

It turned up in every Night Stalker aircraft and also some Marine and Air force planes.

This is funny because some of the earlier Night Stalker airframes were mothballed since the unit was flying them so hard they were going through Chinooks faster than Dave here goes through Chevy trucks. I guess, long after the man retired, someone pulled one of those aircraft out of storage and dropped the big fuel tanks on its side for some serious maintenance. Right there where no man would ever look, always waiting the repercussions of pissing off one private from long ago can still be seen.

So funny!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on July 19, 2022, 04:28:43 PM
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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on July 19, 2022, 04:34:21 PM
And one more post:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on July 19, 2022, 04:35:27 PM
Even had his own stencil, popular.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on July 19, 2022, 04:35:53 PM
Even had his own stencil, popular.
Wasn't his...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on July 31, 2022, 06:29:33 PM
Got some more:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on July 31, 2022, 06:31:49 PM
Pic number two.
Is that anawhetoc?
That was the island chain where we detonated a bunch of surface nuclear weapons.
That dark blue circle looks like the site of a prior nuclear detonation. It matches the description other Army pilots told me about who flew down there.
Kirk, a great friend of mine said he didn't realize what he was looking at until he climbed up one day and saw a perfect dark circle meaning water deeper than a hundred-150 feet I think he said. He could see it clearly and they later told him it was the site of either the first or a subsequent hydrogen bomb detonation that blew the island into two separate islands.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on July 31, 2022, 06:40:07 PM
Here's a couple more for todays installment:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on July 31, 2022, 06:45:51 PM
A blast from the past and a salute to my brothers from an earlier generation

Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on August 04, 2022, 10:58:53 AM
Loaded up some more hook pics:

I'm pretty sure that first pic has the hook flying by the site of America's first hydrogen bomb detonation
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on August 04, 2022, 01:45:05 PM
 :likebutton:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on August 30, 2022, 05:29:51 PM
Always adding hook pics

Actually did that second one during the Panama invasion/operation. The second or third night insertion on north end of the canal
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on August 30, 2022, 10:38:58 PM
Heard they ground them all. Something about non spec orings used for engine rebuilds causing fires.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: oklawall on August 31, 2022, 09:00:51 AM
Heard they ground them all. Something about non spec orings used for engine rebuilds causing fires.
The Chinese flood the military market with counterfeit parts a few years back. They even had government contract info on the package.

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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on August 31, 2022, 09:10:24 AM
True, the entire fleet is currently grounded pending repairs, apparently, of every engine out there.

I've been there before. A transmission issue caused the D-model fleet to be grounded for about 6-9 months. But for we special ops guys, although the fleet was grounded, we were the first to get the mini-teardown and inspection to ensure that little widget in the planetary gearset was tucked in all cozy like it was designed to be. Big Armee was a desert for Hook pilots.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on August 31, 2022, 03:15:13 PM
Think they grounded all the UH-1s a few years back over some head wear, few more of them but mostly civi now.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on August 31, 2022, 10:58:35 PM
Think they grounded all the UH-1s a few years back over some head wear, few more of them but mostly civi now.
Not Armee Hueys. We put them out to pasture in the mid 1990's

Funny how ever since then we needed a helicopter about the size of a Huey...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Nate on August 31, 2022, 11:21:58 PM
Think they grounded all the UH-1s a few years back over some head wear, few more of them but mostly civi now.
Not Armee Hueys. We put them out to pasture in the mid 1990's

Funny how ever since then we needed a helicopter about the size of a Huey...

Dont be too quick to say that, as the uh-1's are still used in whitesands
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on September 01, 2022, 11:34:07 AM
Think they grounded all the UH-1s a few years back over some head wear, few more of them but mostly civi now.
Not Armee Hueys. We put them out to pasture in the mid 1990's

Funny how ever since then we needed a helicopter about the size of a Huey...

Dont be too quick to say that, as the uh-1's are still used in whitesands
Fleetwide, the UH-1H has been discontinued
THere are still a couple to be found, but there is no flight school, Instructor pilot course or MOS progression that supports that airframe. Some gov't agencies purchased SuperHueys like the ones I flew in Kandahar and Kabul, but as far as a saturation or concentration of Huey airframes, no.
The Army operates all sorts of aircraft that are not really on the books. I bet if I looked hard enough, I could find a US Army B-747 pilot. We fly a ton of different airframes, believe me!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Nate on September 01, 2022, 12:26:07 PM
Think they grounded all the UH-1s a few years back over some head wear, few more of them but mostly civi now.
Not Armee Hueys. We put them out to pasture in the mid 1990's

Funny how ever since then we needed a helicopter about the size of a Huey...

