Author Topic: The Oracle...Jared's Corner (Read 68557 times)

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #150 on:** May 21, 2018, 02:15:41 PM »

Quote from: JR on May 21, 2018, 12:18:41 AM

Heck, that is perfect place for floor jacks and such!

A lot of times the home designer didn’t account for suv or larger sedan cars with the garage foot print so they can only get small compact cars in the garage. But with these braces they can at least nose the car under the porch if need be.

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Bob Smith · « **Reply #151 on:** May 21, 2018, 03:49:40 PM »

Interesting, our place in AZ has an oversized garage because the builders thought everyone owned a boat. I was looking at pontoon boats last year but it would not have fit while on the trailer. My wife solved that problem " easier to fish from the beach than have a boat that is too high for the door opening.

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #152 on:** May 21, 2018, 04:02:18 PM »

Interesting. Must be a pretty exclusive beach in Arizona. Didn’t know such things existed

:-O

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Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #153 on:** May 21, 2018, 04:21:35 PM »

Curious about how you guys have seen corners like this finished

We have the country modern style trim in most our homes. 3/4 overhang on outside edges for the header

I just dove them into each other.

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Bob Smith · « **Reply #154 on:** May 21, 2018, 06:56:47 PM »

Quote from: TexasRedNeck on May 21, 2018, 04:02:18 PM

Interesting. Must be a pretty exclusive beach in Arizona. Didn?t know such things existed

:-O

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Nope, nothin exclusive at all. Just the Colorado river and Lake Mohave, with lake Havasu just down river. The area really draws the people in since it isn't too far from L.A. and Laughlin NV is just across the river.

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #155 on:** May 21, 2018, 07:10:39 PM »

Lol. I was just thinking of George Strait. Ocean front property in AZ...when you said “beach”

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JR · « **Reply #156 on:** May 28, 2018, 05:50:58 PM »

Jared, I have a venting problem in my upstairs main room. It has a versalam (16x6) ridge and 2x10 on 16c. I am going to insulate this with roxul 30 which leaves a 3in space up top I need to vent.

I was thinking about leaving a little space next to the beam so when I sheetrock I can pull the air out the bottom with a small fan pulling the air down and over/out.

Other idea is to drill a hole in each rafter near the top to pull the air across still using a fan to move the air.

So any ideas would be great!!

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #157 on:** May 28, 2018, 08:51:48 PM »

so, JR, your roxul wont be touching the radiant barrier?, have you thought about a ridge vent, where you cut away the plywood along each side of the ridge beam? Then you just need soffit venting at the lower eaves to get the air moving up along the underside of the plywood and out the ridge?

Just a thought

JR · « **Reply #158 on:** May 28, 2018, 11:45:56 PM »

Nope, can't do that with this structure. The OSB is nailed to the beam in shear as part of the structure. A few holes are fine noted with 2 vents I have up there now for the open structure.

I think my only real option is a forced vent system either pushing the air down next to the beam or drilling a hole in the 2x10 on each rafter. However as seen by the pic I already have a notch on the bottom and
plan on leaving a gap there since the beam drops about 2 inches below the rafter. It would have to have a fan to work correct pulling the air out of the 2 roof vents now.

Bear9350 · « **Reply #159 on:** May 29, 2018, 08:07:47 AM »

Would it just be easier and possibly cheaper in the long run to spray foam that area?

Jared Herzog · « **Reply #160 on:** May 29, 2018, 08:38:42 AM »

JR,
Sorry for the late response. I agree with the foam as long as it can be used with the existing insulation and venting. But, it is not always easy to have a home with different insulation types and venting/nonventing methods. This is further compounded when you try to calculate the ac loads and distribution to keep every room the same temperature when some rooms are better insulated than others.
I am not a fan of powered ventilation. It works well at moving air but requires power to run the fan. I have seen so many fans burned out here in Texas due to running all the time that i fear they could be a fire hazard and are counter productive to an energy efficient home. When we must use such a vent i try to use the solar powered type.
I have had a similar situation that you have. Air will travel through the structure through the notches and holes naturally found in framing. What i have done when a cut can not be made along the entire ridge is to drill holes. These holes should not be so large as to weaken the structure. These holes allow the connection of osb to ridge to be maintained. The air that gets heated will naturally rise up and pull in fresh air below. Make sure you have a way for fresh air to enter at a lower point than the ridge holes. This will create a draw that will circulate air through the structure. This principle is reliable and never needs maintenance as long as the vents are clear. When i drilled these holes through the osb roof deck i did a 1” hole and had six or so holes between every 16” OC truss. Holes on both sides of the ridge. I did not have to drill holes through the trusses though. You may want to drill cross holes through your rafters but keep them small and from weakening the rafter. I am not sure how to figure how many holes you would need and of what size.
If holes and a continuous ridge vent is not possible you may want to consider an air hawk. They are the round turtle looking vents found on most homes around here. They mount just below the ridge so the connection you have can be maintained. The down side to them in your situation is that they will not ventilate every rafter chamber as well as a continuous vent so you would have to rely on the side to side travel of air through the framing and rafter notches. Small holes could be drilled through the rafters if your local code will allow.

