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« Reply #50 on: September 15, 2014, 05:04:25 PM »
OK,
I'll start this off:

You might be a Liberal if:

You think Gun control is not about a steady aim!
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« Reply #51 on: September 15, 2014, 05:04:46 PM »
You might be a Liberal if:

You think Obama pays your welfare from his own money!
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« Reply #52 on: September 15, 2014, 05:05:05 PM »
You might be a liberal if

You believe giving social security checks to Illegal imigrants for work they did while in the US where they paid no taxes or social security is a good idea!
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« Reply #53 on: September 15, 2014, 05:05:43 PM »
You might be a liberal if

All your friends are gay, communist, actors, tax cheats, terrorists, muslims, and professors at the university of Chicago
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« Reply #54 on: September 15, 2014, 05:06:09 PM »
You might be a liberal if

you believe in taxing people into prosperity
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« Reply #55 on: September 15, 2014, 05:08:01 PM »
You may be a liberal if:

You watch Michael Moore movies
...and enjoy them!
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« Reply #56 on: September 15, 2014, 05:14:25 PM »
You may be a liberal if

Arizona is a safer place because of all the illegal immigrants
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« Reply #57 on: September 15, 2014, 05:14:49 PM »
You may be a liberal if:

You believe Islam really is the religion of peace!
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« Reply #58 on: September 15, 2014, 05:15:26 PM »
You may be a liberal if:

You heard we are heading toward a fiscal clift, yet you voted for a guy who's campaign motto was "FORWARD"
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« Reply #59 on: September 15, 2014, 05:16:42 PM »
Wow, is Illinois and Chicago great or what?

Perhaps the U.S. should pull out of Chicago ?

Body count: In the last 12 months 500 murdered in Chicago .

221 killed in Iraq

Chicago has one of the strictest gun laws in
the entire US....In fact there are NO private citizens that are issued a
concealed carry permit and they do not recognize carry permits from any
other state. This so called "black state" allows only police and military to
carry weapons and the gun violence is the highest in the nation.

President: Barack Hussein Obama

Senator: Dick Durbin

House Representative: Jesse Jackson Jr.

Governor: Pat Quinn

House leader: Mike Madigan

Atty. Gen.: Lisa Madigan (daughter of Mike)

Mayor: Rahm Emanuel

The leadership in Illinois - all Democrats.

Thank you for the combat zone in Chicago .

Of course, they're all blaming each other.

Can't blame Republicans; there aren't any!

Chicago school system rated one of the worst in the country.

Can't blame Republicans; there aren't any!

State pension fund $78 Billion in debt, worst in country.

Can't blame Republicans; there aren't any!

Cook County ( Chicago ) sales tax 10.25% highest in country.

Can't blame Republicans; there aren't any!

This is the political culture that Obama comes from in
Illinois .

And he is going to 'fix' Washington politics for us???

George Ryan is no longer Governor, he is in the big house.

Of course he was replaced by Rob Blajegovitch who is...that' s right, also
in the big house.

And Representative Jesse Jackson Jr. resigned a couple of weeks ago.

That is because he is fighting being sent to...that' s right, the big house.

The Land of Lincoln , where our governors make our license plates.
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« Reply #60 on: September 15, 2014, 05:29:33 PM »
You might be a liberal if:

You really believe the president will get anything done with gun control!

Folks, we have justice, righteousness, goodness, honor, and the constitution on our side. The liberal idiots have none of that. They only have their imagined mental superiority. Personally, I'm happy that they think they are mentally ahead of the curve...It's good for one's enemy to be living a dream, only to be quickly and easily knocked off that pedestal once someone with common sense and a big bat comes along.
Folks we are that person. We will stand up to the federal goverment bullying us because, WE ARE THE UNITED STATES! Did you get that, did you hear me? It's us not them. They sit behind a very thin veil of laws and regulation which holds it all together. But now that the laws are beginning to extend beyond the veil of the constitution, do we have to follow them? THe answer is a resounding, of course not!
As an Army soldier I and everyone else was well briefed and educated on a what constitutes a legal order, and what an illegal order looks like.
Go out and gun down the people of that village is obviously an illegal order. "Gentlemen, there are insurgents in that village, lets go get them is a legal order. If during the fighting some innocents are injured, that is obviously not desirable, however understood and allowed for. If during that fray I see a soldier for no reason gun down an innocent, that is no longer combat, he has commited a crime.
I'm talking thin lines here and for the most part we the people know about that line. If an arresting police officer comes into your home to arrest a family menber who has commited a crime, that is allowable and a part of our system. If however, while arresting the criminal the police begin to sexually assault your wife, that is obviously crossing the line. What do you do in that case? Stand there and watch? Beat the officer over the head? Well either is legally acceptable, you see, you have the right to defend yourself and what is yours.
Read the 3rd amendment, it is very important. It protects us from goverment overbearances which has become the flavor of the day. We are right and we are lawful obeyers of our constitution and have the full force of that on our side. No executive order can change that, and the constitution has not been changed, and that process would be a long and difficult one. So if the goverment, or part of it steps out past the veil of the constitution do we have to comply or obey? Hell no we don't have to, because in a strange turn of events we become the people in the right, and not the authority st hand, which iunder this scenerio has now become the criminal element...Make sense?
There are some politics playing out here. Feinstien does not have the poser to get anything done, so the left is making a bunch of noise to get us all wipped up into a frenzy. I believe the want us to revolt to do something unlawful to clearly put and place ourselves as the criminal element. It would seem the lefties are setting this all up.
Remember the 23 executive orders that the president signed? Check out the white house web site. Where are these executive orders our president signed in front of those children?
They do not exist!!!!!!!! Check it out for yourself! They are proclaminations and memorandums which show intent but have no specific power! Yup, it was all a game! IT was set up to get a reaction from us, to get us to do something, to get a reaction.
How low can you go you ask? Apparently you can stoop to trying to incite violence because, I can't see what other purpose that show would have served.
Let all this serve notice: The game is afoot. THe left will resort to anything. Saul Lewensky (or however you spell that traitor's name) clearly states "The end justifies the means!" They, the liberal radicals will do anything to get their socialist disarmed God hating society. I say to hell with them. As a Christian I am simply stating a fact, anyone who holds to Liberal beliefs is clearly a God hater and destined to an eternity in hell, so I am really only stating the obvious. Hold to your constitution and prepare. Do nothing except to love your family and your neighbor, but we shall not budge, not one inch. On the other side of this thin line is tyranny, murder, subjugation, loss of freedom, and the death of our republic.
Remember also Japan did not invade the US following Pearl harbor because Yamamoto warned the imperial japanese command that there would literally be a rifle behind every blade of grass.
Make no mistake, guns keep us free from tyranny. Liberal idiots believe there wayt is the elightened path for all us poor rednecks. Well most of us rednecks have more education than our liberal counterparts. We have more common sense, by far, and we grow all the food. We do just about everything that produces or contributes to our society in a real way, except for possibly the modern art thing. Nope haven't seen much of that in the local communities!!!

Check out this link discussing the supposed signing of the executive orders. It casts the light of doubt on the whole event as being legitimate:

What did Obama REALLY sign? It wasn't Executive Orders! - Tea Party Command Center
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« Reply #61 on: September 15, 2014, 05:30:41 PM »
Inform yourself
What we lack, gentlemen in most cases is a broad reference base of knowledge. We are not as smart as we should be, and in a way that makes us lazy and irresponsible to our nation. We have to think nad be able to do so clearly and critically if we are to be able to make correct decisions about the matters at hand.
I could go on and on about how I learned that lesson, but you need to learn the lesson as well. Get smart while holding onto your bedrock belief in the almighty and your good common sense. With that you will be well equipped to fight the beast who day by advancing day, continuing to show himself all the more. He is wrapped in the cloak of political correctness which in it's basic form is the lack of courage and lying, nothing more. Yet this concept has somehow been elevated to the level of a linguistic art form. I say Bull crap, a turd in a hot dog bun is still a turd.
Watch this Power point presentation and learn from it. It if a statement of fact and shows how the left works (Lies). Learn the truth and you will disarm the enemy who is revealing itself as some of our fellow countrymen (Not fellow patriots) and some of our goverment. Learn, sharpen your mind!

http://www.assaultweapon.info/
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« Reply #62 on: September 15, 2014, 05:32:23 PM »
Do you see what all those crazed shooters in the last few years had in common?

Why is it that none of the disturbed and evil men, who steal guns, then go and kill movie-goers and children in school, has ever been identified as a conservative NRA member?

Ft. Hood~~~ Registered Democrat ~ Muslim
Columbine ~~~ Too young to vote; both families were registered Democrats and progressive liberals
Virginia Tech ~~~ Wrote hate mail to President Bush and to his staff ~ Registered Democrat
Colorado Theater ~~~ Registered Democrat; staff worker on the Obama campaign; Occupy Wall Street participant; progressive liberal
Connecticut School Shooter- ~~~ Registered Democrat; hated Christians
Common thread - all of these shooters were progressive liberal Democrats."

INTERESTING?

Seeing a pattern here??

Prepare...
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« Reply #63 on: September 15, 2014, 05:33:33 PM »
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« Reply #64 on: September 15, 2014, 05:34:38 PM »
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« Reply #65 on: September 15, 2014, 05:35:24 PM »
Get involved folks!

My letter to my Senator, Mitch McConnell:

Senator McConnell,
Again sir allow me to thank you for doing a great job and putting up with the world of Washington, how difficult the latter must indeed be!
Senator, as a retired Army Officer and lawful gun owner I am extremely concerned with the posturing and fooling with the rules so to speak with regard to the gun control legislation. Sir, I believe you share my views that any legislation concerning even a limited excursion into gun control is nothing more that a foothold from which more attacks will be launched against our constitutional given right to bear arms and for self protection.
I recently discovered the constitution of China allows its citizens nearly all the same rights as we Americans enjoy, did you know that? However the lack of a second amendment right for Chinese to bear arms makes the document on which the other freedoms are espoused all but worthless!
Sir, I have been on some difficult missions, having served as a pilot in the 160th Special Operations Aviation at Ft. Campbell, and I realize some fights simply cannot be lost. They are the ones we go all the way with, only one guy coming home and all that. I mention that because this is such a fight. The left, riding high on their recent victory feels anything is possible, and you, sir have an enormous task at hand. But you must not fail us. You must stand fast, no matter what it costs you personally nor what it costs the republican party. No deals, nothing. A good and just America stands behind you and our numbers are many.
I fear should the liberals succeed in passing firearms registration, that action will lead eventually to an ever increasing bully state eventually knocking on individual's doors. Should that happen, my gut tells me the results will be catastrophic! I think we are indeed looking down the barrel, so to speak, at the ignition source for the next American Revolution, and not one of words and ideals.
Sir, stand fast. Like me you too stand at the frontier of freedom. Who would have ever imagined the place of battle is the capital of the greatest republic ever known. But, sir, you have chosen to be there. You have chosen to be the master of the fight just as I did when I volunteered then climbed into the cockpits of those Chinooks. Don't let us down, we have no recourse. Tell us what you need from us and we will answer, Talk to us, we are listening, watching, waiting.
God Bless you and all our lawmakers and national leaders. May God's wise counsel smite you with a strong resolve to restore our nation to one which both serves and fears a living God.
Thank You
Donald Harward
CW4, US Army, Ret.
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« Reply #66 on: September 15, 2014, 05:37:21 PM »
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« Reply #67 on: September 15, 2014, 05:38:27 PM »
From a British friend of mine, well sort of British...



1. Teaching Maths In 1970
A logger sells a truckload of timber for £100..
His cost of production is 4/5 of the price.
What is his profit?

2. Teaching Maths In 1980 A logger sells a truckload of timber for £100.
His cost of production is 80% of the price.
What is his profit?

3. Teaching Maths In 1990A logger sells a truckload of timber for £100.
His cost of production is £80.
How much was his profit?

4. Teaching Maths In 2000
A logger sells a truckload of timber for £100.
His cost of production is £80 and his profit is £20.
Your assignment: Underline the number 20.

5. Teaching Maths In 2005 A logger cuts down a beautiful forest because he is selfish and inconsiderate and cares nothing for the habitat of animals or the preservation of our woodlands.
Your assignment: Discuss how the birds and squirrels might feel as the logger cut down their homes just for a measly profit of £20.



6. Teaching Maths In 2009 A logger is arrested for trying to cut down a tree in case it may be offensive to Muslims or other religious groups not consulted in the application for the felling license. He is also fined a £100 as his chainsaw is in breach of Health and Safety legislation as it deemed too dangerous and could cut something. He has used the chainsaw for over 20 years without incident however he does not have the correct certificate of competence and is therefore considered to be a recidivist and habitual criminal. His DNA is sampled and his details circulated throughout all government agencies. He protests and is taken to court and fined another £100 because he is such an easy target.

