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Christian Persecution in America by the goverment has begun
« on: September 04, 2015, 08:41:47 AM »
I am outraged by this liberal judge's actions. It is immoral, illegal, violates Mrs. Davis 1st amendment rights and due process. It is an attempt to silence Christian believers or enslave them. Be clear on this, this is an illegal action.

Please ask yourself a critical question. If the court, who is obviously responsible to uphold the law, acts illegally, and you fight back, are you the unlawful one?

I ask you to think about that because the once clear lines of justice and law have become blurred and twisted because of this gay activist agenda. We are hated by them, and they will not stop with just one Mrs. Davis...





Cruz rips federal judge's 'tyranny' in clerk's case

'Where is the call for President Obama to resign for ignoring and defying our immigration laws'
 
By Paul Bremmer

GOP president hopeful Sen. Ted Cruz, on Thursday accused U.S. District Judge David Bunning of “judicial tyranny” for jailing a Kentucky county clerk who refused to violate her Christian faith and issue licenses to same-sex couples.

He said those who are calling for her removal from office – she can’t be fired, she can only be impeached if she chooses not to quit – are hypocrites.

“Where is the call for President Obama to resign for ignoring and defying our immigration laws, our welfare reform laws, and even his own Obamacare?” Cruz said. “When the mayor of San Francisco and President Obama resign, then we can talk about Kim Davis.

“Those who are persecuting Kim Davis believe that Christians should not serve in public office. That is the consequence of their position. Or, if Christians do serve in public office, they must disregard their religious faith – or be sent to jail,” he continued. “Kim Davis should not be in jail. We are a country founded on Judeo-Christian values, founded by those fleeing religious oppression and seeking a land where we could worship God and live according to our faith, without being imprisoned for doing so.

“I call upon every believer, every constitutionalist, every lover of liberty to stand with Kim Davis. Stop the persecution now.”

Bunning summoned Rowan County clerk Kim Davis to his courtroom on Thursday after she defied his order to violate her faith and issue licenses to same-sex couples.

Bunning, who previously has ruled in favor of partial-birth abortion and homosexual clubs for high schoolers, said a fine simply wasn’t enough punishment for her and ordered her to jail until she agrees to issue the licenses.

Then he ordered her assistants to either issue the licenses or join her in jail. Five of the six agreed, several under protest.

Bunning later tried to resolve the case by telling Davis to come back to his courtroom and she could go if she agreed not to interfere with her deputies’ actions, according to reports.

She refused.

Cruz said: “Today, judicial lawlessness crossed into judicial tyranny. Today, for the first time ever, the government arrested a Christian woman for living according to her faith. This is wrong. This is not America.

“I stand with Kim Davis. Unequivocally. I stand with every American that the Obama administration is trying to force to choose between honoring his or her faith or complying with a lawless court decision,” he said. “In dissent, Chief Justice Roberts rightly observed that the court’s marriage decision has nothing to do with the Constitution. Justice Scalia observed that the court’s decision was so contrary to law that state and local officials would choose to defy it.

“For every politician – Democrat and Republican – who is tut-tutting that Davis must resign, they are defending a hypocritical standard. Where is the call for the mayor of San Francisco to resign for creating a sanctuary city – resulting in the murder of American citizens by criminal illegal aliens welcomed by his lawlessness?”

Paul Kengor, author of “Takedown: From Communists to Progressives, How the Left Has Sabotaged Family and Marriage,  today “it’s the county clerk, tomorrow it will be the florist, the baker, the photographer, the pastor, and on and on,” warned

“Get ready for the persecution coming near you – all, of course, in the name of ‘love’ and ‘tolerance,’” he said. “This has only just begun.”

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Kengor was not surprised by the jailing. He said a moment like this became inevitable as soon as Anthony Kennedy and four other Supreme Court justices declared “same-sex marriage” a constitutional right in June.

“For the apostles of tolerance and diversity, this is what their ‘tolerance’ and ‘diversity’ actually look like in practice,” Kengor told WND. “It is intolerance. It is coercion. It is pickets, boycotts, fines, penalties, demonization, and, in some cases, incarceration. Welcome to the Left’s new America, where those who disagree with the Left’s ongoing invention of new ‘rights’ are penalized by the state.”

Michael Brown, a WND columnist, said the case exemplifies why he wrote his new book “Outlasting the Gay Revolution.”

“There will be a price to pay, but it is only as we stand firm that change will come,” Brown told WND. “Kim Davis is paying a very real price now.”

