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General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 10:01:43 PM »
Anyway, I'm done for the day, here's the "state of the mess" at the moment!

33452
General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 10:00:37 PM »
Ah I see part of my security system got into the pic. Here's the other biological units. These eat about the same as the ones which ride around with me, don't wear clothes, seem to like me and never complain.

33453
General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:59:21 PM »
From Shawn:

Next came the knucklehead retention system. I went to summit to get some lap belts and shoulder harness made of 2" webbing which I vastly prefer over the way over done 3" stuff you see. Heck I flew most things that can produce lift and they all had 2" shoulder straps, so me thinks, ya know, that must be good enough!

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General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:57:40 PM »
Next came the knucklehead retention system. I went to summit to get some lap belts and shoulder harness made of 2" webbing which I vastly prefer over the way over done 3" stuff you see. Heck I flew most things that can produce lift and they all had 2" shoulder straps, so me thinks, ya know, that must be good enough!

33455
General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:55:50 PM »
I tacked 4 legs of 3/4" square tubing to the plates affixed to the seat's undersides, then tacked them into place on the front and rear frames

33456
General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:54:22 PM »
 decided to keep the seats mounted low to keep my CG as low as I could get it. I figure as the biological asset consuming units grow, they are only getting heavier. Right now I want to keep them safe in secure. In about a decade I'll want them to be ejected on a hard corner about a thousand miles from here, but for now we'll keep them as snug as a bug in a rug!
I built the frame 1.5" above the floor and fabbed up the aft mount

33457
General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:52:13 PM »
I then laid in a piece of box tubing connecting the two sides

33458
General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:51:27 PM »
No, Shawn, I did not use 1/2" A400 (or whatever that stuff was) plate. just a piece of steel about as thick as, well, who cares...
After that I took notice of a couple bolts ah' holdin' that bed together. What better place to use as an anchor point me sez! So's I's duz just like the picture:

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General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:50:19 PM »
That didn't take too long so I moved on to fabbing up the rear seat mount. The bottom of the seat has 4 bolt holes which used to attach to a steel plate. So me thinks if a steel plate was good enough for the deere, then by golly, its be good enough for me!

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General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:48:10 PM »
Next I assembled the base unit and then bolted it to the roof

33461
General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:46:23 PM »
Next I assembled the base unit and then bolted it to the roof

33462
General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:43:50 PM »
My first marks were too close to a seam so I moved everything to the left a tad, checked the fit, then while holding the lock device in place marked the 4 mounting holes locations.

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General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:42:10 PM »
I wanted to fit it to the inside of the roof above the passenger's head, sort of out of view (since it's orange) and yet easily accessible. So I held up there and picked a spot, then laid down some tape, and marked through the opening to get a reference,

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General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:40:42 PM »
Yessir, they are good looking, sturdy, and now I can say, easy to install.
So, I just pasted the Roto-Pack first aid kit onto the roof of the Tac-Gator.
Here's some pieces parts of the latch kit:

33465
General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:39:05 PM »
Originally Posted by KensAuto View Post
Can't wait to see those new gas cans installed to give me an idea for my ranger....not to worried about extra fuel (right now i can run 2 days on 9 gal in the stock tank) but i always carry water in the desert...and shovel, high lift, tools, icechest, etcetc

I bought one of everything they had so I could evaluate them on the Gator. I plan to rack out the truck and will have a half dozen or more of them swinging around back there somewhere. Here's a peek at what's coming:
Orange is the first aid, red is gas, OD is storage, white is water, drinking type...

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General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:37:21 PM »
Originally Posted by KensAuto View Post
I really like the seat upgrade. First thing i noticed was how thick the bottom cushions were compared to the stockers, i bet that combined with the shocks will make it ride Caddyish


Ken,
Right you are, the ride is already great, but I will tune it after I add a few more pieces parts and get the thing up to fighting weight.
Still going to add a spare tire, some pioneer equipment, extra battery, winch, roof rack, gas can (s) and a couple widgets. I want to space the wheels out about 1.5" on all four corners, so after I get there, I will start screwing with the shock settings to get it to be able to terrorize the local terrain with reckless abandon!
But those seats do help. And the numbskulls sitting in the back don't weigh enough to need a lot of padding, and besides young bones heal quickly!

