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Hi all, still doing some research for my first pistol purchase. I've had a little bit of training using the 226 when I did basic officer training with the Navy, and have fired a couple other semi-auto pistols at ranges. I've never personally fired the Glock (any Glock for that matter). For anyone that has used both, how does the Glock 17 compare to the Sig? Does the Glock trigger take some getting used to? I loved to shoot the Sig, and found it was comfortable. Just looking for some opinions, reviews etc. Thanks, and Merry Christmas!
So, Bobby...being the calculating trained warrior NCO that you are. Take the appropriate action, Execute!
your standard grunt level CQB is just putting rounds and rounds on scary stuff till it stops scaring you!
Check to see if there are people you work with that will ,based on the law of averages, own one or both of those pistols. Offer to provide the 9mm and most people will happily agree to let you test fire.I fired both at a range up by me. My opinions, from what I can remember...226Decent triggerTop heavyGrip was ok,the angle is based on the 1911 angle, which I love, just didn't feel right on a 226. The newer versions have a re-designed grip. Might have replaceable backstraps.Parts aren't as plentiful, at least that I know of, your AO might be different.17Good trigger, audible resetBalanced rather wellGrip is based on the Luger angle, so it points high for some people, low for others.. Personal variances always happen.Replaceable backstraps in the newer Gen4s. They make the grip thicker (front to back) and add a beavertail as some people have received wicked slide bite.On the topic of parts/upgrades, there are infinitely more parts out there for Glocks than SIGs. Just the nature of the beast I suppose. So always keep that in the back of your head.What does this young (I'm assuming) Naval ossifer wish to do with said pistols will also help determine which is better suited for you. Also, just to add variety to your life, I'm going to suggest you take a look at the M&P series pistols. They have great ergonomics, and are very comfortable to shoot.
Haha well I used to be a young ossifer, 11 years ago!! No longer in the service now though. The purpose of the pistol would be mostly for target shooting, and to become proficient in the use of a pistol. Your point about parts availability is a good one, and may be the deciding factor. I do have a local glock dealer, but nothing local for Sig (all Sig stuff would have to be mail ordered). I mostly looked into Sig because I had used one before and they do have a reputation for high quality. I do hear great things about the Glocks as well though! Would ultimately like to get into competition shooting, likely in the production handgun type class or something like that.
Bobby knows what he is talking about!I own a M&P9C, the M&P in 9mm compact. It is my wife's CC gun. It comes with three back straps, she uses the little one, me the larger one. I found that she limp wristed that gun when it was new, but during one deployment which for me was usually somewhere around 5 months, during that time she fired probably nearly 1400 rounds. The gun was running fine with her at the helm when we did a range day when I got back and discovered she shot up all my good HP ammo and left the worthless 115gr ball stuff intact!!!!!!!!!!!!Now that grip is important. My youngest daughter who stands 5'8" and is strong was with us that day at the range somehow she changed her grip and the slide caught her thumb nail and nearly tore it off...as in folded it all the way back!Man it was ugly...as in I was looking at that and saying to myself, "Seriously???"I personally like the M&P but it is little more than a glock copycat. especially when comparing it to a gen 4 G-gun.I've been in several shooter groups deployed in the sandboxes. Except when we were on some silly gov't contract which specified the M9, we always carried the G-19 and one time the G21. After that little foray, I ordered one online from Kabul and had it waiting for me when I came back stateside. Just a big club of a gun.I'm just a big G-19, G23, G30 fan. I switch them out for my CC guns except that the G30 is about as concealable as a football. If I had to pick a single gun it would be the G23 hands down, then the G19, followed by whatever came out of the drawer next!
Problem is that where I live, if a pistol barrel is less than or equal to 4.125", I basically can't own it. And even to own any pistol with a longer barrel I still need a restricted license, PLUS an authorization to transport for each pistol, and must belong to a restricted-approved range, and I can only transport it from my residence to the range and back. Not allowed shooting in the woods, or in a gravel pit or where ever else. No concealed or open carry allowed etc. So considering the options you guys suggested, I'm pretty much limited to the Glock 17 size (ie. standard size) or the competition pistols. I could get a G19 or G23 or something like that, as long as it had a longer barrel put on it, but then, I might as well get the G17 at that point eh? Unless there's a benefit to having a G19 with a 4.5 inch barrel ?
We are allowed a threaded barrel, just not allowed to put a suppressor on it, since they're "prohibited" :(
Yeah I think I'm coming to the same conclusion Bobby, thanks for the input everyone!
Pics or it didn't happen! Congrats on your new investment in freedom!
Same advice as from Bobby. Get ammo and practice. That is a great platform.
Establish good habits early with the AR. Sweep the safety every time you bring it up to get on target and every time you lower it from the target. It becomes instinctive after you practice it a while.
Hmmm, I've been driving that AR for decades literally and in several shooting schools, and I never did that.But it sounds like a good practice, good idea. Bobby, Blaine, Nate, you guys like that idea? Odd but having attended the SOAR (Special Operations Aviation Training) Shot with 5th SFG, 3rd SFG and 10th SFG, Three different Seal Teams, Marines, having attended BlackWater shooting courses twice, and another shooting school in the Va. area, none of them taught that, but I have to say I like it.Me, I use the classic M1 trigger guard (Keep the finger out of the trigger guard and off the trigger.)
The sweep of the safety and trigger finger discipline is the way to go.
Not that all units admit to TRADOC conformity but the safe to semi from low ready to high ready is doctrine. I'm sure rain man "Nate" will spit out the TM for us in the AM. All of the legit operators I have ever had the pleasure to stack up with operated in that manner. Obviously we clear structures from the high ready, on semi, and finger in the "universal cover" position, but any time your eye is relieved from your sight the selector is swept back to safe.
Well, I finally made a choice. I found a used 226 for what I thought was a good price. It's an older model (1994), made in West Germany. Should have it in the mail in a week or so!!
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb. I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
Quote from: rcampbell on June 14, 2015, 11:24:10 AMWell, I finally made a choice. I found a used 226 for what I thought was a good price. It's an older model (1994), made in West Germany. Should have it in the mail in a week or so!!Congratulations. If you ever break it down to the last screw make sure you do it on a smooth clean surface and not on a table in the grass. Those little parts are hard to find with they fly off the table into the grass. Don't ask me how I know.Which trigger set up does it have?I have the DAK which, I believe stands for something in German that means I can't pull the trigger long enough and hard enough while still keeping it on target.One day I would like to send it off to have the SRT put in, which is the Short Reset Trigger.
DAK : Double Action Kellerman