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GENERAL TOPICS => Coffee Induced Early Morning Rant => Topic started by: Nate on August 28, 2018, 09:33:52 AM

Title: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on August 28, 2018, 09:33:52 AM
I thought at one point we had an actual CIEMR thread and not just a section....too many pages to look thru at the moment, so ill start a new one.

Lets use this thread to get whatever it is thats bothering us, or if there is something we just need to get off our chest out.

We can then move on with a happier mind set......   :knucklehead:   :beercheers:

If this takes off and there is a lot of participation, ill make it a sticky for easy access?
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on August 28, 2018, 09:46:53 AM
So my wonderful lady and I had a trip planned to go do a tour of the capital building in D.C. this week. 

But because of the events surrounding the passing of a once honorable service member, who became a traitor, had his records sealed, and then went on to make people believe that he was for the service members benefit.  Our tour has been canceled. 

In place of our tour of this nations public house, all of these pompous oxygen thieves have decided to lay this guy in state so they have a reason to congregate and fellate each other and waste more of our tax dollars doing nothing of value.

Gusss the Smithsonian will get my business as well as my paying respect to real american heros at arlington national cemetery.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: stlaser on August 28, 2018, 11:02:53 AM
Nate, when I was a kid the FBI tour was pretty interesting ( I recall the gun collection). The other one that stood out to me then was the Mint. However, as an adult I realize it is just worthless TP at some point...... :facepalm:
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on August 28, 2018, 07:24:04 PM
Oh we got some things already planned, it was more of me just being P!$$€D off that they are making me readjust my time line for oxygen thieves
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on August 30, 2018, 10:36:34 AM
The level of intelligence here in the outlying D.C. area is extremely high......

The following event just occured :facepalm:

I go down to the beverage counter here in my hotel and ask the very polite lady for a virgin bloody mary (time was 0930),

she gives me a very odd look, as though i just committed some sort of an egregious crime,  she then responds to me in her barley understandable/broken engrish..."no sell alcohol untill 10am"

I gave her a smile, a chuckle and asked her if a virgin bloody mary was considered an alcoholic beverage here in MD.

She then give me a puzzled look and says "i no understand?"

I asked her if there was a manager around, because i wished to speak with them,

She holds up her index finger as to say one moment and walks out from behind the beverage counter and disappears somewhere around the corner,  about 1.5 minutes later she returns with an older very squat lady that speaks about as perfect engrish as the orignal lady,

Well this second lady asked me if i was wanting a bloody mary,

I said to her that i would like a virgin bloody mary if that was possible,

The second lady got this huge look of suprise and understanding on her face and says to the first lady in their perfect engrish that she can make me one,

Well the first lady says to the second lady "i no understand how to make"

The second lady says to the first lady "just like drink but NO alcohol"

The first lady then gets the huge look of suprise and understanding on her face and says i understand, and commenced to make the beverage that i asked for.

Well during the making of asked for beverage, the first lady proceeds to not cap the mixing shaker completely and throws virgin bloody mary all over herself, the bar, the back wall......

It litterally took every ounce of will power i had to not bust out in complete laughter at this......

 :facepalm: :facepalm:




Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: KensAuto on August 31, 2018, 12:15:12 AM
Nah that's perfectly normal Nate. There's not to many people that know what a virgin is now days.

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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: cudakidd53 on August 31, 2018, 07:24:39 AM
ROFLMAO!
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: EL TATE on August 31, 2018, 10:02:21 AM
OK I'll play. Friday before last the wife takes the Yukon to Jiffy lube for an oil change. 4 days later, my oil pressure drops to nil, and only comes up under acceleration. she makes it home, but is starting to get lifter clack. Oil level is good, but there's black oil dripping from the filter, so I'm thinking they didn't change the filter out and it's clogged/collapsed, double gasketed and sucking air, any number of things that would be throwing off oil pressure. we live 5 min away so she drives it in yesterday and they send her down the street to their authorized repair facility, (a shop I sell parts to) and they tell her this is the 2nd rig from them in 2 weeks with the same issues and the motor will likely have damage. For an 04 Yukon Denali 6.0L w/ 198K on it, a failed sensor or even oil pump is not outside the realm of possibility, but prior to the oil change 40psi on startup and 35 avg after coming to temp consistent as the rising sun, then 4 days later zero? C'mon man I was born at night but not last night. Of course J.L. is preemptively denying any fault and tried to pin it on my wife by telling her she did the damage for driving after the light came on, but she traveled a very short distance and didn't drive it at all until they told her to bring it in as it was "most likely just a sensor". Course, this is all via text message while I'm cooking at the pub last night...
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Bigdave_185 on August 31, 2018, 03:22:03 PM
Keep us posted on this.  Had a similar not as catastrophic.  They broke the dip stick on my daughters 99 Mazda.  Said it was old and she needsd go buy a new one for 20 bucks.  I called and raised hell.  Called the office of that crap place and raised more hell.  She got full credit of oil change and a extra oil change later. Yeah right!! 


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: stlaser on August 31, 2018, 03:45:44 PM
I’m not fond of oil change places, either I do it or the dealer. Only time dealer does it is when it’s under a service package.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: EL TATE on August 31, 2018, 04:27:18 PM
Yeah, not having a garage has been trying lately...
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: stlaser on August 31, 2018, 04:29:18 PM
Yeah, not having a garage has been trying lately...

Is there a plan for that? As capable as you are & thinking long term surely there were considerations when you guys purchased that beautiful view?
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: EL TATE on August 31, 2018, 04:45:54 PM
Yeah, not having a garage has been trying lately...

Is there a plan for that? As capable as you are & thinking long term surely there were considerations when you guys purchased that beautiful view?

We were supposed to have had remodeled the boat house/enclosed carport already into two bedrooms and have been working on the garage but now I'm spending my time serving papers on my former contractor to get my $$ back and maintain the permits I had pending while trying to find another contractor to fill in... 1st pic shows where the roof line will carry to the right with scissor trusses converting the long flat roof to the additional bedrooms. second pic shows the space along side the fence to the fog line that we own the rights too where the garage would go.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Bob Smith on August 31, 2018, 04:49:39 PM
Tate, you guys up there don't have too much for setback rules I take it.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: stlaser on August 31, 2018, 04:54:53 PM
Sorry to hear about contractor woes. Still love that view you all have!
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: EL TATE on August 31, 2018, 05:23:48 PM
Tate, you guys up there don't have too much for setback rules I take it.

Grandfathered in on the setback from the bulkhead, and the previous owners bought back the easement from the county on the road when parking became scarce. a few feet off the fog line, and I'm still 15' off the crown of the road and would fit a big enough garage for the Yukon or the boat and possibly a little extra mother in law apartment up above. height restrictions are 35" and under for us.

But first I need a running truck, and my contractor money back. baby steps
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Bob Smith on August 31, 2018, 05:41:23 PM
understand the baby steps, everything takes time. Just looks from the photo that you are very close to neighbors with buildings.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: KensAuto on August 31, 2018, 07:35:06 PM
Just think of quick lube places as shops that hire kids, that were fired from their grass cutting jobs.
Low talent, low wage, below average IQ. That's the only way the shop can keep oil changes so cheap, and still be profitable... that plus volume=below average quality, even on something so basic.

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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on September 03, 2018, 06:50:00 PM
I am glad to be away from that cesspool!  some of the historic sites were pretty cool as well as the sites that pay tribute, but all in all that place is one that I will never go back to willingly ever again!
Title: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 06, 2018, 11:34:18 PM
I wanna play,

So I wouldn’t say I am a genius but I do know a pretty good amount of crap about a lot of useful crap.   

Tonight I had an argument with a 69 year old lady about a toro sprinkler 570z and the screw on the top and what it is used for

Holley hell if that didn’t turn into an argument.   I have installed, removed, smashed, glued, lost, found, unearthed, Buried so many of these thing in my life I am sure I could write the instruction manual. Be it not very complicated. 

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The screw is a rate of flow adjustment.  It might turn when you adjust the pattern but it is not meant to be the pattern adjustment!!!! If you open the pattern larger you need more flow to achieve the distance of coverage.   Trying to explain that to a woman, who thinks the only smart person to walk this earth was my deceased father (20 years ago) and that the damn apple didn’t fall from his tree is beyond me.   So yelling ensued, profanity flying.  My kids screaming for waffles.    I lost it and she turned from ready to fight into the victim faster than I could blink.   It was my fault, my problem, I did it....... when she approached me and asked what was wrong with it in the first place.   Next time the response will be.  Go call a sprinkler guy, I just don’t know what that is.


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: stlaser on September 06, 2018, 11:59:11 PM
 :popcorn:


Was this your mom?
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 07, 2018, 12:28:43 AM
Um....... no........


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: KensAuto on September 07, 2018, 12:33:19 AM
:popcorn:


Was this your mom?
Don't feel bad, that's what I got from it.

Ex girlfriend?   

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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: stlaser on September 07, 2018, 05:44:58 AM
Um....... no........


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Oh, well sorry. Musta been a good rant because I couldn’t follow along very well!
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 07, 2018, 06:19:46 AM
He lost me at”kids screaming for waffles”....lol


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: stlaser on September 07, 2018, 08:33:46 AM
He lost me at”kids screaming for waffles”....lol


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You did better than I, still trying to figure out what a 69 lady is? What was she standing on her head while talked? Or maybe Dave stood on his head? Or was she born in 69?
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on September 07, 2018, 09:41:05 AM
dave,

remember 2 things:

1. its all about the delivery

2. regardless of what we think they want to hear, its just best to keep it simple. 

in the end, does it really matter who was right or wrong? 

did the sprinkler head get fixed? 



Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 07, 2018, 06:04:00 PM
dave,

remember 2 things:

1. its all about the delivery

2. regardless of what we think they want to hear, its just best to keep it simple. 

in the end, does it really matter who was right or wrong? 

did the sprinkler head get fixed?
That’s the best part, she broke it and asked me what was wrong.  Next time the response will be.  I don’t know.  Call someone who does sprinklers


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Superwhdm on September 07, 2018, 06:50:01 PM
My turn.

Setting up for a job this weekend. We have to take apart a specialty fabric ceiling to replace the 10 yr old lights above it. There are 4 conference rooms in an ultra high finish wealth management firm in Atlanta Ga with tables that range from 5.5’-7’ wide and 7-22’ long. The tables under said ceilings cannot be moved so we must scaffold over them.  The scaffolding company we hired was new to us but available. We showed onsite at 1pm today..as did they. Then their delivery of hardware and parts came but some were too tall, like 10’ tall and of course wouldn’t fin in a space with 8’ ceilings. So...our journey begins. Here is it almost 7pm and we are waiting on a 3rd delivery because everything has been a disaster. The field guys are great but obviously the office needs help. So forget dinner with the fam, my two beautiful girls whom I haven’t seen for a week and some much needed R&R and bourbon. Uhg. This was supposed to only take from 13:00-14:30. RE. Diculous.  I have to be back in the am all day tomorrow and possible Sunday as well.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: cudakidd53 on September 11, 2018, 01:44:07 PM
OK, on Patriots Day, one of the ass clown Socialist Science teachers gets on the PA to lead the school (2100+ High School Students) in the pledge and a moment of silence in honor of the day.  In true revisionist history fashion, said rectal amusement character edited the Pledge, leaving out "Under God" - I REALLY want to stomp the living crap out of the prick!  Suggested that if he can't say the pledge correctly, he stay off the PA and sent a copy of that email to the Superintendent........F-in socialist snowflake bastard.......I HATE SOCIALIST DEMOCRATS.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on September 11, 2018, 02:56:18 PM
Calm down Mike, count, one, two, three...
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: stlaser on September 11, 2018, 03:50:52 PM
Calm down Mike, count, one, two, three...

Then swing and connect..... :tongue:
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: EL TATE on September 11, 2018, 06:13:09 PM
Calm down Mike, count, one, two, three...

Then swing and connect..... :tongue:

 Hey, it works on the range.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: cudakidd53 on September 11, 2018, 11:15:02 PM
Ok, I’m sending myself to bed now after super to think log and hard about what I didn’t do.....
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on September 12, 2018, 01:41:32 AM
Little late for that mike
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: EL TATE on September 12, 2018, 02:01:45 PM
Jiffy Lube re-cap/update

Date of service, 8/17/18.
Date of failure, 8/24/18 w/ 75 miles. (oil pressure sensor starts fluctuating up and down with RPM and setting off warning bells.)
Parked until I could get a look at it sunday when I saw black oil dripping down the side of the filter. Thinking it may be a double gasket scenario they tell her to bring it by on Wed to look at it. halfway there, (less than 6 miles) oil pressure drops to zero and alarms are going off, but she keeps driving because, well, she was told to. they get it on the rack, check the filter and dipstick and send her down the street to their authorized mech. he throws a known good filter on it and has fluctuating pressure issues as before, so we schedule to get it on the rack and drop the oil pan to inspect which JL is already fighting to pay for. He starts with draining the oil and then calls me and sends me these pics. total less than 85 miles and 8 days of active driving since the oil was changed and it looks like used diesel oil... I'm waiting on a call back from the district manager today, and I would say wish me luck, but at this point I should probably add him to the prayer list for hearing damage...
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on September 12, 2018, 03:22:06 PM
Good luck!
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 12, 2018, 04:24:13 PM
I’d keep a sample of that oil and have an analysis done. Might be handy as evidence.


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: EL TATE on September 12, 2018, 04:31:15 PM
My bet is accidentally pumped waste oil in, metal clogged my pickup. I'm not paying a dime until I get confirmation they're going to make it right. until then, I have the pint of garbage oil and my attorney at the ready.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Bob Smith on September 12, 2018, 07:21:29 PM
Good luck to you Tate, hope it doesn't come to that but be ready. Don't give up, that is what they count on....
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on September 13, 2018, 02:18:01 AM
Maybe just get it fixed (need the car right?) and hand them the bill. With what you have in hand it would be a slam dunk in small claims.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: EL TATE on September 13, 2018, 10:27:44 AM
Maybe just get it fixed (need the car right?) and hand them the bill. With what you have in hand it would be a slam dunk in small claims.
Depending on their response today or tomorrow that is probably going to be the plan. Right now, my mechanic friends and the shop it's sitting at think the metal is most likely from the waste oil and likely what clogged up the pickup tube. especially since the day after arriving at the shop he started it in the morning and the ticking was very light and oil pressure was fluctuating again, since gravity likely allowed some of the sludge to fall from the pickup tube screen. all very hopeful things, I know.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on September 13, 2018, 10:32:52 AM
And if they pumped it from a waste tank, think what was sitting at the bottom of that?
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: EL TATE on September 18, 2018, 01:25:57 PM
I’d keep a sample of that oil and have an analysis done. Might be handy as evidence.


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So they are fighting me on this. "Well you know Mr Hudson, that vehicle DOES have a lot of miles on it and when engine components fail there is a lot of fire and metal there that could make the oil look dirty, and the oil pan plug and filter were tight and the oil level was full so I'm failing to see where we are at fault here". Before I let him know what I thought of his assessment, and his assumptions of me as a consumer, and the fact that I have been in the automotive industry for nearly 20 years,  I let him know I would be sending the oil in for analysis. Where do you guys suggest I turn for this? a scant molecule of diesel oil and I would think I could prove my theory of them using waste oil in my Yukon.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on September 18, 2018, 01:42:05 PM
Unless your motor had a major fail they have nothing. You would expect them to try to blame anything but their work.

200K is nothing on motors now, even worn bearing don't get warn in 4 days!

Have it analyzed and get low mile motor dropped in and sue them. If it has diesel or other bearing material in it you are golden!
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on September 18, 2018, 03:02:58 PM
tate, have you spoken with any sort of legal professional about this?
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: EL TATE on September 18, 2018, 04:30:15 PM
tate, have you spoken with any sort of legal professional about this?

Negative. I haven't gone there yet. right now I'm working on getting it off their "authorized mechanic's" lot, since he's unable or unwilling to make a definitive statement either way. (doesn't want to rock the boat and upset his steady work supplier) and my co worker and I are going to try to get the pan dropped and do a real inspection possibly this weekend. I need a vehicle, so I may have to settle with getting it fixed and going after them after the fact because I'm sure a their tactic would be to drag their heels until I go away.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Bob Smith on September 18, 2018, 04:47:44 PM
Tate, could you talk their shop guy into pulling the oil sample instead of you doing it. Hard for them to reject the findings if their contractor pulls the sample and sends it off.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on September 18, 2018, 05:20:41 PM
If it is your vehicle, have it towed to your mech, not "their" mech. Sure their mech wants wants keep going, but if he is just their stooge it could show a pattern.

Look at the bearings, if shot replace the motor. Plus you will have the removed parts to show what the oil did.

Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: stlaser on September 18, 2018, 05:57:39 PM
Sorry, late to the party. Is the motor actually damaged or just the pickup plugged? Or you don’t know yet? Reason I ask is because you can run a motor a bit with no oil, not recommended but you had oil the pressures were just jumping everywhere right?

& Tate, I’ve had a rough week but was just thinking about you (house contractor and now this) and you’re still getting attacked worse than me right now so more prayers coming your way brother!
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: EL TATE on September 18, 2018, 06:01:17 PM
Sorry, late to the party. Is the motor actually damaged or just the pickup plugged? Or you don’t know yet?
I think JR hit it on the head in his earlier post and the pickup is clogged from debris. we'll know hopefully this weekend, but it went from no pressure, and pretty healthy lifter clack, to some oil pressure and barely noticeable tick after 2 days of sitting at the shop. I'm leaning metal is not from my motor and probably still salvageable. we'll drop the pan and mechanically clean the pickup and inspect the o ring as well as run some seafoam and new, known clean oil through it and see what happens.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 18, 2018, 06:19:49 PM
Don’t do any of the work yourself. You reduce the credibility of the findings.

Take it away from their 3rd part stooge and find another shop who knows their stuff.

In the end it’s going to come down to an economic decision on their part. The cost of your motor versus the legal cost to defend.

Find the nastiest bull dog of a consumer lawyer to draft a demand letter once you have it independently analyzed and you have it fixed with the  total cost in hand.

