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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #50 on: September 15, 2015, 09:51:30 PM »

x 2!
It looks like we're getting closer!
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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« Reply #51 on: September 15, 2015, 10:06:52 PM »
slowly but surely!
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« Reply #52 on: September 15, 2015, 11:15:38 PM »
Bleeding it properly requires it to spin over at normal cranking speed. Normally one would bleed air before the injection pump..since you have a electric pump...this part is simple (open line into a bucket with the pump on works) then reconnect the line and if still using the oem filter just crack the bleed screw there. Let it sit 15 min crack it again with the pumps on. Then I usually bleed the fuel line that feeds the pump right at the pump... again pumps on, crack the line, wait for it to spray all fuel, and yr golden.

I then will crack injectors #1,3,6 one turn or so of the nut, and this is where you need to crank the engine. Spin it tell no air comes out, tighten the injectors *17mm and try to start.

repeat if required...but usually doing three will get it lit up.

Wouldn't hurt to make sure you have oil pressure at some point before actually trying to start it. Cummisn can be slow to prime the oil pumps, so don't freak if ya do not have immediate pressure when cranking. But when it starts glue yr eye to the gauge tell it registers.

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« Reply #53 on: September 16, 2015, 09:49:34 AM »
Thanks Koo-T
will get that done today
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« Reply #54 on: September 16, 2015, 11:06:46 PM »
That is a lot of bleeding. She's gonna make you work to get her going

I remember learning to never run a diesel out of fuel. Just so much work to get it going again, much less a new motor (done a couple V8, V12 Detroits, big kittys and a cummins or 2)

We used low pressure compressed air from the tank on up and made a big mess!
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« Reply #55 on: September 17, 2015, 10:03:23 AM »
Lot of work indeed

I didn't realize how messy I had gotten the truck and the shop. Yesterday, I spent 11 hours in there cleaning up everything. Didn't get to all the shelves, but washed the truck. put things up. Filled up two large trash cans with stuff, moved out hundreds of pounds of scrap steel, and scrubbed the floors.

Now I am ready to get in and all over this truck without swimming in oils and fuel puddles
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« Reply #56 on: September 17, 2015, 10:27:39 AM »
Looking spiffy.... I need to take a day and do the same to my barn...er shop/whatever it is. Especially after the law chair fire yesterday while sharpening mower blades.

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« Reply #57 on: September 17, 2015, 11:37:59 AM »
Looking spiffy.... I need to take a day and do the same to my barn...er shop/whatever it is. Especially after the law chair fire yesterday while sharpening mower blades.


Normally, I just burn up the clothes I'm wearing when grinding on stuff

Lost the chair, anything else?
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« Reply #58 on: September 17, 2015, 01:09:25 PM »
Looking spiffy.... I need to take a day and do the same to my barn...er shop/whatever it is. Especially after the law chair fire yesterday while sharpening mower blades.

that sounds like a story there...........?
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« Reply #59 on: September 17, 2015, 01:43:40 PM »
Had a few of those little fires, kinda reminds you.

My garage is worse than that. Spent several hours yesterday upstairs where the boys had been playing. They got into everything!
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« Reply #60 on: September 17, 2015, 05:11:24 PM »
Nah no real story... I finished the last blade, went to leave the shop and noticed one lawn chair engulfed in flames. I punted it out the open door and went and mowed. My wife put "1 lawn chair" on the shopping list because she thinks she's funny LoL

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« Reply #61 on: September 17, 2015, 06:59:19 PM »
Sorry Kooter, I just laughed out loud so I think she's funny too.
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« Reply #62 on: September 17, 2015, 07:00:40 PM »
"lawn chair" I get it now, I thought you said law chair....sorry
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« Reply #63 on: September 17, 2015, 08:35:05 PM »
Don, the garage looks inspection ready!  Just makes you feel better when things are all squared away.

You are ready to get down to business.

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« Reply #64 on: September 17, 2015, 11:30:35 PM »
Don, the garage looks inspection ready!  Just makes you feel better when things are all squared away.

You are ready to get down to business.

Where is my popcorn emoticon.....
Yep, ready
Smoked my bad knee yesterday and took it easy today.
Tomorrow I'll finish painting the track loader, and Saturday is a farm werkin day
Maybe Sunday afternoon to get the ground wire sorted and start to bleed the thing.
I just hope it starts and I don't have some awful problem.
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« Reply #65 on: September 17, 2015, 11:41:52 PM »
have you contacted the engine builder to come and assist with the starting?
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« Reply #66 on: September 20, 2015, 11:26:34 PM »
Put some cool decals I had laying around on the square one. Wife says the truck now looks like a hillbilly owns it!
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« Reply #67 on: September 21, 2015, 07:11:31 AM »
Put some cool decals I had laying around on the square one. Wife says the truck now looks like a hillbilly owns it!

Mission accomplished........... ;)
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« Reply #68 on: September 21, 2015, 10:01:48 PM »
OK JR, here you are:
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« Reply #69 on: September 21, 2015, 10:03:18 PM »
After cleaning this single ground, the truck cranked much better
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« Reply #70 on: September 21, 2015, 10:04:32 PM »
With the fuel pumps on, I cracked this fitting and bled the air out, up to this point
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« Reply #71 on: September 21, 2015, 10:08:15 PM »
Next, I loosened all 6 injector lines and cranked the motor for maybe 15-20 seconds. I could see some fuel spraying and splashing about, so I retightened the lines.

Then with the camera rolling I cranked it and it started immediately

Oil pressure came right up and after a bit of rough idling it settled out to a smooth rhythm.

