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Then I believe that federal law should promote armed protectors that won't hide behind a desk, at our schools. Bad guys gravitate to gun free zones.
this might not go as planned, but here it goes. I'm all for gun rights, but practically we have to do something to prevent more of these massacres.I believe we have to start with better reporting of disqualifying events; prove to me you are efficient with the laws we already have before you earn the right to pass more.e.g. the church shooter in Texas, DO discharge from AF for domestic abuse, not reported, should have DQd him immediately. , countless people falsifying their 4473 and not prosecuted when rejected. FBI and local LE not taking the reports seriously on this wack job in FL. There should be a high bar but a bar none the less on removing mentally ill people from their weapons.Then I believe that federal law should promote armed protection of our schools. Bad guys gravitate to gun free zones.
Quote from: TexasRedNeck on February 26, 2018, 08:39:00 PMthis might not go as planned, but here it goes. I'm all for gun rights, but practically we have to do something to prevent more of these massacres.I believe we have to start with better reporting of disqualifying events; prove to me you are efficient with the laws we already have before you earn the right to pass more.e.g. the church shooter in Texas, DO discharge from AF for domestic abuse, not reported, should have DQd him immediately. , countless people falsifying their 4473 and not prosecuted when rejected. FBI and local LE not taking the reports seriously on this wack job in FL. There should be a high bar but a bar none the less on removing mentally ill people from their weapons.Then I believe that federal law should promote armed protection of our schools. Bad guys gravitate to gun free zones. Agreed as long as the there is a way to challenge the system if you are listed by mistake or by fraudulent means. Its VERY easy to get on lists but very hard to get removed.
All that said, I do think anything that allows a high cyclic rate needs to be regulated. Not necessarily banned but stamped like a FA weapon. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Adding more laws won’t fix the moral decay in our society.
Quote from: stlaser on March 07, 2018, 09:27:14 AM Adding more laws won’t fix the moral decay in our society.
Funny deal Shawn... we pretty much agree. Laws won't fix mass shootings (correct) Some well thought out rules, may prevent some...if enforced... (debatable) As I see it, the laws are coming, regardless. That's what a society that's morally decayed does. They make stupid laws to replace common sense and moral values. Study history....this is quite clear, and factually what has always happened. So...the laws will come, which side do we want to be on? Do we want to be Morally valued/responsible to see/call out... there is a issue, and in some areas we as gun owners can bring forth more common sense, responsibility and do what we can to make sure we have set a standard? Or we will be dictated to how we shall live by that very decay we have discussed? It's not just about laws new or old.. it's about the big picture. Lets face it... if society was "healthy" that Sheriff, much the school administration, and some FED's, and who knows who else would be unemployed, and likely in a few cases, detained and held responsible. As most are, this was preventable on many levels of obvious reality. Your right, society failed... I just don't buy into the logic that we as gun owners don't hold some of that responsibility. We can do better and not infringe our rights. We can as a HUGE part of this country's citizens say we will not tolerate this decay...we will do WHAT it takes to put a stop to this. The "what" regarding laws/rules whatever should be OUR rules of said engagement....not some politician or professor or media personality. Our Ideas offered, vetted against OUR constitution, assuring no one gives up rights. But towards a goal of doing our part... to PROTECT our rights.Once that has been established....maybe society will see the REAL issue. Some of that decay falls at the feet of gun owners who can't seem to distinguish between the right to bare arms.... and the convenience of bearing arms. If I bitch slapped every person I saw with a AR15 at the range who has ZERO clue how to handle that weapon (likely any other weapon also) and confiscated said weapon, I'd own a few hundred AR's. We have all seen it, we all know that's true, and maybe we should establish exactly what should be done about it? These "shooters" by default, despite our wishes, are gun owners. Are we policing our ranks to the best of our abilities on ALL levels?Obviously we are not...