Prior to her court appearance, Davis told Fox News’ Todd Starnes she was prepared to go to jail for her beliefs, saying, “This is a fight worth fighting.”

She actually stopped issuing any marriage licenses after the Supreme Court’s Obergefell decision so she would not be discriminating against any group.

“This is why the very first principle in the book is ‘Never Compromise Your Convictions’ and the fourth principle is ‘Refuse to Redefine Marriage,’” Brown said. “This is the great moral, cultural, and spiritual test of our generation. Will we do what is right in God’s sight – which is in the ultimate best interests of our society – or will we cave in and capitulate?”

Kengor warned that progressives will be ruthless on this matter.

“Be prepared for something even more shocking from the Left – the lack of apologies and regrets,” he said. “Liberals will defend and even applaud the sight of this woman being hauled off to jail.”

Indeed, hundreds of people outside the courthouse chanted, “Love won! Love won!”

Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee tweeted his support for Davis: “Kim Davis in federal custody removes all doubts about the criminalization of Christianity in this country. We must defend #ReligiousLiberty!” he said.

Brian Brown of the National Organization for Marriage said the fault rests with the Supreme Court, which created the conflict between the enumerated constitutional right of free religious exercise and the newly created “same-sex marriage” right.

“It is outrageous to jail Kim Davis because she does not want to personally be part of certifying same-sex ‘marriages’ that violate her deeply held religious beliefs about the nature of marriage,” said Brown. “What this judge is saying is that now that the Supreme Court has illegitimately redefined marriage, every single person in government if not in the country must stand in salute and participate in the act. That is profoundly wrong and violates the spirit of federal law which provides that the government must seek ways to reasonably accommodate people’s religious views in the workplace.”

He said: “While Judge Bunning is the instrument of the inhumane punishing of Kim Davis, the authors of it are the five justices of the U.S. Supreme Court who illegitimately, without a shred of constitutional authority, redefined marriage without any regard to the profound implications their ruling would have on law-abiding, faithful Americans. With this ruling, the idea of religious freedom that is at the heart of our constitution has been eliminated when it comes to exercising beliefs about marriage. It’s a profound shredding of the constitution on the altar of gay activism.”

Penny Nance, president of Concerned Women for America, said that Davis’ “predicament is the direct result of the lawlessness promoted by the Supreme Court of the United States itself with its unconstitutional Obergefell decision.”

“It’s flippant, and frankly insulting, treatment of religious liberty and Obergefell is a disgrace to that great institution.”

AL.com reported Davis’ lawyer, Mat Staver of Liberty Counsel, said, “While she may be behind bars for now, Kim Davis is a free woman. Her conscience remains unshackled.”

Raw Story reported the White House expressed no concern for Davis or religious freedom, with spokesman Josh Earnest saying: “There’s a rule of law and the principle of the rule of law is central to our democracy. And it’s appropriate in this instance for a federal judge to determine the best way to enforce the law.”

A legislative leader in Kentucky had asked the judge to delay the case until lawmakers could provide a resolution, but Bunning refused. He also refused, according to Davis’ supporters, to provider her due process.

WBKO in Bowling Green quoted one pastor raising a question that Bunning failed to address.

Tom James of Eastwood Baptist Church told the station: “The Supreme Court didn’t make a law, they just interpreted the one that was already on the books. … The First Amendment guarantees our freedom to practice our faith, and just because she is a public official, I don’t know of any law that says she loses that freedom.”

Another pastor criticized her for not following the ruling in her position as county clerk. However, “same-sex marriage” was not the law when Davis was elected.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/09/cruz-rips-federal-judges-tyranny-in-clerks-case/#YCzFVYhVU7x8gHCP.99
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Re: Christian Persecution in America by the goverment has begun
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2015, 09:09:26 AM »
It continues...

Mrs Davis is still in jail

And now the organization "Go Fund Me" which collects monies to help causes, just banned collecting money for the defense of Mrs Davis.

Our enemies are showing their hands here.

Comment about that. I tend to look at the world from a black or white viewpoint. Like Jesus did. Either it is sin or it is not. Either things are good or not. That is helpful for me and automatically rules out the evil principal of political correctness. Therefore since this go-fund-me organization is taking an active stance against something which is right it is evil in my assessment.




GoFundMe nixes fundraiser for Kentucky clerk

Site claims Kim Davis' case violates updated terms and conditions
The left-leaning fundraising site GoFundMe has declined to accept a fundraising campaign for jailed Rowan County, Kentucky, clerk Kim Davis.