JR · « **Reply #161 on:** May 29, 2018, 04:33:32 PM »

I think in the long run keeping the roof as is will be the best route and using a solar fan to pull air out is an option I thought of.

There will be quite a bit of space for the air to be pulled through, just have to get it out somewhere.

Sprayfoam for an r30 would be pricey and I still need to address the venting.

KensAuto · « **Reply #162 on:** May 29, 2018, 04:36:36 PM »

I would do the holes up top JR. Fairly simple, efficient, and no fan needed.

stlaser · « **Reply #163 on:** May 29, 2018, 04:41:35 PM »

Quote from: KensAuto on May 29, 2018, 04:36:36 PM

I would do the holes up top JR. Fairly simple, efficient, and no fan needed.

I agree with Ken (wow, did I just say that?)

JR · « **Reply #164 on:** May 29, 2018, 04:47:18 PM »

Quote from: KensAuto on May 29, 2018, 04:36:36 PM

I would do the holes up top JR. Fairly simple, efficient, and no fan needed.

Not sure, the ridge beam is 6in wide. Small holes may work but I would need a 16in+ cap to cover both sides.

stlaser · « **Reply #165 on:** May 29, 2018, 06:31:37 PM »

Quote from: JR on May 29, 2018, 04:47:18 PM

Quote from: KensAuto on May 29, 2018, 04:36:36 PM
I would do the holes up top JR. Fairly simple, efficient, and no fan needed.

Not sure, the ridge beam is 6in wide. Small holes may work but I would need a 16in+ cap to cover both sides.

So the beam is 6 inch wide, the holes are 1 inch diameter x 2 so 8 inch total or a tad more. Ridge vent is 13.75 wide (quick google of Lowe’s & HD) am I missing something?

If the hole diameter is concern go smaller & more of them. Thinking you can figure out how many holes you actually need pretty easy. Where I live there is code for venting & calculating the amount of holes for surface area is easy too.

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #166 on:** May 29, 2018, 09:23:05 PM »

Quote from: stlaser on May 29, 2018, 04:41:35 PM

Quote from: KensAuto on May 29, 2018, 04:36:36 PM
I would do the holes up top JR. Fairly simple, efficient, and no fan needed.

I agree with Ken (wow, did I just say that?)

If you start wearing Sandals and vote for Hillary we will put you down

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stlaser · « **Reply #167 on:** May 29, 2018, 09:27:42 PM »

I already wear sandals......

JR · « **Reply #168 on:** May 29, 2018, 10:15:52 PM »

Quote from: stlaser on May 29, 2018, 09:27:42 PM

I already wear sandals......

There you have it!

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #169 on:** May 29, 2018, 11:01:53 PM »

The hippies are taking over...

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Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #170 on:** May 30, 2018, 12:05:26 AM »

Don I need to report a problem!!! Ken is turning this forum into a hippie joint! One person at a time. Can’t you handle this?

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KensAuto · « **Reply #171 on:** May 30, 2018, 12:18:22 AM »

Wait... what!
I don't wear sandals, nor Bermuda shorts (no names mentioned)
...and hippies are normally found near large democrat cities, like Denver, and Houston...they can't survive in dry climates.

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stlaser · « **Reply #172 on:** May 30, 2018, 12:19:59 AM »

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on May 30, 2018, 12:05:26 AM

Don I need to report a problem!!! Ken is turning this forum into a hippie joint! One person at a time. Can’t you handle this?

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I agree Ken is a problem & should probably be fired again. However, I think Don got consumed by a mulch bed & is currently Mia.....

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #173 on:** May 30, 2018, 12:27:20 AM »

watch it lefty. Houston is still.....well....mostly red.....ish.

stlaser · « **Reply #174 on:** May 30, 2018, 12:36:54 AM »

Quote from: TexasRedNeck on May 30, 2018, 12:27:20 AM

watch it lefty. Houston is still.....well....mostly red.....ish.

Pink?

rpar86 · « **Reply #175 on:** May 30, 2018, 02:37:16 AM »

Quote from: stlaser on May 30, 2018, 12:36:54 AM

Pink?

