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Title: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on August 22, 2022, 07:38:43 PM
After waiting months, I finally took delivery of my car this morning
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on August 22, 2022, 07:43:34 PM
The process is pretty stress-free. You just show up on time, pair your phone and key cards to your car and drive away. I did have to sign a few forms and I did tour around some and stumbled across my Tesla dream car a Model S Plaid. That's the one that does the quarter in 9.2 seconds.

After driving my car which runs the quarter in 11.50, owning one of those has to be an out-of-body experience.

Anyway, we made a cool half-day out of it. Here is the first glance I had of it on the charger, topping it off to nearly 300 miles range, and just after they pulled it up into the delivery lane

The last pic is of the plaid.
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on August 22, 2022, 07:46:13 PM
We were pretty happy
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on August 22, 2022, 07:49:15 PM
After a short session setting the car up for the drive home, I took I-71 south through Cincinnati. What a nice comfortable drive. The AC is very adjustable and works great, even with a tinted glass roof. An hour later, I pulled into the driveway
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on August 22, 2022, 08:00:02 PM
After driving around some to get used to it, I subjected myself to the G-forces this car can generate. One really needs to experience it to believe a car can run like that. The power comes on instantly and can be nearly violent. I'd say, be sure you are ready for it when you stab the throttle.

After all that, and with the car which has some A.I. software going on, the car is still learning about itself and the world. Like a big baby, this car has to learn about the world and as it does it will slowly give you more and more features. I have not driven enough at this point to use the autopilot. All it will give me at the moment is cruise control. The manual says the car needs around 200 miles of different kinds of driving to have learned enough to be ready to drive itself. It is pretty smart already. It knows when you are close to the grass, as in off-road, and will squawk at you to get back on the pavement. It knows when there are traffic cones. Kathy was opening the door when it squawked, and I noticed a barrier pole near her door! While you are driving along, on your screen it displays the position of all the other vehicles around you and accurately displays a semi as a semi and a car as a car, and so forth

Next was a training visit to the supercharger station. I plugged in with 189 miles range. It told me I had 21 minutes of charge time, but in maybe 15 I was charged to nearly 290 miles. I noticed the mileage remaining correlates pretty well with the miles you are traveling. That goes out the window when you floor it for a 0-70 shot or two.
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on August 22, 2022, 08:03:07 PM
I think the total charge for the added 90 odd miles was around $5, so in this case about 80-90 mpg equavilent. This supercharger station thing is three times the cost of charging at home.

Had to do some paperwork as always...
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on August 22, 2022, 08:05:54 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^Tried to turn the pics upright but it didn't work!!!!
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: stlaser on August 23, 2022, 06:02:56 AM
You look happy, congrats. Now with all your fuel savings maybe you can afford a steel welding table? I mean you did just buy an electric car so there is hope!

Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 23, 2022, 08:42:03 AM
Congrats Don.


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Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: oklawall on August 23, 2022, 08:56:06 AM
You look happy, congrats. Now with all your fuel savings maybe you can afford a steel welding table? I mean you did just buy an electric car so there is hope!
This brings up a question. With the batterieson this thing does it come with some welding connections so you can do repair or build somethingwith it?

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Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on August 23, 2022, 09:25:03 AM
You look happy, congrats. Now with all your fuel savings maybe you can afford a steel welding table? I mean you did just buy an electric car so there is hope!


Got it covered...Scored a good piece of 3/4" Marine grade plywood! Gonna be weldin' up a storm now!
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on August 23, 2022, 09:32:42 AM
You look happy, congrats. Now with all your fuel savings maybe you can afford a steel welding table? I mean you did just buy an electric car so there is hope!
This brings up a question. With the batterieson this thing does it come with some welding connections so you can do repair or build somethingwith it?

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Don't know about that, but it comes with a strange towing apparatus! In the "Frunk" on the floor, there is a recess that securely mounts a substantial ring eye bolt that screws into the front structure via an access plug. Maybe it's used to pull jeeps out which are stuck on the side of the road...dunno...?
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on August 23, 2022, 09:37:52 AM
I mean, it's already AWD (4WD)
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Bigdave_185 on August 23, 2022, 10:05:42 AM
When do we see the metal fab front and rear bumpers, extra batteries rack, light bar and such?

What’s the protocol for a spare tire/wheel combo?

Regardless of the power plant it’s a great looking color! 
Burnout video?