When he is released he returns to find Gypsies have cut down half his wood to build a camp on his land. He tries to throw them off but is arrested, prosecuted for harassing an ethnic minority, imprisoned and fined a further £100. While he is in jail again the Gypsies cut down the rest of his wood and sell it on the black market for £100 cash. They also have a departure BBQ of squirrel and pheasant and leave behind several tons of rubbish and asbestos sheeting.

The forester on release is warned that failure to clear the fly tipped rubbish immediately at his own cost is an offence. He complains and is arrested for environmental pollution, breach of the peace and invoiced £12,000 plus VAT for safe disposal costs by a regulated government contractor.

Your assignment: How many times is the logger going to have to be arrested and fined before he realises that he is never going to make £20 profit by hard work and should give up, sign onto the dole and live off the state for the rest of his life?

7. Teaching Maths In 2010 A logger doesn’t sell a lorry load of timber because he can’t get a loan to buy a new lorry because his bank has spent all his and their money on a derivative of securitised debt related to sub-prime mortgages in Surrey and lost the lot, with only some government money left to pay a few million-pound bonuses to their senior directors and the traders who made the biggest losses.

The logger struggles to pay the £1,200 road tax on his old lorry. However, as it was built in the 1970s it no longer meets the emissions regulations and he is forced to scrap it.

Some Bulgarian loggers buy the lorry from the scrap merchant and put it back on the road. They undercut everyone on price for haulage and send their cash back home, while claiming unemployment for themselves and their relatives. If questioned they speak no English and it is easier to deport them at the governments expense. Following their holiday back home they return to the UK with different names and fresh girls and start again. The logg er protests, is accused of being a bigoted racist and as his name is on the side of his old lorry he is forced to pay £1,500 registration fees as a gang master.

The Government borrows more money to pay to the bankers as bonuses are not cheap. The parliamentarians feel they are missing out and claim the difference on expenses and allowances.
You do the maths.

8. Teaching Maths 2017 أ المسجل تبيع حموله شاحنة من الخشب من اجل 100 دولار.. صاحب تكلفة
> الانتاج 80 من
> الثمن. ما هو الربح له؟= 20
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« Reply #68 on: September 15, 2014, 05:41:04 PM »
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« Reply #69 on: September 15, 2014, 05:42:26 PM »
Another CIEMR:

Hmmm, been slacking here!
I was thinking about the lunacy of the left as most recently demonstrated by the calls for gun control.
Of course anyone with any sense at all knows that guns in the hands of honest, law abiding citizens are a huge deterrent to crime.
Note: This simple fact is proof positive that the people who think like that are really stupid, nuff said.
So Colorado is hell bent on removing more guns. I guess they missed the point with gun registration and gun control with their Aurora theater shooting. OK, the facts: That theater was posted with signs forbidding guns within the establishment. The town of Aurora is heavily controlled with regard to gun ownership. The police chief wants Aurora to be a gun free zone. The shooter bought the gun legally, and actually went through the background check process.
So what did the people of Colorado learn from all of that:
1. Background checks do not stop crimes from being committed
2. Increased draconian gun control does not lower crime rate
3. Police having an attitude that gun control is a good thing is found to be wanting.
4. Allowing no guns in the theater did not stop the criminal.
5. A reasonable man could ascertain that if the sign were not there, perhaps some armed citizen inside could have subdued the shooter, reducing the number of casualties.
OK, all of that make sense?
If not stop reading and go away, as in a long way, as in many thousands of miles, please.
If you do, I would consider you normal and rational, because you looked at the facts and they lead you to a logical conclusion.
So with this glaring light of logic screaming the facts that what we need is actually more armed citizens, our elected leaders want in large part to take them away from us.
To a guy like me, knowing the people pulling the strings are very smart, I draw the lines to that conclusion which is, THEY are simply using the momentum of recent shooting events as a catapult to get our guns.
With the fact that DHS is buying billions of bullets, thousands of assault rifles, MRAP armored fighting vehicles, and currently restoring something between 800 to 900 prisoner camps, I have to wonder. It makes me think someone somewhere either knows something or needs a disarmed citizenry that will be easily rounded up and managed. I mean that's what logic dictates. Not the lies filled stuff we hear daily from our leaders that many of our lost youth, adolescents, and some others drink like kool-aid.
So for that very reason, the suspicion that some knucklehead communist buried in our government or perhaps controlling it through proxy might make a run on my nation, well that in itself is justification for we the people to arm ourselves to the teeth, don't you think?
In my men’s ministry class last night we were learning about the seasons of a man's life. 0-20 growing and the spring of life, 20-40 the summer characterized by acquiring knowledge, 40 something-60 the fall where we become accomplished and become mentors, and 60's and beyond, the winter where we have wisdom, are sought out for advice, and so forth.
One problem I see is that American men refuse to become Real Men. They hold off as long as they can before embracing the mature manhood that God created us to be. There are a host of 30 something men still gaming 20 or more hours a week. Gaming? Isn't that just playing, like children do? Well, deny it if you want, you'd only be lying to yourself, it is. If that took time away from bible study, communicating with your spouse or children or perhaps helping a friend, then you missed the mark...the word coming to mind is selfish.
So if men aren't maturing, then they are still just big powerful kids. Mostly brain dead and unable to reason, because reasoning is something that is a higher brain function that follows the acquisition of information (Knowledge). So while you're making the killer sniper shot in your evening round of Halo 3, someone much smarter than you and much more wicked is planning to destroy you or at least planning to neuter you.
So that leave the very, very few rest of us, who grew up, who are as smart as God intended us to be, and are paying attention. I would suggest for your own selfish future welfare, that you with your head stuck in game boy (Named that for a reason, think about it) that you find someone who has been paying attention and listen to them.
The time is fast approaching, I'm telling you. Lots of people are telling you. Get off the 6" exhaust tip and figure out what's going on. You will perish when the spoon feeding abruptly stops!
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« Reply #70 on: September 15, 2014, 05:43:33 PM »
And another:

You know, I was going to write something but I kept thinking it was just too controversial to pen and publish. But having thought about it, what I was thinking is actually the truth, so why shouldn't we just say it.

When you really think about it the Democratic Party and its loyalists are evil by nature. I believe I can support that with overwhelming facts to support my premise. Of course some Kool-Aid drinker will refute my statements, but I don't care, they are.
During the democratic convention, the authors of their platform struggled with references being made to God! Remember that? Then when they came under an avalanche of criticism, they made the very public reversal which backfired in their face. That was the act where the mayor of LA (???) stood and called for a vote to include God in the democratic platform. Remember he was booed and there was uproar from the democratic Islamic folks against the notion. Remember how the frustrated mayor called for that vote three different times? And after a thunderous rejection, he said the "Ayes" have it and the measure to include God passed. Although there was darn near an uprising against it! That was just a staged event, nothing more.
The democratic party supports same sex marriage, and that is clearly evil. The people who participate in it may not be, but the act, according to the bible is.
Democratic leaders all over the country are trying desperately to disarm the public so we will all be safer! Hog wash! Anyone with a brain knows more guns make you safer, not fewer. We all know it is a lie. The left fears (and hates) the conservatives. They ultimately want to control us, but how are you going to control 100,000,000 people who have 3 guns each?

This Democratic Party insists on giving young pregnant teenagers the right to kill their unborn children as a matter of convenience. That is murder, and Democrats and the left embrace it.
Hey if you are a democrat, sorry if this offends you, but it is true. SO if you beat that drum you are in fact supporting all these evils. I know some so called Christians who say they can see times when an abortion is OK, or when two people although they are both males should be allowed to marry. Well, I have before and I continue to do so. You are hypocrites. Jesus did not compromise. He was a real man and the only true example of the way a man should strive to live his life. He provided enough lessons and teachings for women to follow as well.
Women's movements are another evil and enthusiastically supported by our yellow spined Democrats. Movements which specifically strive to make women into something they were never intended to be are the ones I refer to. The woman as leader of the house? Wrong, she was created to be a helper to a Godly man. Women warriors? No, they were created to produce children and share in the dreams of their chosen husband, not pick up a sword and do combat. Having said that Women of all walks need to know self protection, guns, hand to hand, and other techniques, but not serve in infantry battalions.
These left leaning rose color glasses wearing types have made us weaker, emboldened our enemies and in many cases openly embarrassed them, and have caused untold American casualties.
They lack spine. They cannot tell the truth for fear they might offend someone. Why not say Islam is counter to Christianity and seeks to overpower us. Either by increasing population in places like Great Britain, or through terror all over the world, The Islamic culture is at the root of it all. So why not just say it?
They get pissed off and for folks like me, well, that doesn't matter. Let them stay that way. Sooner or later it gets the fight going that is coming anyway. Fight it now in their countries. Go after all the power bases we know of and utterly destroy them. We could then withdraw and strengthen our borders and our allies. Maybe let the 101st and 82'd Airborne divisions loose in England for a few weeks since that spineless government is all hell bent on appeasing the Allah followers.
Our Democrats would throw Christ followers into the fire in a New York second to keep from offending some Muslim and I say who cares. Let the camel jockey get pissed, know he is not amongst friends and throw a fit elsewhere. I don't see conservative politicians trying to kiss their butts and place them in seats of power all over out government. Does that make the democrats evil? Probably not in, in of itself, just overly stupid.
Is spending our economy into a "Must fail" mode responsible? Democrats want to do that as well. Democrats say we can't cut programs any deeper. I think they haven't looked hard enough. If you took everyone off of welfare who is not a citizen, there's a big savings. Next anyone on it more than two years, gone... Got to be big billions there. Next, let’s not jail illegal aliens, let’s put them to work cleaning sewers, doing dangerous jobs, and working on non critical infrastructure while they await deportation. There's a lot of money there saved. Lets drive them around in cattle cars like I was driven around in when I was a young soldier, have to save a bunch there as well.
In fact lets eliminate every support program for an illegal alien we have. If the women coming up from south of the border manage to have an "Anchor baby" here, let's remove the child from them, allow an American family to adopt the child then deport the family.
No free education for anyone who is not a citizen, but if you are, let's apply the money saved from welfare and other places and pay for free educations for Americans.
For every country like Korea where we maintain a standing Army, I'd say we give them a week to agree to pay us for that defense or we pull out and go home. That would immediately make our Armies a for profit organization. The monies they would create could be used to develop new weapons.
Eliminate any reference to the Spanish language. One day later and everything is in English.
Let's give our police a break with regard to illegal’s. Let's say they do a traffic stop and the illegal’s who might be drug runners act hostile and appear to pull a weapon. Should the police have to shoot them, then there are no repercussions when it is determined the offenders were here illegally.

All of those policies, although harsh would stop illegal immigrants cold in their tracks. Since we are spending hundreds of billions on the illegal alien problem, that money would be saved.
For the illegal’s we catch, I would send them by the millions to Fort Greely Alaska to labor camps. If they escaped they would freeze to death or be eaten by grizzly’s. The latter would have the positive effect of increasing the grizzly population which would allow for better bear hunting!

Next there would be an automatic 10% tax on every non-US imported product. If the company or country complained their complaint could be heard in court, but first that levy on their products would increase 1% more per year until the dispute was resolved.

Further we could sell our oil to OPEC, but at prices starting at 20% more than the oil trading on the Domestic market on any given day. Meanwhile I would direct all the useless money going into solar and wind technology and develop engines that ran on LNG. All the while selling oil to OPEC and the rest of the world.

How does all that tie into Democrats being evil, well it doesn't, but it does relate to them being blind and stupid, because nary a one would ever suggest anything anywhere near these measures. My plan would not only have us debt free, but could probably rebuild America and pay an annual dividend to Americans.

America would become filthy rich by world standards. I would have a democrat free council of clergy and leaders decide where 10% of every dime we made was spent. We'd spend it on strengthing similar cultures all over the world. If you were a Christian community in India, for example, let's help them build a church, while ignoring the Hindu and Muslim people who randomly kill them.

Since individual Americans would be much wealthier, a simple 10% across the board tax program would be levied and tens of thousands IRS folks be retasked or reduced. It would be a painless transition because companies would be knocking down doors to find talent.

For any American company starting up, no taxes for 5 years, then a reduced rate for five more years. Any foreign company, first based on expected sales, 10% of that would have to paid to us as an application fee. The purpose, make no mistake, would be to make it unfair toward them and more difficult to compete with a US company. See where I'm going with this? We get to pick the best companies to operate here, and if they agreed to move their monies here and become US companies, the increased fees would disappear.