With two red trucks and now a white one, i'd say that makes pink. (only counting the trucks here, not the wife's rides)

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #176 on:** May 30, 2018, 07:22:43 AM »

Yeah Tex might need a name change also, cityboy or Texas city slicker with that fancy new pickup with every option and the pool cloths

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stlaser · « **Reply #177 on:** May 30, 2018, 07:25:56 AM »

Nate · « **Reply #178 on:** May 30, 2018, 09:49:20 AM »

well damn, that went sideways REAL QUICK...…………………..

SQUIRREL!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #179 on:** May 30, 2018, 11:20:00 AM »

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on May 30, 2018, 07:22:43 AM

Yeah Tex might need a name change also, cityboy or Texas city slicker with that fancy new pickup with every option and the pool cloths

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Rutt-Rhoo...

JR · « **Reply #180 on:** May 30, 2018, 12:29:03 PM »

Hey, they are "venting",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #181 on:** May 30, 2018, 01:56:20 PM »

Quote from: JR on May 30, 2018, 12:29:03 PM

Hey, they are "venting",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Lol just cut holes in the roof and use computer fans with 9v batteries change out every month for best performance

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stlaser · « **Reply #182 on:** May 30, 2018, 02:03:10 PM »

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on May 30, 2018, 01:56:20 PM

Quote from: JR on May 30, 2018, 12:29:03 PM
Hey, they are "venting",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Lol just cut holes in the roof and use computer fans with 9v batteries change out every month for best performance

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For best results add smoke detector beepers so you & all your neighbors will know when it’s time to change batteries, for added fun disable the blinking light so it’s a guessing game which battery is dead......

JR · « **Reply #183 on:** May 30, 2018, 03:49:41 PM »

I am leaning towards the holes, say 3 per section. Issue is still the vent material above it as it is designed for cutting a 4in or so slot in the ridge. Then they seal outside that with the cap over that.

So lets say 3-4 holes in each section. Puts the width to seal around 10 inches to be safe. That does not to sound crazy but most venting is made for that narrow center ridge. I was thinking of mesh that I can use wider and found something called smartvent; https://dciproducts.com/smartvent-off-peak-firewall/

So I have some options but need to look more.

JR · « **Reply #184 on:** May 30, 2018, 04:10:52 PM »

This looks interesting and is 14.5 wide vs 11-12 of most others.

https://www.amazon.com/Lomanco-Lor30-Lo-Omniroll-2inx30ft-Black/dp/B000IOAKLW

stlaser · « **Reply #185 on:** May 30, 2018, 04:49:18 PM »

JR, why couldn't you make your own? Essentially build up that ridge (lets say make it 4" taller or whatever) as long as you have enough overhang so water can't get back up inside. Use a fine mesh for air to flow out and cover it with shingles and then cap it like a normal ridge vent. Use vinyl or alum flashing and facia where the mesh isn't on the sides?

JR · « **Reply #186 on:** May 30, 2018, 05:38:03 PM »

Yep, I thought about that but thought I would search first, thx. My pitch is low (3/12)so I want to address it correctly.

KensAuto · « **Reply #187 on:** May 30, 2018, 06:01:24 PM »

Boy oh boy, Jarod is going to freak when he sees what you guys did to his thread.

JR, you could buy about 47 boxes of scotch Brite, split some steel drums in half, and spray paint to match shingles...be sure and pick the right color of SB pads (I would go with red). : popcorn

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TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #188 on:** May 30, 2018, 06:22:21 PM »

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on May 30, 2018, 07:22:43 AM

Yeah Tex might need a name change also, cityboy or Texas city slicker with that fancy new pickup with every option and the pool cloths

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I debated whether to take the bait......

Anyone remember Roy D Mercer, the comedian??

"how big an ole boy are you, Dave?"

:stickpoke

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #189 on:** May 30, 2018, 06:36:27 PM »

Big enough to put a pop knot on your head so big you’ll have to pay for a second hair cut!!

I love me some good ol ROY D! Mercer

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Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #190 on:** May 30, 2018, 06:37:00 PM »

Or stomp ya into a mud puddle than stomp it dry is one I use regularly.

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stlaser · « **Reply #191 on:** May 30, 2018, 06:52:42 PM »

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on May 30, 2018, 06:37:00 PM

Or stomp ya into a mud puddle than stomp it dry is one I use regularly.

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I had a good friend as a teenager who’s no longer with us (country boy from back woods of ky) who used that line and backed it up on occasion......

Now I know where it came from.

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #192 on:** May 30, 2018, 07:07:04 PM »

As Roy D said, "then I'ma gonna have to pack a lunch....."

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #193 on:** May 30, 2018, 09:17:33 PM »

“That’s just right fur a$$whoopin size”

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