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Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: wilsonphil on August 23, 2022, 10:59:21 AM
Congrats Don, you just bought the most USA made vehicle.  About 90% of that car is made right here in USA.  It can be done with all technologies if the effort is made and its thought out.
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 23, 2022, 03:10:37 PM
Congrats Don, you just bought the most USA made vehicle.  About 90% of that car is made right here in USA.  It can be done with all technologies if the effort is made and its thought out.
Yeah but Exxon has a higher ESG score…..facepalm


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Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on August 23, 2022, 05:22:18 PM
When do we see the metal fab front and rear bumpers, extra batteries rack, light bar and such?

What’s the protocol for a spare tire/wheel combo?

Regardless of the power plant it’s a great looking color! 
Burnout video?


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Most of that, I'd say you'll have a long wait to see...(Read:Never)

But you do know this thing has a "Drift" mode built in, right?

This car is no joke. On a hot day at any altitude, it will generate 11.50 quarter mile times all day long (As long as ther is a socket available to plug into ;-)
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on August 23, 2022, 05:23:58 PM
Congrats Don, you just bought the most USA made vehicle.  About 90% of that car is made right here in USA.  It can be done with all technologies if the effort is made and its thought out.
I think this man is so far ahead of the curve

The more I learn about this, the more I think that SpaceX has a large share and great influence in the company

But, now that I know the product more intimately...I REALLY WANT a model S (plaid) but any Model S would do...
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on August 24, 2022, 11:55:19 AM
The Tesla factory optioned sunscreens fit very well. Supposed to cut the sun by 64%

I look at them as huge cost savings over the uber expensive ceramic window tint film that is going on next week. Saved me more than a couple hundred.
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on August 24, 2022, 11:57:56 AM
The factory-optioned floor mats were made by weather tech. They also fit very well. These are so much better than the weather tech mats in my Chevy truck. These look like a precision fit and maintain some "rubbery" feel to them.
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on August 24, 2022, 12:04:35 PM
I charged the car for the first time in my garage last night. It didn't need much, maybe 20% to top off.

The connectors are not simply wires and prongs. There is a Bluetooth aspect to them and some intelligence.

A charging cable, Intelligent?

Ya, I'd have thought so too.

But based on the wall outlet, (I think) the car limits input amperage. I noticed that when I pull into a supercharger station, I can suck down a lightning bolt, when I attached my cable, I noticed it imposed a max of 32-amp load. I am not able to toggle it up to the 50 amps I would prefer.

I did have to tell it when the "Off-peak" electricity occurred, and it automatically selected that time to charge. After 2200, my sparkage falls to half price.

Pardon my messy garage, please. It's a "working" garage.
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2022, 09:45:25 AM
Learning more and more about the car.
It's great! Nothing not to love about this thing...Especially when it picks up all routine transportation duties that I used to do with the gas-suckin' Suburban or expensive Duramax.
I feel I have a perfect combination of vehicles now.
The Duramax truck with its soon-to-be-installed new interior and recent updates is a forever truck that will work hard for years and years to come. She has a nice low mileage Caddy capable of a good capacity and nearly 30 mpg. And finally, the TM3P for all the driving around chores and trips reduces the cost of buying fuel to nearly zero. That leaves the poor Suburban on the outs. It no longer serves any purpose at all.

The TM3P car has its first big test Saturday. I planned a weekend getaway trip with Kat. The destination is a pretty good distance from any superchargers, so we'll just have to see.
I am employing the sink or swim learning technique. I figure the best way to see if all this is truly going to work, is to just get out there and start doing it.

So, if you don't hear from me...Those of you who spend the most time on here, form a committee and take over ownership. Raise a cup of quoffee to me once in a while, was good knowing all of you! ;-)
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: cj7ox on August 25, 2022, 02:02:40 PM
The TM3P car has its first big test Saturday. I planned a weekend getaway trip with Kat. The destination is a pretty good distance from any superchargers, so we'll just have to see.
I am employing the sink or swim learning technique. I figure the best way to see if all this is truly going to work, is to just get out there and start doing it.

Sounds to me like you're planning the old "honey, we're outta gas" trick on a cruise night so you have an excuse to "park". LOL!
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2022, 04:06:51 PM
The TM3P car has its first big test Saturday. I planned a weekend getaway trip with Kat. The destination is a pretty good distance from any superchargers, so we'll just have to see.
I am employing the sink or swim learning technique. I figure the best way to see if all this is truly going to work, is to just get out there and start doing it.

Sounds to me like you're planning the old "honey, we're outta gas" trick on a cruise night so you have an excuse to "park". LOL!
Maybe 15 years ago!

I just finished applying that ceramic waterproofing wax stuff. It definitely repels water with a vengeance!