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General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:36:17 PM »
I bolted the rear shocks on then lowered it to the ground. I had almost a 1.5" rear lift before doing an aggressive test ride. I loaded up my two biological dead weight units into the bed, then went tearing off across the countryside. In summary, I am amazed! Fear nothing except for the neutral zone and a Romulan bird of prey with these suckers bolted in place. I can generate just about any speed I want cross country and the suspension just soaks it up!
Now I feel the need for speed!!!!!!!!!

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General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:34:56 PM »
 knocked out the right side, then took some time to paint the rotors and touch up any area that was not factory painted

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General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:33:58 PM »
The stock ride height was 31 5/8" to the center of the fender guard. I cranked the shocks some to get me a little over 32"
I neglected to show these pics of the nifty spanner/combo tool and the resevoir mounts that mount to the frame and hold those cool Fox resevoirs out of harms way.

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General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:32:22 PM »
As you can see, these things are fully adjustable for rebound and compression and of course ride height (Can anyone say "lift"?)

I started with the left front, then noticed the directions started at the right front. Significant because the picture of where to mount the resevoir mount is all reversed if you're on the wrong side...

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General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:30:29 PM »
OK, got the Fox coil overs installed today. They are great quality, high tech lighter and mo-spiffy than the factory units which BTW rode very well themselves.
Here's the stuff in the box:

33472
General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:28:41 PM »
Here's the knuckleheads already occupying their new homes. I took them for a ride with the seats sliding all over, they didn't seem to mind!

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General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:27:12 PM »
Here is the approximate location for the factory seats. I plan to build a square steel tubing frame to mount the seats onto and a console in between with a battery under one seat and something under the other (Aux fuel?)

33474
General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:26:06 PM »
And here's the new seats fully installed:

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General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:25:10 PM »
Stock and Sport seat

33476
General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:24:22 PM »
One very pleasant surprise was the ability to move the mount around to achieve 4"-5" more leg room which is important in the space restricted Gator.

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General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:22:42 PM »
Here is the sport seat next to the stocker,each mounted in this pic:

33478
General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:21:42 PM »
The factory supplied seat only has a 21" back which I think is sufficient for passengers, however I would like more in the front. THe stockers tilt forward exposing the 4 - 13mm head bolts which I quickly removed.

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General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:20:36 PM »
The metal grid is sufficient to keep you from being slapped in the back of the knoggin or keep the brain case enclosure group inside where crushing isn't taking place in the event of a rollover. Mostly I wanted it to be able to mount stuff onto it!
Nest is the seats.
Here they are:

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General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:19:16 PM »
It's laser cut out of a piece of maybe 11 gage mild steel, or a tad lighter. Anyway to install that you just open the clamps, losen the poly roof, slap in in place and lock it down. Here it is going in:

33481
General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:17:20 PM »
OK, back from vacation, so it's time to get back to having fun!
This time I am going to install a rear head guard then follow up with the installation of the John Deere sports seats.
Here's the rack sitting out of the box:

33482
General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:15:12 PM »
There will be a bunch more photos of this ProMark 4500 winch when it gets installed

33483
General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:13:47 PM »
Here's some of the parts that are stacking up for the Gator

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General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:11:13 PM »
A few more:

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General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:09:41 PM »
Some pics of what it looks like at the moment

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General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:08:00 PM »
At this point I am lights complete in the front except for converting the headlights to HID. Next for lights is a "scene illumination which will turn on 360 degree floods and then som aft worklights and finally a dash light mod to NVG compatibility

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General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:06:31 PM »
This wiring harness plugs into the main harness as well via jumper terminalslocated on the last aux light set I just mounted.Once the wires were plugged in,I carefully ran and secured the wiring harnesses and pluged it all together.