Another thing that would happen is that The US would become a no-fault zone with regard to insurance. Someone runs into you, your insurance pays for everything, theirs for their costs. That would all but eliminate frivolous law suits. We'd have to do something with regard to medical care. If the doctor screwed up, we'd have to set some limits, somewhere around 10% of what it is now. Eliminating the legal costs would drive down the cost of medicine I think around 75% or perhaps a little more!

If you were an illegal alien and you had an accident then your insurance would pay for all damages and that insurance company would be fined a million dollars per incident. That would force the insurance companies to do their homework and the ancillary law would mandate that if they had knowledge of an illegal alien, they would have 24 hours to report that to law enforcement or face $100,000 a day in fines.

The Department of homeland security would be eliminated. The TSA would be eliminated. With the monies saved each state would be funded to develop a special division of their state troopers to do the same work.

I could go on, but this is a good start!
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« Reply #71 on: September 15, 2014, 06:15:28 PM »
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Don I agree loud and clear, one other thing that needs mentioned.

GOP head honcho Carl Rove just came out yesterday and said we need to find some "More Diverse Candidates" enough said.

This is exactly what is wrong, and that is the focus
Instead of staying on point and living or dyeing on a set of principals, some people focus on winning. That's how compromise works its way into the very moral fiber and character of a people, a nation, and a culture.

There are two Americas existing within a single border. One which strives to do things right, and one that works quietly at work, loves its neighbors and toils with the anticipation for something better with advancing years.
Then there is an evil America. This one is morally all over the place. It does not believe in strong family values. It abhors organized religion. It has no belief that people are good and smart at their core. It does not learn from lessons of the past, nor does it learn the lessons born of sacrifice and conviction. It is given in to ingratiating every fringe group you can think of and it is weak, pretty much everywhere you look within it.

Sadly I see our government running amuck chasing every whim of every kookoo dreamer in a Nazi fascist manner. They are becoming dangerous through this detachment from reality. They are moving farther and farther from the founding fathers concepts which have stood immovable for a couple hundred years. They probably believe in their hearts they are doing the right thing, and that this change is necessary and the push-back they get from us is merely the necessary birthing pains of the new American order.

But Oh are they wrong. What they really sense are the rumblings of a revolution. One that will destroy them and nearly all of us. It is coming, it seems to be engineered, and it is grossly miscalculated on their part. Unfortunately in the end and it will likely cost us our nation.

If you read my scenario in earlier writings, you already know where I see all this going.
There will, unfortunately, come a point where the Cumos, Obamas, Fenstiens, Schummers, and the like will push too far. They are doing it now. There is a point when the will of rural America will turn from one of passive obedience, and civil unrest will ensue. Make no mistake that is why Napolitano has created another Army. An Army with 1.2 billion cartridges, now feeding 7,000 automatic Assault rifles, carried by real trained troops, within military MRAPS, and protected by predator, Reaper and other aerial drone systems. That organization is being built for war. It does not have C17's and Navy ships to float or fly it somewhere to protect America. It has wheels so that it can drive from Pennsylvania to New York.

I'm just a soldier trained to see two and two and determine that I am looking at four and not twenty two. But without the benefit of a proper education, nor the strong values cultured and honed in a small little corner church, millions of Americans are convinced the leadership is correct that it is actually twenty two we are looking at. The good thing is that they are mentally weak without the resolve given through knowing a living God, and they will fail in the end. The end that is a burning, Chinese occupied America of few survivors wondering what happened.

The M-1 Musket of the revolutionary war wiped out the greatest military on the earth of the time. What do you think 100,000,000 modern weapons has the capability of doing? But an America that believes more in American Idol and Ironman than the God of Israel would not be listening or watching anyway. They are simply be swept around comfortably by the tides of change. With only one half of one percent of all of us actually ever having seen a real battlefield, that leaves 99.5% who don't know that horror in a personal way. Oh but the learning curve will be fast on that one, for those who are even around for round two that is.

We are at a precipice. Freedom is evaporating with every “makes no sense” compromise backroom deal our fat politicians make for the benefit of their particular special interest. When the rule of law is usurped, when the will of the people is disregarded, when our cultural tenants are thrown to abandonment, we are ruled. We live comfortably under tyranny. Under that encroaching system the assaults to our rights and freedoms become ever more spectacular. There will come a day in the not too distant future when an American(s) are turned into molecules by an American manufactured Hellfire, fired from a drone under the control of something like homeland security. It will be explained away as a necessary decision made by the commander and chief to protect Americans against some radical threat. And, in fact the victims may indeed be terrorists bent on destroying our country. So Americans will applaud the courage of the commander in chief. After all he just took decisive action to protect the people right??? I would however wonder where due process was during all those executive decisions. A thinking person would be able to connect the dots. Someone just assinated a person in America without any trial or due process of law.

Militarily speaking that could be necessary, I will admit. Frankly when I wore the uniform, if I was briefed that a group of Islamic terrorists were training in the mountains of North Carolina on a farm, I'd willingly vaporize them as well, but that's just me and according to the constitution as modified with its many laws, there should not be a outright killing, but a police type arrest, followed by an presentation of the facts in a court of our constitutional law.

If you throw all that out the window, what you have is tyranny. All you see is the proverbial tip of the iceberg with just a tiny little point sticking above the water. But to pull off something like that, there would have been organization beneath. That’s lots of people in high, middle and low places. That's resources. That’s a lot of good people who have been surgically extracted from the organizations to make the way of hell a ready path.
And where is America during all of this? Well, other than watching a rerun of Gold Rush, or consuming two more Big Macs on their way to a disease born of overeating of processed foods, or some other diversion, they are mostly asleep at the wheel.

But not all of us. No some, Americans have an independent, educated, and self controlled mind. A person capable of thinking being able to ferret out of the evening news the truth and not the crafted script that is being spoon fed to the stupid masses. If you want an example of our running intelligence level, gentlemen, look no further than the pages of this very web site. So many of the youngsters here write with a very telling absence of grammar and literary skills. Too large a number of people are pretty stupid these days. Most wonder what I just wrote while they wonder why it was that they actually voted for Obama.

Well, some day there is a reckoning coming. One where we will be judged. Where did we stand? What did we do when called upon? Did we just turn a blind eye to it all, or did we take a stand regardless of the consequences. Some things, you see, are worth living for, and if necessary, dying for. My God of Abraham is one and well beneath him the concept of a free America is as well. But America, where is your courage???
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« Reply #72 on: September 15, 2014, 06:17:36 PM »
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Dallas CAIR Director: “Muslims Are Above the Law of the Land.”

Again, just another news story that came across my FB wall.


Remember CAIR sponsors terror
They are very smart
They are decieving
For them the end result justifies any means
They have no honor
They are liars
In fact, they are the enemy

Tell ya folks you need to draw a line and decide what side of it you are on.

Compromise with them is nothing more that a weakness

Sooner or later we either give up Christ and our Christian faiths or we meet them on a battlefield. I've chosen have all of you?
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« Reply #73 on: September 15, 2014, 06:18:32 PM »
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The Gov is really insane if they think they're gonna be able to control any kind of civil unrest seeing as how every citizen owns a gun even with their mighty Navistar trucks. When sh!t finally hits the fan, it's gonna look like Syria on a large scale
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Unfortunately, you are wrong.
The population, which is totally unpreparred, in most cases fat, sick, and lost without "The bachelor" will be out of water in three days and starving in a week.

They will be coming to goverment centers by the millions looking for help. The ensuing run on critical infastructure will need a lot more than 2700 MRAPS to control those crowds, but the vehicles, along with the national guard will do little more than protection of critical infastructure, goverment facilities, and convoy protection. Every thing else and every where else will be no man's land.

The goverment almost has a collective intelligence all of it's own, which instead of saying "give my everything, then my dying breath to my people", through its actions seems to be saying, "at all costs, I must survive."

Only morons haven't figured that out yet. Personally, I don't see it as a negative. The dependent sheeple will find themselves a prisioner to their cities and that means they won't be out in our countryside!

Cities only work with civilization. MRAPS are needed when all of that breaks down...
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« Reply #74 on: September 15, 2014, 06:21:06 PM »
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You might THINK I'm wrong, and that is your opinion.

I'm not really sure where you are from but "helpless" is the last thing to describe the population of my home. Sick, fat and tv obsessed is far from the reality I grew up with. Not everyone is from the suburbs

Besides the citizens of every country aren't just super soldiers ready to defend themselves from the government who have spent their lives learning to be "rambo". Have you not learned from history? The revolutionary war was nothing more than farmers fighting the actual ARMY of England. The Syrian war is nothing more than a bunch of starved citizens who close their eyes, point their guns around around corners and pull the trigger and yet their far from beaten.

Every government has fallen in history and it wasn't always at the hands of some superior army from another country. Our country if anything would be one of the best to fight it's own government. We have more access to weapons than anyone on the planet and our country is vast. It took us 6 years to conquer a bunch of muslims hiding in mountains in Afghanistan. Imagine our people dug into the Appalachians with the resources we have? ha. good luck. It'll be nam all over again

You have taken me all wrong, perhaps I didn't express myself clearly...
No worries
Not about you
I know a little about this subject which allows me to make these statements of conjecture. I spent more than 5 years in places like Afgnistan, Baghdad, and other same-same spots. I had the timing to be there when things were not so good. I learned first hand how choked urban centers react to failing infastructure. Barbaric is a word that comes to mind. As a Career solider of two and a half decades, I saw quite a bit. As an officer I was a party to a lot of big picture stuff. As a special operations guy, I saw how goverments are engineered to implode by others. As a Christian, I have seen individuals suffering. As a father, I have seen dead children, as a guy living in the mayhem, I have known no rest and constant fear and worry.

Then as a citizen, I have flown home to the US to witness masses of very overweight people, having flown from airports replete with healthy looking people. THe fat ones there were usually American tourists.

Have you ever seen a mob driven my hungar? It is one that will dare gunfire to get a handful of rice. It gets a little crazy...

People are people. Most of the ones I observe hardly know what kind of boot to buy, they know nothing of fighting, evading, moving across the ground and surviving. I teach survival some to people and seldom if ever does anyone know the essentials. I have seen hand lotion and comfort items in bug out bags...no concept of reality there.

Harsh in saying it, but true, none the less. Without a lot of support, those folks won't be around for long. The folks dependent on 911 will be without protection. People without food and water will be hungry and will perish. The people who can get help from uncle sugar in urban areas will be doing what big brother says, when he says it, or they won't eat. It's really that simple.

Will there be resistance, oh yes. And will patroitic Americans win in the end?? I think so. We have resolve. We have some preparation, we have some resolve and a spine, all of which seems to be missing in a large number of Americans now, it would seem.

I only have to cite actual numbers and statistics.
How many people have food reserves, which they can actually protect?
How many have silver pigeon holed away? How many have weapons and ammo and know how to use them? How many people served in the military? How many people actually have a clue at all?

Nuff said, beyond a presentation and analysis of the facts, it's all gaming anyway...
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« Reply #75 on: September 15, 2014, 06:22:59 PM »
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The one huge thing that many people seem to forget....our country and our government are only worth something to the world at the moment because we buy stuff. That's it. The American people are huge consumers which is why countries like China put up with our huge debt and refusal to pay money back....do you think those countries are going to support a failing government whos people have rebelled and no longer fill the pockets of foreign countries as they once did? UH NO.

Our government is not nearly as strong as you think. They could be easily crippled at anytime. We have burned so many bridges and hold so many people under our thumbs that when the time finally comes when America needs help and is vulnerable...they won't help them(the US gov).

The people re-take govs just as a wild fire returns all life to the earth. Ours will fall, and it will be by our hands


Not picking on you here friend, but there is something else the rest of the world wants from us?
Any idea what that might be?
Who holds the largest known oil reserves on the planet?
Saudi Arabia?? Kuwait? Iran?
Not even close. One country's reserves dwarf's thise nation's reserves and that is us, as in the U.S. of A.
So will they come to help?
Yep they sure will. Under the peaceful trojan horse called the UN, if we fall into civil war, I'm betting that a million or so Chinese peace keepers along with some europeans and of course our close allies, the Russians (taking Alaska) will be here to help us out of our difficulties. THe problem is they will never leave!
China has the largest industrial economy on earth thanks to things like NAFTA which we did and on oil to run their machines. You think they are getting it from Russia? Nope, China and Russia are going to go at it some day. From Saudi Arabia?? Saudi is quietly running out. UAE has 2 years oil reserves tops. Iran has a bunch, but China has bought all of it until the year 3035. THat leaves south America, some fields in New Guniea, some in Africa and the already developed fields of America.
No Sir, this thing falls apart and our destroyed American goverment with it's military in disarray will not stop a millions of Chinese peace keepers from dropping right in.
The future does not look good. THe thought of fighting fellow Americans is too much to contemplate and the civil war, our bloodiest, is a good example to what awaits us down that road. But having knocked our heads againt each other for a while, and then having to face little people with AK-47's is not going to be a picnic...
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« Reply #76 on: September 15, 2014, 06:24:16 PM »
only problem with my mentality is, what happens if all these people don't have the drive and determination I hope that they do? Bunch of fat clueless F**ks just cower down because their macbook was taken away and all the sudden we are kinda short hand on help. Idk, like you said I just hope that when it happens people will have the balls to wake up and face the music they've tried so hard to ignore.