I also ordered a cool screen protector of tempered glass that is matt finished and glare resistant

I also ordered an aftermarket screen pivot. The factory model 3 screen is fixed. The pivot allows 30 degrees of left-right travel and 15 degrees up and down. It also mounts the screen about an inch or so lower to open up your view to the right. Looked like a cool option so I ordered it.
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Bigdave_185 on August 25, 2022, 09:47:07 PM
What ceramic paint did you apply?


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Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: wyorunner on August 26, 2022, 01:48:59 AM
What ceramic paint did you apply?


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I would like to know this as well!
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: oklawall on August 26, 2022, 06:52:24 AM
What ceramic paint did you apply?


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Well with no fuel costs in this think wouldn't it better if he drove around the country and applied it to all of our vehicles. That way we could give a in depth evaluation of the product?

Okay I will go wait i  the I'm fired room

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Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 26, 2022, 07:09:08 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/electrek.co/2016/09/06/aaa-ev-emergency-charging-truck/amp/


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Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on August 26, 2022, 09:52:45 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/electrek.co/2016/09/06/aaa-ev-emergency-charging-truck/amp/


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Talk about raining on a parade!

People: Some observations. People on average are downright stupid. If breathing was something we had to think about we'd have thousands dying every day from forgetting to breathe.

Then we take this herd and we introduce them to a totally new concept, electric cars. No real understanding, just the sales pitch. "Plug it in for a few minutes then drive for free around town."

For most of the Prius/chevy volt crowd, I wonder how much thought went into the decision to buy, then operate the vehicle. First of all, you have a car with only a 70-mile range. So, I'd bet those owners account for the majority of the statistics.

Next, until recently, charging stations have been sparser. Add to that, I doubt the vehicle was loaded with a routinely updated database showing the location of new charging stations. I wonder if other cars have had anything like Tesla's which keep you well informed about your state of charge, and availability of nearby chargers, or will automatically navigate you directly to one.

People are the problem with vehicles running out of electricity. The same with guns. People make them go off, and kill innocents, the guns have nothing to do with it.

How about voters? Do they have to be smart? Do they have to understand the complexity of their government of the fundamentals of democracy? I'd just point to their latest presidential pick as evidence that although citizens are armed with the vote, they just created a massive negligent discharge.

There are always going to be people who haven't planned their route or even thought about it getting stranded. The same goes for gas-powered vehicles. It's people causing the statistics, and people are not getting any smarter.
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on August 26, 2022, 09:55:48 AM
What ceramic paint did you apply?


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What ceramic paint did you apply?


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Came in a green spray bottle. I used it all on the TM3P and my Kawasaki, then pitched it. I want to say it was Meguires as I have used their stuff for 50 years
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Bigdave_185 on August 26, 2022, 10:58:22 AM
That green spray bottle look like this and smell great?

Meguiar's G200532SP Hybrid Ceramic Detailer, 32 oz https://a.co/d/byJFw7S

It’s a great touch up product!!! Love that and the blue bottle
I’ll suggest this for a more long term from them
Iv done three vehicles and it’s lasted and works better then the quick stuff. 

Meguiar's G210300 Hybrid Paint Coating, Kit https://a.co/d/5NYKvLJ

It’s easy to apply and the clear coat protection is really good for the cost of the product. 
One kit has done a Harley, and that Escalade. Did the Buick with the other and dropped the can and broke the stupid tip so I couldn’t get it out!


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Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on August 26, 2022, 11:33:31 AM
That green spray bottle look like this and smell great?

Meguiar's G200532SP Hybrid Ceramic Detailer, 32 oz https://a.co/d/byJFw7S

It’s a great touch up product!!! Love that and the blue bottle
I’ll suggest this for a more long term from them
Iv done three vehicles and it’s lasted and works better then the quick stuff. 

Meguiar's G210300 Hybrid Paint Coating, Kit https://a.co/d/5NYKvLJ

It’s easy to apply and the clear coat protection is really good for the cost of the product. 
One kit has done a Harley, and that Escalade. Did the Buick with the other and dropped the can and broke the stupid tip so I couldn’t get it out!


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Smelled great...Yep, that's it!

I'll pick up the other stuff and get to it
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: wilsonphil on August 26, 2022, 04:48:07 PM
I am sure you have already noticed how fast the car slows down on its own.  One thing you should be ready for is tire wear, if you push it hard you will only get about 30K out of a set.  If your wife drives 60K.
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on August 26, 2022, 05:23:23 PM
I am sure you have already noticed how fast the car slows down on its own.  One thing you should be ready for is tire wear, if you push it hard you will only get about 30K out of a set.  If your wife drives 60K.
I don't drive hard at all
I have only floored my supercharged Suburban a half dozen times...Ever!