Dont be too quick to say that, as the uh-1's are still used in whitesands
Fleetwide, the UH-1H has been discontinued
THere are still a couple to be found, but there is no flight school, Instructor pilot course or MOS progression that supports that airframe. Some gov't agencies purchased SuperHueys like the ones I flew in Kandahar and Kabul, but as far as a saturation or concentration of Huey airframes, no.
The Army operates all sorts of aircraft that are not really on the books. I bet if I looked hard enough, I could find a US Army B-747 pilot. We fly a ton of different airframes, believe me!

oh i believe you 100%.  i was informed last night that WSMR has stopped usage of their uh-1's and have moved everything to the catfish.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on September 01, 2022, 04:35:32 PM
The super Huey is no joke. 130 knots, 11,500 MGWT. If you can close the doors on it, the aircraft can just about lift it. I was flying mine over 12,000 feet in the stan routinely...And they can take a beating!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on October 03, 2022, 05:02:24 PM
A few more
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 24, 2022, 11:39:56 PM
Merry Christmas, 2022
Sponsored by the best helicopter ever built, proudly serving our nation now for sixty-odd years!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 18, 2023, 10:11:31 AM
I was over at the "Innkeeper site and found a ton more...Enjoy
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 18, 2023, 10:16:07 AM
Mostly from Korea
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 18, 2023, 10:19:10 AM
The mark in the snow is a load that fell off my cargo hook from 2,600 feet and went completely underground.

The last photo, I am third from the right. Team Spirit 1988 in S. Korea a bunch of college-age protesters tried to block our way. A bunch of us rushed them and they all ran off leaving this banner, which we took and wrapped around our tent.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 18, 2023, 10:24:02 AM
Gunnery training and a field exercise
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 18, 2023, 10:26:35 AM
More from Korea and fairly recent
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 18, 2023, 10:40:38 AM
River shots are from flying down the Hahn river in the middle of Seoul
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 18, 2023, 10:43:12 AM
Still Korea, Innkeepers...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 18, 2023, 10:45:03 AM
Last from this download from the "InnKeeper" FB page
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 18, 2023, 11:11:43 AM
Self explanatory
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 18, 2023, 04:35:13 PM
From another Chinook crewmember's website:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 18, 2023, 04:37:23 PM
Some more, same site
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 18, 2023, 04:39:44 PM
And the list grows longer...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 18, 2023, 04:42:10 PM
10 more!

The pic of the 53's and 60's and two hooks at Ar-Ar, Saudi-Arabia is from the opening raid during Desert Storm. Half of my company deployed over there to lead and refuel AH-64's that fired up the Iraqi's radar early warning site, while the other mission was to cover the bombing of Tallil airfield. I did door number 2 while these guys in the pic became famous...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 18, 2023, 04:47:41 PM
Chinook people are often referred to as "Hookers."
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 18, 2023, 04:50:24 PM
The silhouettes painted on the side of the Chinook each represents an aircraft it recovered, and sling-loaded back to a base camp, saving it in Vietnam.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: oklawall on March 18, 2023, 08:05:47 PM
There are very few aircraft that have served in the service of this country with enought  distinction that they have retired some to the boneyard and some are still flying.  I'm  sure there are more but I can only think of 4 that have been in service for 50+ years. B-52, KC-135, C-130 and the Chinook.

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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 18, 2023, 08:58:10 PM
There are very few aircraft that have served in the service of this country with enought  distinction that they have retired some to the boneyard and some are still flying.  I'm  sure there are more but I can only think of 4 that have been in service for 50+ years. B-52, KC-135, C-130 and the Chinook.

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And all of those are looking at another 30 years of service. Well designed and ahead of their time, all of them.

Oh and let's not forget the venerable Huey! Started in the early 60's and is a strong workhorse, still, in the US Marine Corps.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on March 19, 2023, 01:59:26 PM
 :likebutton:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 22, 2023, 12:23:34 PM
Recent exercises, 2nd Infantry Division, Korea
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on March 22, 2023, 12:24:48 PM
Same exercise:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on March 22, 2023, 01:40:21 PM
Do they have a sticker for lost loads?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 22, 2023, 06:04:09 PM
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CoqLOKagZq-/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 30, 2023, 07:25:57 PM
https://youtu.be/ygg8BdblKt8
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on June 30, 2023, 07:30:52 PM
Early Desert Shield pic where yours truly is holding up one side
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on June 30, 2023, 11:48:47 PM
Notice "your" pic will not enlarge.