Well reason it out.
Logic dictates they don't make it. They won't have adequate food, nor water. Disease will rise up. Law and order will break down and give rise to anarchy. TWho comes out on top, the quiet cul-de-sac over there or the biker gang two streets down?
People requireing medical treatment? Diabetics, people undergoing cancer treatment or with heart problems? You think they suddenly have time for a crash workout program to a healthy lifestyle? Nope, they're on life support or cut off.
The surviving goverment will triage them. If you can work, and are not a burden, you get fed, if not, where would you put your very limited resources if you had half a chance of saving a few?
If you haven't taken responsibility for your own life, sa' live'...fast approaching sub terranian permanent homestead.

Out in the rural areas, are the people going to rise up and do flash mobs? Not likely. I think they will hunker down and work together to get through it. I think they will share and donate and give, and help and will meet at the church on sunday at noon by walking there and will get through it.

We won't be seeing many MRAPS in the country, except to protect a convoy of trucks sent to collect food and supplies. We may have to answer that with armed resistance, dunno. Given the choice of my family surviving or some former meth addict in the hood, I vote for my family. Almost everyone who is aware shares that view. So maybe the MRAPS don't come. After a year, estimates I have seen show something from 250 million or more Americans dead. THat makes feeding the remaining folks much easier, especially with the rice scraps from the Chinese soldiers!
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« Reply #79 on: September 15, 2014, 06:27:58 PM »
From Nate:

Ok, lets see if I can get this out in words like it is in my head. Gotta remember that I am not as edumacated as don is.

What I am getting at here is that we really have no way of telling if they were good men or if they were bad men. Unless, we were alive during their terms and of such a state of mind to actually know the difference of what was going on and able to make our own determinations. Now with that being said, we only have 3 sources of information that we can use to make our opinions with. 1. being all of the one sided or biased litterateur that has been written about them (because how can we trust or know if what we are reading is the actual truth, because we do not know from our own experiences or that the person writing it wrote the actual truth being able to keep their own opinions and beliefs out of it?) 2. The same statement goes for all of the media coverage of said men. 3. The last thing that we have to go on is what we are told by our parents, family, people we know, etc. Now with that we are being told information that may or may not be actual fact and whether or not it has been spun with their beliefs, morals, etc?

Now being an individual that has seen many of things in this world first hand, I have come to rely on fact. Now when I say fact, I am talking about what can I actually see with my own eyes, what can I touch with my hands, what can I hear with my ears, etc. to me there are a few things that I know to be fact with Roosevelt that make me turn more to the side of him doing a good job as president. I will limit it to 4 examples, 2 of which somewhat co-inside with each other. 1. He was an avid outdoorsman and put a lot of things into effect to protect wild animals and our beautiful, yes I said beautiful outdoor areas from destruction. Now, if there was some idiot that has changed that over time (EPA nazi’s, too many to name) then?! 2. He was against huge trusts or as we know it in today’s terms as monopolies. 3. Our nation’s workers at the time of him taking office were in a world of hurt financially, and he not really knowingly started the minimum wage policy which F.D.R. eventually turned into Social Security and federal minimum wage act. 4. Roosevelt established the FDA.

So to sum it up, that is why in my opinion I believe that Roosevelt was a good president. Now can I say that about Clinton to our current BOOB, no! I believe that we as a country have let Washington get too damn big and too controlling, and the position of president has been so skewed from what our four fathers had intended it to be.
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Prepare, for the Typhoon is coming soon:

A commentary from an Australian...

Note: I have long known Australians and New Zealanders. THey are good stock and plain speaking. Unlike an increasing number of anestised Americans, they "get it"






A CREDIBLE ANALYSIS...

The Obama Watch - His Queeg Moment
By Hal G.P. Colebatch on 1.29.13 @ 6:07AM

A perspective on our president from Down Under. ( Australia ?)

In Herman Wouk's classic World War II novel, The Caine Mutiny, there is a moment when a group of the ship's officers are getting away from the increasingly eccentric Captain Queeq by relaxing ashore.

Suddenly the malcontent Lieutenant Keefer asks the others: "Does it occur to you that Captain Queeg may be insane?

In fact Queeg is not insane, at least not at that time. He is simply grappling, more and more disastrously, with a job too big for him. Come the crisis of a typhoon, he becomes paralyzed and nearly sinks the ship by failing to give the obvious orders. At the subsequent court-martial he appears quite normal until he breaks down under the pressure of cross-examination. Before this, the officers have searched the regulations for guidance, but the regulations refer only to a captain who is clearly and unmistakably insane, not one who is merely guilty of eccentricity and bad judgment. At a lower level of responsibility, Queeg might have performed adequately, but with Keefer's question, the remaining respect for Queeg's office has gone.

Obama's second inauguration speech may be his Queeg moment — an undeniable demonstration that, in an emergency, he is incapable of grappling with reality. For all his unceasing invocation of the word "change," the outstanding thing about Obama has been his apparent inability to react, even to an imminent crisis. Like Queeg, he stands frozen on the bridge as the waves grow higher, or obsesses over issues like homosexuals and women in the military as the typhoon rises.

Faced with the worst looming fiscal cliff-fall in world history Obama, like Queeg in the typhoon, has done nothing at all, but has, increasingly, resorted to meaningless words.

His pseudo-Keynesian fiscal notions and a mantra-like repetition of old and failed ideas, suggest a serious lack on mental versatility.

Economics is not an exact science, but some of its rules are now well-known, and one is that a government cannot spend its way out of a recession.

Yet Obama does not project any sense of urgency, merely a smug, radiating sense of his own greatness. The one fiscal measure to which he seems committed — taxing the rich — is infantile stuff, like Queeg's obsession with who ate the wardroom strawberries.

Any first-year politics or economics student knows that there are not enough rich, even in as wealthy a country as the United States, to have raising their taxes make any appreciable difference. President Reagan's application of the Laffer Curve proved emphatically, and only a short while ago, that the way to both stimulate the economy and to increase government revenues is to lower taxes. And it is not hard to pick some areas as least where towering taxes would make no appreciable difference to public infrastructure.

Like Queeg, Obama shows an inability to change course when such a change is desperately needed. Giving 20 F-16 fighters and hundreds of tanks to Egypt was never, in my opinion, a clever idea. Even when Egypt was an unequivocal friend its security required things like armored cars to put down street violence, not these hi-tech weapons whose only conceivable use would be against Israel. Indeed, Obama seems to show no awareness that Egypt and other major Islamic countries have changed from being friends to something like enemies in a few months.

For a President of the United States there is a difference between making a bad policy choice and clinging to that policy when it is plainly completely wrong, like the Caine steaming in a circle and cutting its own tow-line. Mistakes that cannot be ignored are always someone else's fault (refer George Bush).

The dancing is still there, the golf, the celebs, the multi-million dollar holidays, but behind them it is possible to detect a desperate emptiness, a interconnected mosaic of failure.

The one much-boasted triumph, the killing of Osama Bin Laden, was the work of other men. One of those most responsible, Dr. Shakil Afridi, rots in the hellhole of a Pakistani jail, abandoned.

Obama's oath to bring the Benghazi murderers to justice seems to have been forgotten as soon as it was made, something — I am not sure if there is a word for it — actually below the level of a campaign promise.

Allies have been lost or slighted in almost every part of the world, the Afghan war has brought the U..S and NATO humiliation and Russia and China lead in Space. The defenses of the U.S. 's major allies, such as Britain, are in an even more dire situation.

This does not even consider the exploding levels of domestic poverty. Restoring flexibility to the wage system, so as to give American industry a reasonable degree of competitiveness, seems out of the question.

The Western position in Mali seems to have suddenly collapsed without warning, or without preventative action being taken, and meanwhile, we have had the North Korean threat. I somehow doubt we would have had that if Reagan had been at the helm. What, exactly, have things come to when a cockroach of a country, apparently run by real, certifiable lunatics, can threaten the United States with nuclear weapons?

The typhoon waves are starting to break over the bridge.
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« Reply #81 on: September 15, 2014, 06:30:25 PM »
Time for a national discussion on these DHS MRAPS and 1.6+ billion rounds of ammo:





1.6 Billion Rounds Of Ammo For Homeland Security? It's Time For A National Conversation
Ralph Benko
3/11/2013





The Denver Post, on February 15th, ran an Associated Press article entitled Homeland Security aims to buy 1.6b rounds of ammo, so far to little notice. It confirmed that the Department of Homeland Security has issued an open purchase order for 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition. As reported elsewhere, some of this purchase order is for hollow-point rounds, forbidden by international law for use in war, along with a frightening amount specialized for snipers. Also reported elsewhere, at the height of the Iraq War the Army was expending less than 6 million rounds a month. Therefore 1.6 billion rounds would be enough to sustain a hot war for 20+ years. In America.

Add to this perplexing outré purchase of ammo, DHS now is showing off its acquisition of heavily armored personnel carriers, repatriated from the Iraqi and Afghani theaters of operation. As observed by “paramilblogger” Ken Jorgustin last September:

[T]he Department of Homeland Security is apparently taking delivery (apparently through the Marine Corps Systems Command, Quantico VA, via the manufacturer – Navistar Defense LLC) of an undetermined number of the recently retrofitted 2,717 ‘Mine Resistant Protected’ MaxxPro MRAP vehicles for service on the streets of the United States.”

These MRAP’s ARE BEING SEEN ON U.S. STREETS all across America by verified observers with photos, videos, and descriptions.”

Regardless of the exact number of MRAP’s being delivered to DHS (and evidently some to POLICE via DHS, as has been observed), why would they need such over-the-top vehicles on U.S. streets to withstand IEDs, mine blasts, and 50 caliber hits to bullet-proof glass? In a war zone… yes, definitely. Let’s protect our men and women. On the streets of America… ?”

“They all have gun ports… Gun Ports? In the theater of war, yes. On the streets of America…?

Seriously, why would DHS need such a vehicle on our streets?”

Why indeed? It is utterly inconceivable that Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano is planning a coup d’etat against President Obama, and the Congress, to install herself as Supreme Ruler of the United States of America. There, however, are real signs that the Department bureaucrats are running amok. About 20 years ago this columnist worked, for two years, in the U.S. Department of Energy’s general counsel’s office in its procurement and finance division. And is wise to the ways. The answer to “why would DHS need such a vehicle?” almost certainly is this: it’s a cool toy and these (reportedly) million dollar toys are being recycled, without much of a impact on the DHS budget. So… why not?

Why, indeed, should the federal government not be deploying armored personnel carriers and stockpiling enough ammo for a 20-year war in the homeland? Because it’s wrong in every way. President Obama has an opportunity, now, to live up to some of his rhetoric by helping the federal government set a noble example in a matter very close to his heart (and that of his Progressive base), one not inimical to the Bill of Rights: gun control. The federal government can (for a nice change) begin practicing what it preaches by controlling itself.

Remember the Sequester? The president is claiming its budget cuts will inconvenience travelers by squeezing essential services provided by the (opulently armed and stylishly uniformed) DHS. Quality ammunition is not cheap. (Of course, news reports that DHS is about to spend $50 million on new uniforms suggests a certain cavalier attitude toward government frugality.)

Spending money this way is beyond absurd well into perverse. According to the AP story a DHS spokesperson justifies this acquisition to “help the government get a low price for a big purchase.” Peggy Dixon, spokeswoman for the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center: “The training center and others like it run by the Homeland Security Department use as many as 15 million rounds every year, mostly on shooting ranges and in training exercises.”

At 15 million rounds (which, in itself, is pretty extraordinary and sounds more like fun target-shooting-at-taxpayer-expense than a sensible training exercise) … that’s a stockpile that would last DHS over a century. To claim that it’s to “get a low price” for a ridiculously wasteful amount is an argument that could only fool a career civil servant.