I gave mine the juice once alone and twice with the kiddo to demo and never with anyone else. I used to drive like that, but no more
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 27, 2022, 01:12:38 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/electrek.co/2016/09/06/aaa-ev-emergency-charging-truck/amp/


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Talk about raining on a parade!

People: Some observations. People on average are downright stupid. If breathing was something we had to think about we'd have thousands dying every day from forgetting to breathe.

Then we take this herd and we introduce them to a totally new concept, electric cars. No real understanding, just the sales pitch. "Plug it in for a few minutes then drive for free around town."

For most of the Prius/chevy volt crowd, I wonder how much thought went into the decision to buy, then operate the vehicle. First of all, you have a car with only a 70-mile range. So, I'd bet those owners account for the majority of the statistics.

Next, until recently, charging stations have been sparser. Add to that, I doubt the vehicle was loaded with a routinely updated database showing the location of new charging stations. I wonder if other cars have had anything like Tesla's which keep you well informed about your state of charge, and availability of nearby chargers, or will automatically navigate you directly to one.

People are the problem with vehicles running out of electricity. The same with guns. People make them go off, and kill innocents, the guns have nothing to do with it.

How about voters? Do they have to be smart? Do they have to understand the complexity of their government of the fundamentals of democracy? I'd just point to their latest presidential pick as evidence that although citizens are armed with the vote, they just created a massive negligent discharge.

There are always going to be people who haven't planned their route or even thought about it getting stranded. The same goes for gas-powered vehicles. It's people causing the statistics, and people are not getting any smarter.
Not the intention. You said you,we’re taking a trip off the beaten supercharger path. Get AAA and in the worst case they,will bring you a charge.


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Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on August 27, 2022, 10:34:29 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/electrek.co/2016/09/06/aaa-ev-emergency-charging-truck/amp/


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Talk about raining on a parade!

People: Some observations. People on average are downright stupid. If breathing was something we had to think about we'd have thousands dying every day from forgetting to breathe.

Then we take this herd and we introduce them to a totally new concept, electric cars. No real understanding, just the sales pitch. "Plug it in for a few minutes then drive for free around town."

For most of the Prius/chevy volt crowd, I wonder how much thought went into the decision to buy, then operate the vehicle. First of all, you have a car with only a 70-mile range. So, I'd bet those owners account for the majority of the statistics.

Next, until recently, charging stations have been sparser. Add to that, I doubt the vehicle was loaded with a routinely updated database showing the location of new charging stations. I wonder if other cars have had anything like Tesla's which keep you well informed about your state of charge, and availability of nearby chargers, or will automatically navigate you directly to one.

People are the problem with vehicles running out of electricity. The same with guns. People make them go off, and kill innocents, the guns have nothing to do with it.

How about voters? Do they have to be smart? Do they have to understand the complexity of their government of the fundamentals of democracy? I'd just point to their latest presidential pick as evidence that although citizens are armed with the vote, they just created a massive negligent discharge.

There are always going to be people who haven't planned their route or even thought about it getting stranded. The same goes for gas-powered vehicles. It's people causing the statistics, and people are not getting any smarter.
Not the intention. You said you,we’re taking a trip off the beaten supercharger path. Get AAA and in the worst case they,will bring you a charge.


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OK, understood

BTW, Tesla will do that too, part of the ownership thing...You outta check it out
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on August 27, 2022, 03:25:58 PM
That green spray bottle look like this and smell great?

Meguiar's G200532SP Hybrid Ceramic Detailer, 32 oz https://a.co/d/byJFw7S

It’s a great touch up product!!! Love that and the blue bottle
I’ll suggest this for a more long term from them
Iv done three vehicles and it’s lasted and works better then the quick stuff. 

Meguiar's G210300 Hybrid Paint Coating, Kit https://a.co/d/5NYKvLJ

It’s easy to apply and the clear coat protection is really good for the cost of the product. 
One kit has done a Harley, and that Escalade. Did the Buick with the other and dropped the can and broke the stupid tip so I couldn’t get it out!


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That wax kit is on order.

Question: Who makes a good battery-powered polisher??

Did Dewalt make one? (So I can use my many batteries)
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Bigdave_185 on August 27, 2022, 06:45:10 PM
I had the dewalt and didn’t like it at all.
The battery power units just kill battery’s or you use the monster 60v and it makes the machine out of balance


The Rupes the go to for me. Good Italian machine and will last you your lifetime

Chemicals guys offers some for less but the balance of a good machine in your hand is hard to beat.


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Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: JR on August 27, 2022, 07:11:25 PM
Don, doesn't Tesla use gas powered vehicles for service trucks?

Oh that ring is for towing to a charge station.