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General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:05:40 PM »
These lights attach to a heavy duty bracket which in turn bolts to the main uprights of the brush guard with carriage bolts

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General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:04:49 PM »
These are very similiar to the roof mounted lights, however the green dots tell a different story.

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General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:03:57 PM »
Lets do another light install. This time I will be installing the John Deere pencil beams in the facia panel below the brush guard. Here's what came in that box:

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General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:01:58 PM »
Bobby, welcome!
I'm sticking a cool M4 mount in front above my knoggin...Tht's as far as i'm going with that idea for the moment. Idea is to scout, stay out of trouble and use speed if i gets into some...

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General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:01:27 PM »
Bobby wrote:

Chief,
I decided that my inaugural post should be in your build. Since I can't sleep at anyway I was thinking about what I'd do if I had a gator like yours. Remember those ODA humvees with the TC side mounted 240? More specifically the mount?? Or the DPV's the seals had? More specifically the MG mounted in front of the TC (yet removable so you can use the windscreen)... I think you see where I'm going with that line questioning. If anyone can make it work on a gator I'm sure you could. Shouldn't be hard to make a mount for a 12ga or M4, with your metal skills.

That would allow the vehicle to be used in the recon mode, but allow the TC to fire accurately, with out inujring themselves or others in the gator.. Now that I left you with an idea on top of your other ideas, I'm off to hunt down that woodpecker that woke me up.

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General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:00:02 PM »
Couple shots of the aux lighting fired up in the driveway. Using the flash does not do it justice. Suffice it to say there is an abundance of light, more than necessary!

33494
General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 08:57:11 PM »
Originally Posted by Armalite View Post
Have you debated on installing a seperate back up battery supply? I only ask because I know in the past, with my utv, I was checking out a few things on the lease. Had a low battery, but was enough to crank. Needless to say, I got stuck in a creek. Tried to winch out, and utv died on me. Not enough power to crank, or run the winch long enough to pull me out. Had to walk back to truck, get it in there, and pull myself out using the truck. Bought a new battery the next day. A deep cell battery would have helped a ton. Just curious if you've debated this, with running all the aux lights. And apparantly you have enough alternator to keep a charge on a deep cell aux battery...

That's a very good idea Ashley!
I was initially eyeing the roof for one of those solar panels you sent me, but after I decided to fill up the bed with all two seats, aux fuel, some storage containers and the dog, I canned that idea. The roof will now be the future site of a roof rack.
As I develop this project in my mind I am seeing big changes. I will definately need about 100Hp on tap to move it around more quicklier (as they liked to say in the SERE course I went to once) especially with all the extra weight.
I think the vehicle might end up operating at near gross weight, hence the need for mo-power. After rulling out a duramax as a possible powerplant and the LS1 will not fit either, I have to stir up the soup in this little screamin' me-me! I figure a good head port, intake work, maybe a blueprinted bottom end and a turbo with an intercooler and mugo bigger injectors capable of sucking the fuel tank dry in a single throttle burst...that should be about right.
Did I ever mention I used to own a business? Called it Harward Performance. Know what our motto was?
"When too much is not enough!" Yep, seemed to retained that philosophy...

So looking at it, after I complete this bolt on blitz of JD happy homeowner pieces parts. I'll add the cool gas can parts. OOH, you haven't seen that, sorry, I have Yep, cluttering up one end of the garage. I think I am going to trash the whole air intake system. THis thing needs a custom airbox, Don built along with a snorkle, big K&N and tubing much larger than the current straw it is sipping through.
Then the more I look at it the more it is screaming for a full cage, as in over the rear as well. If I roll it over and one of the future rangers gets wiped out, I am possibly damaging our nations future security. so I have to take steps, based on our national security to keep those numbskulls somewhat protected.
Besides, with a roll cage, I'll have more room to bolt stuff onto the tactor. (That's Tac for tactical, and tor from gator)
So by the time you guys decide I's gots to have one, I'll have it all ciphered out! Maybe I'll sell the design to my SF buddies in one of the groups!