I watch the fluctis channel all the time. Cool stuff but info is way off and they repeat info!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on July 01, 2023, 10:16:33 AM
Notice "your" pic will not enlarge.

I watch the fluctis channel all the time. Cool stuff but info is way off and they repeat info!
It enlarges in my browser...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on July 01, 2023, 01:44:35 PM
Others do, that doesn't even with vpn off.

Does show your best side,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on July 03, 2023, 06:07:35 PM
Helo casting is an interesting mission to fly. You need to maintain a 10 ft hover while going forward 10 knots. We call it ten and ten. The mission can be flown during daylight hours, or by certain crews at night using NVG. It is a relatively high-risk mission which I have done dozens of times, unfortunately, not without injury. Lakes and rivers are preferred; however, I have helo-casted in both major oceans and once in 20+ ft seas.

Extraction of the waterborne troops with the caving ladder is pretty difficult too. The troops will sometimes have chem lights on their head which we use to guide us over the soldier. The helicopter never stops moving so it is incumbent upon the seal, SF, Ranger, or Recon Marine to grab the ladder as it passes by him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfD0dqjhuhk
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on July 07, 2023, 09:37:54 AM
Ouch!

So, I'm guessing the APU exploded.

My hope is that the flight engineer was not standing on the ramp anywhere.

If he was, then he would have a similar appearance.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on July 07, 2023, 09:43:34 AM
Second thought

Not the APU that exploded.

Metal is pushed INWARD from the number 2 engine.

So perhaps it exploded.

And that gash on the side of it is suggestive of a SAM flying into the exhaust nozzle and detonating.

If you look directly downward from the "Mouth" of the gaping hole you can see what looks like a metal ball. That is the oil tank on the APU, a small gas turbine we use to power the aircraft when the main engines are shut down.

It suggests the APU is still there, but since its mounts are blown away, it is just hanging there in the wreckage.

Whatever it is, no one but Boeing will put that thing back to airworthy status again...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on July 07, 2023, 09:55:51 AM
Did some research:

D: Pre-Jan 10, 2019

N/U: US Army/B/3-25th AVN

T: CH-47G Chinook

S: 11-08832

This badly damaged helicopter arrived at RAF Fairford, Gloucestershire, on January 10 on board USAF/437th Airlift Wing C-17A 08-8191. Precise details of its accident are unknown, but it showed extensive damage to the lower area of the rear rotor pylon and the top of the extreme rear fuselage, apparently due to a rotor strike while on the ground in Afghanistan on an unknown date. The Chinook had been deployed to Afghanistan with the 101st Combat Aviation Brigade as part of Task Force No Mercy. It was reportedly due to be transported to the Standard Aero (formerly Vector Aerospace) facility at Fleetlands, Hampshire, for repair, but was still present at Fairford in mid-March.

What I find interesting about this is the fact that this Chinook is reported to be a "G" model, but it is an "F" model. It was first delivered to the Inn Keepers in Camp Humphreys, Korea. (Still in the old hangar I see). The patch on the pylon does not match up with either Korea or the 101st. Further, "G" models are flown only by the 160th SOAR and would have much larger fuel tanks and the landing gear would be in a different location to accommodate the larger tanks. Probably just a bad case of some civilian guessing and not knowing much to begin with...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on July 09, 2023, 03:37:25 PM
Makes sense it was not an in flight issue, whatever happened.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on July 09, 2023, 04:39:42 PM
Makes sense it was not an in flight issue, whatever happened.
Looking at it more, that is about the correct height for a Chinook forward rotor system that is turning...Like the guy behind him did not hit the brakes while ground taxxing! OUCH!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on July 09, 2023, 08:04:29 PM
Well, they probably all walked away.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: EL TATE on August 03, 2023, 03:50:54 PM
Early Desert Shield pic where yours truly is holding up one side

ah the classic chocolate chip BDU's.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on October 21, 2023, 08:32:42 AM
The gray one is interesting.