Honestly sweet car though, to bad biden took away the "tesla" 7k tax incentive for it (only tesla)
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on August 28, 2022, 08:12:41 PM
Don, doesn't Tesla use gas powered vehicles for service trucks?

Oh that ring is for towing to a charge station.

Honestly sweet car though, to bad biden took away the "tesla" 7k tax incentive for it (only tesla)
Yea...I got zero incentive from the government

THat's good because, again, I take no welfare from the guberment

No electric Tesla trucks as of this month, but give it a chance. Hat man may launch four new vehicles in 23.

The electric semi

An 11 or more passenger van is coming

The tesla electric truck, The cybertruck,

And a model 2 thing that gets pretty small
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: KensAuto on September 05, 2022, 08:36:25 PM
Don, have you seen any of the semi acceleration videos? Friggin nuts seeing a loaded truck move that fast from a stop.

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Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on September 05, 2022, 09:09:24 PM
Don, have you seen any of the semi acceleration videos? Friggin nuts seeing a loaded truck move that fast from a stop.

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I have not

But

I do (now) understand the real difference between an engine that needs to increase RPM to achieve max power and one that is always at max power.

The torque numbers of even these smaller EV cars rival what we are used to in 1-ton-built diesel. I can't imagine what a larger electric motor or a couple of them could do.

I mean if you think about it, unsophisticated electric motors with a 1950's design (Not induction motors) move trains with 200 cars weighing 50 tons each with ease. Easy to see how a modest electric motor could get a 90K semi up to speed PDQ
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on September 05, 2022, 09:22:53 PM
So let's do some cipherin'

If our modern-day diesel engine makes 1000 ft lbs. of torque at the crankshaft...

And we run that through a transmission with a 4:1 low gear we could produce 4,000 ft lbs., minus about 20% driveline it yields 3,200 at the trans output.

Then we take that 3,200 lbs. and multiply it times our 4:1 rear axle ratio, we could have 12,800 ft lbs. at the axle driving the wheel/tire.

But that would only exist for a very short 0-maybe 15 mph, then we have to upshift. Bu the time we get to our 1:1 ratio we have 3,200 total available at the axle.

But if you look at the EV, and I have previously shown the model 3 I drive produces around 7,300 ft lbs. at the axle you start to see why these EV's are so fast. The EV only has the first gear. No matter if you are at 1 mph or 60, you always get the full 7,300 ft lbs torque at the axle.

There is no way an IC engine weighing under 20,000 lbs. will make that much power at driving speeds, its just not physically possible. And if you had something on 100 psi boost to make that much power, how much fuel would it be using and how long would it last? I have a 120,000 mile or 8 year warranty on my drivetrain, even if I use it wide open all the time.
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 05, 2022, 10:58:18 PM
https://youtu.be/Foy2FX_g7GU

https://youtu.be/5RRmepp7i5g


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Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: JR on September 05, 2022, 11:47:18 PM
I agree that EV have a place. But a diesel or gas truck can make that torque as long as it has fuel. In fact, if I could buy a EV truck that will do what the Dmax does for a fair price I could charges anywhere, I'm there!

Motors (trains use way better motors than they did 50years ago) need the amperage to make that torque, and voltage drops pretty quick if you keep it up. AC motors (brushless as we know them now) are way more eff than DC and the materials are just getting better, like batteries.

My models helis use a govenor to do this and I have been involved with testing and setups for years. Lithiums opened a new door and now it is just plain stupid.
I believe the first lithium heli around 20 years ago in San Diego. Mainstay at that time was nicads and just getting to nickle metal hydrid. 3 series, 4 parralel setup.

EV will become mainstream on its own when you can fast charge (like the military does for 1 time use items) or swap battery packs, however many there are.
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on September 06, 2022, 09:55:58 AM
That Tesla semi is impressive.

I think JR has it right. At this point with no real commercial charging nexus in place, it will be slow out of the sales gate (Maybe).

But I'll bet some savvy trucking firms will set up regular point-to-point routes with these trucks and immediately start becoming more profitable. As long as it makes money the guberment will find electricity simply because they can tax a positive cash flow operation. You may not have juice for the toaster in the morning, but these trucks will continue to move.

Now I want to see an electric main battle tank! That will be a test to see just how strong these propulsion units are.
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: cj7ox on September 06, 2022, 10:36:29 AM
That Tesla semi is impressive.

I think JR has it right. At this point with no real commercial charging nexus in place, it will be slow out of the sales gate (Maybe).

But I'll bet some savvy trucking firms will set up regular point-to-point routes with these trucks and immediately start becoming more profitable. As long as it makes money the guberment will find electricity simply because they can tax a positive cash flow operation. You may not have juice for the toaster in the morning, but these trucks will continue to move.