They’ll play ball more than likely as courtroom time is $350-500 hr plus they know they’ll likely lose

Sorry Tate. Wish the news was better


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: stlaser on September 18, 2018, 06:24:21 PM
Sorry, late to the party. Is the motor actually damaged or just the pickup plugged? Or you don’t know yet?
I think JR hit it on the head in his earlier post and the pickup is clogged from debris. we'll know hopefully this weekend, but it went from no pressure, and pretty healthy lifter clack, to some oil pressure and barely noticeable tick after 2 days of sitting at the shop. I'm leaning metal is not from my motor and probably still salvageable. we'll drop the pan and mechanically clean the pickup and inspect the o ring as well as run some seafoam and new, known clean oil through it and see what happens.

Tate, my guess is the motor is ok. Clean it good & have a good mechanic look it over like Charles stated (third party not you, no offense) you made need him in court....
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: EL TATE on September 19, 2018, 10:44:11 AM
Thanks guys, all those suggestions are now in play. I neglected to mention that my co-worker is a ase certified mechanic with his own business licensed and bonded that his father in law manages. He agrees the motor is most likely OK and on paper, he's doing all the work. What I still don't know is who I should send the oil off to for analysis?
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 19, 2018, 11:23:19 AM
I used Polaris Labs but they have since gone to volume only meaning. They have to process like 10 samples.




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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: stlaser on September 19, 2018, 11:41:57 AM
From my old stomping grounds...

https://m.blackstone-labs.com/ContactUs
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: EL TATE on September 19, 2018, 12:02:50 PM
TY gents
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on October 03, 2018, 08:42:57 PM
Samm, i truly hope you do not live in ka-bec. 

For those of you who have never been to Quebec,  i advise you to never go there.

I have been all over this earth, and dealt with many different kinds of people, but the one nationality that is truly a waste of oxygen is the FARKIN FRENCH !!!!!!

And what makes it worse is the fact that the french canadian fluffers think they are just as wee wee as the oxygen thieves from that spineless country across the pond

Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: KensAuto on October 03, 2018, 11:24:38 PM
I can tell you that they seem to like Az in the winter, and I'll leave it at that.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on October 04, 2018, 09:35:05 AM
This is a "What's bothering you" thread, right?

THis bothers me:
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: stlaser on October 04, 2018, 09:59:05 AM
The reality is those on the left want a war & the first shots may have already been fired, time will tell. Those on the right are not awake to this fact and sitting here in disbelief of the circus acts those on the left are performing daily.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 04, 2018, 11:23:12 AM
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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 04, 2018, 06:22:14 PM
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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: stlaser on October 04, 2018, 06:35:23 PM
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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 05, 2018, 10:55:06 AM
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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on October 05, 2018, 01:56:58 PM
The reality is those on the left want a war & the first shots may have already been fired, time will tell. Those on the right are not awake to this fact and sitting here in disbelief of the circus acts those on the left are performing daily.
I believe that they do

And the fools actually think that they can win

The truth is if they manage to start one, both sides will lose and China will double in size
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Sammconn on October 05, 2018, 10:01:46 PM
Samm, i truly hope you do not live in ka-bec. 

For those of you who have never been to Quebec,  i advise you to never go there.

I have been all over this earth, and dealt with many different kinds of people, but the one nationality that is truly a waste of oxygen is the FARKIN FRENCH !!!!!!

And what makes it worse is the fact that the french canadian fluffers think they are just as wee wee as the oxygen thieves from that spineless country across the pond
Ah Nate. Sorry for your...nah I can’t appologize for those A$$ hats.
They are a special bunch.

Hope the rest of your adventure was good.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 05, 2018, 10:37:44 PM
I’m raising a glass to the next scotus justice Kavanaugh




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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on October 06, 2018, 02:09:28 PM
Here, Here!
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Post by: stlaser on October 06, 2018, 08:54:29 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/IKiWHoI.jpg)
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Post by: JR on October 06, 2018, 11:33:12 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/IKiWHoI.jpg)

:likebutton:

Hopefully, more than that!

Unemployment to 3.9%, Pro US trade deals. Now we need another judge to retire!

Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on October 06, 2018, 11:35:16 PM
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Anyone seen her hitch hiking back yet?
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: stlaser on October 07, 2018, 09:06:01 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/IKiWHoI.jpg)

:likebutton:

Hopefully, more than that!

Unemployment to 3.9%, Pro US trade deals. Now we need another judge to retire!

Or croak (thinking RBG) .....
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 07, 2018, 09:44:51 AM
I think she’s dead already and Schumer and Pelosi are propping her up like Weekend At Bernie’s


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 07, 2018, 05:24:41 PM
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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on October 07, 2018, 08:28:02 PM
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No left leanin' girly man thinks this is very funny!
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Post by: stlaser on October 07, 2018, 09:42:44 PM
We can only hope....

(http://i.imgur.com/7hJw9dU.jpg)
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on October 08, 2018, 02:12:06 PM
We can only hope....

(http://i.imgur.com/7hJw9dU.jpg)
:likebutton: is not good enough!!!!!!

"sorry Ken"
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: KensAuto on October 08, 2018, 07:31:12 PM
That was pretty funny!
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: stlaser on October 08, 2018, 09:20:57 PM
https://youtu.be/lkmrgnk3RIc
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Post by: cudakidd53 on October 08, 2018, 09:31:44 PM
https://youtu.be/lkmrgnk3RIc

That’s funny there Charles!
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Post by: KensAuto on October 08, 2018, 09:49:25 PM
Why would you insult Charles like that Mike?
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: stlaser on October 08, 2018, 09:57:39 PM
Thinking Ken needs some of those Mattis crispy treats sent his way....  :tongue:
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on October 09, 2018, 01:46:32 AM
Got to admit, that is good.

Even Hillary lost it in there!!!
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Farmer Jon on October 09, 2018, 07:29:51 AM
 This is Rant part of the forum? Well here it goes...  Hearing about Dons granddaughter re lit a fire inside me. The dog here on the farm has bitten all my kids, all my brothers kids, a friends kid and the neighbor. Drew blood a couple times. Yet my boss refuses to see that she is a problem even though he witnessed it more than once. We will all be in the office talking, the dog will come in and bite A kid for who know what reason. Then he says you guys just need to keep the kids away from her. Um No.  I live here. I am not making my kids stay inside all the time. No kids allowed in the shop now? No I don't think so. We have been very careful around her but I know it will happen again. She came real close to disappearing last time it happened. The next time will be the last.
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Post by: Nate on October 09, 2018, 07:58:09 AM
From what i recall jon, you are an actual partner of that business right, and not just a hired hand?
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Post by: Atkinsmatt on October 09, 2018, 08:14:29 AM
More than 1 way for that to happen.
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Post by: Superwhdm on October 09, 2018, 08:18:42 AM
Doggo would be dead.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: stlaser on October 09, 2018, 08:23:26 AM
Doggo would have been dead long ago....

FIFY
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: cudakidd53 on October 09, 2018, 10:56:21 AM
Golden Malorin Flybait and Coke in a saucer will cure that problem
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Farmer Jon on October 09, 2018, 11:07:51 AM
From what i recall jon, you are an actual partner of that business right, and not just a hired hand?
Yeah but the boss is still the boss. He don't have any family. That dog is his baby.

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Post by: Nate on October 09, 2018, 11:34:58 AM
From what i recall jon, you are an actual partner of that business right, and not just a hired hand?
Yeah but the boss is still the boss. He don't have any family. That dog is his baby.

You are a better man than i jon
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on October 09, 2018, 12:13:03 PM
I can understand the man's protection feelings for that dog, I guess I shared those feelings for Scout. But people are more important. I mean family type people. I'm a happy man when my or some other dog chews up some bad sort, but when it turns against family, you have to make a choice.

I nearly shot Scout dead the night of the bite, but just couldn't come to that. I just couldn't. But by the next morning, reasoning was kicking in and from that moment on every time I'd think of Scout, I'd see the image of that child and her mother screaming and bloody. That did it for me. Clear (albeit) hard choice.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Farmer Jon on October 09, 2018, 01:06:57 PM
I'm in a catch. I didn't have 2 nickels to rub together when I started here 17 years ago. The man has done so much for me and my family. Took us in and made my brother and I partners. We can't jeopardize everything by taking care of the dog but can't allow it to keep happening. Like I said above. We are in agreement here that it happens again the dog is gone and nobody knows where it went.

Don I really feel you. I don't know exactly how you feel but it's close. She never bit that bad just nips but drew blood.



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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on October 09, 2018, 01:29:28 PM
I'm in a catch. I didn't have 2 nickels to rub together when I started here 17 years ago. The man has done so much for me and my family. Took us in and made my brother and I partners. We can't jeopardize everything by taking care of the dog but can't allow it to keep happening. Like I said above. We are in agreement here that it happens again the dog is gone and nobody knows where it went.

Don I really feel you. I don't know exactly how you feel but it's close. She never bit that bad just nips but drew blood.



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Tough spot...

Act carefully and after much prayer and consideration.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on October 09, 2018, 01:34:01 PM
God luck Jon. It would be on a leash at least, good compromise.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Atkinsmatt on October 09, 2018, 02:55:58 PM
Fence in an area if he needs to keep it.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 09, 2018, 07:38:53 PM
My opinion. Don’t wait for it to happen again. If you don’t think reason or logic will prevail. It’s much less suspicious for the dog to make an exit now.


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on October 10, 2018, 12:01:34 AM
My opinion. Don’t wait for it to happen again. If you don’t think reason or logic will prevail. It’s much less suspicious for the dog to make an exit now.


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Some TRN logic there. Sure you don't to upset someone who has brought you in. However safety over rides feelings often. If it disappears right after something happens there could be some issues. If it just disappears, it's where is the dog?
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Farmer Jon on October 10, 2018, 07:36:00 AM
You guys make a good point.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on October 10, 2018, 09:18:54 AM
I almost hate to weigh in here

So this is just the opinion of some bonehead, nothing more

It seems to be to be sneaky and dishonest to do something like stealing a dog and killing it or releasing it somewhere else.

I could be way wrong here, but my core tells me the straight up man way of doing things is best, even if it hurts or hurts people's feelings

I'd go to the owner and tell him the dog is dangerous, present him with the facts, the dog has bitten X number of people, and you can't live with the danger it presents. Let him know it is time to do something or you will be forced to.

That way when the dog comes up missing after the next incidient, and he asks you if you killed the dog, you can look him in the eye and say yes.

So this happened in my life. When at Ft. Campbell, I worked out every day. If I was at home on any day, I'd go for a 4 mile run to start the day off. My neighbors dogs would come after me. I went to him and told him he needed to control them. I told him that after some time, if he didn't do something, I'd shoot the things.

Well, it came to that. They came after me and I dropped one on the spot with my 1911, and shot the other one while he was running away. That dog died on their porch. Later that day, the neighbor came knocking on my door. He asked me straight up if I shot his dogs. I said yes, I did. He asked my why, and I told him. He was upset, but said, "Well, I guess you told me you were going to do something, and I can see that you mean what you say."

After that the relationship healed with time.

So again, I am no oracle of wisdom or anything, but my gut says being straight up is the way to roll.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Bigdave_185 on October 11, 2018, 10:24:29 PM
I think honesty is best.   I have never been good at how it is delivered but it’s always honest. 


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Farmer Jon on October 12, 2018, 07:40:05 AM
I hope this never happens again but I know it will. When it happens again. I will take the child to the hospital. They will alert the authorities. Then It will be out of my hands.

This is where we are.  I cant even it bring it up. He gets all mad. He sees it as the kids fault. The dog did nothing wrong. They just got too close to her. After his stroke his mind did not rewire right. We are just stuck. If we touch that dog I'm afraid he will kick us out. Then everything we worked for is for not. On the other hand I have to hope my kid or my niece or anyone else wont get bit. The dog has arthritis. We did get him to take her to the vet and get her some meds for that. Her demeanor has changed since. I know how that works though. He will quit taking his own meds sometimes just because he thinks he don't need them. Will he do that with the dog too?
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 12, 2018, 08:31:28 AM
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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Bear9350 on October 12, 2018, 08:57:56 AM
Jon, if I remember correctly you guys were getting back into cattle on the farm?  Back when I was working on the farm you would occasionally have a calf that would get pneumonia.  We had some medication we could give that would normally clear it up pretty quick.  If we didn't catch it in time or if it was real bad and we couldn't get it to clear up a double dose would put them to sleep and they just didn't wake up.  It was pretty peaceful/ humane compared to some of the methods I have seen/ used to put down a sick animal on the farm. 
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on October 12, 2018, 01:08:07 PM
Humane is the best, for both the above picture and the dog.

He should get 2-3 more pics, should be great. They won't like it.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 12, 2018, 04:59:20 PM
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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Farmer Jon on October 16, 2018, 08:11:51 AM
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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 17, 2018, 07:02:55 AM
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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: kampfitt on October 17, 2018, 09:50:27 AM
 :grin:
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on October 17, 2018, 10:16:56 AM
Me too, me too!!!
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: EL TATE on October 17, 2018, 12:16:09 PM
I have 1/16th Montana Blackfoot lineage. enough to claim tribal rights if I chose to. I don't, because I'm not a darn native, I'm just some white guy who's also Welsh/Scotch/Irish/French/Russian, and I only claim to be an AMERICAN. She's a 1/4 of my worth and trying to make something out of it? There's a reason POTUS mocks you... (insert Red Foreman catch phrase here)
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on October 17, 2018, 12:36:23 PM
I see where Senator Orin Hatch notes that he is 1/1024th Tyrannosaurus Rex, and the rest other assorted dinosaurs!

I think I'm 1/1024th grease...WTR to be exact.

Who knows what WTR is?
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: stlaser on October 17, 2018, 12:55:05 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/HCzVVHF.jpg)

My apologies Ken
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: dave945 on October 17, 2018, 01:00:08 PM
Is that Wide Temperature Range?  Are you saying you’re having hot flashes? 


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on October 17, 2018, 01:12:02 PM
Is that Wide Temperature Range?  Are you saying you’re having hot flashes? 


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Is that what it means?
Hmmm
I've had that stuff on my uniform, all over my hands, and subsequently in my ears, eyes and other itchy parts. Always just knew it as "WTR" and knew it was helicopter grease that also lubricated humans equally as well.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: stlaser on October 17, 2018, 02:49:09 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/9uBD7Fc.jpg)
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 17, 2018, 04:37:35 PM
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WTR....I thought it was whiskey to redneck ratio


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: EL TATE on October 17, 2018, 05:06:07 PM
Since Shawn asked and I didn't want to clutter up Dave's thread anymore than we already had, I got my results from Blackstone back and it would appear that Jiffy Lube is off the hook, one way or another. Everything is consistent with them having put in 5w30 albeit cheap stuff, but not waste oil. (that is unless they were just covering their tracks and changed the oil again before sending Cyndie down the road to their "authorized mechanic." Either way, 6 in one hand 1/2 doz in the other scenario, so I'm going to do a hot flush, run some seafoam and ATF through it, dump new flush mixture in as I'm draining old out, and cycle it once again w/ new fresh oil, filters along the way etc. if it works, I'm back in business and sludge was my culprit all along, if not, I'll probably drop a good used long block in there rather than rebuild the top end of a 193k motor and oil pump... I'll keep y'all updated but for now it's just depressing.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 17, 2018, 05:18:50 PM
Sorry to hear. That’s quite the coincidence


In the mean time

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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: EL TATE on October 17, 2018, 06:27:30 PM
yeah, very coincidental. I was hoping for the smoking gun, but no luck there.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on October 18, 2018, 01:28:03 AM
Listening today on how so many areas have more registered voters than there are adults, fitting.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on October 18, 2018, 09:38:48 AM
Listening today on how so many areas have more registered voters than there are adults, fitting.
Vote early, vote often...
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 18, 2018, 12:48:20 PM
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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: EL TATE on October 18, 2018, 01:08:13 PM
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This one got me! hahahahahahah!!!!
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: KensAuto on October 18, 2018, 05:21:31 PM
Vote early, vote often...

...And remember folks, vote Red on Nov 6th, and Blue on the 7th. Gotta stay organized.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: stlaser on October 18, 2018, 09:12:12 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/ft5VSGd.jpg)

Seems fair....
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 19, 2018, 08:55:37 AM
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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on October 19, 2018, 12:48:38 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/ft5VSGd.jpg)

Seems fair....

Crumbs,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on October 21, 2018, 12:14:50 PM
The left os so morally and substantively weak!
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Farmer Jon on October 23, 2018, 07:06:43 PM
I have to say I am a little worried about this hoard of people headed to the border. Will Trump cave and let them in or will there be blood shed.

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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on October 23, 2018, 08:48:25 PM
I really hope he stands up and does not allow any of this hoard to pass. If he does it will get worse.

Lets put the military on the border and stop the invasion!
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on October 23, 2018, 10:05:45 PM
He is not going to let them in. In any event it is months away with a hurricane or two before they get near.

Soldiers won't have to man the border, we citizens are fed up and will stand guard whether we have the 1st Cav or not.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on October 23, 2018, 10:30:45 PM
He is not going to let them in. In any event it is months away with a hurricane or two before they get near.

Soldiers won't have to man the border, we citizens are fed up and will stand guard whether we have the 1st Cav or not.

I would!!
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 23, 2018, 10:35:17 PM
Ok guys. Let’s drop the hyperbole and talking points and look at this logically


https://youtu.be/LPjzfGChGlE


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on October 24, 2018, 08:36:31 AM
Ok guys. Let’s drop the hyperbole and talking points and look at this logically


https://youtu.be/LPjzfGChGlE


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Very effective presentation

and know what?

Only conservative, reasoning people will ever look at it.

The brainwashed socialists/communists will work relentlessly to flood our great nation with whoever they can encourage for the purpose of destroying our republic.

SSD (So Sez Don)
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: EL TATE on January 09, 2019, 06:09:48 PM
Since Shawn asked and I didn't want to clutter up Dave's thread anymore than we already had, I got my results from Blackstone back and it would appear that Jiffy Lube is off the hook, one way or another. Everything is consistent with them having put in 5w30 albeit cheap stuff, but not waste oil. (that is unless they were just covering their tracks and changed the oil again before sending Cyndie down the road to their "authorized mechanic." Either way, 6 in one hand 1/2 doz in the other scenario, so I'm going to do a hot flush, run some seafoam and ATF through it, dump new flush mixture in as I'm draining old out, and cycle it once again w/ new fresh oil, filters along the way etc. if it works, I'm back in business and sludge was my culprit all along, if not, I'll probably drop a good used long block in there rather than rebuild the top end of a 193k motor and oil pump... I'll keep y'all updated but for now it's just depressing.