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General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 08:55:07 PM »
Originally Posted by GreatLakeOffRoad View Post
I don't drink coffe or tea, what then? On a similiar note I ordered in for one of my friends a warn 4500# a few years back for his polaris side by side, it wasn't long before he burnt it up. You may contemplate bigger is better, or longer lasting at least? I also understand at some point you will be stressing the frame into breaking in half, say if you tied off the rear to a tree and were pulling from the front......


I also spoke with the warn winch rep at KOH in 2011 and those cheapo M8000 units they sell for $500 are the best selling and one of the most durable units they have. Just info to feed you with from the horses mouth so to speak.

I concur, when it comes to Warn, the extra you pay in no way seems to reflect how long the winch will last. The T-Max 9000 I have on my truck I first bolted on my Tundra maybe 7-8 years ago. Then I had it on my Hummer H2. Then back on the tundra, and finally on my current HD2500.
When I bought that one I compared every aspect of it to the warn 9000. Warn had a 4.6HP motor, the T-Max had a 6.6HP! The line retrival speed on the Tmax was faster. The planetary gears in the t-mas were larger and it had more splines. Almost everything was stronger with the T-Max, and now all these years later it still works like new. I just winched a Gazebo up to level which was on a pond and leaning heavily. I'm sure I was exceeding it's max ability, but I didn't see so much as a puff of smoke.
I purchased a ProMark 4500 this time. Why? Because it was very inexpensive, and I'll just bet it will get the job done quite nicely. Would have liked to install a 6K however I thing the mount is different than the smaller ATV bolt patterns.

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General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 08:54:19 PM »
Shawn wrote:

 don't drink coffe or tea, what then? On a similiar note I ordered in for one of my friends a warn 4500# a few years back for his polaris side by side, it wasn't long before he burnt it up. You may contemplate bigger is better, or longer lasting at least? I also understand at some point you will be stressing the frame into breaking in half, say if you tied off the rear to a tree and were pulling from the front......

I also spoke with the warn winch rep at KOH in 2011 and those cheapo M8000 units they sell for $500 are the best selling and one of the most durable units they have. Just info to feed you with from the horses mouth so to speak.

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General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 08:53:14 PM »
Originally Posted by GreatLakeOffRoad View Post
That gator doesn't even have a winch from the factory? I know they have a winch option for this unit, where is yours at? Or do your pics just suck that bad I can't see it????????

Your letting me down early Don, this is not a good start!!!

No yellow seat either, what gives?

First of all, yellow (based on yesterday's game results) is for hoosiers
Camo is for Kentuckians, since there are no royal blue seats in the JD inventory. THere are no camo seats either, so... Black it is.
I don't want to give the whole build away just yet, but if you look at the list I published of parts you will notice some high back heavily padded sports (racing) seats listed. When thise jewels get here they replace the front seats and those cool 21" high back seats already installed move to the back. I plan to mount those in the bed with seat belts of course for the future rnagers I am currently raising.

Winch: Yes they do offer a Warn 3500 lb winch with steel cable. They charge something like $800ish for that winch. I went the custom route and ordered a 4500 lb winch with synthetic line which is now sitting in the garage near the Fox shocks.
Don't worry friend, I'll work overtime if necessary just to keep you from getting angry. Then, later on we're going to work on that anger issue one on one over coffee and tea. When you become difficult to work with or angry, then you get to learn about pain control as well, until you become calm once again, and see the benefit to drinking the coffee instead! 

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General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 08:51:43 PM »
A simple test confirmed everything was working just fine.

No time to waste, onward to installing the intermediate range spot lamps next.

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General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 08:49:41 PM »
Next, the Hella spots were bolted in place and the harness connected.

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General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Gator 825i Build Thread
« on: September 15, 2014, 08:48:18 PM »
Next you simply plug the auxilliary lighting harness into the existing factory harness and route the wires according to instructions, then zip tie it all in place.
The dash has slots already for multiple lights, so I selected a slot and glued on the label trim and installed the switch.

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