Now I want to see an electric main battle tank! That will be a test to see just how strong these propulsion units are.

The Army explored this for the Next Gen MBT. Industry consensus was they couldn't make a battery pack big enough to provide the duration needed for combat. At least with current/emerging technology.
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on September 06, 2022, 10:43:59 AM
That Tesla semi is impressive.

I think JR has it right. At this point with no real commercial charging nexus in place, it will be slow out of the sales gate (Maybe).

But I'll bet some savvy trucking firms will set up regular point-to-point routes with these trucks and immediately start becoming more profitable. As long as it makes money the guberment will find electricity simply because they can tax a positive cash flow operation. You may not have juice for the toaster in the morning, but these trucks will continue to move.

Now I want to see an electric main battle tank! That will be a test to see just how strong these propulsion units are.

The Army explored this for the Next Gen MBT. Industry consensus was they couldn't make a battery pack big enough to provide the duration needed for combat. At least with current/emerging technology.
How recently, Sean?
With this LFP battery technology, battery storage capacity has taken a big leap forward, and there are fewer cells, and they don't catch fire...

It will be a while, but to get an MBT that does not need a convoy of fuel tankers following it would be a nice thing. Just think about it, while you're out killing T-90's on a nice sunday afternoon, you are not harming the atmosphere with all those nasty exhaust emissions...Nice thought
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: cj7ox on September 06, 2022, 03:15:37 PM
Within the last year or so. Problem is, how long would it take to charge? Kinda hard (I think) to service station ressupply a recharge in the same amount of time as we currently refuel. Having a recharge vehicle for every tank would increase our log chains. We'll still need fuel for the smoke generators, too. I think the best bet would be to go to a diesel hybrid electric. BAE is testing that on a Bradley right now. We'll see how it goes.
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: JR on September 06, 2022, 05:23:12 PM
I think the EV trucks are going to be point to point also, heard that a few times, maybe even driverless.

As hot as it is here, they actually ran a few regular NG power plants to help with the consumption. I thought NG was clean anyway?
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on September 09, 2022, 09:22:03 PM
Windows are all tinted now

I selected the services of Sunshield window tinting. They are a father/son team who really do a great job at what I consider a very fair price.
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on September 09, 2022, 09:29:04 PM
I apologize for the orientation issues; I was using the iPhone 13 again and like every other time I use it or other Apple products there is software incompatibility issues from the people who are supposed to have ironed all that out.

They applied a total of nine sections of tint to pretty much all of the windows in the vehicle. Four side glass windows in the doors, two wing window wedges, the rear glass, the windshield, and the sunroof panel

I chose 70% for the windshield, 20% for the side and back glass, and I want to say either 35% or 50% for the sunroof.

All windows were covered with ceramic except for the glass roof. Ryan, the son, cautioned against using ceramic there because the product does not reject heat, but stores it or something like that. He said a bulletin he read cautioned them against applying the heat absorbent ceramic to the roof panel since the added heat was thought to soften the bonding material used to hold that glass panel in place. So, for that panel alone, we selected a non-ceramic product.
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on September 09, 2022, 09:30:23 PM
Some in-progress pics of the install that took the better of 90 minutes
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on September 09, 2022, 09:32:03 PM
Their shop is modern, clean and they worked very well together. I am pleased and scheduled the D-Max truck for a total re-do this coming Monday
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on September 09, 2022, 09:40:17 PM
With respect to the learning curve of the car, it seems it is getting a bit more accurate with the number of miles I just drove versus the predicted miles. I'd have to say today the error is inside 20%, whereas two days ago I was at a calculated 27%.

Two days ago, I used the go pedal a little, whereas today I just clicked on the autopilot every time I pulled onto the expressway. I let it do its thing. It's kind of cool. When you first pull onto the "ON" ramp if you engage the autopilot, It will accelerate all by itself and impose a speed limit of posted + 5 mph. It will merge into traffic and maintain your desired or the factory preselected interval, which is pretty close for my liking. I noticed that if traffic slows to a stop, the car will do the same, and then later when it starts moving the car will stay right there right up to 75mph. It's great and allows you to fuss with other stuff while the car motors along. So far, I have not run over any child mannequins.
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 10, 2022, 01:00:10 AM
How do you like the mid day sun view looking out the car?

Tonight was my first drive In the truck home from a few drinks and the viz looking out at night is very good considering what previous tints did.  I’m sold on the product

I was also told that chips in windshields can cause issues with ceramic tint as well. Similar to the roof like they explained.   Something about trapping heat and the expansion of the glass with a chip in the glass can cause it to break


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Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on September 10, 2022, 09:26:44 PM
How do you like the mid day sun view looking out the car?