So the Denali is in the shop finally, and I get an opportunity to get a good look at things. Bottom end looks really good. pulled crankshaft bearing caps, even the thrust bearing and it's all looking really good, so the tech and I settle on the oil pump, which was in fact mangled at the top. put her all back together and she's only building 15 PSI and lifter noise is pretty bad. he's suspecting camshaft bearings and wear in the journals with all the iron that was in the pan. must have been dropping oil pressure with the wife driving and not noticing things since I never drive it. now it looks like i'm buying a used motor... feel kinda sick right now.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on January 09, 2019, 06:13:54 PM
Ouch, 5.3? Those are pretty cheap but don't all Denali's have the 6.0/2?
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: EL TATE on January 09, 2019, 06:45:45 PM
6.0. waiting on a call back from a customer of mine that might have a decent deal for me.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: stlaser on January 09, 2019, 07:08:29 PM
Can’t freshen up the original?
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: KensAuto on January 09, 2019, 08:13:00 PM
You could drive it till it goes pop. You'd be surprised how long it will last with 15psi. I have a company vehicle running around with 8, and 0 at idle...spun cam bearing.  They just don't want to spend the money.  Only thing that would take it out quicker is if the roller lifters aren't rolling anymore.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on January 10, 2019, 02:51:28 AM
But you could never really trust it.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: cruizng on January 10, 2019, 08:45:34 AM
Ouch Tate... Hope you find that good deal.

I have a bother to relay. I don't deal with a lot of contractors since I have done most of it myself in the past so this is a new one. It takes me quite a while to save up $9k so when I hire out I would like to think I got my money's worth.

I recently contracted out the insulating and sheet rocking of my 48' X 30' garage. Right at $9K. I had other quotes and they were right around that. The good is that they showed up when they said they would. Got it done in the time frame they said. Crew was nice to my wife and basically did the minimum of what they said they would do.

The bother is things like they show up in 3 sedan with basically no tools between them. The sheetrock crew had to use tools out of my toolbox so they could take down the garage door opener brackets to slide the sheet rock in. We invited them in the house to use our restroom if they needed it. They elected to piss on the side driveway in the snow and ice so it is a popsicle treat for my dog.. grrr dumb dog. They made a total mess both inside and out. Outside they left all of the sheet rock scrapes and straping among all kinds of trash, nails and screws. We have tires on our vehicles. Inside I think they dropped more screws than they used in the sheet rock. Trash everywhere. When they showed up at 7am and waited for the sheet rock to be delivered the foreman asks me if I want to help him out so I say yes. He say's can you take all of the face plates off for us? I say ok.. then he proceeds to tell me they ( crew of 3) are going to go wait in the warm car until the sheet rock arrives. It didn't arrive until 8am. So they sat out there for an hour while I took all of the face plates off. Which in the end I am glad I did because I missed a high one for the TV and when they took it off with my crew driver from my tool boxes they just dropped on the floor and the screw is never to be found again.

They ran out of plastic for the ceiling and wanted me to run to Home Depot to get that and some 2"x4"'s for backer boards on the one end. I had the boards but told him to call the owner and have him bring the plastic.

When they undid the lights they lost the screws to some of those and left them hanging. Telling me "you don't want me to be your electrician!". So I wired all of the lights back in when they were done.

So they get all done and do an ok job. My garage is 2 inches out of square corner to corner so there are some challenges. They had piled up a pretty big pile of sheet rock cut off scraps in the one bay. Some pretty large sheets also.

I don't know why but I assumed they would put all of the plates back on, wire the lights back up like they found them, take all of the construction trash with them, and clean up after themselves. They didn't do any of that.

When my wife ask the owner about the trash and construction material he said they don't haul it away but could bring a trailer and haul it away for $200.00. No.

When my wife called him to settle up with the second half of payment he doesn't ask how it went or was she happy. Took the number and said thanks and that was it.

So we will have a small roll off delivered and clean up everything and plus take the opportunity get rid of a bunch of other non flammable stuff.

So for $9k... do you get what you pay for.. I guess I would / have run the crew differently.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on January 10, 2019, 09:23:32 AM
That’s the reason why I hate to pay people to do anything.  Some crews are better than others. The Sheetrock guy I hired only does the taping and floating and he subs out the rock.

The expectation, unless you state otherwise when they are providing the estimate is that all they have to do is walk in and cut and place rock and then float and tape.  Waste and trash is your responsibility. They should have told you when you got the estimate that you had to have all the stuff off the walls and ceiling before they got there. 

I backed my trailer near the front door as I had them at least throw all their scraps in the trailer which made it easy for me to dump it.

Moral of the story is don’t assume anything and be specific in your contract.  Mine left a lot of mud dropped and smeared on the sub floor which I wish I had covered because I had to sand it off. They also spattered it all in my roughed in shower which I had to clean off to get prepped for tile.

At least they masked the windows with plastic....

So in the end, did they do a good job with the rock and tape? Smooth and decent?


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: KensAuto on January 10, 2019, 09:29:10 AM
Wow. I learned some things here.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: stlaser on January 10, 2019, 09:49:49 AM
unfortunately the devil is in the details as they say....

Charles is correct, if its a new crew or sub etc it needs to be a very in depth contract. Once you have things decided between the two of you the jobs get easier for seconds and thirds and on and on. Sometimes you get lucky and hire professionals but that is not the norm. 
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: EL TATE on January 10, 2019, 09:58:08 AM
You could drive it till it goes pop. You'd be surprised how long it will last with 15psi. I have a company vehicle running around with 8, and 0 at idle...spun cam bearing.  They just don't want to spend the money.  Only thing that would take it out quicker is if the roller lifters aren't rolling anymore.

it's got some lifter noise, I have to stop by and listen to it today and make a decision. $2200 for a 6.0L w/ 60k on it, no core no tax, delivered is my best offer on a replacement so far. what would you do to prolong it if you decided to just drive it Ken? My wife basically runs back and forth to dance the grocery store with it. throw some 10w40 at it?
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on January 10, 2019, 10:08:52 AM
9K is a lot, no matter what. Did they do a fair job though?

I can see not hauling the trash away. But no tools or doing the little things is not a complete job. I could see odd tool or other little thing but it sounded like, " I want them done and out"!


Tate, 2200 is OK for a 6ltr, but not great. I paid 2k for a 5.3/trans and ecm few years ago when they were not as easy to get.

Have you checked with your insurance and giving them the story? They may cover it then go after jiffy lube, was it?
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Atkinsmatt on January 10, 2019, 10:29:11 AM
As A PM for a construction company, I can tell you the devil is in the details.  I have to really pay attention to scope of work to ensure that I don't have gaps and also to the exclusions like not removing debris or surface prep ect.  It is unusual to find a sub that goes above the bare minimum anymore.  And the ones that do are usually not the lowest bidder which is what the office folks are worried about.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on January 10, 2019, 10:49:18 AM
You could drive it till it goes pop. You'd be surprised how long it will last with 15psi. I have a company vehicle running around with 8, and 0 at idle...spun cam bearing.  They just don't want to spend the money.  Only thing that would take it out quicker is if the roller lifters aren't rolling anymore.

it's got some lifter noise, I have to stop by and listen to it today and make a decision. $2200 for a 6.0L w/ 60k on it, no core no tax, delivered is my best offer on a replacement so far. what would you do to prolong it if you decided to just drive it Ken? My wife basically runs back and forth to dance the grocery store with it. throw some 10w40 at it?
Tate, that price is ridiculous!
Should be half that or less
I wouldn't put any trust in that motor, Just start pulling it.
Now I am confused as to the very high price of a motor up there. They really are less than half that cost around here. Maybe we should find one here and have it shipped to you. I'm guessing $350-$400 shipping???
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: OldKooT on January 10, 2019, 11:19:27 AM
Tate is your truck a lq4 or lq 9? 

Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: KensAuto on January 10, 2019, 11:26:35 AM
You could drive it till it goes pop. You'd be surprised how long it will last with 15psi. I have a company vehicle running around with 8, and 0 at idle...spun cam bearing.  They just don't want to spend the money.  Only thing that would take it out quicker is if the roller lifters aren't rolling anymore.

it's got some lifter noise, I have to stop by and listen to it today and make a decision. $2200 for a 6.0L w/ 60k on it, no core no tax, delivered is my best offer on a replacement so far. what would you do to prolong it if you decided to just drive it Ken? My wife basically runs back and forth to dance the grocery store with it. throw some 10w40 at it?
I'm running 20-50 in the one I mentioned, and it travels to Phoenix weekly. We just did a service on it Monday, so it has at least 3k on it since I diagnosed it. I bet you could easily get a year out of it as a grocery getter....guessing of course.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: stlaser on January 10, 2019, 01:14:16 PM
Don, I’m sure Tate has contacts they Randy’s for shipping but if not I have a guy out of Memphis that is extremely competitive
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on January 10, 2019, 04:01:32 PM
Don, I’m sure Tate has contacts they Randy’s for shipping but if not I have a guy out of Memphis that is extremely competitive
I'm sure he does.

I checked right after I made the statement. I found several for sale ranging from $600 up to $4K for a 408" stroker. Several in the $1200 arena and one or two between $2K-$2,500.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on January 10, 2019, 05:24:50 PM
That sounds better. Plus competition lets you deal some.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: cruizng on January 10, 2019, 06:57:18 PM
That’s the reason why I hate to pay people to do anything.  Some crews are better than others. The Sheetrock guy I hired only does the taping and floating and he subs out the rock.

The expectation, unless you state otherwise when they are providing the estimate is that all they have to do is walk in and cut and place rock and then float and tape.  Waste and trash is your responsibility. They should have told you when you got the estimate that you had to have all the stuff off the walls and ceiling before they got there. 

I backed my trailer near the front door as I had them at least throw all their scraps in the trailer which made it easy for me to dump it.

Moral of the story is don’t assume anything and be specific in your contract.  Mine left a lot of mud dropped and smeared on the sub floor which I wish I had covered because I had to sand it off. They also spattered it all in my roughed in shower which I had to clean off to get prepped for tile.

At least they masked the windows with plastic....

So in the end, did they do a good job with the rock and tape? Smooth and decent?


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Yep definitely in the details. They didn’t tape or mud. I will do that. I just didn’t want to lift the sheets to the ceiling. And then once I got done hauling all of the stuff out and prepping I told them to do the walls.

They did a good job hanging the sheet rock. They had a couple of spots around a light box where the router went crazy that you can hide with mud.

All in all it’s ok. I just can’t remember the last time I paid anyone to do anything.  Not like I’m building all the time though.

Lessons learned. But hey!!  It’s only money.


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: cruizng on January 10, 2019, 07:27:53 PM
Well. Not a great test but it was 27' outside and 36' in the garage when I got home tonight. I filled up the torpedo kerosene heater and within one hour it was at 70'.

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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: TexasRedNeck on January 11, 2019, 08:27:13 AM
Just for reference my guys priced the job by the sq ft of rock. I paid $1.11/sq ft of wall surface for install tape float and texture

The spray foam was about $1.60 sq ft


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: cruizng on January 11, 2019, 09:01:32 AM
Oh sure... rub it in.. LOL... It's almost over.. heater to be installed today. Then I can start doing my thing.  :beercheers:
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: EL TATE on January 11, 2019, 11:29:49 AM
You could drive it till it goes pop. You'd be surprised how long it will last with 15psi. I have a company vehicle running around with 8, and 0 at idle...spun cam bearing.  They just don't want to spend the money.  Only thing that would take it out quicker is if the roller lifters aren't rolling anymore.

it's got some lifter noise, I have to stop by and listen to it today and make a decision. $2200 for a 6.0L w/ 60k on it, no core no tax, delivered is my best offer on a replacement so far. what would you do to prolong it if you decided to just drive it Ken? My wife basically runs back and forth to dance the grocery store with it. throw some 10w40 at it?
I'm running 20-50 in the one I mentioned, and it travels to Phoenix weekly. We just did a service on it Monday, so it has at least 3k on it since I diagnosed it. I bet you could easily get a year out of it as a grocery getter....guessing of course.

Lifter noise is pronounced on both sides, 15psi at cold idle and at operating temp. Camshaft bearing is main suspect as it turns out the BLASTED O RING had degraded and was probably contributing to wear for a long period of time. But because I very rarely drove it, I never noticed if operating PSI was out of normal range or not. Likely the jiffy lube scenario was just coincidental, possibly put on a dry filter that spelled the end of the ailing o-ring/pump and accelerated us to this point, but based on blackstone labs test results and the shop findings, I can't find a way to blame jiffy lube, (although I really want to) that will stick.

what is the collective opinion on tearing down the top end and rebuilding now that I'm not in a hurry and know where I stand for the most part? Bear in mind, the bottom end looks flawless. bearing caps came off and bearings look practically new w/ 190k on them.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on January 11, 2019, 12:55:22 PM
I would recommend getting a used long block and have it completely rebuilt and swapped once done?
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: stlaser on January 11, 2019, 02:28:26 PM
Pull motor, strip refresh, new cam and a head job (can I say that here!  :tongue: ) then reinstall....
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on January 11, 2019, 02:32:40 PM
Pull motor, strip refresh, new cam and a head job (can I say that here!  :tongue: ) then reinstall....

Best option. No questions about it then and you have it.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: OldKooT on January 11, 2019, 03:53:13 PM
Tate do you have the ability to "rebuild" it at home yourself?
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Post by: stlaser on January 11, 2019, 04:29:09 PM
Tate do you have the ability to "rebuild" it at home yourself?

Think last time I spoke to Tate about home garage he did not have one but it was in future plans. But he has that view I wish I had & fresh seafood too!
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: EL TATE on January 11, 2019, 04:43:47 PM
Tate do you have the ability to "rebuild" it at home yourself?

working that angle on it now. the bottom end is spotless. No exaggeration. not unlike Don's Burban. it's back at the house and I think i'll take the heads off myself and get a better look at things. weather has been really mild this year outside of wind storms, not much rain or cold to speak of. getting tired of paying for maybes. if I had my garage still this would have been done months ago and we'd be talking about how great my rebuilt Yukon runs.
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Post by: rpar86 on January 11, 2019, 05:10:48 PM
Do they have any of those "rent a garage" workspaces near you Tate? Heck, even a storage unit with decent power might suffice.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: EL TATE on January 11, 2019, 05:16:05 PM
when it gets to the point I need a cover I've got a few options. I ran a little to hard at this up front. I'm going to take my time, get the heads off, evaluate from there. I can do the heads in a weekend easy.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on January 11, 2019, 06:04:39 PM
You said the low end is clean, but the cam journels are bad? I would pull the motor for that.

If the short block is good, just get some exchange heads and your good. Drop in a nice cam and go.

Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on January 11, 2019, 09:44:36 PM
You could drive it till it goes pop. You'd be surprised how long it will last with 15psi. I have a company vehicle running around with 8, and 0 at idle...spun cam bearing.  They just don't want to spend the money.  Only thing that would take it out quicker is if the roller lifters aren't rolling anymore.

it's got some lifter noise, I have to stop by and listen to it today and make a decision. $2200 for a 6.0L w/ 60k on it, no core no tax, delivered is my best offer on a replacement so far. what would you do to prolong it if you decided to just drive it Ken? My wife basically runs back and forth to dance the grocery store with it. throw some 10w40 at it?
I'm running 20-50 in the one I mentioned, and it travels to Phoenix weekly. We just did a service on it Monday, so it has at least 3k on it since I diagnosed it. I bet you could easily get a year out of it as a grocery getter....guessing of course.

Lifter noise is pronounced on both sides, 15psi at cold idle and at operating temp. Camshaft bearing is main suspect as it turns out the BLASTED O RING had degraded and was probably contributing to wear for a long period of time. But because I very rarely drove it, I never noticed if operating PSI was out of normal range or not. Likely the jiffy lube scenario was just coincidental, possibly put on a dry filter that spelled the end of the ailing o-ring/pump and accelerated us to this point, but based on blackstone labs test results and the shop findings, I can't find a way to blame jiffy lube, (although I really want to) that will stick.

what is the collective opinion on tearing down the top end and rebuilding now that I'm not in a hurry and know where I stand for the most part? Bear in mind, the bottom end looks flawless. bearing caps came off and bearings look practically new w/ 190k on them.
Well, its a lot of work, especially when you have to remove the oil pump. I'm sure you have been following mu cam change...

I'm now removing the oil pan which entails dropping the front diff a bit.

But when you do, wouldn't you want to replace cam bushings? That means pulling the engine and doing a complete teardown, So might as well rering and bearings, hot tank, line boring and...ad-nauseum
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: OldKooT on January 11, 2019, 10:57:35 PM
It's a high mileage LS engine. No need to line bore in all honesty. They aren't all that prone to core shift. Distinct chance he could pull the engine...have it thoroughly cleaned/hot tanked..slap it together and run it. $500 and hes on the road. 
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: EL TATE on January 14, 2019, 10:30:24 AM
It's a high mileage LS engine. No need to line bore in all honesty. They aren't all that prone to core shift. Distinct chance he could pull the engine...have it thoroughly cleaned/hot tanked..slap it together and run it. $500 and hes on the road.

With all the iron in the pan, how high is the likelihood that the cam journals are savable? I'm not sure how it actually works, but I would imagine there are methods to machine the journals and install bearings/bushings that take up the new distance? I've got a good machine shop here that I've worked with for a long time and will pose these questions to him as well, I just like to get the general consensus from the crew here. 
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on January 14, 2019, 10:43:57 AM
I doubt the actual block is damaged, just the cam bearings. Getting all the crud out is the ticket then have new bearings put in.

You will basically have a new motor.

You say time is no biggie so that would get the most bang for the buck. Used motors will always be in question some.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: EL TATE on January 14, 2019, 11:43:23 AM
I doubt the actual block is damaged, just the cam bearings. Getting all the crud out is the ticket then have new bearings put in.

You will basically have a new motor.