Meanwhile, Senator Diane Feinstein, with the support of President Obama, is attempting to ban 100 capacity magazine clips. Doing a little apples-to-oranges comparison, here, 1.6 billion rounds is … 16 million times more objectionable.

Mr. Obama has a long history of disdain toward gun ownership. According to Prof. John Lott, in Debacle, a book he co-authored with iconic conservative strategist Grover Norquist,

“When I was first introduced to Obama (when both worked at the University of Chicago Law School, where Lott was famous for his analysis of firearms possession), he said, ‘Oh, you’re the gun guy.’

I responded: ‘Yes, I guess so.’

’I don’t believe that people should own guns,’ Obama replied.

I then replied that it might be fun to have lunch and talk about that statement some time.

He simply grimaced and turned away. …

Unlike other liberal academics who usually enjoyed discussing opposing ideas, Obama showed disdain.”

Mr. Obama? Where’s the disdain now? Cancelling, or at minimum, drastically scaling back — by 90% or even 99%, the DHS order for ammo, and its receipt and deployment of armored personnel carriers, would be a “fourfer.”

The federal government would set an example of restraint in the matter of weaponry.
It would reduce the deficit without squeezing essential services.
It would do both in a way that was palatable to liberals and conservatives, slightly depolarizing America.
It would somewhat defuse, by the government making itself less armed-to-the-teeth, the anxiety of those who mistrust the benevolence of the federales.
If Obama doesn’t show any leadership on this matter it’s an opportunity for Rep. Darrell Issa, chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, and Rep. Michael McCaul, chairman of the House Committee on Homeland Security, to summon Secretary Napolitano over for a little national conversation. Madame Secretary? Buying 1.6 billion rounds of ammo and deploying armored personnel carriers runs contrary, in every way, to what “homeland security” really means. Discuss.
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« Reply #83 on: September 15, 2014, 06:38:51 PM »
another CIEMR:

I heard wise and Godly man, a Neuro-Surgeon talk recently about the destruction of a culture. Using is vast reasoning ability and considerable intellect, he made the following observation:
He said if he were in a position of power, say in the white house, for example, and he wanted to bring down the nation he would do it by first creating division amongst the people. He would encourage a culture of ridicule of the basic principles that made the country great in the first place, such as our morality. He would continue to undermine the security of the nation through a systematic destruction of the financial system, and finally he would culturally and morally, weaken the military!
Did you get that?
1. Create division in the people
2. Create ridicule for our basic morality
3. Destroy our financial security
4. Weaken the military

Four tenants to get done and the ruin of the nation follows. Not just a nation which now lives in some depraved situation a bit worse off that we are now. No, a nation in ruin! Show me if you will some part of the nation of the Carthaginians? The Romans? The Vikings? Celts? Mayans? Incans? Apache? Ming Dynasty?

Show me a land mass that is governed and solely regulated by those people or cultures. You can fly me to Rome for $849, but I will not be in the Roman culture, I will be in Italy. I can visit the coliseum as it exists in a museum state, but not what it was. You might argue I can enter an Apache Indian reservation and even find a few reservation police, but thousands of mighty warriors? Not going to happen.
All these cultures are gone. Only the scattered remains of their people remain. Those people are subject to the law, rule and culture to someone else who conquered them and essentially, rule them now. Those once great cultures and nations went through a terribly destructive process that led them by their own hand to their complete devastation and demise. What went on after Rome fell? Was it the age of enlightment? Or was it called the Dark Ages. That’s ages as in more than one, and for those guilty of being stupid, Read: a very long time!

When America falls, after we stop killing each other and roughly a fifth to a tenth of our population remains, we too will be added to my former list, to fade into the annals of history for some future generation to ponder about. If and when an America that remains on it’s present trajectory fails there will be destruction and suffering on a scale that has never been known by man. There won’t be any relief, just survival, and just barely by a few. I almost said a fortunate few, but that manner of living won’t be anything to, well, live for. Then on top of all that after we have gone against and through each other until barely two in ten remain, foreign invaders will come to our shores, and by the millions. They will come because despite our desperate situation we will still be sitting on top of the most abundant oil and natural gas supply on the planet. They, the invaders will not have a lot of resources to waste on us. We will be assimilated into their work force or disposed of.

Let’s take another look at that short list of four items the brilliant doctor mentioned:

The first, create division in the people. Hmmm, what would you call this constant pointing out of the wealthy and in light of the fact that the poor have nothing? Mending wounds? Understanding? I don’t think so. It seems more like the focus on the wealthy, who, by the way create the economic engine for everyone to work and earn money are being called out. The long crooked, hypocritical finger of government is pointed at them, center mass in a very accusing manner. They have so much…Isn’t it time to level the playing field just a little the government demands.

What about race? Isn’t that starting to crop up again with all its ugly ways. Are whites once again privileged and blacks oppressed? Amidst all our efforts and laws is it possible that black people are once again being prejudiced against. I think not, at least for the most part. I think it is nothing more than the effort of a few to gain unfair advantage while riding the coattails of some waning law to get a foot forward. Anyone with a brain knows that race should make no difference, just the quality of the person. To even go to a race based argument is archaic, hateful, inaccurate, and tends to paint too broad a stroke since we are all beautiful individuals created by God.

How about the 99% ers? Is that a group bent on understanding and working together? Or is it one set by design to destroy and disrupt the efforts of generations. It seems to this Kentuckian that the latter is very much in play and people of money and influence both spawn and finance this malignant effort to kill peaceful society.

So I think we can agree that there is division of our society taking place on many levels and in many ways. So on to item number two: What about creating ridicule about our morality? Let me see, in the past few years suddenly the values of the mainstream American is off balance. The America that knew the nuclear family was the root of our strength. Especially when that family was firmly rooted in a faith that honored and worshiped God. He is real of course, however a growing percentage of our population doesn’t seem to go along with that notion. So if we hear morality from the pulpit on Sundays, then a direct, however subtle attack on that pulpit could weaken the message, eat away at the morality that streams from it directly from the bible through the words of Godly inspired men. Take a whack at that and you are chopping down the tree of moral fabric.

So on that count, let me see…hmmm a gay bishop in the American Episcopal church comes to mind. Gay marriages does as well and of course the recent relaxing of our military’s standards against gay members. Let me caveat here, I do not like to single out the gay thing. I know gay people and they are often great people. In my view their lifestyle is against God and I disagree with it totally, but I try to love them as people. My book of morality NIV version, if you please, says to love the sinner, but hate the sin. OKey dokey, I’m good with that!

How about the gun control thing. Anyone with a brain knows gun control only involves things like a steady air, proper operation of the safety, trigger, magazines and so forth, and perhaps proper storage of the weapon.

But in the very modern context, certain powerful fools want us to believe that certain guns are more dangerous than others. Hog-wash, all guns are dangerous. AR-15’s are no more or less dangerous than a .22 single shot. If I give an infant the AR-15 and an ex military guy a .22 single fire, who do you think will create the most havoc?

Never the less the legal debate continues. The second amendment does not concern itself with defense of oneself against violent criminals. It was designed to give we the people the ability to march on Washington and take back our country if the need arises. Personally being a combat veteran, I would prefer 30 or even 60 round magazines as opposed to 10 rounder’s if I had to go up against those defending a dying government with all its magnificent killing devices.

I think we can agree that the good doctors second point is in valid and indeed underway. So on to his third point, the destruction of our financial system. Does this even require any explanation what so ever? It’s math. We take in X amount. We spend, however X + 100. So we have to borrow the 100. Who lends us the 100? Well, lots of places, but mostly foreign countries and mostly China. We borrow the money as well from ourselves! And how does that work? Well something called the Federal reserve is endowed to maintain the money supply. Lately they have been printing it. They print it, then loan it to banks at almost no interest. The banks in turn loan it back to us at, yup, you guessed it, with interest! Hmmm. Pretty good system until someone finally figures out that’s it nothing more than paper, and perhaps not even that, but just a number in a computer file somewhere.

So the money is not backed up. The extra comes from other countries. What happens when those countries try to collect the money we owe them in something like Gold or silver? Well, as long as there is a lot of the metal, nothing. I buy silver and I have noticed that that pretty metal is drying up. Becoming more and more difficult to find in quantity. China is buying all of it and of gold that it can. So when that magic moment finally arrives when they have 90% of the gold and we have say 1% and they both call in their debt and refuse to loan a penny? At that exact moment, the big banks will all stop operations. They will close. The smaller banks we deal with will also within hours. Now your debit and credit cards will not work. You will run out of gas and be stranded. Businesses will fail to open because they will exhaust what they have and or their employees will not show. Hunger will set start in as few as maybe a week. Rioting, stealing and escalating violence immediately follows that. The call for marshal law which will happen on day two or three will do little to stop the flash mob burning of our cities and urban areas that will quickly follow. With all of that infrastructure will be damaged to the point where it would take years to repair if ever, and, well, for all intents and purposed, we will never again get back to the carefree America we enjoy today. The rest is morbid and bad, but use your imagination…

So with scholars everywhere knowing all about this and talking about it, what are we doing? Well continuing to borrow money. We enact bail out after bailout, and adopt a healthcare system which immediately inherits 30 million freeloaders and punishes hospitals for not fixing things the first time. With the decreasing financial benefit to becoming a doctor, they have already started retiring by the thousands and fewer are being created. In Canada you might wait months for an MRI, where my daughter went to the hospital emergency room last night and got one while she was there within a couple hours. Canadians have long come to the US to get those MRI’s to take back to their socialized doctors in an effort to get treatment speeded up.

We continue to enact new programs, and build bigger government. We are actually creating another Army, the DHS, department of homeland security with recent purchases of 7,000 M4 carbines, 2700 MRAP, mine resistant wheeled fighting vehicles, and nearly 2 billion (2,000,000,000) cartridges! Rumor also has it that they are maintain and refurbishing around 800 prisoner confinement facilities! Hmmm, that’s a lot of military stuff! So why build a new military? If we are under that much threat, why not just retask the Army to defend us like they are designed to do? That’s another subject all together, but none the less, building an Army like that is a pretty expensive proposition given these difficult economic times. It makes me wonder that if that doesn’t play into the intentional bankrupting of our country, while giving someone the controls to a pretty well equipped extra police force!

Finally the weakening of the military. Anyone think the military is growing stronger? Well from a material and manpower standpoint, from over a decade of war, our equipment is getting pretty worn out. We are reducing the number of armed soldiers as a cost fighting measure. Personally, I’d rather take some welfare professional recipient off her SRX caddy and put her in a job, and save a soldier, but that’s just me. Or not provide a free home to some immigrant and save a squad of rifle marines, again, I’m old and stuck in my ways, so perhaps I just need to move on. On a footnote of interest, I apparently will be encouraged to do so from an ObamaCare standpoint. I think that cancer treatment for people over age 70 is now somewhat burdensome so they will not be offered it any longer. Whatever, I’m going to heaven and that’s a far sight better than this growing hell in the very place I once called the greatest country on earth.

The gays were always in the military. We knew it and it somehow worked. The idea of men necking on men is highly offensive to me and, well, most of my fellow warriors. So is the thought of a bare breasted, recently raped dead female soldier being dragged behind a truck being seen by the world. That happened to a crew chief in my unit and for my part, I just think that if that had been a female, it would have been worse. Frankly, when the first she is captured, the guys, being the macho bunch we tend to be will go crazy trying to protect “our girl” and that will get more of us killed than would have been the case, but foolish people who never served in dangerous billets like combat made those calls.

Having Gays openly serving in the military has weakened the strength of our force. Operational officers cannot tell you that, or they will be silently killed, through receiving less than glowing OER (officer evaluation reports) and therefore deselected for promotion. The bigger category here is political correctness. PC is death by a thousand paper cuts. It barely shows at first, but there is an injury. You see, even though the social liberal are pushing us forward at breakneck speed, fuelled by the stupidity of the administration, they are not at all in touch with natural law. Natural law, that flowing from our God is what is right. If you don’t find it there, endorsed by him, then it just isn’t going to work. So the Gay thing will only lead to destruction (Reference Sodom and Gomorrah). To introduce it into our military will only serve to weaken that moral organization like a growing tumor does the body.

In a more amazing way, the military is coming more and more under the control of the executive branch. I recently was forwarded a photo from a senior officer for whom I once served. It showed 5 nuclear carriers tied up at the same pier! Alongside them were several straight deck carriers as well! Let me say plainly, never once since the battleships were all anchored together at Pearl Harbor has this happened. All of our capital ships sitting together. Apparently they were ordered in for routing maintenance at the same time! W H AAA T????
No that doesn’t happen, well not since December of 1941!