The Air Force chose the Army's 160th SOAR MH-47E as the replacement of all their MH-53J Pave Low CSAR (Combat Search and Rescue) aircraft

The first pic explains half of the USMC's assault helo/airplane things.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on October 30, 2023, 06:01:40 PM
Nice running landing

https://www.facebook.com/justcrewitco/videos/657281749837377
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 04, 2023, 09:57:10 AM
https://www.facebook.com/justcrewitco/videos/1303691263598853
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 06, 2023, 10:46:00 AM
Found about a million new ones!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 06, 2023, 10:47:59 AM
New (to me) web site, "Just Crew it"
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 06, 2023, 10:49:38 AM
Good stuff, Chinook culture
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 06, 2023, 10:51:00 AM
...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 06, 2023, 10:52:29 AM
One more posting for today:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on November 06, 2023, 12:38:01 PM
 :likebutton:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 07, 2023, 10:21:02 PM
Lets do some more
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 07, 2023, 10:23:16 PM
OK, so a couple of those in the previous thread were something from the future...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on November 07, 2023, 10:39:29 PM
More cool pics. Like the futuristic drawings.

Not sure if have seen em, but the blimp hanger is burning down in Tustin, the old MCAS, sad.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 07, 2023, 10:40:23 PM
More cool pics. Like the futuristic drawings.

Not sure if have seen em, but the blimp hanger is burning down in Tustin, the old MCAS, sad.

It's burning now, as in right now?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on November 07, 2023, 10:53:39 PM
Yes, all over the news. My father worked in those, I played sometimes. Saw my 1st Cobra there.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on November 07, 2023, 10:54:55 PM
https://www.ocregister.com/2023/11/07/former-tustin-air-base-hangars-on-fire/
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 07, 2023, 11:02:31 PM
Too bad! That's a historical site.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on November 07, 2023, 11:13:00 PM
They were considered the largest wood supported structures in the world once. Guess there was only 1 left, the 2 were awesome to see. Watched many a 53 come in there flaring out about 50 ft off the deck. Base housing was at south end of the base, lived there for years. Father taught there and El Toro.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 08, 2023, 11:05:16 AM
OK back to the Chinook pics:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 08, 2023, 11:08:09 AM
...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: TexasRedNeck on November 12, 2023, 07:08:48 PM
Sorry to hear about your brothers in the 160th, Don. 5 lost over Cypress.  Apparently during a night refueling operation.


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 13, 2023, 10:39:24 AM
Sorry to hear about your brothers in the 160th, Don. 5 lost over Cypress.  Apparently during a night refueling operation.


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They are there for you know what...
All these bloody dam wars!
It's never going to stop until Jesus returns, and brave fools are always going to answer the call
And things like this will always continue to happen.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 13, 2023, 10:50:42 AM
We lead off with a photo of the MH-60, the aircraft lost last night.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 16, 2023, 08:04:48 PM
A few more:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 16, 2023, 08:07:07 PM
What the heck, why stop there, right?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on November 16, 2023, 09:01:40 PM
And you snuck a 53 and 64 in there too.

What was the max passengers you ever carried?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 17, 2023, 01:00:56 PM
And you snuck a 53 and 64 in there too.

What was the max passengers you ever carried?
I'm not sure JR. A bunch of times I had an internal tank + 48 Rangers. Once carried around 60-odd Rangers I think. On a hustle where you land and just cube out, might have had more. My unit carried over 100 once, but skinny native-like people, not big Westerners plus some troops.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 18, 2023, 09:10:39 PM
Let's do some more excellent hook pics:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 18, 2023, 09:12:11 PM
Some moar:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 18, 2023, 09:14:33 PM
...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on November 18, 2023, 09:28:45 PM
Dang, couldn't enlarge em!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: oklawall on November 19, 2023, 07:59:40 AM
The one with the broken wind screen was that from another chopper? Can see how it could have  done it to itself.

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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 19, 2023, 10:08:32 AM
The one with the broken wind screen was that from another chopper? Can see how it could have  done it to itself.

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British Chinook who flew into a set of wires...And survived!