You say time is no biggie so that would get the most bang for the buck. Used motors will always be in question some.
Exactly what I was thinking. Right now, I'm planning on tearing down to the block myself, getting the block and heads to the machine shop, do the tcase rear half while I have the motor out, (I did find pump rub evidence), and bolt everything back up with all the new parts I've already paid for in the past year; alternator, water pump, oil pump & timing chain, plugs and wires, and then I really WILL have a new motor.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: OldKooT on January 14, 2019, 12:10:47 PM
Most likely you will have no issues rebuilding the engine. Like JR said, getting it properly hot tanked, the oil journals scrubbed clean and quality machine work/parts, and you should be like new. If the truck has a oil cooler, make sure those parts are properly cleaned or replaced *cooler* as well.

Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: EL TATE on January 14, 2019, 02:52:42 PM
Most likely you will have no issues rebuilding the engine. Like JR said, getting it properly hot tanked, the oil journals scrubbed clean and quality machine work/parts, and you should be like new. If the truck has a oil cooler, make sure those parts are properly cleaned or replaced *cooler* as well.

Good lookin out on the oil cooler, didn't think of that one.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: KensAuto on January 14, 2019, 03:02:57 PM
^^^radiator replacement.  It's hard to get them clean via flushing
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 17, 2019, 08:47:50 AM
Raising kid choices!

I am very much a man of routine for the simple things in my life.   I follow the same thing every morning when possible

My wife on the other hand does not from my point of view


Each morning she is up before me getting ready for her day ( ladies take forever) the twins get up between 6-6:10 and start always fighting.   One thing they fight about the most is pants they don’t want to wear ( I insist they wear Levi type pants to day care not sweats or lounge type cloths to build that dress right type of foundation I fight regularly with the 11yr old boy) the second fight is over a fruit snack/cracker combo that mom makes for them each morning to take on the car ride to daycare

This is what usually wakes me up. Screaming kids!!! Which is much less than desirable.  I have suggested many times we go the few days of a battle of “no treats in the morning” and the routine of them getting treats will get broken and it can go back to being a reward instead of expected.    Mom continues to disregard advise and this morning both kids had a flop on the floor breakdown over who got what cup color for the damn crackers!!   

Dad now awake, cups removed from said children and treats are going in my mouth right now.   The next time I wake up with screaming kids I am moving to the basement.     

Less is more with young kids.  They don’t need choices they need shown what is right and choices can be made later.   
If I ask my son if he wants to put on socks to go outside he will tell me no he doesn’t and walk out into the cold garage.  If I tell him Max do you want to come into the garage? “Yes” than you need socks on.
Do you want to go out with dad to work? “No” that’s ok Max be good I’ll be back.  If he says “yes” ok you need Levi’s and socks and shoes.     

I can’t stand giving kids options they don’t really have a choice on.    I can’t stand offering choices that they don’t need

At work this week I was asked to make some custom sample colors for cabinets and my first thought was “YES I can make some custom cool Shiz and everyone will love it” sat back a minute and thought wait.  If I give them a crazy eight-ten step stain process sample some lady will come in love it but not want to pay for it and I will have to repeat the time consuming process on a whole kitchen.   I have some simple color choices in the basic colors of blue, brown, red, grey, black and so forth and we will see what the price options will be for others before I make samples and hang them on the wall

Choices fellas choices.    I want a hot cup of coffee my morning shower and NO screaming kids to start my morning off with a headache


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Post by: stlaser on January 17, 2019, 08:59:09 AM
Dave, good luck with your endeavors.

Just remember, they will always be your children and everything that implies. Mine are 14,15,16 (almost 17) & i spent last night (from 8- until after 10pm after I had went to bed and fallen asleep once mind you) dealing with two of them fighting over clothes.... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 17, 2019, 09:00:39 AM
I suggest we trade kids,   I’ll take away all the cloths at the point In my morning they can wear and own only uniforms lol


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 17, 2019, 09:02:28 AM
Dark blue no hole blue jeans from the local Walmart and red t shirts and a red pill over hoodie option. White socks and the most uncomfortable pair of canvas shoes I can find for under $30. 

Sound good? Lol 


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on January 17, 2019, 10:13:02 AM
I hear you Dave, the big one hear is who rides in the front seat (went odd-even with boys). But that only holds if they want it. Daughter will be driving soon and will help with at least one of them.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: TexasRedNeck on January 17, 2019, 10:22:13 AM
 Get up earlier??


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on January 17, 2019, 10:42:24 AM
as nate sits here drinking his morning coffee in peace and quiet  :popcorn:
Title: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: wyorunner on January 17, 2019, 11:18:32 AM
as nate sits here drinking his morning coffee in peace and quiet  :popcorn:

I’d wager it wasn’t always this way! But yea I too drink my coffee in somewhat quiet, our boy is just driving cars around in the morning waiting for breakfast. But I imagine it’s because there is only he and I most mornings.

Dave Sorry to hear that’s what you have to wake up to. Can you just make the boys wear and use all identical items? Back to that no choice thing!
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 17, 2019, 12:01:46 PM
I would be all for uniforms. But momma lets them wear lounge cloths.     I am ok with lounge cloths but you act different in them.   It’s just that morning head ache  lol


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: cruizng on January 19, 2019, 09:26:53 AM
Raising kid choices!

I am very much a man of routine for the simple things in my life.   I follow the same thing every morning when possible

My wife on the other hand does not from my point of view


Each morning she is up before me getting ready for her day ( ladies take forever) the twins get up between 6-6:10 and start always fighting.   One thing they fight about the most is pants they don’t want to wear ( I insist they wear Levi type pants to day care not sweats or lounge type cloths to build that dress right type of foundation I fight regularly with the 11yr old boy) the second fight is over a fruit snack/cracker combo that mom makes for them each morning to take on the car ride to daycare

This is what usually wakes me up. Screaming kids!!! Which is much less than desirable.  I have suggested many times we go the few days of a battle of “no treats in the morning” and the routine of them getting treats will get broken and it can go back to being a reward instead of expected.    Mom continues to disregard advise and this morning both kids had a flop on the floor breakdown over who got what cup color for the damn crackers!!   

Dad now awake, cups removed from said children and treats are going in my mouth right now.   The next time I wake up with screaming kids I am moving to the basement.     

Less is more with young kids.  They don’t need choices they need shown what is right and choices can be made later.   
If I ask my son if he wants to put on socks to go outside he will tell me no he doesn’t and walk out into the cold garage.  If I tell him Max do you want to come into the garage? “Yes” than you need socks on.
Do you want to go out with dad to work? “No” that’s ok Max be good I’ll be back.  If he says “yes” ok you need Levi’s and socks and shoes.     

I can’t stand giving kids options they don’t really have a choice on.    I can’t stand offering choices that they don’t need

At work this week I was asked to make some custom sample colors for cabinets and my first thought was “YES I can make some custom cool Shiz and everyone will love it” sat back a minute and thought wait.  If I give them a crazy eight-ten step stain process sample some lady will come in love it but not want to pay for it and I will have to repeat the time consuming process on a whole kitchen.   I have some simple color choices in the basic colors of blue, brown, red, grey, black and so forth and we will see what the price options will be for others before I make samples and hang them on the wall

Choices fellas choices.    I want a hot cup of coffee my morning shower and NO screaming kids to start my morning off with a headache


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Such is life. At some point you will look back and miss some of that screaming. That is why I was always up and out of the house before anyone else was awake.


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: stlaser on January 19, 2019, 09:35:07 AM
^^^^^^^ that’s how I rolled when they were little & screaming!  :likebutton:
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on January 28, 2019, 11:55:09 PM
I AM THE GUY THAT WILL MAKE YOU HIT THE BARRELS!!!!!  I HATE JACK ARSES THAT THINK THEY ARE SO ENTITLED AND BELIEVE THIS IS ACCEPTABLE!!!!
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on January 29, 2019, 12:01:24 AM
Dont get me started on those should have been swallowed or should have been stains individuals that cruise at the speed limit or under in the left lane .......or cant understand or fail to comprehend that you should be doing the speed limit once you come to the end of the on ramp and merge into traffic instead of making traffic slam on their breaks and move because of your moron-ness...... :facepalm:
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on January 29, 2019, 12:11:24 AM
That almost got me into a big one last week. Short ramp and all the cars in front of me looked to be merging, I pushed the go pedal, looked up and there (3 cars) were just rolling about 5mph into moving traffic! Pushed the stop pedal and slide between them and moving traffic, no room to go anywhere else.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Bear9350 on January 29, 2019, 07:59:37 AM
I've pushed somebody off the road before.  Coming into my hometown it says for a mile that the right lane ends.  Then it says the right lane is a turn right only lane.  Well they didn't want to slow down to merge behind me and didn't speed up to get in front of me (I continued travelling a couple of miles/ hour over the limit like I always did in that area), and we were traveling to fast for them to turn.  It was winter at the time and there was a pretty good bank of snow along the road.  I can still remember the snow chunks flying through the air when they hit that bank.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 29, 2019, 09:45:30 AM
My brother-in-law used his inclosed trailer to run some Subaru hippie into a guard rail on I-15.

Over the years I have noted that in Utah if you have a bicycle rack and I have a diesel truck the Subaru drive feels polarized to block the lane that you want to travel in.    Many times slowing down or speeding up for the purpose of blocking you.   
Well my brother in law had had enough of the road bike carrying Subaru driver and turned his turn signal on and merged to the left and put the Subaru into the wall. 
The police showed up a few days later to ask questions about the wreck,   He played dumb as he has many trailers and lots of trucks driving around.    He didn’t have anyone say anything to him but he would ask as trailers returned.  The cop thought that was fair enough and left it alone.

As for road rage I used to be very much the aggressor.   Their isn’t much of a better way to stop a idiot from bothering you like setting a full-size hand cannon on your dash in plain site for them to see


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on January 29, 2019, 12:31:04 PM
My tuck alone is big enough for my antics. Kids at my daughters HS like to force their way in when the lane ends, I don't let em.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Bob Smith on January 29, 2019, 02:00:50 PM
The signs say "lane ends merge left" The driver in that lane does in fact have to merge in front of some one right? As long as they are trying to merge safely, why not let them in?
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: EL TATE on January 29, 2019, 02:12:09 PM
I don't have a problem with letting them merge. It's the ones trying to ride it out till the end to pass everyone else that responsibly merged when the sign suggested, then create a new backup when they try to force their way over...
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on January 29, 2019, 02:27:24 PM
The signs say "lane ends merge left" The driver in that lane does in fact have to merge in front of some one right? As long as they are trying to merge safely, why not let them in?

Its a right turn lane only, no merge. No lane ahead just kids and crosswalks.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Bob Smith on January 29, 2019, 02:43:01 PM
I agree but... If everyone drove to the end of the lane and took turns merging things would be a lot smoother than all the movements that take place for the 1/4 mile before the lane ends slowing the left lane to a crawl and causing tempers to flare. I think concrete barriers, not just barrels or cones, between the two lanes from some point all the way down to the merge area would be a good traffic flow improvement,  keep both lanes moving at about the same pace, and just maybe keep the jerks in both lanes under control. Now the person that pays no attention to traffic at the on ramp and causes stop and go conditions should have to go to driver training.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on January 29, 2019, 02:50:25 PM
Just really an issue when everyone is in a hurry to get to school. See parents and kids doing it. Most just merge with no issue, some just go all the way to the end and cause the issue.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: EL TATE on January 29, 2019, 04:03:30 PM
Yup, someone's always more important that someone else. Just zipper in and out. I try to make it a point to let at least one person in front but I do get heated w/ the jack knob behind them forces their way in as well.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on January 29, 2019, 09:55:07 PM
I am the guy that will purposely block a lane with my big arse truck just so people cant get past me and cause the flow of traffic to slow
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on June 02, 2019, 08:12:43 PM
so....my question is, why are there so many just completely DUMB and STUPID people out there?!

why cant people just answer a pointed question with the required yes or no instead of trying to ask 10 questions in return?!

I am not a complicated man, I purposely ask pointed questions because I do not want to hear the drivel that spews from peoples oxygen thievery holes thinking that I really give a crap about what they are saying other than the answer to the pointed question that I asked them?!

 :knucklehead: :knucklehead: :knucklehead: :knucklehead: :knucklehead: :knucklehead: :knucklehead: :knucklehead: :knucklehead:


Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Bigdave_185 on June 02, 2019, 08:28:49 PM
Just sayin

Don is trying to open our safe space to these people lol


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on June 02, 2019, 09:29:14 PM
You just described a politician.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: TexasRedNeck on June 03, 2019, 08:11:49 PM
Here’s what’s bothering me.  Dems care more about obtaining power than our country.
http://video.foxnews.com/v/6042991471001


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on June 03, 2019, 10:41:33 PM
I heard about that today. Left coast city of course. If it were inmates, no expense would be spared!
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: oklawall on June 06, 2019, 09:52:58 AM
Alright my son E7 in the Air Force sent this to me and I have been smoking over it and I hope by sharing I may cool off some.

Subject: VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITY//CAR WASH//14 JUNE @ 1100

 

Good Morning Team Tinker!

 

 

The PRIDE Council which is the LGBTQ+ and Allies Official Organization of Tinker AFB is looking for 15-20 friendly and outgoing volunteers who would like to assist with a Car Wash. The proceeds of this fundraiser are going towards all LGBTQ+ Pride month events to include the upcoming LGBTQ+ Luncheon. Please refer below for more information.

 

Event: CAR WASH

Location: Santa Fe Restaurant (across the street from the Tinker)

When: June 14th

Time: 1100-1300

If you would like to volunteer or have any questions or concerns, please feel free to contact any of the POC’s below.

I could live with the "don't ask don't tell" policy but to have a "council" and to send it out to all E5 and E6 on base is so very wrong. Let alone makes me wonder if the told the business what in fact what this was for if they just said Tinker AFB. What ever I don't think that I will be eating at the chain ever again.

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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on June 06, 2019, 10:36:26 AM
so was this an email that your son intercepted?

I am a little confuzzled, sorry.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: oklawall on June 06, 2019, 10:42:44 AM
My son was a TSGT (E6) and was promoted on Monday so he was still on the mailing list. This email went out to all E5/ SSGT and E6/TSGT on the base, I would guess around 600 people in all

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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on June 06, 2019, 10:58:15 AM
does it say who the originator of the email was?

because my guess is, that some e5 or e6 went on to the tinker webmail directory and selected those people and sent out the email themselves. 

I would have your son report it to the base IG.  no action like this can come from the base command.

you as a civilian contractor who works on the base even has the right to go to the base IG as well as go to the base commander and have this investigated and explained.



Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: oklawall on June 06, 2019, 11:23:17 AM
The email came from a shared email account for that rank group and it had the originator name and email address along with the POC’S for the enlisted group. My son has forwarded the email to his 1st Sargent and Commander. I hope that they will take the correct action on this but if not the IG will get a copy of the email.

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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on June 06, 2019, 12:10:57 PM
I am with you, I hate when people try to use their job as a platform to push their garbage
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: EL TATE on June 06, 2019, 12:17:02 PM
we have several "no conforming" types at my place of employment. that being said, if I used company email even to give stuff away for free, I would be written up. seems like abuse of company resources would apply here too.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on June 06, 2019, 11:25:11 PM
That is so wrong! Celebrating LBGTAH stuff while curtaining what chaplains can do shows how sick even our military society is becoming. I found that the whole gay thing as well as women in combat arms carved away at what the military does.

Go to China for example. They are growing a strong and professional military. You come out as anything but a loyal comrade and you're likely to get imprisoned or worse. Those people are serious about clearing China's enemies (Us possibly) off the playing field. We need to get back to a total warrior mindset and to he__ with all this apology and social change stuff.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: oklawall on June 07, 2019, 07:56:02 AM
Well, just to fire everyone up this morning the response that the son received from his 1st Sgt and Commander: "We may not agree with this on a personal level but in the current culture this is the same as POW MIA, Black History or the many other events we celebrate each year." The son plans on sending it to the IG but doesn't think it will get much traction. I suggested 2 options 1) Do away with all these events/ weeks/ months. 2) Do away with all these events/ weeks/ months. unless they have a direct impact historical to the military. Think the Date the Air Force became a service of it's own and POW/MIA. Most of these events people are given time off work not charged leave and are I'm sure costing the military big bucks each year in lost productivity. I'm positive that there are very few supervisor that would say no if I wanted to go to a gay pride event because they would get reported on because of it. Who's idea was it to turn the military into some kind of social experiment? I'm sure happy that I retired when I did from active duty

Steve
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: cj7ox on June 07, 2019, 08:14:24 AM
Well, just to fire everyone up this morning the response that the son received from his 1st Sgt and Commander: "We may not agree with this on a personal level but in the current culture this is the same as POW MIA, Black History or the many other events we celebrate each year." The son plans on sending it to the IG but doesn't think it will get much traction. I suggested 2 options 1) Do away with all these events/ weeks/ months. 2) Do away with all these events/ weeks/ months. unless they have a direct impact historical to the military. Think the Date the Air Force became a service of it's own and POW/MIA. Most of these events people are given time off work not charged leave and are I'm sure costing the military big bucks each year in lost productivity. I'm positive that there are very few supervisor that would say no if I wanted to go to a gay pride event because they would get reported on because of it. Who's idea was it to turn the military into some kind of social experiment? I'm sure happy that I retired when I did from active duty

Steve
As an IG, I can tell you he won't get any traction by making an IG complaint unless the unit is forcing him to attend the "observance".
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on June 07, 2019, 11:56:42 AM
Well, just to fire everyone up this morning the response that the son received from his 1st Sgt and Commander: "We may not agree with this on a personal level but in the current culture this is the same as POW MIA, Black History or the many other events we celebrate each year." The son plans on sending it to the IG but doesn't think it will get much traction. I suggested 2 options 1) Do away with all these events/ weeks/ months. 2) Do away with all these events/ weeks/ months. unless they have a direct impact historical to the military. Think the Date the Air Force became a service of it's own and POW/MIA. Most of these events people are given time off work not charged leave and are I'm sure costing the military big bucks each year in lost productivity. I'm positive that there are very few supervisor that would say no if I wanted to go to a gay pride event because they would get reported on because of it. Who's idea was it to turn the military into some kind of social experiment? I'm sure happy that I retired when I did from active duty

Steve
As an IG, I can tell you he won't get any traction by making an IG complaint unless the unit is forcing him to attend the "observance".


sean, at what point does/will this violate the DOD policy of not using your position of being in the military for political gain, advancing your position or cause, etc?
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: cj7ox on June 07, 2019, 01:09:05 PM
Well, just to fire everyone up this morning the response that the son received from his 1st Sgt and Commander: "We may not agree with this on a personal level but in the current culture this is the same as POW MIA, Black History or the many other events we celebrate each year." The son plans on sending it to the IG but doesn't think it will get much traction. I suggested 2 options 1) Do away with all these events/ weeks/ months. 2) Do away with all these events/ weeks/ months. unless they have a direct impact historical to the military. Think the Date the Air Force became a service of it's own and POW/MIA. Most of these events people are given time off work not charged leave and are I'm sure costing the military big bucks each year in lost productivity. I'm positive that there are very few supervisor that would say no if I wanted to go to a gay pride event because they would get reported on because of it. Who's idea was it to turn the military into some kind of social experiment? I'm sure happy that I retired when I did from active duty

Steve
As an IG, I can tell you he won't get any traction by making an IG complaint unless the unit is forcing him to attend the "observance".


sean, at what point does/will this violate the DOD policy of not using your position of being in the military for political gain, advancing your position or cause, etc?

