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Title: Jade Helm
Post by: Flyin6 on May 03, 2015, 07:28:13 PM
Jade Helm's motto, "To master the human domain," Suggests to some that this "exercise" is a prelude to a state of coming Martial Law. The exercise is going on at the moment in the southwestern United States. The scenario states that some states are "Permissive, whereas others are flat out not friendly to our forces. All of that suggests exactly how our forces will enter, driving in with picnic baskets or a "Forced entry" where our guys shoot anything that gets in their way

Some believe Jade Helm is a conditioning exercise by the goverment that will preceed suspension of constitutional rights to achieve some greater good. Some feel radicals have indeed taken control of parts of our government and will do anything to seize guns, limit freedom of speech, and confiscate wealth on a march toward Socialism and Communism. Where do you stand on this issue?

Cast you vote on the poll
Title: Re: Jade Helm
Post by: cudakidd53 on May 03, 2015, 11:12:05 PM
This "training" is larger than the US response to ISIS and other islamic terrorism activities overseas........I wonder how many active military members will reply with, "sir, I will not obey that order"?
Title: Re: Jade Helm
Post by: Atkinsmatt on May 05, 2015, 09:23:32 AM
It certainly bears watching and staying ready.  Eternal vigilance.
Title: Re: Jade Helm
Post by: Nate on May 05, 2015, 11:11:24 AM
without divulging too much info and where i got it from, this is nothing to worry about.
Title: Re: Jade Helm
Post by: JR on May 05, 2015, 08:28:02 PM
I agree it bares watching.

But when its 1000's vs millions the millions will win and the 1000's won't really have their heart in it if it did happen.
Title: Re: Jade Helm
Post by: Flyin6 on May 05, 2015, 09:54:42 PM
I posted this to get a sensing.

I am suspect of parts of this guberment, however as a special ops guy, I did the very same thing, but you never knew it was going down. Have used Atlanta, Detroit, Longbeach/LA, Charleston S.C, and other spots to include Vegas. You never knew we were there...

Listen to Nate, but without knowing it smells just like routine training.

Although, I am never completely comfortable training around Americans. One of our birds took a round through the chin bubble one night...In the US of A! But then again so did one of our Comair jets!
Title: Re: Jade Helm
Post by: JR on May 06, 2015, 06:16:40 PM
Made it to FOX news today. Even they say the "size" of this excercise is overwelming.
Title: Re: Jade Helm
Post by: cudakidd53 on May 06, 2015, 06:44:37 PM
What good is an exercise if everyone knows about it, can watch and learn from it?
Title: Re: Jade Helm
Post by: Flyin6 on May 06, 2015, 09:44:40 PM
What good is an exercise if everyone knows about it, can watch and learn from it?
Well, you don't see the big picture, only bits and pieces. This thing probably has a dozen parallel ops going on at the same time. Only a genius could piece it all together
Title: Re: Jade Helm
Post by: Pulley on May 06, 2015, 10:54:25 PM
In my economics class we talk about this and many other conspiracy theories. I actually live in Livingston where one of the Wal-Marts was shut down and there have been rumors of it becoming a FEMA camp or being used for base of operations of sorts. I just can't bring myself to believe that men and women who are risking their lives to protect this country would suddenly turn on us. But being in Texas which is considered a hostile state for the operation does worry me some. I did learn today that Greg Abbott told the Texas state guard to monitor the training which is a little reassuring. But if the government decides to attack Texas they'll learn real quick, don't mess with Texas. I don't know a single person who doesn't own/know how to shoot a gun and if it comes down to it I'll gladly knock some heads. I could also see Texas becoming a country again.
Title: Re: Jade Helm
Post by: Pulley on May 06, 2015, 11:38:48 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/06/opinions/moore-texas-pentagon/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/06/opinions/moore-texas-pentagon/index.html)
This was sent in by a proud Texan and couldn't help but share his thoughts on Jade Helm. Rather funny if you ask me.
Title: Re: Jade Helm
Post by: Flyin6 on May 07, 2015, 08:37:12 AM
I have stated several times that I believe that exercise Jade Helm is military training, nothing more.

It is that to the military guys who are honest and everything we think they are, there is no secret game or mal intent at their level.

I was a part of that world, so I can clearly see a familiar pattern, and to repeat a favorite phrase from the past, "It's Ar-mee training, Sir!"

However, I agree with the Texas governor with his recent order to monitor the operations. Nothing will be learned, in reality, but it's not a bad thing for the forces of Texas to watch a special operations mission in execution. Heck, it will likely make them more proficient in their Warcraft as well.

Now, having said that the one thing that always bothered me is once you make a tool, you generally use it. The soldier executing the mission is rehearsing and learning from what he experienced and will be better at it the next time. Because of turnover in our forces, these exercises need to be frequent. So by my thinking, no bad on the sergeant or captain out there slingin' rotor blades.

But there is a cancer in our government. A Muslim aligned, socialist intent, altogether non American control faction that is entrenched and empowered through the types of people who make Baltimore and Ferguson possible. So I wonder what might these people do with such a tool. Take out Somalia, Yemen, Syria, or Texas and Arizona? Any of those places are possible targets simply because they are places.

The military I knew was strong, loyal, honest, and would sacrifice in an instant to protect the constitutional United States. That military had a great NCO corps led by fantastic general grade officers who fostered all we youngins who were growing up in their image. Today's military has had between 200-300 of those great leaders purged. Purged because they were known to be against the open gay thing in the military. Purged because they would never raise arms against Americans. A bunch of Isis A-holes camping in the US of A? Well they get invited to an AH-64 party Ricky tick. But Americans protesting or resisting some questionable law?? Not on your life would we have lifted a finger to harm.

The people in command would have known that and that's why no such order would ever have seen the light of day.

So monitor away, and when you feel something is unconstitutional, stand your ground against it. Organize into little mini-militias and study the constitution and your war craft. If a Bundy ranch or Ferguson thing happens in your hood...Stand your ground!
Title: Re: Jade Helm
Post by: Drunksailor on May 09, 2015, 05:29:54 AM
Yeah rest your pretty little heads this stuff happens everyday with a random name and motto that some air force officer in planning probably thought sounded cool. Besides i have complete and total confidence that 97% of the armed forces will fight for their country and its people, not a government that tries to kill its people
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