My unit flew into that monster set of powerlines down near Camp Pendelton hitting the top wire on the tower. People there said the wire stopped the aircraft in mid-air before snapping. Somehow, and only our good Lord knows, that aircraft and crew survived, although we apparently interrupted power to southern California.
That crash is recorded in no records anywhere because back then our unit was super highly classified. I was in the unit at that time and a part of all those crazy goings on, but not on that flight...Luckily!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 19, 2023, 10:13:24 AM
Dang, couldn't enlarge em!
Yeah, just noticed that.
Something in the settings must have changed
That's a favorite peeve of mine...How settings seemingly change on their own. One day something works this way, and another day, they work another.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 20, 2023, 10:05:03 AM
Recent finds:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 20, 2023, 10:08:36 AM
Moreses:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 23, 2023, 08:21:43 PM
Time for a few more
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 23, 2023, 08:25:00 PM
The next several posts all contain these smaller size pics...Sorr-ee.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on November 23, 2023, 08:27:17 PM
Can't wait to get back to larger clickable pics...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 02, 2023, 05:22:57 PM
Picked up a few more:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 02, 2023, 05:34:01 PM
Some more of the lower quality pics
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on December 03, 2023, 01:10:21 PM
Bladestrike? Hope the gunner/observer was someplace else.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 03, 2023, 01:23:05 PM
Bladestrike? Hope the gunner/observer was someplace else.
Motar
That is an ancient "B" model from Vietnam that was hit during the evening mortar or rocket attack. Look at the frag pattern on the forward pylon.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 08, 2023, 11:47:46 PM
From the Inn Keepers site:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 08, 2023, 11:50:09 PM
More from the Inn Keepers:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 08, 2023, 11:52:39 PM
Mixed bunch of pics

Last one was B co 3-160, Desert Storm at KKMC
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 23, 2023, 11:24:05 AM
A few more:
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 23, 2023, 11:27:24 AM
Ah, let's keep going!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 23, 2023, 11:31:46 AM
OK, OK, here's some more ;-)
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 23, 2023, 11:33:47 AM
Indian Army variant??
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 23, 2023, 11:36:08 AM
Yea, those were weird^^^^^^
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 23, 2023, 11:42:34 AM
Crew chief is a Jeep lover?? (supposed to be seven vertical slots!)

SSG (Brian) Deetman has become immortal. Reminiscent of WW2, "Kilroy was here" People who don't even know Deetman (I do) still write those immortal words!

And some more hook humor...
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on December 23, 2023, 11:54:13 AM
Some engineers set the maximum bank angle of the Chinook at 60 degrees. and the maximum nose low attitude at 30 degrees. What do they know?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 01, 2024, 09:01:35 AM
OK, OK, I'll buy one!


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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 06, 2024, 08:54:58 PM
Yea, maybe just a little too low...

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Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on January 07, 2024, 01:27:19 PM
Yea, maybe just a little too low...

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Well, if no one got hurt, it wasn't to low.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 07, 2024, 04:57:32 PM
Yea, maybe just a little too low...

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Well, if no one got hurt, it wasn't to low.
Yea, the way I feel
But
I doubt the Safety Officer and the Commander would share the same belief.
My money says that the pilot in command is having to work pretty hard to keep his wings.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on January 07, 2024, 05:43:57 PM
Someone gave him clearance, Maverik would be proud.

Maybe a good ass chewing but I would not have wanted to be under those blades!
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 08, 2024, 08:39:04 PM
Someone gave him clearance, Maverik would be proud.

Maybe a good ass chewing but I would not have wanted to be under those blades!
No, me either. And for the record, that is too low and taking unnecessary risk. That rotor blade is 27.5 feet in length. I'd say the blades were passing from 5-10 feet from things and people. Unfortunately, if I had to sit on the FEB board where we can actually remove a pilot's wings, I could not have voted in favor of this guy. Soldiers and our equipment are precious. And we have a finite number of 47's. He showed a blatant disregard for all of that. Either that or he seriously misjudged his aircraft's position.
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: JR on January 08, 2024, 08:44:53 PM
I understand, it was close, but cool.

Aren't they building them?
Title: Re: Chinooks
Post by: Flyin6 on January 08, 2024, 09:19:26 PM
I understand, it was close, but cool.

Aren't they building them?
Building them? As in is Boeing still building Chinooks? Yes they are. Many armies around the world are purchasing them. Most of the active Chinooks in the US Army were first built in the 60's. They just keep getting rebuilt. Most started as "B" and "C" models. Now we had the "D", the "E", and now the "F". A very special special operations variant, the "G" model is flown only by the US Army's 160th SOAR.

I don't think any other helo on earth provides that much lift per pound of aircraft weight. Eliminating the tail rotor is the secret and the counter-rotating rotor system is torque canceling and that long fuselage tends to fly well in rough air.
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