 


Davis was jailed on Thursday for defying a federal court order to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples following the U.S. Supreme Court’s ruling in Obergefell v. Hodges in June. She was ordered detained for contempt of court and later rejected a proposal to allow her deputies to process same-sex marriage licenses that could have prompted her release. She has become the symbol of religious opposition to the heavy-handed tactics of the “gaystapo” who are ramming same-sex marriage through at the federal level across the nation in opposition of religious conservatives.

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U.S. News and World Report noted, “In sending her to jail, U.S. District Judge David Bunning ignored the American Civil Liberties Union’s request that Davis be fined to compel compliance with orders that she issue marriage licenses. ACLU attorney Heather Weaver, who is working on the case, said there was testimony about fundraising efforts on Davis’ behalf, apparently a factor in the judge’s decision not to impose financial penalties.”

Davis will remain incarcerated until she agrees to resume issuing licenses, including those for same-sex marriage.

Supporters attempted to initiate a GoFundMe campaign for her defense, but were thwarted by the site’s Terms and Conditions, which were updated on April 29 to specify the site can choose not to allow “campaigns in defense of formal charges or claims of heinous crimes, violent, hateful, sexual or discriminatory acts.”

These terms were updated in response to the massive support behind the bakery Sweet Cakes By Melissa, which declined to bake a wedding cake for a lesbian couple and were slapped with a $135,000 fine. A GoFundMe fundraiser raised over $109,000 within a few hours in support of the family before being abruptly shut down, possibly in response to the complaints of a competing bakery.

GoFundMe has developed a reputation for punitively denying fundraising efforts for causes it deems contrary to its progressive agenda. As one website put it, “GoFundMe bans Christians from trying to help other Christians.”




In a statement regarding their decision to close the Sweet Cakes account, GoFundMe wrote: “After careful review by our team, we have found the ‘Support Sweet Cakes By Melissa’ campaign to be in violation of our Terms and Conditions. The money raised thus far will still be made available for withdrawal. While a different campaign was recently permitted for a pizzeria in Indiana, no laws were violated and the campaign remained live. However, the subjects of the ‘Support Sweet Cakes By Melissa’ campaign have been formally charged by local authorities and found to be in violation of Oregon state law concerning discriminatory acts. Accordingly, the campaign has been disabled.”

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However, a fast search through GoFundMe confirms the fundraising site has many requests for financial assistance from those facing legal actions, including criminal convictions. These include criminal trespassing and obstructing official business; possession of psychedelics; and prescription forgery (convicted of a third degree felony).

Most disturbingly, there is a GoFundMe campaign for aggravated sexual assault on a child (resulting in a 99-year prison sentence).

On Saturday, hundreds of people rallied in Grayson in support of Davis

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/09/gofundme-nixes-fundraiser-for-kentucky-clerk/#MRmkMioUawsXUPlu.99
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Re: Christian Persecution in America by the goverment has begun
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2015, 08:41:58 PM »
We may well be looking at the next Martin Luther King here with Mrs Davis standing for her beliefs in God and his word. And as it turns out, she is actually obeying the Kentucky state constitution.
You see laws are made by our congress, and only by our congress. Which means the ruling the supreme court made is actually illegal. They can't make law. They can't tell states to do something that the individual states have ruled on otherwise.

When we ruled same sex marriage is legal, we ceased being a country governed by the rule of law and became a country ruled by men, just like that.
Now Mrs Davis sits in jail, not because she didn't obey the law...No, Kentucky law specifically states marriage is between a man and a woman, not between a man and a man or a woman and a dog, or a man and a piece of bacon...Nope, a man and a woman.

Mrs Davis sits in jail because she is in contempt of court. More accurately she is in contempt of a single judge who shares a political ideology which runs counter to law. So this martyr, Mrs Davis is in jail for doing the right thing. But she pissed off the left so they had one of their boys lock her up. They thought, because they are godless and have little or no courage, that she, (Like they would do) would roll over and they'd have their victory. But we have God and the example of Jesus dying on a cross as our guide, and they really don't understand just how committed we are.

This is the stuff that gets wars and revolutions started. Folks this is really, really big. You/we are now living in a gray area where one man or woman, a judge can do what they please, it would appear with or without the support of law!

So I ask you, if a mob of Christians decide enough is enough, and they break into the jail house and free Mrs Davis, have they broken the law? Or have they set a wrong, right?

You decide, because it seems you are going to have to choose a path someday sooner than later it would appear.