Tonight was my first drive In the truck home from a few drinks and the viz looking out at night is very good considering what previous tints did.  I’m sold on the product

I was also told that chips in windshields can cause issues with ceramic tint as well. Similar to the roof like they explained.   Something about trapping heat and the expansion of the glass with a chip in the glass can cause it to break


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I have to say, I like the 20% more than the 35% I have on my Chevy truck. All in all, and so far, I like it a lot.

I'm all parked in my garage so I can't get the car out to get some daylight pics...family is visiting. I will shoot it in the daylight and give some feedback regarding heat rejection.
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: stlaser on September 10, 2022, 11:45:22 PM
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Sorry, not sorry…..


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Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 11, 2022, 12:49:54 AM
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Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 11, 2022, 09:33:46 AM
That auto pilot is pretty cool. I really like the way the display shows you the vehicles 360 degrees around you.

Tesla makes a perfect 2nd or third vehicle.  It’s like having a 1911 to go a long with your glock, AR and 870.  Won’t stake your life on it but its a great addition to the stable…


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Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on September 11, 2022, 10:49:31 AM
That auto pilot is pretty cool. I really like the way the display shows you the vehicles 360 degrees around you.

Tesla makes a perfect 2nd or third vehicle.  It’s like having a 1911 to go a long with your glock, AR and 870.  Won’t stake your life on it but its a great addition to the stable…


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Yea, that's kind of how I think about them too
Never give up the truck or stop relying on it but while it's parked at the ready, I drive all over for almost free!
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on September 11, 2022, 10:50:38 AM
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Are those the old "F" cells they are using for wheels?
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 11, 2022, 06:57:53 PM
That auto pilot is pretty cool. I really like the way the display shows you the vehicles 360 degrees around you.

Tesla makes a perfect 2nd or third vehicle.  It’s like having a 1911 to go a long with your glock, AR and 870.  Won’t stake your life on it but its a great addition to the stable…


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Doesn’t your sissy truck have that option on it?
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Mine does all kinds of views and when hooked to a trailer turn signal on the camera shows me the view down the truck and trailer

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Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: JR on September 11, 2022, 07:14:14 PM
I just look out the window,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on September 11, 2022, 07:18:25 PM
I just look out the window,,,,,,,,,,,
I'm like him^^^^...The rear view camera quit in 2014, I think. Got really good with the mirrors.
They still have the electric remote tilt...Does that count?
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: KensAuto on September 11, 2022, 08:23:51 PM
That auto pilot is pretty cool. I really like the way the display shows you the vehicles 360 degrees around you.

Tesla makes a perfect 2nd or third vehicle.  It’s like having a 1911 to go a long with your glock, AR and 870.  Won’t stake your life on it but its a great addition to the stable…


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Hey now, I've never had a 1911 catch

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Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 11, 2022, 09:13:04 PM
I just look out the window,,,,,,,,,,,
I’m most excited about towing the toy hauler, the previous mirrors didn’t view past the front corner of the trailer so I’m hoping this helps with the bling spots


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Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 11, 2022, 09:46:34 PM
Dave I was referring to while mobile the display of the Tesla shows an illustration of your vehicle and the all the vehicles in the lanes around you in front and behind.

My 2018 does not have the 360 camera

 But like jr I love to drive my 2001 precisely because no cameras or sensors and I can still back it to within 12 inches of the car behind.

Ken, fair point.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/insideevs.com/news/350179/video-tesla-model-3-screen-visualizations/amp/


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Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 11, 2022, 09:59:29 PM
I can turn on the 360 camera wheel driving I think.

I’m not opposed to using my mirrors, and I do all day with 50’ of trailer

I still think that technology is pretty cool


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Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: stlaser on September 15, 2022, 09:45:20 AM
On the bright side, your president is helping your cause….

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/biden-announce-900-million-ev-charging-funding
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on September 15, 2022, 09:58:27 AM
On the bright side, your president is helping your cause….

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/biden-announce-900-million-ev-charging-funding
First, He is your president too

Sadly, he is all of we real citizen's president...albeit we are ashamed of him

Secondly, HORRAY! Build dem chargin' stations! I am about to take a vacation where I expect my "Fuel costs to be sub $100, and possibly, sub $50!

