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I have a feeling we're going to have to fire Don again. :)
Customer Service is more likely, Customer Frustration Department....... especially when ofshore!
Quote from: cudakidd53 on August 07, 2017, 07:17:44 PMCustomer Service is more likely, Customer Frustration Department....... especially when ofshore! They are in Texas MIke!You'd think Texas would have anything big, heavy duty, ag, destructive, truck related, down pat!
Someone's gettin' fired, that's for sureGave me a PTSD (Post topper stress disorder) attack!Soon as I figure who's at the heart of this, they're goneNo matter what happens here I always suspect Ken and his ornery brother in the rockies. Seems some of those rocks match up pretty well with what they have in their heads!
Looks good. That green tin looks really nice tooSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Looking good there Don - remember, measure twice, cut/dig once!
and on the rock slides you built....That is clean washed rock. No fines in it. If you want compaction, you will have to buy a rock material that has fines in it. If you keep using clean washed rock, then expect to spin out every time. Washed rock is fine on flat surfaces, but not on inclines.
Well I am not Ash, but he needs crusher fines mixed into the clean stuff. If he has elevation room for some minus stuff it should work in and stabilize the clean gravel. If not, scrape some off and start over.
Rough crowd Don. Curious as to the weight of the water and other mechanicals that you intend to store there. Also the rock advice is sound. Gotta have fines to lock in place. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: TexasRedNeck on August 11, 2017, 08:04:06 PMRough crowd Don. Curious as to the weight of the water and other mechanicals that you intend to store there. Also the rock advice is sound. Gotta have fines to lock in place. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkAs a rough estimate, water and piping = 15,000generator and other electricals, say, 1,000 lbsLets throw a water heater in there + 500Weight of two floors...Did I mention I was considering adding a full second floor which when cut into the roof would make for a 10 X 14 bathroom. So structure, what, a ton? So the eight piers would be carrying what, 18.5, so lets just say 20,000 or 10 tons10 X 14 = 140 sq/ft. 20,000/140 = 142.85 lb/ft2So here's the trick partNormal home floors are constructed for loads of about 40 psf...I'm looking at 142ish lb/ft2I am going to use 2 X 10 syp joistsThe 2 X 10 can span quite a distance while maintaining live loads of 40 lb/ft2 with a 24 oc spacing.Reducing that spacing to 16" gains a lot and I will place mine on 12" centers. I also plan to span around 9' 6" because I plan to double up the plates the joists will attach to.It's not completely clear but spanning 10 feet with a 2 X 10 exceeds the 100 lb/ft2 restaurant floor requirement, so with some fuzzy estimating I think I will be there.Next question is how much weight can a 13" concrete post carry? Well in clay, 1300 lbs per pier, and gravel, 3600 lbs per pier.But what about piers resting on rock? As in a large rock in the ground that God put there? Man, like I couldn't figure that, but I know the concrete is 5000 lb rated mix, so the pier itself is pretty strong. Some of the piers are deep and rest in clay/rock, and others are resting on the limestone below the surface.The 40 psf and 100 psf residential and commercial floor structure are easily achieved with the lumber I am using and I am doubling that up, but of the piers??? I just don't know. I think to be sure I'll pour a few more and place them strategically to carry more weight
Quote from: cudakidd53 on August 10, 2017, 10:56:27 PMLooking good there Don - remember, measure twice, cut/dig once! I think that is some subconscious way, I get satisfaction from building things out of alignment, which aren't square, that don't fit properly...
Quote from: Flyin6 on August 11, 2017, 09:16:02 AMQuote from: cudakidd53 on August 10, 2017, 10:56:27 PMLooking good there Don - remember, measure twice, cut/dig once! I think that is some subconscious way, I get satisfaction from building things out of alignment, which aren't square, that don't fit properly...Finally in touch with your inner Hillbilly aren't you!
RN, I stayed up till nearly 0100 recalcing the thing and having some doubt, I think I am going to change up the design somewhat. I think I'll set the tank on the ground, on a pad of gravel, then frame up the floor around it. Won't be as convenient, but will remove all the weight from the piers...Off to do just that...