As you read this column, Kim Davis is sitting in jail.

What crime did she commit?

Actually, no crime. The Rowan County Kentucky clerk is in jail for contempt of court because she refused, on the basis of her First Amendment rights, to issue a same-sex marriage certificate.

Some people suggest she broke the law in doing so.

I disagree. In this case, Kim Davis seems to be one of the few parties involved in this controversy actually obeying the law.

The scofflaws in this case are the majority of the U.S. Supreme Court who violated the Constitution by legislating, a power explicitly denied to any branch of government except Congress. Congress had overwhelmingly approved a law that defined marriage as a union between one man and one woman.

Likewise, if we turn to the Constitution of Kentucky, we find this plain English provision: “Only a marriage between one man and one woman shall be valid or recognized as a marriage in Kentucky. A legal status identical or substantially similar to that of marriage for unmarried individuals shall not be valid or recognized.”

The U.S. Supreme Court has no authority to overturn the Constitution of any state. There are provisions in the law to amend state constitutions, just as there are provisions in the U.S. Constitution to amend it.

So which law did Kim Davis break or defy by refusing to issue a same-sex marriage certificate?

No law.

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But, you might say, she defied a court order directing her to issue the certificate. That is true. She defied an illegal court order, one that was in defiance of the Kentucky Constitution.

We’re all mixed up in this country. We can’t get our heads on straight. America was set apart from the other countries in the world in that it was to be a nation under the rule of law, not a nation under the rule of men. There’s a big difference. That difference defines America politically – or did for some 230 years.

Kim Davis is a hero. She should be celebrated for what she did – and what she is still doing. Martin Luther King did the same thing back in the 1960s, and we commemorate his birthday nearly 60 years later.

Instead, she is vilified and incarcerated.

People have threatened to kill Davis and burn down her house because of her decision to stand by principle and to honor the rule of law and her religious convictions.

She finds herself incarcerated because four couples sued her, arguing she must fulfill her duties as an elected official despite her personal religious beliefs.

“This situation absolutely didn’t have to happen, if only Kim Davis followed the law,” said Sarah Warbelow, legal director of Human Rights Campaign, the country’s largest lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender activist lobby.

What law was that?

Warbelow and millions of others can’t cite any law except those that support Davis’ position. They can only cite a Supreme Court ruling. But here’s what the U.S. Constitution unambiguously has to say about lawmaking: “All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.”

It doesn’t say “some” legislative powers. It doesn’t say “most” legislative powers. It says “all” legislative powers.

For those who don’t understand the plain meaning of “legislative,” let me give you the unambiguous dictionary definition: “having the function of making laws.”

The U.S. Supreme Court has no law-making authority. If and when the U.S. Supreme Court pretends to have such authority, it has broken the highest law of the land.

So who is Kim Davis, and why is she in jail for standing up to the rule of law?

Four years ago, at the age of 44, Kim Davis had an epiphany, repented of her sins and pledged her life to serving God as she listened to the preachings from the book of Galatians. Yes, she’s a sinner like everyone else in this world. She admits to making “major mistakes” in her life. She had been divorced three times. She had two children while she was unmarried.

“She made some mistakes,” says her lawyer, Mat Staver. “She’s regretful and sorrowful. That life she led before is not the life she lives now. She asked for and received forgiveness and grace. That’s why she has such a strong conscience.”

This case is all about two things – the law and her conscience.

About her actions, she says: “It is a heaven or hell decision.”

In court she testified that she prayed and fasted over her decision to stop issuing marriage licenses. “It wasn’t just a spur-of-the-moment decision. It was thought out, and I sought God on it,” she said.

By the way, did I tell you she is a Democrat?

She was elected to her position in 2014. Because she is elected, she cannot be fired.

“No authority exists for her removal or suspension from the office by Rowan County government,” explained Rowan County attorney Cecil Watkins, who does not support Davis’ decision. “Kentucky state government is the only entity that can move to have Kim Davis removed as Rowan county clerk.”

Kim Davis is standing in the breach – a breach that has become a wide gulf in America between the rule of law and the rule of men, between the desires of people to defy God and those with a commitment to stand up for God, between those who do what’s right in their own eyes and those who do what’s right in God’s eyes.

It’s time for more people in America to start living like Kim Davis.

If you want to support her, consider a donation to Liberty Counsel, the organization devoted to defending religious freedom.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/09/the-law-abider-who-sits-in-jail/#DCI7vo0CD1BBpYGc.99
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