What I mean is it depends on the context of the quoted statement. EO observances are not mandatory. I’ll not comment on the the politics of the observances conducted. There are servicemen and women from all types, cultures, and backgrounds. I serve them all equally, without preconception or bias.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on June 07, 2019, 01:18:51 PM
Well, just to fire everyone up this morning the response that the son received from his 1st Sgt and Commander: "We may not agree with this on a personal level but in the current culture this is the same as POW MIA, Black History or the many other events we celebrate each year." The son plans on sending it to the IG but doesn't think it will get much traction. I suggested 2 options 1) Do away with all these events/ weeks/ months. 2) Do away with all these events/ weeks/ months. unless they have a direct impact historical to the military. Think the Date the Air Force became a service of it's own and POW/MIA. Most of these events people are given time off work not charged leave and are I'm sure costing the military big bucks each year in lost productivity. I'm positive that there are very few supervisor that would say no if I wanted to go to a gay pride event because they would get reported on because of it. Who's idea was it to turn the military into some kind of social experiment? I'm sure happy that I retired when I did from active duty

Steve
As an IG, I can tell you he won't get any traction by making an IG complaint unless the unit is forcing him to attend the "observance".


sean, at what point does/will this violate the DOD policy of not using your position of being in the military for political gain, advancing your position or cause, etc?

What I mean is it depends on the context of the quoted statement. EO observances are not mandatory. I’ll not comment on the the politics of the observances conducted. There are servicemen and women from all types, cultures, and backgrounds. I serve them all equally, without preconception or bias.

By no means would i ever put you into such a position.  I was asking more for clarification?
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: cj7ox on June 07, 2019, 01:28:19 PM
Like I said, depends on context.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on June 07, 2019, 01:40:25 PM
gotcha
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: oklawall on June 12, 2019, 08:11:41 AM

As an IG, I can tell you he won't get any traction by making an IG complaint unless the unit is forcing him to attend the "observance".

Sean was correct he got no traction. The request doesn't violate and current DOD policies.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on August 04, 2019, 12:01:45 AM
Its a sad loss of life....its the shartiest walmart in that town besides the west side one along I25.....i am glad i dont live in that shart hole anylonger!
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 04, 2019, 08:13:15 AM
And what will make it worse is that the tools at CNN MSNBC and others will try to pin it to “Donald Trumps racist hatred and immigration policies”


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: cj7ox on August 05, 2019, 04:53:36 AM
And what will make it worse is that the tools at CNN MSNBC and others will try to pin it to “Donald Trumps racist hatred and immigration policies”


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Agree. I think these events are more closely tied to our diminishing national mores, coupled with the "violence is never the answer" mantra. Repressed anger with no outlet is the cause, IMO. What really concerns me about these incidents is the lack of situational awareness of the people involved. The liberal media goes on and on about how nobody was concerned in EP because Texas is an open carry state. That's a load of BS. This dude walked in with an semi-auto AK, wearing earmuff type hearing protection! And nobody noticed until he opened fire? The guy in Ohio was wearing body armor. How does this not draw attention?
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on August 05, 2019, 05:34:27 PM
Isolated mentally ill people
That's who is doing the shooting for the most part
And what are the causes of mental illness?
Answer that question and I think we may start getting somewhere
With a society and culture going bonkers with God no where in the picture, anyone think we have firm ground from which to start to heal?
Spiritual world works like the physical world in this way
Create a partial vacuum by removing God and evil will flow in to balance the system
If I am learning anything with age, its that problems although they appear complex are really not. The answers are just too ugly or too much for us to face.
It's really just either good or evil
Right or wrong
I think things are really just that simple
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on August 05, 2019, 06:08:16 PM
Heard a lot about the isolation aspect today. I also think certain people can be isolated and lead to do certain things when enough will behind that.

With that in mind and being set on a path someone could be coerced in to doing something like this thinking is was right.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on August 05, 2019, 07:19:53 PM
Heard a lot about the isolation aspect today. I also think certain people can be isolated and lead to do certain things when enough will behind that.

With that in mind and being set on a path someone could be coerced in to doing something like this thinking is was right.
Exactly!

That and some street pharma is how those hajiis are convinced (For the most part) to blow themselves up
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 05, 2019, 08:50:58 PM
I think the widespread use of anti psychotic drugs is also a contributing factor.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Bob Smith on August 05, 2019, 10:00:35 PM
I am thinking it runs a lot deeper than the thinking going on right now by the Left side. Why is it that our laws are much too strict and we should be letting loose  many inmates to return to normal life? Why is it so important to think LGBT or whatever are normal and should be congratulated for their thinking. Why do we have to think or treat everyone as though they just made a simple small mistake and should be welcomed with open arms and helped as much as possible. Why do we have to think that just because the person robbed or broke into our home that some how it is our fault they acted that way and should not be punished for their actions. Why is there so many attorney represented people winning suites against the victims of so many crimes or providing freedom to the ones that caused the problem to start with. What is the real reason people think it is ok to open fire on people and the only way to stop it is to control the rest of us from enjoying the freedom we have had forever? Wake up and start punishing the few that want to rule the rest of us. Yes, let them hang or face the firing squad. Screw up and you will face the facts, not somehow be the victim of the crimes you committed .
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 05, 2019, 10:08:59 PM
Oh, silly Bob.  Stop making sense....
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Bob Smith on August 05, 2019, 10:21:05 PM
Sorry Tex...Tooo many IPA'S this evening I guess
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on August 06, 2019, 12:15:41 AM
Heard a lot about the isolation aspect today. I also think certain people can be isolated and lead to do certain things when enough will behind that.

With that in mind and being set on a path someone could be coerced in to doing something like this thinking is was right.
Exactly!

That and some street pharma is how those hajiis are convinced (For the most part) to blow themselves up

But they are really taught there whole life.

Wait, aren't we a lower class citizen since we want and own guns? Can't we get some legal/civil protection?
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: EL TATE on August 06, 2019, 11:03:04 AM
Several generations with a skewed sense of entitlement. Men attacking women because they feel rejected by other women. Irate customers screaming at employees when their direct decisions caused their problems and they know it, but screaming is how you get what you want right?
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: KensAuto on August 06, 2019, 11:52:43 AM
That last part Tate would get that person thrown out in the street at my place. It's happened before.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: EL TATE on August 06, 2019, 02:03:47 PM
I was just put into a team lead status here, and (I would call it a promotion but it's just more responsibility at the moment), one of my responsibilities is trying to reduce drag on the sales staff. get rid of issues customer service and tech and marketing can handle so they can focus on sales. in that regard I had to stop and listen into a conversation one of my seasoned pro's was having as he does not raise his voice ever and he was bordering on shouting; the customer had bought a locker off of Amazon's "scratch & dent" sale which is our product, sold by 3rd parties on amazon, sometimes returned product, used etc. they have a FIRM no return policy in exchange for saving in this case, $300. he had a problem with the internals on it, we spent several days trying to tech it out and warranty it for him but he could not produce an invoice (because he didn't buy it from us) and after swearing and berating my sales rep for 15 min for supporting amazons and randy's policy as he should he then tried to blackmail with the threat of blasting us on social media and negative product reviews, (on new items that are completely unrelated) just to deliberately injure and devalue us. I got on the phone and immediately explained to him that as a Christian, I would not tolerate his language and if he swore one more time he would be disconnected. He got quiet. I asked him if he had bought a used car from his neighbor, and it had problems, would you talk to your neighbor you bought the car from or go storming through Chevrolet's office demanding free repairs? after some back and forth I offered to make him a deal and send him parts that would fix his 75% off clearance/used locker at no cost if he promised never to call back again and figure out the installation on his own. haven't heard from him in a couple days now so fingers crossed.

This guy had to be at least 45-50 years old... I would expect this from a millennial but ??? Why should I have to be held hostage to an entitled POS that feels we owe him something? what self respecting man would complain about something he essentially got for free and had free trouble-shooting and tech help and customer assistance when he wasn't really ever a customer? Sorry to rant, just had me really fired up because for the most part our hands are tied with what we can say to these mouth breathers, and they have all the ammo when social media is populated with millions of these idiots, they all believe what's in front of them on the computer screen, regardless of the facts they are told. I just can't fathom this behavior...
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on August 06, 2019, 02:57:06 PM
I was just put into a team lead status here, and (I would call it a promotion but it's just more responsibility at the moment), one of my responsibilities is trying to reduce drag on the sales staff. get rid of issues customer service and tech and marketing can handle so they can focus on sales. in that regard I had to stop and listen into a conversation one of my seasoned pro's was having as he does not raise his voice ever and he was bordering on shouting; the customer had bought a locker off of Amazon's "scratch & dent" sale which is our product, sold by 3rd parties on amazon, sometimes returned product, used etc. they have a FIRM no return policy in exchange for saving in this case, $300. he had a problem with the internals on it, we spent several days trying to tech it out and warranty it for him but he could not produce an invoice (because he didn't buy it from us) and after swearing and berating my sales rep for 15 min for supporting amazons and randy's policy as he should he then tried to blackmail with the threat of blasting us on social media and negative product reviews, (on new items that are completely unrelated) just to deliberately injure and devalue us. I got on the phone and immediately explained to him that as a Christian, I would not tolerate his language and if he swore one more time he would be disconnected. He got quiet. I asked him if he had bought a used car from his neighbor, and it had problems, would you talk to your neighbor you bought the car from or go storming through Chevrolet's office demanding free repairs? after some back and forth I offered to make him a deal and send him parts that would fix his 75% off clearance/used locker at no cost if he promised never to call back again and figure out the installation on his own. haven't heard from him in a couple days now so fingers crossed.

This guy had to be at least 45-50 years old... I would expect this from a millennial but ??? Why should I have to be held hostage to an entitled POS that feels we owe him something? what self respecting man would complain about something he essentially got for free and had free trouble-shooting and tech help and customer assistance when he wasn't really ever a customer? Sorry to rant, just had me really fired up because for the most part our hands are tied with what we can say to these mouth breathers, and they have all the ammo when social media is populated with millions of these idiots, they all believe what's in front of them on the computer screen, regardless of the facts they are told. I just can't fathom this behavior...
Tater
I have another option you may not have considered
We all know this is going on, people acting as this dishonest person did
My money says that he will blast you anyway on whatever forum will give him a voice.
What I'd enjoy hearing is the conversation where your tech is making a logical case and this jerk is threatening. I'd add it to an entertainment tab called "Some fun and interesting calls"
Allow anyone to log on and listen in. Record all your calls for legal reasons then cherry pick as the need arises.
He would be shown in the course of time to someone familiar to his circles and then his peers would become his judge
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: cudakidd53 on August 07, 2019, 09:30:55 AM
I think the widespread use of anti psychotic drugs is also a contributing factor.

Some first hand experience with that Charles:

 My son was on one of those for a time-took himself off of it because of the way it made him feel. Case in point, when he would learn or hear of some tragedy, in his mind he would process “what those people had it Comin“.  Thank God he had the presence of mind to be able to process that that was not normal. Someone in the same situation for any length of time could certainly conceivably take it to the next step.  Certainly those types of drugs can be very beneficial, but it is such a delicate balance that in my sons case he never stuck with it for a long period of time because of the difficulty in finding the right balance and the side effects when it was not correctly balanced.

 I’m glad that in his case no one else was directly harmed.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: KensAuto on August 07, 2019, 12:10:40 PM
Tate, I feel for you and the team.
It might be a good time to get management to keep the cheaper products in house.
Title: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on August 12, 2019, 09:45:41 AM
so I really find this article funny because of the boo boo lipped butt hurt of these current and former senators, but on the other hand I also find things said in this article to be very disrespectful!

as don was saying in another post, when did it become ok for news channels and political figures or anybody for that matter to continuously and openly disrespect the name, title, position, whatever it is that comes with winning a democratic election for the position of President of the United States? 

But then as you read further on in the same run on sentence, former president bill Clinton and even his stooge of a wife former secretary of state Hillary clinton are referred to by their past titles!

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/booker-and-beto-blast-trump-for-retweeting-conspiracy-theory-linking-epsteins-death-to-clintons
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Post by: Nate on August 14, 2019, 02:50:06 PM
I guess this wont make the news either...………..

http://concealednation.org/2019/04/son-saves-family-of-6-takes-out-armed-home-invader-with-head-shot-while-sisters-hide-in-closet/?fbclid=IwAR1F4eboWfmrBWA_Ad4TCgRh66nR3oCXY8Y_XwHMju2Gi6ucDM5OHIu15bM
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Post by: JR on August 14, 2019, 02:59:14 PM
Be nice if Fox or similar would post it or some of them.
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Post by: Flyin6 on August 15, 2019, 09:05:05 AM
This whole concept of villainizing law enforcement is really just a sign of how far we have slid toward edge the clift. A creep who hates police will call 911 without thinking when they need help. Its difficult to understand why anyone would seek out a career in law enforcement, but I do get it...the sheep dog thing. Still, so unfair. But I think for everyone who doesn't like police, there are ten or more of us who do.

I think it has been going on for a long time, but seemed to come out of the closet when America's first gay president came out against the police early in his first term. Ever since that, cops have been unfairly scrutinized, unfairly treated, and the good that they do seldom or never reported. But, find one cop j-walking and the event is MSNBC/CNN front page news.

Most great nations really only flourished for about 150 years if you believe the words of Paul Harvey. With respect to the greatest nation ever, ours, it seems to be true. We are in decline if the measurement is based on just about any social metric. Our morals are awash, we have open hatred and we as a people are not all going in the same direction as one would a unified country would be. Our nation is rotting from within...
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 16, 2019, 06:09:08 AM
Maybe there needs to be a guardian angel type program. People harass the cops and the citizens take care business  Since the ROE for cops is so restrictive.


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Post by: JR on August 17, 2019, 12:25:33 PM
Now I hear they want to do away with posse comitatus here in Ca. Please don't ask for help, your on your own.
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Post by: Flyin6 on August 17, 2019, 01:30:33 PM
Now I hear they want to do away with posse comitatus here in Ca. Please don't ask for help, your on your own.
I see the people revolting, and frankly it needs to come sooner than later. I think this ultimately points to a possible succession of southern kali from the union, the formation of Jefferson, and some sort of struggle going on that consumes the LA/San Diego thing. Those poor folks in Orange county...Yikes
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Post by: Nate on October 24, 2019, 06:59:47 PM
What in the fark is this schiff..... :facepalm:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/always-is-removing-the-female-symbol-from-its-packaging-to-be-more-inclusive/
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Post by: JR on October 24, 2019, 07:09:03 PM
So what's new, bow down to the few, not the moral.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 24, 2019, 07:19:56 PM
Since you went there
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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on October 24, 2019, 08:11:17 PM
Thats funny
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Post by: Flyin6 on October 24, 2019, 08:21:02 PM
Gentlemen, do not let this or anything like it affect you

Just because 3/4 of the country is given in to this nonsense, hold your ground to remind folks what is normal, and serve as a light in the darkness when they come back.

On the other hand if they wander off, it's really not your problem.
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Post by: Nate on October 31, 2019, 10:35:29 AM
I will bet that this will become a race issue instead of dealing with the actual problem of undisciplined children, parents not being held responsible for their childrens actions and the safety and security of our teachers!

https://www.wdrb.com/news/wdrb-video/student-vs-teacher-fight-at-iroquois-high-school-underscores-district/video_2f475771-d810-5977-8a78-fdb5c92fa4f2.html
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Post by: Flyin6 on October 31, 2019, 10:58:23 AM
Louisville is not a favorite place for Kentuckians. Although some of it is nice, most of it is just inner city crap. That teacher had every right in the world to body slam that way out of line student punk.

I could go on for hours about why this is happening. It boils down to the absence of God in our lives and our institutions. Absence of God and all the good he is invites a vacuum which we witness is filled with hate, moral decay, lying to ourselves, and is reflected in children who are out of control. Out of control because of parents not doing their jobs of disciplining their kids. That point is made very clearly by the mother who seems blind to the fact that her son was cussing to an adult, and shoved the teacher.
Where's the responsibility for that? No we see this piss-poor mother citing protocol for dealing with disruptive students. Well, here's a clue. Just fix the disruptive student, no need for a policy.

In the case here, I would expel the student. Plenty of low paying jobs for that kid to do and think about the consequences for not following society norms.

In my independent school district, a student who makes a threat or assaults a faculty member is permanently removed from the school. We have a converted house where these school convicts go to finish their academic careers essentially doing nothing. Yes, they do not learn much or accomplish much, but the better good of keeping the other 99% of the kids in a learning environment is kept intact.

In this day and age, we will need to increasingly cull the population of people who clearly do not want to stick to acceptable cultural norms.
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Post by: Farmer Jon on November 15, 2019, 07:04:40 AM
There use to be 3 companies in the area that worked on Grain bins and grain handling equipment. One doubled as a welding shop that would fix just about anything. Then there was one other place you went to in a pinch. Until the goofball messed up our truck so bad we had to go to another shop. They had to cut the frame off at the back of the cab and start over. But thats another story.