The bigger problem is that you, America has become so under educated and stupid that you can no longer make intelligent choices. Most of you do not understand very much of anything. You see the government was set up this way so that an educated population could carefully watch over the goings-on of their government therefore preventing any missteps. But what happens when the population is no longer educated? Anyone think the 99%ers are really smart guys? They don’t even know personal hygiene.

So because so many of you have let your country down by not maintain personal standards of intelligence, the leftist few are and have been free to run amuck. The few remaining who actually have a brain are working overtime to try to plug the dyke, but we have about run out of fingers.

So in conclusion I say, get ready, for it is coming. Most of you created it through drinking the kool-aid and not questioning things. You have not served or done a single thing to help and only look out for your selfish needs. I think you will perish in the coming national tribulation, and it will be because of your own design. For the rest of us, build it, dig in, get healthy, prepare. And get right with God, for soon enough he will probably be all that you have left!
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« Reply #84 on: September 15, 2014, 06:40:38 PM »
From Shawn:

Being that Don is preoccupied momentarily I thought it my duty to entertain all of you. This one here is for Ashley our mighty deer hunter and farmer.....

Why we shoot deer in the wild:

(A letter from someone who wants to remain anonymous, who farms, writes well and actually tried this)

I had this idea that I could rope a deer, put it in a stall, feed it up on corn for a couple of weeks, then kill it and eat it. The first step in this adventure was getting a deer. I figured that, since they congregate at my cattle feeder and do not seem to have much fear of me when we are there (a bold one will sometimes come right up and sniff at the bags of feed while I am in the back of the truck not 4 feet away), it should not be difficult to rope one, get up to it and toss a bag over its head (to calm it down) then hog tie it and transport it home.

I filled the cattle feeder then hid down at the end with my rope. The cattle, having seen the roping thing before, stayed well back. They were not having any of it. After about 20 minutes, my deer showed up-- 3 of them. I picked out a likely looking one, stepped out from the end of the feeder, and threw my rope. The deer just stood there and stared at me. I wrapped the rope around my waist and twisted the end so I would have a good hold.

The deer still just stood and stared at me, but you could tell it was mildly concerned about the whole rope situation. I took a step towards it, it took a step away. I put a little tension on the rope, and then received an education. The first thing that I learned is that, while a deer may just stand there looking at you funny while you rope it, they are spurred to action when you start pulling on that rope.

That deer EXPLODED. The second thing I learned is that pound for pound, a deer is a LOT stronger than a cow or a colt. A cow or a colt in that weight range I could fight down with a rope and with some dignity. A deer-- no Chance. That thing ran and bucked and twisted and pulled. There was no controlling it and certainly no getting close to it. As it jerked me off my feet and started dragging me across the ground, it occurred to me that having a deer on a rope was not nearly as good an idea as I had originally imagined. The only upside is that they do not have as much stamina as many other animals.

A brief 10 minutes later, it was tired and not nearly as quick to jerk me off my feet and drag me when I managed to get up. It took me a few minutes to realize this, since I was mostly blinded by the blood flowing out of the big gash in my head. At that point, I had lost my taste for corn-fed venison. I just wanted to get that devil creature off the end of that rope.

I figured if I just let it go with the rope hanging around its neck, it would likely die slow and painfully somewhere. At the time, there was no love at all between me and that deer. At that moment, I hated the thing, and I would venture a guess that the feeling was mutual. Despite the gash in my head and the several large knots where I had cleverly arrested the deer's momentum by bracing my head against various large rocks as it dragged me across the ground, I could still think clearly enough to recognize that there was a small chance that I shared some tiny amount of responsibility for the situation we were in. I didn't want the deer to have to suffer a slow death, so I managed to get it lined back up in between my truck and the feeder - a little trap I had set before hand...kind of like a squeeze chute. I got it to back in there and I started moving up so I could get my rope back.

Did you know that deer bite? They do! I never in a million years would have thought that a deer would bite somebody, so I was very surprised when ..... I reached up there to grab that rope and the deer grabbed hold of my wrist. Now, when a deer bites you, it is not like being bit by a horse where they just bite you and slide off to then let go. A deer bites you and shakes its head--almost like a pit bull. They bite HARD and it hurts.

The proper thing to do when a deer bites you is probably to freeze and draw back slowly. I tried screaming and shaking instead. My method was ineffective.

It seems like the deer was biting and shaking for several minutes, but it was likely only several seconds. I, being smarter than a deer (though you may be questioning that claim by now), tricked it. While I kept it busy tearing the tendons out of my right arm, I reached up with my left hand and pulled that rope loose.

That was when I got my final lesson in deer behavior for the day.

Deer will strike at you with their front feet. They rear right up on their back feet and strike right about head and shoulder level, and their hooves are surprisingly sharp... I learned a long time ago that, when an animal -like a horse --strikes at you with their hooves and you can't get away easily, the best thing to do is try to make a loud noise and make an aggressive move towards the animal. This will usually cause them to back down a bit so you can escape.

This was not a horse. This was a deer, so obviously, such trickery would not work. In the course of a millisecond, I devised a different strategy. I screamed like a woman and tried to turn and run. The reason I had always been told NOT to try to turn and run from a horse that paws at you is that there is a good chance that it will hit you in the back of the head. Deer may not be so different from horses after all, besides being twice as strong and 3 times as evil, because the second I turned to run, it hit me right in the back of the head and knocked me down.

Now, when a deer paws at you and knocks you down, it does not immediately leave. I suspect it does not recognize that the danger has passed. What they do instead is paw your back and jump up and down on you while you are laying there crying like a little girl and covering your head.

I finally managed to crawl under the truck and the deer went away. So now I know why when people go deer hunting they bring a rifle with a scope......to sort of even the odds!!

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Gotta love a grunt!




Captain Terry M. Hestilow, United States Army, Retired (Examiner)


On Saturday March 23, Terry M. Hestilow, a retired Army officer with nearly 30 years of service under his belt, postedthis letter he sent to Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) this week. Hestilow wants DHS to hand over their war weapons to the Department of Defense.


The Honorable Senator John Cornyn, State of Texas
United States Senate
517 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510


Re: Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and that agencies preparation for war against citizens of the United States of America


Dear Senator Cornyn,


It is with gravest concern that I write to you today concerning the recent appropriation of weapons by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) that can only be understood as a bold threat of war by that agency, and the Obama administration, against the citizens of the United States of America. To date, DHS has been unwilling to provide to you, the elected representatives of the People, justification for recent purchases of almost 3,000 mine-resistant ambush-protected (MRAP) armored personnel carriers, 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition (with associated weapons), and other weapons systems, when, in fact, the DHS has no war mission or war making authority within the limits of the United States of America.


Significant is the fact that at the same time the Obama administration is arming his DHS for war within the limits of the United States against the People of the United States in accordance with his 2008 campaign speech claiming,



•“We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve gotta (sic) have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded [as the United States military]”–Candidate Barack Obama, 2008.


The Obama administration is deliberately defunding, overextending, and hollowing the Department of Defense; the only legitimate agency of the U.S. government with a war mission.

This act of the Obama administration stands as a glaring threat of war against our nation’s citizens! This act of the Obama administration can only be understood as a tyrannical threat against the Constitution of the United States of America! If left unresolved, the peace loving citizens who have sworn to defend the United States Constitution “against all enemies, both foreign and domestic” are left no option except to prepare to defend themselves, and the U.S. Constitution, against this Administration’s “coup” against the People and the foundations of liberty fought for and defended for the past 238 years. We have no choice if we honor our oaths.


The only proper response to this threat against the American people is for the representatives of the People, the members of the U.S. House and Senate, to demand in clear terms that the Administration cannot ignore, that the Department of Homeland Security immediately surrender their newly appropriated weapons of war to the Department of Defense (DoD). Further, since the DHS has assumed a position in the Administration to enforce the tyrannical acts of this president against the People of the United States against the limits of the United States Constitution, it remains for the United States Congress to exercise its limiting power in the balancing of powers established by our founding fathers, to disestablish and dissolve the DHS as soon as possible. One needs only to look to the rise of Adolf Hitler, and his associated DHS organizations, the SA and the SS, of 1932-1934, to see the outcome of allowing an agency of government this kind of control over the free citizens of a nation. The people of Germany could not have imagined, until it was too late, the danger of allowing a tyrant this kind of power. We must not be so naïve as to think it will not happen to us as well if we remain passive toward this power grab by the Marxist Obama administration!


Finally, for more than two centuries the nation has lived in peace at home because of the protections of our legitimate military and the many appropriate state and federal law enforcement agencies, supported by Constitutional courts. We stand today at a cross-road. Will we allow this present Administration to overthrow our United States Constitution and its legal processes to amend injustices, or, will we honor our obligations to defend the Constitution against a “domestic” enemy? Our Constitution lays out the proper methods of resolving our differences; and it does not include its overthrow by a rogue agency of a Marxist leadership at home. You, sir, are our constitutionally elected agent to defend our Constitution at home. We are counting upon you. We remain aware, however, of this present threat and will not expose ourselves as an easy prey to the authors of the destruction of our nation.


I know that this letter demands much of you. We elected you because we, the citizens of the State of Texas, believe that you are up to the task at hand and will, against all threats, honor your oath and office. We are also writing to your fellow members of the House and Senate to stand in integrity with the Constitution and against this present threat by the Obama administration and his DHS.


We refuse to surrender our Constitution or our nation!


Resolved,


Captain Terry M. Hestilow
United States Army, Retired
Fort Worth, Texas
March 23, 2013
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« Reply #87 on: September 15, 2014, 07:03:23 PM »
Good information here, I thought I'd pass it on:

I personally paid over 50K in taxes one year to the feds alone! By the time Kintucky taxed me nearly to death and I got to pay to support abortions, the building of mosques, financing of Mexicans free educations, free housing for families of 90 from Guatemala, and of course food aid to the North Korean Army (and the PLO as well), I almost had to take a loan out to buy food!
It was a good thing that I was working in Afghanistan at the time, obviously doing nothing to support my country...At least I got to eat some great Armee chow for 5 years while over there!
Don't we all live in a wonderful country! ;-))

Here it is

I'm in, all real Americans, all 200 of you, need to join me in this effort!





The Honorable Wyden
731 Hart Senate Office Building
Phone (202) 224 3254
Washington DC, 20510



Dear Senator Wyden,


As a native Oregonian and excellent customer of the Internal Revenue Service, I am writing to ask for your assistance. I have contacted the Department of Homeland Security in an effort to determine the process for becoming an illegal alien and they referred me to you.


My primary reason for wishing to change my status from U.S. Citizen to illegal alien stems from the bill which was recently passed by the Senate and for which you voted. If my understanding of this bill is accurate, as an illegal alien who has been in the United States for five years, all I need to do to become a citizen is to pay a $2,000 fine and income taxes for only three of the last five years. I know a good deal when I see one and I am anxious to get the process started before everyone figures it out.



Simply put, those of us who have been here legally have had to pay taxes every year so I'm excited about the prospect of avoiding two years of taxes in return for paying a $2,000 fine. Is there any way that I can apply to be illegal retroactively? This would yield an excellent result for me and my family because we paid heavy taxes in 2004 and 2005.


Additionally, as an illegal alien I could begin using the local emergency room as my primary health care provider. Once I have stopped paying premiums for medical insurance, my accountant figures I could save almost $10,000 a year.


Another benefit in gaining illegal status would be that my daughter would receive preferential treatment relative to her law school applications, as well as "in-state" tuition rates for many colleges throughout the United States for my son.


Lastly, I understand that illegal status would relieve me of the burden of renewing my driver's license and making those burdensome car insurance premiums. This is very important to me, given that I still have college age children driving my car. If you would provide me with an outline of the process to become illegal (retroactively if possible) and copies of the necessary forms, I would be most appreciative. Thank you for your assistance


Your Loyal Constituent, (hoping to reach "illegal alien" status rather than just a bonafide citizen of the USA)
Dale B. Rilyeu
Lebanon, Or




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« Reply #88 on: September 15, 2014, 07:04:30 PM »
It's happening right before our eyes
But weakened, mostly now-coward Americans are not willing to rise up

The Conquest of Aztlan

Could Mexico retake the southwestern United States?

Illegal crossings of the U.S.-Mexico border have doubled recently, and possibly even tripled, since the latest congressional push toward "comprehensive immigration reform" – which many consider a euphemism for amnesty.