With just the short time I have owned this Tesla, and watching Duane who now only pulls the truck when he needs it...I am going to sell our 2022 Cadilliac and order a 2023 Tesla model Y! (In red)
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: stlaser on September 15, 2022, 10:28:48 AM
Technically, speaking to be president you have to win a majority of electoral votes. I’d question if that in fact actually happened.
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on September 15, 2022, 10:30:42 AM
Technically, speaking to be president you have to win a majority of electoral votes. I’d question if that in fact actually happened.
We all question that alleged fact
Which
is
why
I have stated in the past
that
the
United States
has
already been overthrown
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: stlaser on September 16, 2022, 08:18:13 AM
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Good info for living in the tuck, I’ll just leave this here


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Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on September 16, 2022, 10:19:44 AM
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Good info for living in the tuck, I’ll just leave this here


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Hey, if there's a home with a 110VAC outlet, there's a place to charge your car...

Secondly...What kind of ammunition are those numbskulls using that won't even penetrate a stop sign? Based on that observation, I can conclude that sign isn't located in any rural area. Probably a suburb of Chi-town or Detroit, in which case, you're right. You won't want to charge your car there!
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: dave945 on September 16, 2022, 02:24:02 PM
The bullets are obeying the sign, that’s why they don’t penetrate. No means no, STOP means stop.


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Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 16, 2022, 03:16:14 PM
Zoom in. Plenty went through.


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Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on October 12, 2022, 09:05:09 PM
I am learning more and more about the car as the number of daily drives continue

Latest lessons:

1. Do not overcharge! The batteries have a "daily commute range" and a "trip range." Tesla sent me a text that said I was charging too much and I was charging at 95%. So I changed my method. I now charge up to 88% (266 miles) and I don't charge every day. I like to get the battery pack down to around 100 miles remaining if possible

2. The car seems to learn. Whereas when it was first delivered it would eat up something like 10 miles on a four-mile drive, the range was, in my view, not reliable. That is changing. It often now predicts exactly what I am driving. That or it is close

4. I read and am believing a good planning number is 80%. Whatever your miles remaining says, multiply that by .8 and that number is a good planning figure. In the spirit of 20min fuel remaining in some of my helicopters of bygone days, I am subtracting 10% from what I calculate for a reserve and using what remains to the template on any trip I plan to make. That is working quite well.

5. Duane is pissing off everyone. He races everything and beats them all badly. He is getting quite a bit of hate because of it.

6. Today I pulled onto the highway from an on-ramp and lit it up to arrive almost beside a new C8. I thought, "well, here we go." But that guy decelerated and then very obviously pulled in behind me and followed me to my exit. (He had probably been beaten all up by Duane earlier!!!!!!)

7. Continues to be a remarkable car. Leaps and bounds better than anything I have ever owned

8. Oh, and Tesla has updated mine via the home Wi-Fi several times since I brought it home. Kinda cool, unless they are gathering information on me... :-(
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: JR on October 12, 2022, 09:16:10 PM
I understand cycling batteries good for them and not leaving fully charged all the time. But just like my fossil rigs, I get nervous with a 1/4 tank left. I like to have a lets get out of the area reserve at all times! 100 miles may do it, but then you have to charge?
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on October 12, 2022, 09:37:04 PM
I understand cycling batteries good for them and not leaving fully charged all the time. But just like my fossil rigs, I get nervous with a 1/4 tank left. I like to have a lets get out of the area reserve at all times! 100 miles may do it, but then you have to charge?
Kind of my thinking as well. I'll run it down on day 1 to say 200 miles, then arrive home end of day two with 100 miles remaining. That's when it goes on the cable to get juiced up again.
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Bob Smith on October 12, 2022, 10:21:19 PM
And when the wife or you want the heater working. How badly does that effect the range?
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: JR on October 12, 2022, 10:23:08 PM
Thinking too it may not be the get out vehicle anyway. You might be stuck in traffic, no charging stations working, etc.

Might be tuff to find gas or fuel, but you can "improvise" there at least.

I spend at least $100 average on fuel each week. With an EV I would have to charge during the day when I make solar power, then add the price of the car? My trueup this year is about $1400, so thats about a $125 month elec bill, was around $3-400.

Is the heater electric or does it use the battery/motor cooling fluid? Obviously the AC is electric.
Title: Re: 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Post by: Flyin6 on October 13, 2022, 12:19:53 PM
And when the wife or you want the heater working. How badly does that effect the range?
Surprisingly, not bad at all. (But I have not owned it over a cold spell yet). I would have thought it would make a bunch of difference, but it doesn't. The car has a heat pump but has additional heating as well. All summer long I have run the AC and it doesn't matter much. How do I know? Because, for example, I'll drop her by the door of the supermarket, then park for 30 minutes while she shops. I'll run the AC the whole time and I'll only be down 1-mile or maybe 2 at the most in range. I left the driver's seat heater on once for hours and it only reduced the miles available by a couple. I guess it's because of the massive amount of charge the battery has already.
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