This is going to get long and I cant explain it without naming names however I am changing the names. There use to be Matts welding. Our go to guy for all miscellaneous welding and some bin building. Triple J. Big company but went down hill over the past several years. The owners health and the kid not interested in running it. Then Andreesons. The best of the best in my opinion. Small company did great work. Then the goofball..

Somehow goofball got the money to buy out triple j. Well good for him. I guess we are not going there any more. That was a year or two ago. Now all of a sudden we hear they bought out Andreeson's. That was a surprise but not shocking. The guys are getting older and again the kids had no desire to keep it going.

The real kick in the butt came when Matt called. He said he couldn't do any more work. All his guys quit and went to work for goofball and he was retiring.

So we are stuck going to a guy that burned us. On the plus side now I know that they now have the personnel that know how to do things right.

I cant help thinking isn't this a monopoly?
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Post by: JR on November 15, 2019, 11:28:42 AM
Sounds like a soap opera,,,,,,
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Post by: oklawall on November 23, 2019, 09:52:01 PM
Back in September I had C4-6 fussed in my neck did PT and feel great, my left hand and arm is usable now and would do the surgery again. But!!!!! this #25 weight restriction is killing me! Great day to go out and do stuff but can lift anything! The wife still watches me like a hawk on lifting stuff.
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Post by: Nate on December 16, 2019, 09:01:34 PM
This is the supposed white power hand jesture that has  libtards all triggered..... :facepalm:
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Post by: Nate on December 16, 2019, 09:09:47 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3fterm=The%2bCircle%2bGame&amp=true
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on December 23, 2019, 11:51:47 AM

I am for sure tired of the Christmas gimie gimie gimie here at my house.  Need to find a option to break the cycle, so much of this buy me this I want that has been going around.   I continue to press for no gifts and more about time.   But.... wife is required to work excess OT this three weeks and I can’t seem to catch a break at the shop!!  Holidays are no longer fun

What do you all folks do to keep Christmas about Christ and not this commercial crap


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Post by: EL TATE on December 23, 2019, 01:34:14 PM
We do a few small gifts each year, nothing major, and do trips or experiences. Sam just moved out so he and the wife went on a trip to California, while Sophie and I had quality time together, and then we're all headed to Leavenworth just after the new year to spend 5 days together in the snow with Bavarian beer and brats, and no Christmas shopping, just Ice Fest fun. kinda the opposite of Canadian Sam's trip but you get the idea...
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Post by: Bob Smith on December 23, 2019, 02:16:39 PM
Have a safe trip Tate, have a couple for me. Our daughter is over there now for a week.
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Post by: Flyin6 on December 23, 2019, 05:49:26 PM

I am for sure tired of the Christmas gimie gimie gimie here at my house.  Need to find a option to break the cycle, so much of this buy me this I want that has been going around.   I continue to press for no gifts and more about time.   But.... wife is required to work excess OT this three weeks and I can’t seem to catch a break at the shop!!  Holidays are no longer fun

What do you all folks do to keep Christmas about Christ and not this commercial crap


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I put out an email to everyone stating that I would not be accepting any gifts this Christmas. I had a discussion with the family, far and wide and poked at the commercialism and stress of the season. I suggested nearly no gifting for anyone but the kids. Not sure how all this will roll out, but we have not done very much Christmas shopping so far and tomorrow is the 24th.
We plan to go to dinner Christmas eve, then a movie, then home. Tomorrow a simple dinner and "Hanging out together" and that will be it
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Post by: stlaser on December 23, 2019, 06:54:57 PM
Dave, it’s always been pretty stressful with both wife and I working a lot as kids were young. Kids grew up and we have different jobs which promote more time off around holidays (well her’s does anyhow) I just have one job currently instead of 2 or 3. She still does a lot for girls. Her and I not as much, however we plan a Christmas budget like back in July each year and try to stick to it (at least I try to have her do that). Then her and I try to do at least one small trip a year. Often times that involves her traveling for work and me meeting up at end of it for few days depending on location.
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on December 23, 2019, 08:05:39 PM
Dave, it’s always been pretty stressful with both wife and I working a lot as kids were young. Kids grew up and we have different jobs which promote more time off around holidays (well her’s does anyhow) I just have one job currently instead of 2 or 3. She still does a lot for girls. Her and I not as much, however we plan a Christmas budget like back in July each year and try to stick to it (at least I try to have her do that). Then her and I try to do at least one small trip a year. Often times that involves her traveling for work and me meeting up at end of it for few days depending on location.
I like The trip together idea, I asked this year but we had discussed the trip but she keeps telling me she wants the yard done ASAP!!!

I think we keep things here under wraps cost wise but it’s still just not the reason for the season so to speak. 


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: stlaser on December 23, 2019, 08:28:41 PM
Dave, it’s always been pretty stressful with both wife and I working a lot as kids were young. Kids grew up and we have different jobs which promote more time off around holidays (well her’s does anyhow) I just have one job currently instead of 2 or 3. She still does a lot for girls. Her and I not as much, however we plan a Christmas budget like back in July each year and try to stick to it (at least I try to have her do that). Then her and I try to do at least one small trip a year. Often times that involves her traveling for work and me meeting up at end of it for few days depending on location.
I like The trip together idea, I asked this year but we had discussed the trip but she keeps telling me she wants the yard done ASAP!!!

I think we keep things here under wraps cost wise but it’s still just not the reason for the season so to speak. 


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Yes, Christmas morning can be depressing after the kids blow through the presents. I’d advise giving more, get kids involved because there is nothing more about Christmas than giving. John 3:16
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on December 23, 2019, 08:44:26 PM

I am for sure tired of the Christmas gimie gimie gimie here at my house.  Need to find a option to break the cycle, so much of this buy me this I want that has been going around.   I continue to press for no gifts and more about time.   But.... wife is required to work excess OT this three weeks and I can’t seem to catch a break at the shop!!  Holidays are no longer fun

What do you all folks do to keep Christmas about Christ and not this commercial crap


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Dave I wont go too deep here,other than to say I don’t celebrate Christmas.  If you look into the history of it, its a catholic invention in the 4th century used to try to convert heathen Romans.  We are commanded to celebrate His death.  (I Cor 11:23) No where are we commanded to celebrate His birth.  When asked why, I simply state that I am not Catholic.  Problem solved.


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: stlaser on December 23, 2019, 08:49:07 PM
Charles, 4th century? Is this the story of St Nicholas? Just curious......
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on December 23, 2019, 09:15:08 PM
When the Catholics attempted to convert the Romans the Romans had a pagan celebration of Saturnalia in December. Catholics couldn’t get them to give up their pagan celebration so they conscripted it and claimed it was Christ’s birth.  Flocks were in the field during his birth. Not December by a long shot.  Most likely August or September timeframe but never the less. And the gift giving?  The wise men gave gifts to God, not each other.  The most precious things they had.  Gold, Frankincense, and Myrrh as recognition of His deity. 


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: stlaser on December 23, 2019, 09:20:03 PM
Thanks Charles
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on December 23, 2019, 10:44:41 PM
That’s is some true schiff right there.  No one gave gifts to each other just to God. Genius!!


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Post by: stlaser on December 23, 2019, 10:51:58 PM
That’s is some true schiff right there.  No one gave gifts to each other just to God. Genius!!


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Technically the gift was to all of human kind from God.
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Post by: oklawall on December 23, 2019, 10:56:27 PM
Here we get together as extended family on Christmas eve for dinner, this year it is finger food. Young kids get presents from extended family and adults play dirty Santa (not the cut throat version) with a $40 limit set. After that my family will go to a midnight service and go back to our house and bed. Next morning all kids get to open their presents the adults have drawn names and will exchange a gift for a $50 limit. The last 2 years I have made the present I gave. Around lunch time the family go and help at our towns community center with cooking and serving Christmas dinner to people in town.

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Post by: Farmer Jon on December 24, 2019, 11:10:36 AM
Dealing with someone who has had a stroke can be pretty difficult sometimes. I had a blow out with the boss last night. Over nothing.  Just having a conversation. He mentioned that somebody got some new trucks. I said yea I seen them. We should have gotten that kind instead of the Kenworths because they are so much lighter. Then he just went with no warning. Yelling you don't like anything I do it was your idea to get Kenworth and on and on and get out of my office. (it was his Idea to get them we just rolled with it) By now I'm getting kind of mad too. He was drinking when I got there I asked how much he had. One short glass of Windsor/water. I should have kept my mouth shut but I had to say that was plenty if he was going to act that way. Then he yelled some more Don't tell me what to do and called me some names and then I left.

 I have never seen that man raise his voice in the 18 years Ive been here. I seen him pretty dang mad but he does not cuss he does not yell. Until now apparently.

This morning over coffee it was like noting ever happened. Business as usual and hes coming over for Christmas eve dinner.

Its not just me. Hes gone off on some of his best friends also. I mean he got nasty and called them all kinds of names one day. They were just joking around with him like they always did.
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Post by: KensAuto on December 24, 2019, 01:35:39 PM
I'll pray for him Jon.
Been in your shoes. That's how I ended up getting my own shop after dedicating 22 years to my best friend and mentor. He started using coke for self medication. Accused me of stealing, etc. It's horrible having someone you love, more than anyone, turn on you.
I know it's hard, but try to hold on to him as best you can.
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Post by: Bob Smith on December 25, 2019, 11:41:19 PM
Jon, deep breaths when something triggers an episode. If this new activity continues or gets even worse, get him into the doctor for a check. Don’t take anything personal as he isn’t himself.
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Post by: Farmer Jon on December 26, 2019, 05:07:44 PM
Thanks Ken. And Bob I know he's not himself. Best to just walk away. It's hard to know what is going to set him off anymore.

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Post by: Nate on February 05, 2020, 10:13:55 PM
and let the triggering begin!
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: TexasRedNeck on February 06, 2020, 07:08:56 AM
What bothering me is Mitt Romney. If you want to know how to effect change, contribute to opposition to those that are traitors to your cause.  Support the recall election and who ever runs against a Romney


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Post by: Bigdave_185 on February 06, 2020, 08:40:58 AM
Agreed.  Not many folks her in Utah I have talked are happy.  Can’t think of a single person


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Post by: Flyin6 on February 06, 2020, 12:12:08 PM
What bothering me is Mitt Romney. If you want to know how to effect change, contribute to opposition to those that are traitors to your cause.  Support the recall election and who ever runs against a Romney


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A RINO is just a political form of a liar

Not an honorable person
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on February 11, 2020, 10:41:33 AM
I guess the english spellin/pronunciation of words is a foriegn concept for people..... :facepalm: :knucklehead:

How hard is it to say

Library

And not

Libary.......
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Post by: EL TATE on February 11, 2020, 11:51:43 AM
I guess the english spellin/pronunciation of words is a foriegn concept for people..... :facepalm: :knucklehead:

How hard is it to say

Library

And not

Libary.......

Lemme axe you dis queshun, you gotta probm wit da way I say libary?
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Post by: Sammconn on February 11, 2020, 11:54:13 AM
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on February 11, 2020, 12:45:07 PM
It's the small things

That

Drive people off the edge

I remember the headline,

"Husband kills wife over jelly doughnut"

Careful, Nate...Dangerous ground...
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: dave945 on February 11, 2020, 01:57:20 PM
Why was she standing over a jelly doughnut?  Was she trying to protect it from him?  What happened to the jelly doughnut for gosh sakes!?!??  I need to know!!!


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on February 11, 2020, 02:05:24 PM
Whats sad about the whole situation is....

The instructor that is teaching this class has a masters deg (must have gotten the lobotomy with it) in education and graphic computer design.....
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Post by: Nate on February 11, 2020, 02:06:31 PM
But i guess her being from san diego, commiefornia makes it ok
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Post by: EL TATE on February 11, 2020, 02:15:13 PM
Why was she standing over a jelly doughnut?  Was she trying to protect it from him?  What happened to the jelly doughnut for gosh sakes!?!??  I need to know!!!


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Don't worry Dave, the doughnut was taken into protective custody by some very nice police officers, who I'm SURE would never eat said doughnut...
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Post by: stlaser on February 11, 2020, 04:49:44 PM
Then the question must be asked, was there ever donut in the first place?
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Post by: EL TATE on February 11, 2020, 05:45:37 PM
The veiled threat of jelly doughnuts is enough for global war Shawn. it doesn't need to be there, it only needs to be mentioned. and like that... he's gone!
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on February 11, 2020, 09:28:40 PM
Why was she standing over a jelly doughnut?  Was she trying to protect it from him?  What happened to the jelly doughnut for gosh sakes!?!??  I need to know!!!


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That was never revealed...Guess it will remain one of mankind's great unsolved mysteries ;-)
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on February 12, 2020, 09:36:53 AM
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I listen to this moron speak, and he repeatedly says "Let's change this nation." Change to what? (Well we all know to what) But who'd want to change the greatest nation on earth? I mean aren't things mostly good? Aren't we mostly free? We still have guns, right? We can still decide our trajectory in life, right? We have a life of abundance, right? Well all those things and millions of others are because of the right!
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on February 12, 2020, 02:39:31 PM
I think the greatest part of what we are now is.   Any slug of a person who truly works.  Take a yard care business.  One mower and a set of hands can turn his business into a company.   Joe blow landscape.  With hard work, clean yards gain clients, build a business hire more folks and soon he is above middle class

Under the other proposed its not anything anyone will be doing.   Everyone sinks into doing just enough.   

AMERICA!!!


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on April 02, 2020, 06:59:14 PM
I am glad this weak piece of garbage has been relieved!!!!

https://www.foxnews.com/us/uss-theodore-roosevelt-commanding-officer-relieved
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on April 02, 2020, 07:06:07 PM
I am glad this weak piece of garbage has been relieved!!!!

https://www.foxnews.com/us/uss-theodore-roosevelt-commanding-officer-relieved
I don't know the circumstances but from a distance I have to agree. Captain of a nuclear weapon carrying capital ship and he's winning about sick sailors and begging for help?
You do your job and you hope you get help. But if you don't, you do your job.

We are looking at Obama era officers here. The killer instinct replaced by the "I need my safe room" crowd.

I can just imagine the Marines and Seals onboard wanted to toss the wimp overboard.
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Post by: Nate on April 02, 2020, 08:20:26 PM
I remember watching the national news piece monday or tuesday evening where they were trying to grill the secdef about this and trying to get him to comment on it.....and he told them that he trusts that sailors chain of command and promptly changed the subject on them 2 or 3 times after that....lol

I commented to wendy when she got home and she didnt believe me when i told her that he would be relieved of command with in 2 days max.....
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: TexasRedNeck on April 03, 2020, 08:45:51 AM
So what does that mean to be relieved of command?  Demotion? Kicked out? Loss of pension and benefits?

I’m sure CNN will hire him to be a “commentator” and bash Trump


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: TexasRedNeck on April 03, 2020, 08:58:41 AM
Epic stupid


https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/man-tried-to-derail-train-to-wreck-navy-hospital-ship-mercy-over-coronavirus-suspicions-feds-say/2339287/


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on April 03, 2020, 09:46:26 AM
So what does that mean to be relieved of command?  Demotion? Kicked out? Loss of pension and benefits?

I’m sure CNN will hire him to be a “commentator” and bash Trump


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in this case he wont be demoted, but he will be hidden somewhere until this blows over and then he will be told "have a nice day, thanks for your service, enjoy your retirement!"

but to answer your question "what does it mean to be relieved of command" Charles....imagine if David Wichmann came to your office personally and told you to collect your personal effects and you that you have 10 minutes to turn your badge in and leave the building and never to return!





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Post by: KensAuto on April 03, 2020, 10:11:42 AM
Epic stupid


https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/man-tried-to-derail-train-to-wreck-navy-hospital-ship-mercy-over-coronavirus-suspicions-feds-say/2339287/


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Wow.

Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: cj7ox on April 03, 2020, 11:47:18 AM
So what does that mean to be relieved of command?  Demotion? Kicked out? Loss of pension and benefits?

At the O-6 level (his paygrade), it means career over...hang out for a bit while we determine if we will take punitive action, and if not, welcome to retirement.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on April 03, 2020, 12:00:29 PM
So what does that mean to be relieved of command?  Demotion? Kicked out? Loss of pension and benefits?

I’m sure CNN will hire him to be a “commentator” and bash Trump


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in this case he wont be demoted, but he will be hidden somewhere until this blows over and then he will be told "have a nice day, thanks for your service, enjoy your retirement!"

but to answer your question "what does it mean to be relieved of command" Charles....imagine if David Wichmann came to your office personally and told you to collect your personal effects and you that you have 10 minutes to turn your badge in and leave the building and never to return!
Lol. Nice way to relate it. Except Dave would send someone else to do it for him.


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on April 03, 2020, 12:02:04 PM
So what does that mean to be relieved of command?  Demotion? Kicked out? Loss of pension and benefits?

I’m sure CNN will hire him to be a “commentator” and bash Trump


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in this case he wont be demoted, but he will be hidden somewhere until this blows over and then he will be told "have a nice day, thanks for your service, enjoy your retirement!"

but to answer your question "what does it mean to be relieved of command" Charles....imagine if David Wichmann came to your office personally and told you to collect your personal effects and you that you have 10 minutes to turn your badge in and leave the building and never to return!
Lol. Nice way to relate it. Except Dave would send someone else to do it for him.


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lol
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on April 04, 2020, 08:41:40 AM
I am officially going to loose my mind with the virus I think, I can’t make a quick trip to get anything anywhere, it has become a production.

Not saying I am the only person in this state who has things to do.  Just saying I only care about mine at the moment.

One piece of 3 inch pipe and I was up at 5:30 to get it at the local HD.   What a giant pain in the butt


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: stlaser on April 04, 2020, 08:46:46 AM
Dave, HD is open all day what’s the issue?  :tongue:
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on April 04, 2020, 08:57:40 AM
Open 6-6 and only allowing a certain number of customers in at a time, now with ever home owner bob off work or working from it’s just inconveniencing me and I oddly don’t like it.   