Indeed, as journalist Katie Pavlich has reported, some border patrol agents claim illegals are coming to the U.S. in much higher numbers in just the past few months, with data from Customs and Border Protection showing 504 illegals were detected crossing in just one border sector between Feb. 5 and March 1. Only 189 were caught on camera, and just 174 of the 504 were apprehended. Of those spotted on camera, 32 were carrying huge packs believed to contain drugs and several were heavily armed.

But could, as some immigration activists openly advocate, Mexico actually retake the Southwestern part of the United States?

Not only are the Mexicans capable, but an invasion is underway, insists immigration expert Glenn Spencer.
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« Reply #89 on: September 15, 2014, 07:06:12 PM »
Originally Posted by Armalite View Post
Little more market info...




Quandary in the Markets




Stay the Course...do not be swayed by the Mainstream Media or others.






Obviously, the market right now is in a bit of a quandary - not knowing which way to move. Coming off of some poor job numbers last week this created some pause in the markets, yet this should be perceived as "good" news because it indicates that the Fed is likely to continue quantitative easing. While this may be good news for the markets, it is not good for the economy.



There is also an incredible amount of bad news coming out of Europe, as the European nations are apparently continuing to get worse. Their unemployment still limps along at over 12% - and in some countries, such as Spain and Greece, this is over 25%. Some believe that the debt which the Eurozone has racked up has become insurmountable for the European economy to ever recover from. We are seeing unrest in Nigeria and possible interruptions in the flow of oil. There are also tensions coming out of Iran. While the overall supply of oil is still fairly decent, this turmoil is beginning to drive the oil markets back up.



All in all this is a very difficult situation, as I continue to recommend good, solid companies that, in my opinion, are relatively well-priced for the 8 to 10 year time horizon. But I would like to suggest to you that you stay on a steady course - maintaining a position of cash that is considerably larger than I would certainly like to see, but nevertheless is necessary in order to hedge for the downside or potential pullback in the market that could be relatively big and sustained for a fairly long period of time. If you are at 50% in cash and 50% in stocks, in the worst case scenario (if I am wrong and stocks go up another 10%), you will only make 5% on your overall portfolio. Or, if I am right and they go down by 10%, you are only down 5% and will recover much faster than those around you.



I believe, in these uncertain times, this is a smart and prudent strategy. I write this to encourage you to stay on course and do not be swayed by the Mainstream Media or others around you.

Brother Ash,
The last you posted is a short term view not a long term forecast.
While the Fed maintains control, they have the ability to artificially control the market, well the stock market.
That's while they maintain control.
The Fed has control because, well they have by defacto, been granted that control by China and the others holders of our debt.
The very minute China says no more, that is over.

Remember the fact that without artificial manipulation of the market, our Government and financial system would have failed some years ago. We have been running, essentially hooked up to life support since then. So what happens when a family member signs the forms and the nurse flops the on/off switch to the O-F-F position?
Sadly, death!
Same thing here.
As long as we play cards well with the Chinamen, we be OK.
We piss them off, say when they decide to take back Taiwan, or do a little empire building with Vietnam, then they can throw that switch! Then all those super carriers will cease to be in short time.
Americans are extraordinarily stupid
Why?
Because they are not smart enough to have figured that all out. The very fact that 9 out of 10 of us are so dumb that we don't have a clue about what I am talking about, and/or no spine that they allowed it to happen.
Let's think about that...
One man didn't do it.
Destroying an economy isn't the work of a committee, , a group, a fortune 500 company or even a small Army...It took lots of mid level manager types convincing the stupid people that all is well, not to worry.
Yep, we had ample opportunity to see it. We became so dumb and self absorbed, so entertained while being shepherded toward the slaughter that even semi-smart people manipulated us. And on a large enough scale to get a closet Homosexual, Muslim, extremely liberal, America and freedom hating man elected to our highest office. If they could do that, do you think anything is impossible for them now?
Read people, wake up from your meth and American Idol comma. Look around! Take pictures and paste them in your scrap book and label that section, "Last Days of America"
Getting back to the markets, forget about the market. Forget about cash. Soon, it aien't gonna work!
Get out of all markets, like completely out.
If you have any money, which almost none of you do, because you became weak and needed more stuff than your income would allow you to have, get it into your own right and left arm extensions.
Get yourself a solo 401K or self directed IRA. Get the numerical and theoretical 807.555 shares of Holy crap's emerging market fund turned into money which you can put the habeas grabeus on and buy something.
Buy a ton of silver in small pieces. Forget about gold. Say you need to buy a bag of corn...yep you'll be making your own flour someday soon enough... well trying buying that with a 1 oz bar of gold! How, shave off a sliver with your buck knife?
Nope, buy pre 1965 silver coins and get ready to put a fire under all of that. Then buy some guns and as much ammo as you think you can keep from being looted from you. Ammo will trade very nicely. Forget about the latest mag wheels and maybe put away a set of extra tires and maybe a few hundred gallons of chicken grease to power your diesel with. Remember, without a job, you won't be driving all that much. Besides the DHS and TSA checkpoints are going to be a PITA!
I'm saying if you're thinking about shorting stocks, longing this or collecting that, you may just be thinking on the wrong plane of reference. No worries really, because most of you don't really have a chance anyway, but a few just might. Oddly, those few are already well into their prep phase...
Anyone try to buy ammo lately? Did you know the DHS has already intimidated manufacturers to send the stuff to them, to fill their orders first! Now why would that be??
Why do they need 2700 mine and ambush resistant vehicles? Hurricane season going to be that bad this coming year?
Tell you what, take look at this piece. Then view it as truth or fantasy, black and white please. Either see it as nonsense written by a kook, or accept it as truth and do something. The one in a thousand who takes action will be better mentally suited for hard times anyway.
May God Bless us all, and protect our nation, but I fear that he will not protect a nation that has already killed more unborn babies than all the soldiers we have lost in our wars. I hope at least that he protects his people and allows us some small piece of his grace, we're gonna need it!

Edit: My perdiction is a market correction of 60%-90% (Not right away, banksters are not quite ready yet)
Followed by a run on banks
Followed by closing and nationalizing of all banks, all retirement accounts, all money that can be found everywhere.
Followed by lines of sheeple collecting their daily bread from what is left and distributed by the goverment
Followed by martial law
Followed by reorganization and forced labor
Followed by running civil war
Then the UN
Then the Chinese and the Russians
and, oh what the heck...
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« Reply #90 on: September 15, 2014, 10:24:21 PM »
Big D-

You have been blazing away on the keyboard!  You have my permission to use any of my posts on any of your threads from the other site, here on the new site.

Sites taking shape nicely- great work Overwatch!
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« Reply #91 on: September 16, 2014, 06:58:43 AM »
Big D, you also have permission to use any of my posts where I gave you a hard time at your expense....... ;D

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« Reply #92 on: September 16, 2014, 10:53:31 AM »
Big D, you also have permission to use any of my posts where I gave you a hard time at your expense....... ;D



OK, thanks
I might modify them a bit, ya know to poke fun at our gimpy Black Hawk pilot friend or Bobby or someone...

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« Reply #93 on: September 16, 2014, 09:10:17 PM »
Bobby, this made me think of you...
This half boy, half man the piece talks about is not me. It speaks about the hard working ground forces, mostly infantry. I wasn't one of them but I carried a few thousand of them in my helicopter. Had a couple die back there as well. I can't ever think about them and keep a dry eye...can't see the keyboard right now...
They are wonderful people, the best this country and some others can produce. I love them all so dearly...


1/2 boy 1/2 man

If you read this, you WILL forward it on.
You just won't be able to stop yourself.

The average age of the military man is 19 years. He is a short haired, tight-muscled kid who, under normal circumstances is considered by society as half man, half boy. Not yet dry behind the ears, not old enough to buy a beer, but old enough to die for his country. He never really cared much for work and he would rather wax his own car than wash his father's, but he has never collected unemployment either.




He's a recent High School graduate; he was probably an average student, pursued some form of sport activities, drives a ten year old jalopy, and has a steady girlfriend that either broke up with him when he left, or swears to be waiting when he returns from half a world away. He listens to rock and roll or hip-hop or rap or jazz or swing and a 155mm howitzer.

He is 10 or 15 pounds lighter now than when he was at home because he is working or fighting from before dawn to well after dusk. He has trouble spelling, thus letter writing is a pain for him, but he can field strip a rifle in 30 seconds and reassemble it in less time in the dark. He can recite to you the nomenclature of a machine gun or grenade launcher and use either one effectively if he must.

He digs foxholes and latrines and can apply first aid like a professional.

He can march until he is told to stop, or stop until he is told to march.

He obeys orders instantly and without hesitation, but he is not without spirit or individual dignity. He is self-sufficient.

He has two sets of fatigues: he washes one and wears the other. He keeps his canteens full and his feet dry.

He sometimes forgets to brush his teeth, but never to clean his rifle. He can cook his own meals, mend his own clothes, and fix his own hurts.

If you're thirsty, he'll share his water with you; if you are hungry, his food. He'll even split his ammunition with you in the midst of battle when you run low.

He has learned to use his hands like weapons and weapons like they were his hands.

He can save your life - or take it, because that is his job.




He will often do twice the work of a civilian, draw half the pay, and still find ironic humor in it all.

He has seen more suffering and death than he should have in his short lifetime.

He has wept in public and in private, for friends who have fallen in combat and is unashamed.




He feels every note of the National Anthem vibrate through his body while at rigid attention, while tempering the burning desire to 'square-away' those around him who haven't bothered to stand, remove their hat, or even stop talking. In an odd twist, day in and day out, far from home, he defends their right to be disrespectful.

Just as did his Father, Grandfather, and Great-grandfather, he is paying the price for our freedom. Beardless or not, he is not a boy. He is the American Fighting Man that has kept this country free for over 200 years.




He has asked nothing in return, except
our friendship and understanding.

Remember him, always, for he has earned our respect and admiration with his blood.

And now we even have women over there in danger, doing their part in this tradition of going to War when our nation calls us to do so.




As you go to bed tonight, remember this shot...

A short lull, a little shade and a picture of loved ones in their helmets.




Prayer wheel for our military. Please don't break it. Please send this on after a short prayer.

Prayer Wheel

"Lord, hold our troops in your loving hands. Protect them as they protect us.

Bless them and their families for the selfless acts they perform for us in our time of need. In Jesus' Amen."

When you receive this, please stop for a moment and say a prayer for our ground troops in Afghanistan, sailors on ships, and airmen in the air, and for those in Iraq, Afghanistan and all foreign countries.

There is nothing attached....

This can be very powerful.




Of all the gifts you could give a US Soldier, Sailor, Coastguardsman, Marine, or Airman, prayer is the very best one.

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« Reply #94 on: September 16, 2014, 09:11:37 PM »
From Bobby:

Infantrymen have a pride and arrogance that most Americans don’t understand and don’t like. Even soldiers who aren’t infantrymen don’t understand. The pride doesn’t exist because we have a job that’s physically impressive. It certainly doesn’t exist because it takes a higher level of intelligence to perform our duties. It’s sad and I hate to admit it, but any college student or high school grad can physically do what we do. It’s not THAT demanding and doesn’t take a physical anomaly. Nobody will ever be able to compare us to professional athletes or fitness models. And it doesn’t take a very high IQ to read off serial numbers, pack bags according to a packing list, or know that incoming bullets have the right of way.

The pride of the infantryman comes not from knowing that he’s doing a job that others can’t, but that he’s doing a job that others simply won’t. Many infantrymen haven’t seen a lot of combat. While that may sound ideal to the civilian or non-infantry soldier, it pains the grunt. We signed up to spit in the face of danger. To walk the line between life and death and live to do it again – or not. To come to terms with our own mortality and let others try to take our life instead of yours. We have raised our hands and said, “Take me, America. I am willing to kill for you. I am willing to sacrifice my limbs for you. I will come back to America scarred and disfigured for you. I will be the first to die for you.”

That’s why the infantryman carries himself with pride and arrogance. He’s aware that America has lost respect for him. To many he’s a bloodthirsty animal. To others he’s too uneducated and stupid to get a regular job or go to college. Only he knows the truth. While there are few in America who claim to have respect for him, the infantryman returns from war with less fanfare than a first down in a high school football game. Yes, people hang up their “Support Our Troops” ribbons and on occasion thank us for our service. But in their eyes the infantryman can detect pity and shame; not respect. Consider this: How excited would you be to meet the average infantryman? Now compare that with how excited you’d be to meet a famous actor or professional sports player and you will find that you, too, are guilty of placing the wrong people on a pedestal. You wouldn’t be able to tell me how many soldiers died in the war last month, but you’d damn sure be able to tell me if one of the actors from Twilight died.

Yet the infantryman doesn’t complain about that. He continues to do his job; to volunteer his life for you, all while being paid less in four years than Tom Brady makes in one game.