However, there is something amiss. It will not rev up at all and sputters and belches white smoke and I can actually open the throttle and kill the motor!

Well, I'll figure this out like everything else, but at least it started!
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« Reply #72 on: September 21, 2015, 10:21:18 PM »
Congratulations !!


Just sounds like air in the system.

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« Reply #73 on: September 21, 2015, 11:08:55 PM »
Wow, smoke and noise (can't see video till tomorrow at work) it's awesome to see all the hard work coming together!
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« Reply #74 on: September 21, 2015, 11:33:35 PM »
OK JR, here you are:
OMG[/size]

Congrads!!!! and we have it on video

Even a slight glimpse of the man himself through the window and smoke  8)
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« Reply #75 on: September 21, 2015, 11:46:34 PM »
Yikes!  Lions have lain down with lambs....

Hell hath frozen over

Pigs are flying


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« Reply #76 on: September 22, 2015, 03:15:44 AM »
I teared up... just a little... but I did tear up... don't tell anyone
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« Reply #77 on: September 22, 2015, 08:20:07 AM »
Congrats Don!! Quite the milestone.  :)
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« Reply #78 on: September 22, 2015, 08:43:28 AM »
Awesome news. I'd bleed the injectors again Don....you could be driving it soon.

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« Reply #79 on: September 22, 2015, 08:45:16 AM »
Great work.  Wonder what we all are going to bug you about now.
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« Reply #80 on: September 22, 2015, 09:22:34 AM »
Kinda reminds me of the 80s show, The A Team.

I love it when a plan comes together



Don as Hannibal, Ken as "Face", Tate as Murdock, and I'm not sure about BA, that would probably fall to HigherCaliber(Blaine) or Nate
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« Reply #81 on: September 22, 2015, 09:39:58 AM »
Congrats Don!  Amazing work as always.
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« Reply #82 on: September 22, 2015, 10:35:59 AM »
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« Reply #83 on: September 22, 2015, 11:50:18 AM »
It's twuu, it's twuu!
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« Reply #84 on: September 22, 2015, 11:54:28 AM »
nice job! I am guessing the power issue is an easy fix but whatdoIknow?  :o

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« Reply #85 on: September 22, 2015, 12:25:25 PM »
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« Reply #86 on: September 22, 2015, 01:01:13 PM »
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« Reply #87 on: September 22, 2015, 01:29:17 PM »
...However, there is something amiss. It will not rev up at all and sputters and belches white smoke and I can actually open the throttle and kill the motor!

It just occured to me...I bet you forgot to tell Dwayne to use a 2x4 instead of his hand. Remove him from the intake and she'll rev up !!

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« Reply #88 on: September 22, 2015, 02:04:45 PM »
I'll take Murdock! Nice work on the Mel Brooks references there boys. I didn't get any video though, just stills?
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« Reply #89 on: September 22, 2015, 03:41:01 PM »
Tate, the video link/download is up in reply #68.
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« Reply #90 on: September 22, 2015, 05:38:00 PM »
Kinda reminds me of the 80s show, The A Team.

I love it when a plan comes together



Don as Hannibal, Ken as "Face", Tate as Murdock, and I'm not sure about BA, that would probably fall to HigherCaliber(Blaine) or Nate

#facepalm
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« Reply #91 on: September 22, 2015, 06:06:25 PM »
OK JR, here you are:
OMG[/size]

Congrads!!!! and we have it on video

Even a slight glimpse of the man himself through the window and smoke  8)
I was asphyxiated byy all the smoke and died quietly a bit later!

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« Reply #92 on: September 22, 2015, 06:12:18 PM »
Holy Smokes, what a response!
It's only a smoky old diesel!

Yea, Koo-T, I'll re-bleed the injectors tomorrow. Worked all day on "Sarge", but have that thing mostly done now. Have to sort out that motor and trans in square D now...

Well, I was getting concerned that I might have created some anxiety issues across the north American continent, so I'm glad you boys are feeling relieved!

HC, that was huge...you showin' emotion! What did your wife think? ;-)
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« Reply #93 on: September 22, 2015, 06:18:13 PM »
there was no pic don, so I think HC is in the clear...............;D
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« Reply #94 on: September 22, 2015, 06:29:12 PM »
there was no pic don, so I think HC is in the clear...............;D
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« Reply #95 on: September 22, 2015, 08:24:50 PM »
Kinda reminds me of the 80s show, The A Team.

I love it when a plan comes together



Don as Hannibal, Ken as "Face", Tate as Murdock, and I'm not sure about BA, that would probably fall to HigherCaliber(Blaine) or Nate

#facepalm

Tell me Don doesnt resemble Hannibal??  I know you're old enough to remember that show.  Hell it was probably based on some of Don's antics.
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« Reply #96 on: September 22, 2015, 09:37:25 PM »
Oh yeah i was an a team fan, and yeah he does resemble Hannibal.
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« Reply #97 on: September 22, 2015, 10:25:25 PM »
"I pity da fool, who don't know them some A-Team references".......and Flatlander and I remember when Mr. T bought a Mansion near our growing up spots, huge wooded lot which he went all lumber jack on and CLEAR CUT it because he had allergies!  Oh how the swells howled in his neighborhood!
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« Reply #98 on: September 22, 2015, 10:26:24 PM »
Oh yeah i was an a team fan, and yeah he does resemble Hannibal.
I think I'm more of a Robert Redford/Ronald Regan look alike
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« Reply #99 on: September 22, 2015, 10:32:23 PM »
Oh yeah i was an a team fan, and yeah he does resemble Hannibal.
I think I'm more of a Robert Redford/Ronald Regan look alike
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