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: stlaser on April 04, 2020, 09:20:02 AM
I was at hd last sat and they definitely weren’t rationing people in the store....  :rolleyes:

They should have been though, but maybe just take a step back and breathe Dave. I get it the virus sucks but these are the same conversations I’m having with my 18 year old daily about not seeing her bf. At least we don’t live in ny city where they’re stacking bodies in back of refer trucks. Things are going to move a bit slower for awhile but we have a lot to be grateful for in the big picture. Be good
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: oklawall on April 04, 2020, 01:47:11 PM
you could move to rural Oklahoma the hardware store in our town (he doesn't have lumber) but he will drop what ever you need off at the house after work or even on a maxed out day he may only have 5 people in the store. Even if he is closed he will come in and open the store up for you. Love small town USA
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on April 04, 2020, 02:21:32 PM
I like that idea


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Title: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on May 05, 2020, 12:08:39 PM
how many of you are familiar with section 326 of the patriot act?

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/PLAW-107publ56/pdf/PLAW-107publ56.pdf

how many of you are familiar with the bank securities act of 1970?

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/STATUTE-84/pdf/STATUTE-84-Pg1114-2.pdf

https://www.occ.treas.gov/topics/supervision-and-examination/bsa/index-bsa.html

how many of you are familiar with the SEC record keeping requirements?

https://www.sec.gov/fast-answers/answersbd-persinfohtm.html

how many people are familiar with FinCEN (financial crimes enforcement network)

https://www.fincen.gov/

how many of you are familiar with the KYC rules which encompasses the CIP requirements of the patriot act and also incorporates a program that they call CDD (conducting due diligence) ?

https://fin.plaid.com/articles/kyc-basics/

why are financial and INS companies and institutions want your employment and education history/information?

https://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/finance/how-your-job-title-could-cost-you/

here is just some food for thought...….

 





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Post by: TexasRedNeck on May 05, 2020, 09:11:54 PM
Yes, yes, yes, yes, and oh yeah.

What baked my noodle was paying cash for a vehicle they still wanted your ss#


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Farmer Jon on May 06, 2020, 12:38:00 PM
When I paid cash for my truck all they needed was my driver's license.

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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Farmer Jon on May 06, 2020, 12:39:08 PM
I'm not familiar with any of that Nate. Looks like I have some homework to do.

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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: TexasRedNeck on May 06, 2020, 08:41:34 PM
John it depends on the $ amount. Above a certain amount they wanted my ss


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Title: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on May 17, 2020, 09:20:18 PM
If you are the piece of schiff that uses one of these to hang anything in drywall....you are an oxygen thief and need to go and prevent yourself from procreating and causing the rest of us from having to deal with your worthless uneducated filthy spawn!!!!
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: TexasRedNeck on May 17, 2020, 09:25:08 PM
And what seems to be the problem, Nate?


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: stlaser on May 17, 2020, 09:30:25 PM
Well, I use them Nate. What’s the issue?

I only use them for heavier items, we use T pins stuck in at a downward angle for light stuff.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on May 17, 2020, 09:39:41 PM
Are you asking about the morons who can supposedly use a drill and a screwdriver to put one of those in a wall VS using a drill and a screwdriver to put one of these in the wall instead!

Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on May 17, 2020, 10:03:33 PM
You don't use a drill with those. Yes, I us em too, but studs are better,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on May 17, 2020, 10:27:44 PM
Too much coffee, Nate?
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: stlaser on May 17, 2020, 10:35:39 PM
I’ve used both Nate, I prefer the plastic units.  :tongue:
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: TexasRedNeck on May 17, 2020, 10:37:15 PM
I’ve hung plasma TVs on the wall with those. Work great if you use the right size


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Bigdave_185 on May 17, 2020, 10:45:54 PM
While not my preferred method.... I two have used them, I would much rather find a stud or back the drywall with 2x10 to hand towel bars on. But that’s not always an option.   So yeah. Sorry sounds like your out numbered Nate


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: stlaser on May 17, 2020, 10:59:30 PM
Nate, dare to walk on the dark side.......  :evil:
Title: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on May 18, 2020, 07:57:19 AM
 :knucklehead:  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on May 18, 2020, 08:41:13 AM
Nate, dare to walk on the dark side.......  :evil:
Stop temptin' him!
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: oklawall on May 21, 2020, 07:43:13 PM
My state (Oklahoma) just passed and the governor signed it into law a "Anti Red Flag law". Which don't get me wrong I am thankful for that law but why do we need a law to protect several constitutional rights?  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: KensAuto on May 22, 2020, 12:16:16 AM
Nate, toggle anchors suck!

I much prefer the ones you hate.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on May 22, 2020, 08:43:52 AM
My state (Oklahoma) just passed and the governor signed it into law a "Anti Red Flag law". Which don't get me wrong I am thankful for that law but why do we need a law to protect several constitutional rights?  :lipsrsealed:

I hated Oklahoma for a long time, they have started to come around a bit in the last 10 years or so.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on May 22, 2020, 08:45:09 AM
 :facepalm:  the rest of you are just haters!!! 
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: dave945 on May 22, 2020, 11:55:49 AM
How about those zip toggle bolts?  I’ve gotten to like them for when I would have been cursing toggles before and seem to hold better than the screw in ones.

https://www.amazon.com/Simpson-Strong-Tie-FT18250C25-FlipToggle-Anchor/dp/B071KVPJM7


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on May 22, 2020, 12:22:20 PM
How about those zip toggle bolts?  I’ve gotten to like them for when I would have been cursing toggles before and seem to hold better than the screw in ones.

https://www.amazon.com/Simpson-Strong-Tie-FT18250C25-FlipToggle-Anchor/dp/B071KVPJM7


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That what the Air Force uses to hold their aged fleet together?

Funny one right there

Talkin about the "Old" fleet...

The Armee uses paint to hold our stuff together!

The Navee some rust converter...

I have no idea why I started this, nor where I'm going with it

Disregard...
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: dave945 on May 22, 2020, 12:50:23 PM
Maybe so, but we know for sure the army uses masking tape to hold the aging aviators together. :p
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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on May 22, 2020, 09:20:51 PM
Maybe so, but we know for sure the army uses masking tape to hold the aging aviators together. :p
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They do indeed!
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Post by: JR on May 23, 2020, 10:03:41 PM
 :popcorn:
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Post by: BobbyB on May 24, 2020, 02:38:03 PM
Maybe so, but we know for sure the army uses masking tape to hold the aging aviators together. :p

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False, that tape isn't green.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: dave945 on May 24, 2020, 04:09:51 PM
Maybe so, but we know for sure the army uses masking tape to hold the aging aviators together. :p

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False, that tape isn't green.

That’s because army aviators secretly all want to be Air Force!!!!!!


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on May 24, 2020, 06:03:33 PM
Maybe so, but we know for sure the army uses masking tape to hold the aging aviators together. :p

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False, that tape isn't green.

That’s because army aviators secretly all want to be Air Force!!!!!!


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I don't think you'll find much agreement in our ranks with that statement Dave, but nice try!
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Post by: oklawall on May 25, 2020, 10:44:45 AM
Maybe so, but we know for sure the army uses masking tape to hold the aging aviators together. :p

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False, that tape isn't green.

That’s because army aviators secretly all want to be Air Force!!!!!!


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I'm with Dave on this one
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Farmer Jon on May 29, 2020, 07:26:30 AM
So now we are getting in trouble at work for doing things that we were told its OK to do.  Every morning we sit in the office and have a little meeting. We run everything by the boss before we do anything because of the way hes been. Now he is forgetting entire conversations and then accusing us of making up stories. Claiming he was never in that discussion. Well then who the heck was sitting in the chair behind the desk?
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on May 29, 2020, 08:07:24 AM
To bad. Time to record or give up the meetings?
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on May 29, 2020, 08:56:10 AM
This...
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on June 17, 2020, 08:58:09 AM
so this morning is starting off like a huge pile of steaming hot diarrhea Schiff!!!!

i got to sleep in a little because Tuesdays and Wednesdays are my work from home days.  which means i don't have to get up early to scrub the stankin areas and get all dressed up to impress somebody that i don't care about and has no bearing on wheteher or not my career stalls or moves forward.  but I digress.... :facepalm:

So i woke up and went into the kitchen to get my morning coffee and to feed maynard.  well murphy gave me a big ol F.U.!  it seems that i forgot to put the carafe for the coffee pot back into the machine and the built in safety stop switch decided to stop working.  so i had an entire pot of coffee and grounds all over the counter top, all down the front of the cabinets, a good 5ft x 5ft section of hardwood floor was swimming, all of the drawers and lazysusan had coffee in them.... :facepalm:

and all i wanted to do was wake up and with total quietness sit with my face in some free cell solitaire before it was time to log on and learn for the day!   
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on June 17, 2020, 10:13:47 AM
wow.  that sucks.  cant function without the first cup of the day.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on June 17, 2020, 11:20:03 AM
I don't function at all early unless I have to.
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on June 17, 2020, 11:47:42 AM
I’d go back to bed f all that


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: cj7ox on June 17, 2020, 02:44:52 PM
Murphy really had you in his sights this morning, Nate! That sucks, Brother!
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Farmer Jon on June 18, 2020, 07:33:09 AM
Ive done that before. Didn't get the pot all the way in. Now my wife sets the coffee for me. I guess its easier than getting up at 5 am to help clean a huge mess.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on June 18, 2020, 08:24:51 AM
Ive done that before. Didn't get the pot all the way in. Now my wife sets the coffee for me. I guess its easier than getting up at 5 am to help clean a huge mess.

sad thing is, I am the one that always sets it.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on June 18, 2020, 11:16:18 AM
Thata Sad, I'm going to mickyD for a cup of coffee,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: BobbyB on June 18, 2020, 08:03:31 PM
I haven't had a cup of coffee before work in a few weeks. Even though my gf asks if I want her to make me some. Apparently I'm just used to struggle bussing in the morning.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on June 22, 2020, 05:00:53 PM
No one here seems to care about all that wasted quoffee!

Focus folks, focus!

Sorree Nate!
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Sammconn on June 22, 2020, 09:41:26 PM
Yeah. Wasted quoffee not so beuno.

Funny story.
About 20 odd years ago, no more, wasn’t married yet.
Wife’s cousin is visiting. He’d be a few years younger than us.
19 or so at the time I’d suspect.
Anywho, Teddy was visiting for a couple weeks in the summer.
I had busted the 12 cup carafe for our machine, and was sporting a six cupper.
Teddy in a sleepy stupor, wanted more than six cups.
Poured in two pots he did, added he sufficient grounds for 12 and pressed go.
He went out for his morning smoke and came in to coffee all over the kitchen.   

So worse than the safety not workin, he had to splain that bonehead move.

 :knucklehead: :knucklehead:
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: TexasRedNeck on June 22, 2020, 10:48:30 PM
So along those lines, my Kuerig is next to the kitchen door at the hide.  A few times would put in the pod and press brew and put my eco friendly styrofoam cup under the outlet only to come back in and find the cup on the floor and coffee everywhere.


Took me a while to figure out but I learned as I shut the door leaving the house the wind from the door shutting the door blew the empty styrofoam off the brewer.....


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: oklawall on July 13, 2020, 06:35:58 AM
I demand names and addresses for the engineers involved in the battery placement in the Ford escape! Old fat guys shouldn't have to be outside in 100 degree heat taking the cowl, drip tray and wiper arms off just to get at a battery. Then not be smart enough to listen to the little voice in your head and replace the battery cable while you are in there.

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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: TexasRedNeck on July 15, 2020, 07:36:57 AM
https://youtu.be/_OOXuYhwktY

Truth right here.


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on July 15, 2020, 04:15:31 PM
Boy I loved that, subscribed too.

Funny, I just unloaded on the BSA on a survey. Got it off my chest, "ITS BOY SCOUTS!"
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on February 10, 2021, 08:21:41 PM
I am sick and tired of all these companies and their farking good idea faries on how to keep the morons from killing themselves and letting evolution take its course!!!!

Heres 2 examples for you:

1. You can no longer buy a 15 amp residential outlet without it being tamper resistant.  Think im kidding....go to your local big box store and not a contractor supply house (where you have to show a contractor license to buy there) and take a walk down the outlet isle and look at all of the "TR" emblems there are.

2. Every portable propane heater now comes with oxygen sensors and 30 degree tilt sensors that turn the unit off.  Makes it worse when the brand new unit you buy does not work because of the way it was shipped and you have to call the manufacturer and listen to their drivel, but then they slip-up and tell you how to completely bypass their crap......
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Bob Smith on February 10, 2021, 09:37:24 PM
I think the tilt sensor is a good idea and should be required on all portable heaters. Lots of ways for a small heater to end up face down.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on February 10, 2021, 09:49:34 PM
I think the tilt sensor is a good idea and should be required on all portable heaters. Lots of ways for a small heater to end up face down.

I can honestly agree with you bob....what i have issue with is just how un-user friendly they are. 

Like stated above, when you as the user has to call the manufacturer just to have them tell you that you have to re-calibrate their poor design cut off switch, and not have it work.

then have to modify it so that it does work.... :facepalm:

Title: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: TexasRedNeck on February 10, 2021, 09:53:54 PM
Hmmm. Ive installed about 16 duplex outlets recently and 15 amp were no problem but the 20 amp were TR


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Bigdave_185 on February 11, 2021, 12:06:23 AM
My local hd has non tamp plugs. Just purchased last week


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: TexasRedNeck on February 13, 2021, 07:18:09 PM
Here is what’s bothering me.

7 republican turn coats that I will work to primary in their next election.

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Impeachment is to remove from office.  It is unconstitutional to use it to punish a former president and it was a sham since the SCOTUS Chief Justice did not preside.

And on top of it they clearly didnt read the transcript of Trump’s speach.  And the MSM and dems edited out the part where Trump said to go peacefully.

If every Trump voter sent just $5 to each of the challenges in these traitors next election they would be out on their butt so fast.

I will update with their next election cycle and their primary challenger.

Game on!


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: TexasRedNeck on February 13, 2021, 07:27:37 PM
Burr is up for election in 2022
Cassidy was just re-elected in 2020 so he wont be up until 2026 ( I hope the LA citizens recall him)
Collins is not up until 2026
Romney will be up in 2024
Murkowski is up for election in 2022
Toomey is up in 2022 but says he won’t run again
Sasse is up for election in 2026


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on February 13, 2021, 07:32:43 PM
Please TRN, don't let FACTs get in the way.

I don't think they could handle it if real Americans showed up with the intent of being radical. (disclaimer) I am not advocating violence.

Real Americans/Patriots will only take abuse so long. As I tell my kids and others, you don't want to see me really mad,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Farmer Jon on February 13, 2021, 08:30:30 PM
I hate Ben Sasse with a passion. All my friends that stuck up for him during his reelection are pretty quiet right now.  Hes a fake and phony from the word go. Just like our lair governor Rickets.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on February 14, 2021, 09:59:58 AM
I'll post this in a prominent place to remind
and if you all want
This site will sponsor the effort to primary in each case
I'll supply a donation point
That way RealMan will be the source of the money, keeping all of your names in the dark
I'll send that in to the opposing candidate in each case

Sound good?
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Bigdave_185 on February 14, 2021, 12:10:34 PM
I would really like to hope Romney gets the hatchet but I bet he doesn’t. This state is changing very drastically

I’d put into the group payment to dump these bums


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on February 14, 2021, 03:09:45 PM
I would really like to hope Romney gets the hatchet but I bet he doesn’t. This state is changing very drastically

I’d put into the group payment to dump these bums


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Good.
Assuming we aren't fighting Antifa, errr, meant to say, the armed wing of the demoncratic party in our neighborhoods by then, The first race/rat is 2022. See you all there for that
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on February 16, 2021, 09:05:02 PM
This Reconciliation crap congress is pulling. It gave us obumer care and the new 1.9t bill has $500m for foreign gov and gun control in it.

My gun control is fine, point, shoot, fall!!
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on March 10, 2021, 02:26:34 PM
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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Farmer Jon on May 15, 2021, 08:07:17 AM
A new guy started hauling with us this week. Another owner operator. This guy is mouthy and wont listen. He dont listen to the trainer then actually threatened to kick his butt. Trainer at that point said figure it out on your own.
 There is a very specific procedure to follow at the steel mill we deliver to. Everything from the verbiage you use to check in to how and where you dump. This guy just wont learn he is getting chewed out by the loader operators as well as other truckers coming in. I would have canned him the second day. That guy that trained us did a good job with me. But, I actually  listened and took notes. He explained to me that we do XYZ this way and this way only. OK. after 3 weeks I slowly learned why we do it that way. This new guy does whatever and gets yelled at on the radio. Then hes all butt hurt and why cant I do that. Other truckers really get on to him. By the end of the week it has just become comical for me to listen to them.
 Ive become friends with the trainer and I'm trying to help the new guy some but I have to listen to them complain about each other. I'm like hey guys If wanted drama in my life would still be with my first wife. Whatever is going on is your problem not mine. I'm here to make money not to get involved in your BS.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: stlaser on May 15, 2021, 08:16:10 AM
...

Close Nate, cut the pig in half and you’d be spot on.....
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on May 15, 2021, 08:46:04 AM
A new guy started hauling with us this week. Another owner operator. This guy is mouthy and wont listen. He dont listen to the trainer then actually threatened to kick his butt. Trainer at that point said figure it out on your own.
 There is a very specific procedure to follow at the steel mill we deliver to. Everything from the verbiage you use to check in to how and where you dump. This guy just wont learn he is getting chewed out by the loader operators as well as other truckers coming in. I would have canned him the second day. That guy that trained us did a good job with me. But, I actually  listened and took notes. He explained to me that we do XYZ this way and this way only. OK. after 3 weeks I slowly learned why we do it that way. This new guy does whatever and gets yelled at on the radio. Then hes all butt hurt and why cant I do that. Other truckers really get on to him. By the end of the week it has just become comical for me to listen to them.
 Ive become friends with the trainer and I'm trying to help the new guy some but I have to listen to them complain about each other. I'm like hey guys If wanted drama in my life would still be with my first wife. Whatever is going on is your problem not mine. I'm here to make money not to get involved in your BS.
What you have here is an opportunity
Anger and disobedience are not things of the kingdom, they are things of the world and the devil.
If you don't want to help him or don't really care, then just continue mission (CM) and let the guy burn himself down.
But
If you chose to take the higher path, then you have to shine
You do that by being rooted in truth, both in our Lord and the rules of man, in this case the rules of this steel mill.
You are not harsh and when critical, you deliver it in a helpful way, but you never deviate from the truth.
Never compromise on the truth or doing what's right. None of this, well, you can get away with xxx______xxxing. None of that
Be strong, resting on the rock, the same one he is slamming into on a regular basis, beating himself up.
Next keep him in prayer
Ask the father to open a door and give this man a mind open to suggestion, then have him come to you. If all is right and you are the guy I am suggesting you be, he will see it. Heck, everyone will. If God chooses to send this man to you, then God will provide your mind and mouth with the right things to say. You can only reach a man when he is nearly broken and receptive. A man is a very strong thing, one not easily broken. God made us this way. I don't know why, but I'll bet it has something to do with survival, and something to do with choice. You see, if a strong man would set himself aside, lay down his very life and surrender it to the father, then it is real love. And I believe that is what God wants and maybe even needs from us, our love.
I think this tinder box was set in your path. I think that was step two. I think step one was you being a Christian. God put the two of you together in this situation. Next you thought of sharing it with us. And who are we? Broken men who love God, worship Jesus and are packing the messenger.
When this arrived in this place, Godly men no doubt started praying over him/you/this. Some of us may respond, but, you can see, things have been happening and things are happening. I'd suggest you prepare for what is about to happen!
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Farmer Jon on May 16, 2021, 08:53:05 AM
I have decided to try to help him when I can. If he will listen. People helped me when I needed it. Its good Karma.  However, I am a believer in the phrase "God helps those who help themselves." If the lord has given you men to guide you and your refuse the guidance you will suffer the circumstances. If he takes my advice then thats good. If he chooses to ignore me then it will be as you said above, Continue Mission. 


Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: stlaser on May 16, 2021, 09:20:16 AM
My granddad who raised his two boys, my second cousin and then guided me in my early adulthood had a saying. Not sure if it’s appropriate but maybe a variation of it would be.

“I’m not trying to tell you how to do that but”

It essentially guilted me into listening when I was being stubborn.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: KensAuto on May 16, 2021, 09:31:20 AM
My granddad who raised his two boys, my second cousin and then guided me in my early adulthood had a saying. Not sure if it’s appropriate but maybe a variation of it would be.

“I’m not trying to tell you how to do that but”

It essentially guilted me into listening when I was being stubborn.
I use that at work, kinda.
"I'm not saying you're stupid, but..."
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on May 16, 2021, 09:39:32 AM
I have decided to try to help him when I can. If he will listen. People helped me when I needed it. Its good Karma.  However, I am a believer in the phrase "God helps those who help themselves." If the lord has given you men to guide you and your refuse the guidance you will suffer the circumstances. If he takes my advice then thats good. If he chooses to ignore me then it will be as you said above, Continue Mission. 



God does help those who help themselves
But
He helps the helpless too.
Remember the woman at the well bible story?
Or how about the woman who was about to be stoned to death...??? I'd say she was pretty helpless, but he stepped in and saved her life
Grace
Grace extends to cover anyone, everyone, a safety net that is always there should you choose to use it.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on May 16, 2021, 09:41:35 AM
My granddad who raised his two boys, my second cousin and then guided me in my early adulthood had a saying. Not sure if it’s appropriate but maybe a variation of it would be.

“I’m not trying to tell you how to do that but”

It essentially guilted me into listening when I was being stubborn.
I use that at work, kinda.
"I'm not saying you're stupid, but..."
Was your dad an instructor pilot at the US Army flight school?
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: EL TATE on May 17, 2021, 05:15:31 PM
My granddad who raised his two boys, my second cousin and then guided me in my early adulthood had a saying. Not sure if it’s appropriate but maybe a variation of it would be.

“I’m not trying to tell you how to do that but”

It essentially guilted me into listening when I was being stubborn.

Dad and Grandpa had the same teaching structure; "go prep and paint that trim on the back wall. whoa! not like that, we're not painting a piano here!" (which would get me to ask questions, something I should have known to do at the beginning but didn't.) then they'd always follow it up with "better to double check than to guess and get it wrong"
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: oklawall on May 31, 2021, 09:42:27 AM
So too much coffee rain moving so I hurt and I have a brain. Most days I'm up and out of the house between 4:00-4:30 so the news I watch mostly is AG report and weather and just don't watch evening or main stream media. This morning I watched the news with the wife, big mistake! First off even before the news I felt that the president was trying to cheapen Memorial day with the lower to half staff of the flag for the shoot in California, which I didn't lower my flag. I did go out and  lowered it to half staff for Memorial day. Back to the CBS news Memorial day was even mentioned until the 3rd story. #1 was the Democrat blocking the voting requirements change for Texas, #2 COVID and their Memorial day was centered around Biden speaking.

Now as a veteran that has lost friends and being part of a Gold Star family being the 3rd story and centered around what the pompous puppet of a president said and not focused on the men and women that gave their all and the families that are left behind is a slap in the face! I sure wish that thee liberals would go start that garden paradise some place and leave us alone.

I return to your normal Memorial day activities.

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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on June 01, 2021, 10:22:35 PM
I went against my better judgement today and allowed my neighbor to use my zero turn mower because his is inop at the moment.

Now let me preface that statement with this:  I always clean all of my equipment/tools when i am finished with them!....always! 

So when i let somebody use my equipment and i give it to them in a clean/serviceable condition and they happen to comment about how clean it is but return it in a dirty/uncleaned state and i find all of this wound up in the blade bearings upon cleaning.....it really makes me mad!

I must remind myself that this is a test and i must have patience!
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on June 01, 2021, 10:50:23 PM
Well, he didn't break it, right?
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on June 01, 2021, 11:09:59 PM
Not after i cleaned out all of the filament line from the sod he had mowed over.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Farmer Jon on June 02, 2021, 05:43:33 AM
Did he make an attempt to clean it at all?
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on June 02, 2021, 08:05:58 AM
Did he make an attempt to clean it at all?

none!

these folks have at least 2 (2 are still in high school) of their 4 children still living in their home and not once have i seen anybody other than the dad doing the yard work.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on June 02, 2021, 11:43:23 AM
Nate,

For what its worth the old warrant sez: I never loan out anything that I am not willing to write off. Loaning something is essentially giving someone permission to utterly destroy your property with you having the ultimate responsibility of fixing it. You are giving that person permission to break, twist, wear out, dull, bend, scratch, foul, dirty up, and permanently or temporarily damage your stuff.

That is what is actually going on when you say, "Sure, go ahead and use it."

My son in law used my tractor for awhile. I loaned it to him for a weekend once, and that turned into a month or two. He wanted to level his driveway, but next thing I know, he is mowing all around a pond at his place, then he is busy filling in a hole in its bottom, and then taking out a fence row!

He did not bring it back! He must have thought that my not coming to ask for it to be returned was tacit approval to just continue to use it. Silly me, I would have thought the man would have asked, "Hey Don, mind if I continue to use it to____"

One day he tells me he is going to spread gravel all over his neighbors barn road, to help him out. While he was doing that, I walked over to his place, jumped on, fired it up, then simply drove home. My blades were all banged up, the tires were gouged, one later went flat, and it just looked very worked...Then I sold it.

I loaned my 16,000 lb trailer to another family member. It was good, except for the back doors which my boys had bent and torn. When I went to bring it home, I noticed the wheels had been drug against a yellow curb. The front leg that supports it was bent 15 degrees forward. The foot pad was all curled up, and the foot extension mechanism is all bent up. One of the side markers is broken and the steel it mounts to is bent and torn.

What can I say about that?

Nothing, or I risk spoiling a good relationship. What could I ask? For the leg to be replaced/repaired? It's welded so it would involve deconstruction. The frame is powder coated, so that could never be repaired. The only to properly bring the thing back to condition would likely to just replace it...all $13,000 of it.

If you loan out anything, it is most likely because the person borrowing it could not afford to purchase it himself. So either keep it to yourself or be prepared for it to be returned in any condition, and also be prepared to forgive the person you loaned it to for banging it up

That's wisdom from the crusty old warrant, take it or leave it...
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on June 02, 2021, 11:50:31 AM
That is 100% correct!
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on June 02, 2021, 11:59:27 AM
That is 100% correct!
Love ya man!
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on June 02, 2021, 01:19:29 PM
When (rarely) I have borrowed things. I "always" treat them like I own it, return on time and have even done small repairs on them.

If you borrow something, there is a trust there I believe, maybe I'm out dated?
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: oklawall on June 02, 2021, 05:33:15 PM
When (rarely) I have borrowed things. I "always" treat them like I own it, return on time and have even done small repairs on them.

If you borrow something, there is a trust there I believe, maybe I'm out dated?
JR,

You maybe out dated but I'm right there with you

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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on June 02, 2021, 06:25:07 PM
I don't think I'm out dated at all. Its just the right thing to do.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on June 02, 2021, 06:30:13 PM
When (rarely) I have borrowed things. I "always" treat them like I own it, return on time and have even done small repairs on them.

If you borrow something, there is a trust there I believe, maybe I'm out dated?

I learned that the hard way as a kid.

I borrowed a friend's tiller last year, and ended up replacing the belts on the old ass machine because they were squeeling.  He was flabbergasted that i maintenanced his machine and cleaned it for him.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Sammconn on June 02, 2021, 06:58:35 PM
I had to borrow my buddies 14 foot boat to get out here.
Hate it, but I had my zodiac and more importantly my outboard at the lake.
No dock equals no big boat.

So it is being returned:
Full of gas.
With the remains of the quart of oil.
Tuned up and ready for the year.

Yeah I think we’re all the same here.
Too bad for the “others”. 
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: TexasRedNeck on June 02, 2021, 08:58:42 PM
I hate to borrow stuff but if I do I treat it like its mine and then some.

Loaning something to someone is a character test for them...and you.


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Bigdave_185 on June 02, 2021, 10:19:38 PM
I was always told if I had to borrow it more then once I had better buy one,  I have been burned a few times on my enclosed trailer.    I won’t loan anything to anyone except two people who know my rules. 


I used to believe it always needed returned better then borrowed, it never was abused or so forth
Until I borrowed a trailer to help the city with a massive wind storm.  I didn’t wash it when finished, I planned on using it again the next day. Well I didn’t get it the next day for what ever reason.   I then got blamed for scratches in the dump trailer I know for fact I didn’t do.  I offered to buy the trailer ( I wanted and need one) and he didn’t take it.    I offered to buy him a new one and keep his for myself. He didn’t take it,  I assume that was because he knows I didn’t scratch powder coat with pine bows


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Bob Smith on June 02, 2021, 11:52:44 PM
It has always been the rule here, if you borrow it, it best be returned at least as good as when borrowed. Full of gas and any problems from your use taken care of. Any wear and tear problem should be addressed and resolved. I hate to borrow and usually do a rental if available. If not and might be needed again, just suck it up and buy one.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: stlaser on June 02, 2021, 11:55:44 PM
My trailers used to get borrowed often, after having to go fetch my own trailers every time I needed them I converted to gooseneck and no one asked to borrow them anymore.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Bob Smith on June 03, 2021, 12:07:09 AM
Interesting, I have borrowed trailers before. But the owner always came with it, just cause.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Farmer Jon on June 03, 2021, 06:01:37 AM
The list of people we loan equipment To is very short. But I know if I need a trailer or something of theirs I can make a phone call and go get it. Same rules apply both ways. You break it you fix it.

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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: stlaser on June 03, 2021, 08:32:31 AM
My buddy and I have a friend whom we use him and his tools / equipment often. We usually upgrade or fix it and pay a tip in beer. It seems to work well, he drops things to help and seems happy, especially after a couple cold ones.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on June 03, 2021, 09:42:08 AM
When (rarely) I have borrowed things. I "always" treat them like I own it, return on time and have even done small repairs on them.

If you borrow something, there is a trust there I believe, maybe I'm out dated?
No, you're correct

but

Times have changed. We are more me-centric than ever.

I recall the guy who borrowed my F250 in the Army to move. He replaced just enough fuel to put it back to where it was when I loaned it to him...Pathetic!
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on June 03, 2021, 10:42:43 AM
Interesting, I have borrowed trailers before. But the owner always came with it, just cause.

That is exactly what i do, because all of my trailers are too big for 1500 trucks and 99% of drivers have absoutley no idea how to tow them.
Title: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on June 23, 2021, 09:39:05 PM
Just sayin.........
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: KensAuto on June 23, 2021, 10:28:43 PM
^^^ ok Nate, you win!
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on June 23, 2021, 10:43:32 PM
Ken, you may be the only one to understand this....lol
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Atkinsmatt on June 24, 2021, 06:21:59 AM
Especially the ones with the squat hole instead of a seat.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: oklawall on June 24, 2021, 08:29:18 AM
Nate how long can you hold your breath? Can you take care of business and get out before you have to take another one

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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on June 24, 2021, 09:58:40 AM
Especially the ones with the squat hole instead of a seat.

Nate how long can you hold your breath? Can you take care of business and get out before you have to take another one

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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: cj7ox on June 24, 2021, 04:45:20 PM
Just sayin.........

Been there, done that. Would rather not repeat it. LOL
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Flyin6 on June 24, 2021, 09:13:22 PM
Checked that box...
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on November 17, 2021, 12:44:11 PM
I have said it before and I will say it again....

I am so sick and tired of worthless small business's, especially ones that throw around their supposed vet status and can not follow through on their word.

1. I contacted about 12 different local kitchen cabinet companies about getting all of the garbage hinges on my kitchen cabinets replaced with something of quality.  every single one of them stated to me that what i was wanting done was beneath them as they only do big money jobs.  the 1 company that said sure thing, said they would be out in 2 days. The guy shows up, as hes working we start conversating and find out that he was active army for a while and that we were stationed at the same place at the same time. the funny part of the conversation was when i stated to him that i am tired of chasing companies to give them my hard earned money when they cant even contact me back. he finished his job, we spoke about what my wants/needs were for 3 additional custom cabinets, took measurements and said he would have an estimate for me with in 1 week.  2 weeks later i contact him again and politely inquire if there was a delay with the estimate, and i was told that they had been busy and that it would get sent to me in a few days.  well i am now at 1.5 months and no estimate!

2. i contacted a company to come out and give me a quote to have the trees in my yard ringed with christmas lights (thats what wendy wants). the owner cant give me a specific date and says that he will just swing by and take some measurements and pictures. I very clearly stated to him that people do not come to my residence unannounced.  so he calls me like 2 weeks later and says that he will be here in 20 minutes. I go out talk to the guy about what is wanted, he takes a few measurements and my email and says that i should have the estimate in my email by monday (he came the previous wednesday).  again 2 weeks go by, i contact the guy and get the blah blah blah story about being busy and that he say my estimate request on his desk 2 days ago and just hadnt gotten around to completing it yet but it will be sent by the end of business then next day. 1 month later, i still have no estimate!


i guess its time to be the masshole and start leaving really crappy reviews for these companies.... :facepalm: :knucklehead:


rant over
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: KensAuto on November 17, 2021, 12:59:51 PM
You can leave nasty reviews, or...

get off your azz and do it yourself.

Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on November 17, 2021, 01:16:05 PM
There is that option, but thats not going to happen!
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: stlaser on November 17, 2021, 03:44:06 PM
No one wants to say no. With that said I don’t know reputable small business that isn’t buried right now. Like months out not weeks. It’s very challenging to put it lightly.


And you’re sounding a bit like a whiner for the record!  :tongue:  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on November 17, 2021, 04:42:16 PM
No one wants to say no. With that said I don’t know reputable small business that isn’t buried right now. Like months out not weeks. It’s very challenging to put it lightly.


And you’re sounding a bit like a whiner for the record!  :tongue:  :popcorn:

I totally understand and respect the fact that many small business are swamped, or have shortages of staff. I also understand that its hard for people to say no or turn down work.  A customer will respect the business 10x fold if the business would be honest upfront and tell the customer that there will be X amount of wait time.
Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: KensAuto on November 17, 2021, 05:26:23 PM
I agree Nate. I'm losing 2-5 jobs a day right now because they don't want to wait 3 weeks. It hurts to turn them away mostly because I do want to help, and I know they'll end up getting shafted at a box store, and once you turn someone away I take a chance that they won't come back.
..and then there's the ones that schedule, then they get impatient and find another shop and don't call and cancel.
My brother works at a big shop and his boss tells everyone to come in. He knows that once he has the cars, he has the job locked in, as long as it takes. There must be over 50 cars just sitting at that shop at any given time.

Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: Nate on September 13, 2022, 02:21:03 PM
They have now got the financial market in their pockets

https://www.google.com/search?q=why+are+credit+card+companies+reporting+firearms+purchases&source=hp&ei=9MYgY7vFA73hkPIPsp-x-Ac&oq=why+arecredit+card+companies+reporting+firearms+pur&gs_lcp=ChFtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1ocBABGAAyBwghEKABEAoyBwghEKABEAo6CAguELEDEIMBOgsILhCABBCxAxDUAjoOCC4QgAQQsQMQgwEQ1AI6BQgAEIAEOgsILhCxAxDHARDRAzoICAAQsQMQgwE6CwgAEIAEELEDEIMBOggILhCABBCxAzoECAAQAzoICC4QgAQQ1AI6DggAEIAEELEDEIMBEMkDOgUIABCSAzoICAAQgAQQyQM6BwgAEIAEEAo6CggAELEDEIMBEAo6DQgAELEDEIMBEMkDEAo6BAgAEAo6BAgAEA06CAgAEB4QDxANOgYIABAeEBY6CQgAEB4QyQMQFjoICAAQHhAPEBY6BggAEB4QDToFCAAQhgM6CgghEB4QFhAKEB06BwghEAoQqwI6BQgAEKIEOgcIABAeEKIEUNMIWMiaAWCbqgFoB3AAeAWAAbEEiAHcTZIBDDEuNTMuMC4xLjIuMpgBAKABAbABAA&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-hp#scso=_C8cgY-b5D_GwqtsPo62euAw_20:409.5238037109375
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Post by: JR on September 13, 2022, 07:33:27 PM
Yeah I have been hearing about that. I understand they are going to say no firearms purchases How can they restrict the purchase of a legal item? You get charged for a service they provide, right?
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 14, 2022, 09:09:42 AM
Cash transaction are looking more and more attractive.


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Title: Re: Get it off your chest / whats bothering you
Post by: JR on September 15, 2022, 08:35:30 PM
In Kali, gun stores must video transactions now. Last thing I got here was a shotgun and black powder rifle, probably my last here.
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