It’s a job most Americans don’t understand, don’t envy, and don’t respect. That is why we have pride for the infantry.
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« Reply #95 on: September 16, 2014, 09:12:52 PM »
My letter to the Tea party people who spend a lot of time complaining about things but don't actually do much:




To the Tea party clerk who sends me these emails,



Can you stop sending me these FAX Blast requests

They don't help

I know you think they do, and we are on the same side, but honestly it only wastes our money.

You see it as an act of desperation that will literally "Flood" washington with a physical representation of how we feel.

Well, Washington does not care what you think. They see us as fools, and to a large extent we are.

What we need to to is to actually write our elected representatives. I do that, and several times now over the gun bill.

Then we need to show up at pro gun rallies that are held wherever and whenever the left demonstrates for the removal of guns.

Why aren't we doing that in numbers?

Why hasn't the Tea party, if there is such a thing, called for a million patriots to swarm capital hill? I believe you believe we wouldn't show. In face most of us wouldn't. We simply have stopped caring as evidenced by the lack of a meaningful response.

Fax Blasts? Adolescent behavior that someone came up because they realized the reality. And that reality is that most people just don't care.

I believe you only get to keep what you are willing to protect, defend, and fight for. Therefore I logically conclude that we will loose this fight and eventually our guns as well. Of course our right to worship and to hold civil meetings discussing our conservative views will also be lost. And all the while some clerk in your leadership will be calling for more fax blasts.

Hmmm, I'm wondering why we didn't hand out leaflets in Iraq and in the Stan showing our outrage at the roadside bomb killings. Why didn't we send a billion, yes one billion letters of concern to Sadam Hussein and to the Taliban government after the 9-11 bombings?

Well, quite simply, because it doesn't work.

The left is better organized than we are. We have hooked our carriage to this inept Tea party who no longer has even the will to do anything more than collect some money and have some clerk send some fax or letter to another clerk, who shovels all that trash into the waste can which is handled by janitors and eventually sent to landfills or recycled.

Please don't ask me to waste my money any longer on useless efforts. And stop being a paper tiger, you and indeed, we have little resolve beyond getting our household chores done. We wasted our time, you wasted our money and got little to nothing done!

Step aside and allow some well organized conservative group take the reins. Or step up to the plate and fight. Call me if you decide to do something meaningful!
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« Reply #96 on: September 16, 2014, 09:22:03 PM »
From Shawn

The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution (As I see it.) by Jack Collins | The D.C. Clothesline

It seems to me that the simple use of a dictionary fully explains the God-given rights guaranteed under the Second Amendment of the Constitution of the United States.

2nd Amendment:

A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

A well (successful or effective) regulated (accurate and properly functioning) Militia(An army composed of ordinary citizens rather than professional soldiers) being necessary to the security (Freedom from risk or danger; safety) of a free ( Not imprisoned or enslaved; being at liberty. Not controlled by obligation or the will of another) State, (the condition or circumstances of a person or thing, a sovereign political power or community, the territory of such a community) the right (a freedom or power that is morally or legally due to a person) of the people to keep (To retain possession, have a supply of or maintain for use or service.) and bear (To carry from one place to another; transport.) Arms (weapons considered collectively. Any instrument or instrumentality used in fighting or hunting. The term (or) not being preceded by the word either means that both fighting and hunting are applicable, not either one or the other), shall not be infringed. (To transgress, violate, defeat, invalidate or encroach on someone or something;.

Therefore according to the definitions of the words as they were used should have meant the following.

A successful, effective, accurate and properly functioning army of ordinary citizens, being necessary to maintain the freedom of the people or the nation from anyone or any government trying to take away that freedom, the moral and legal freedom or power of the people to possess, have a supply of or carry or transport weapons or any instrument used in fighting or hunting, shall not be transgressed, violated, defeated, invalidated or encroached upon.

As far as I can tell by the definitions of the words used in the 2nd Amendment the Federal, State or Local Governments may not tell the people what type of weapons they may have, or how many weapons they may have, nor how or what weapons they may transport with them. Nor may they make any laws, regulations or bans concerning what weapons a person chooses to own or how and where they choose to transport them. In other words there are to be no infringements on this right whatsoever. If a person were to use those weapons in the commission of a crime then the governments may prosecute them according to law. However, maintaining our freedom is not only, not a crime, it is the duty of every American.

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« Reply #97 on: September 16, 2014, 09:26:08 PM »
From Ashley:

� A clunker that travels 12,000 miles a year at 15 mpg uses 800
> gallons of gas a year.
>
> � A new vehicle that travels 12,000 miles a year at 25 mpg uses
> 480 gallons of gas a year.
>
> � So, the average Cash for Clunkers transaction reduced gasoline
> consumption by 320 gallons per year.
>
> � The government claims 700,000 clunkers have been replaced so
> that is 224 million gallons saved per year.
>
> � That equates to a bit over 4 million barrels of oil.
>
> � 4 million barrels of oil at $80 per barrel costs about $320
> million dollars.
>
> � So, the government paid $2.8 billion of our tax dollars to
>save
> $320 million.
>
> They spent $8.75 for every $1.00 they saved.
>
> � Do you think they will do any better with healthcare?
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« Reply #98 on: September 16, 2014, 10:56:10 PM »
Early in September, I'm in the parking lot talking with a colleague 15 mins. before the end of the school day and it starts raining.  So I climb inside to wait it out; so I think.  It starts pouring about as hard as I know it can rain- after 5 mins. I concede that I'm NOT going back in and leave heading for home a bit early on a Friday.  No, I don't have a class last period, so there were no misguided youths left alone on my watch.

The whole way home, sheeple are driving like the concrete is about to dissolve beneath them, interstate becomes a rehearsal for SHTF scenarios.  I do notice that some construction barrels have floated into the lanes somewhat, or a Prius owner got smart and left his bright orange battery mobile where it shorted out.  Same size obstacles either way, so I easily make my way the 17 miles to home.  Exit before mine, I see multi-colored lights indicating police action ahead........oh goody, all these drivers don't have TV evidently, and don't know that watching "Cops" is far more entertaining than watching it live alongside the roadway!  I make out the outline of a Semi with trailer on the overpass above me laying flat on the driver's side; Now THAT had to be a change of shorts moment!

In my mind, it was going to be a perfect time to stop at Cabela's which is right off my exit, to make my standard "provision" stop.  Discovering that power is out, traffic lights out, people have no clue how to drive when lights don't tell them what to do, I bale and head home to see what's the condition of the humble abode.  Thankfully, we have power, and there's no obvious damage that I notice.  Check the sides of the house, roof from the street and side yard, sight down the fence line on each side- I'm good!  Get a text from neighbor- don't let out your dogs, fence is down.....what?  Inside now, I look out to find the backside blown flat, posts snapped off yet still intact!  Oh goody!  I figure, I can lift it up and brace it......right!  Who am I kidding!

Call insurance agent.....no answer.....classic!  I answer the phone when they call, but can I ever get service from my supposed agent!?  Luckily, I call the national claims number and get WONDERFUL service!  Get the green light, take picture, save receipts and we'll settle up online when it's complete!  Also get credit for MY labor since I'm doing it myself!  Luckily, my brother is available to assist the next morning, LOWE's pulls my order over the phone for pick-up the next day, the rental place next to my house has what I need and open at 8am!  Brother says he'll be there, but not before 9am.

Ok, why the rush?  I've got 3 dogs, Brittanys who I hunt and Field Trial- no fence means I've got to WALK THEM...they'd escape from my wife and daughter, get hit by a car etc. and with one of them a National Champion, I can't allow any of the above scenarios to develop......well except the walking on a leash......ugh!  I immediately pound stake-outs in the yard to tether the dogs for feeding and "business" until the fence is completed to the point they can't escape.  Start pulling tools etc. for the morning and finish the plan of attack for the next day.

Up early, with a beautiful forecast for the next 4 days I make coffee, finish prepping things on my end until the rental place opens.  When I get there- 5 mins. after opening, they're OUT of generators, which thankfully, I don't need.  I survey my options and settle on a "Dingo" which is a walk behind TORO product with a bucket and auger head.  They load it, hook it on a trailer and hook it to my truck and I'm put the door and home with my brother having just arrived.  Off to the Lowe's which is 15 miles away- won't shop elsewhere due to politics of places like Home Depot - embracers of the "Rainbow" and the rest of the Liberal agenda!

Pickup the order while my brother picks-up other necessities like twice the screws the guy pulled as we'd have been dead in the water just putting up forms for pouring the posts!  The Lowes boys sneer saying "looks like your making two trips".....They don't know that the Poehler boys have their PHDs......Pile it Higher and Deeper!  We layer it all into his pickup with 28 bags of concrete and enough posts, pickets and stringers for 100 linear feet of Cedar, board on board fence!

Now upon arrival back at the house, the 8 year younger version of me scrambles to work digging posts while I fire-up the Dingo and work it down to the far end of the yard with my logging chain as we proceed to pull 10 concrete posts, most busted below grade.  Even WITH power equipment, this takes serious time and effort, finishing pulling them around 12:30. We were treated to Portilo's Beef sandwiches and chocolate cake and cold beer by my wife as she shuttled my youngest daughter between church outings and a birthday party!  We were OUT of beer, so you know work stoppage was a serious concern as my brother is a Union Plumber!

Working until 7pm, we got all of the posts braced plumb, 8" post tubes for the top 18", set in concrete with the tops crowned for drainage and all of the old concrete and posts humped to the curb.  Rental equipment returned on time, and 10 bags of concrete left over and lumber unloaded inside the garage.

The next day, my wife is the lone helper on my crew.....now I LOVE MY WIFE, but we don't even hook-up the camper together!  Let's just say that "back-up cameras" are a SERIOUS marital aide!  Working together from 8am until 2pm things go wonderfully, we get almost all the runner boards cut and screwed in place, the outside boards on two sides of the 3 to repair, a gate built with all hardware in place!  We stopped for a long lunch/dinner with my oldest daughter, her boyfriend and their puppy; truly enjoying our time.  When they left that evening, my wife and I hauled ALL the scrapped panels to the curb, cleaned up the worksite and called it a night to return to the real jobs on Monday.  After work the next day, I run home to return the dirt around the posts and concrete as rain was forecast the next day or two.  Now everyone knows, when you dig a hole, somehow, the dirt multiplies.....it's a given!  Well, SOMEHOW I return all the dirt to the new holes and I'm actually a bit SHORT!?  Grab the potting soil to dress up the mess on the neighbors sides of the job and finish the outside of the fence, and half the inside, before sunset.  The next day, it POURS settling the fill and washing away the mess etc.  well fast forward to this evening and the fence is finally finished!

Reflecting back upon the entire experience, I cannot believe the number of BLESSINGS throughout this entire process!  This is clearly, from The Lord......I'm amazed out how his handprints appeared at every turn of the process!

Timing- happens on a Friday, when I've got NOTHING planned for Sat./Sunday, and my brother is available to assit.  Normally, traveling on weekends to Field Trial the dogs- so this was the only open weekend for two months!  Micro burst could have easily damaged more of the house, instead, only a superficial structure, though essential to our daily lives with our dogs.

Instead of church (normally there when home), I spend a day working with my wife ENJOYING the process and each others company.  Same enjoyable time spent with both my daughters, and the eldest's boyfriend and dog, while resting the aches of a 51 yr. old body not usually doing hard labor!

Supplies and equipment are available and waiting when I needed them , insurance gives the go ahead without "visit" so there's no delay!  Brother is available and WILLING to assist at this drop of the hat! 

I actually complete the process, without any major problems and even when something comes up, it's calmly resolved without anything "exciting" happening.

I was further blessed by being able to help a new neighbor by trimming their damaged tree, halfway up, like a Monkey with a chainsaw, finishing unharmed!  I actually was thinking, if this slips, my guts are "at the chain" and it'll really make a mess!  The guy wanted to pay me.....no, pay it forward.

Heavenly Father, thank you for your blessings and providence throughout this somewhat comical escapade!  Your presence is awesome and I thank you for an enjoyable calamity of the smallest variety!
« Last Edit: September 16, 2014, 11:05:32 PM by cudakidd53 »
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« Reply #99 on: September 18, 2014, 08:00:55 PM »
The 6.2 was sold out from under me, this morning. I started to look at a 93 Cummins, but the rust is WAY to advanced. The search continues.
So, Bobby...being the calculating trained warrior NCO that you are.  Take the appropriate action, Execute!
your standard grunt level CQB is just putting rounds and rounds on scary stuff till it stops scaring you!

 

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