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Re: Car Hauler Trailer Build
« Reply #200 on: October 01, 2017, 08:04:06 AM »
Are you going to weld flat bar on outside of all the stake pockets?

I'm not sure. I might. If I do it will be just over the 3 pockets in front of the the fenders. I do have some 1.5" x 1/4" I could use.

If you have the steel I would do it. It looks very clean & as JR stated it gives you a nice place to wrap tie downs on etc.

Yeah, ti's true, it would be handy. Perhaps I'll do that today. You can actually see one of the pieces of flat bar I have in the picture of the stake pockets! Since it's not the same width as the stake pockets, I wonder if it would be better to keep it flush with the top of the stake pockets, or in the middle, or flush with the bottom?

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Re: Car Hauler Trailer Build
« Reply #201 on: October 01, 2017, 08:25:29 AM »
Make it easier on yourself & weld it in the middle. Just my 2 cents but trailer is looking very good, nice work there!

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« Reply #202 on: October 01, 2017, 11:45:31 AM »
Got the cross member tacked in place where I will be mounting my tongue jack



Also got both fender tacked in place. This is just the first side that I did. I had to space the fender out 1.5" from the frame rail to properly cover the tires. I'll put two vertical pieces of angle iron on the outside of the frame rail to support it.


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Re: Car Hauler Trailer Build
« Reply #203 on: October 01, 2017, 01:38:32 PM »
No removeable fenders?
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« Reply #204 on: October 01, 2017, 02:13:37 PM »
No removeable fenders?

No not on this one. To be honest I've had several trailers of various sizes and never once wished for removable fenders.
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Re: Car Hauler Trailer Build
« Reply #205 on: October 01, 2017, 02:18:30 PM »
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« Reply #206 on: October 01, 2017, 03:00:21 PM »
Oh. They're removable all right. First blown tire at speed and they'll be removed :wink


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« Reply #207 on: October 01, 2017, 03:33:21 PM »
Both fenders tacked on. Looks ok to me!



And both tool shelfs....err fender, fully welded now.



Now just to final weld the jack mount up front, put a 12" rail across the front of the deck, and then it will be paint time!!
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Re: Car Hauler Trailer Build
« Reply #208 on: October 04, 2017, 10:32:57 AM »
Cut uprights for the bump rail last night. Used some scrap 1.5" square tube. Has to cap the bottoms before welding onto the trailer to keep them water tight.



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« Reply #209 on: October 08, 2017, 12:30:06 PM »
Getting closer to painting time!

Got my front bump rail fab'ed and welded on



Got my jack and it's support fully welded on



And marked out some pieces of 1/4" plate that I will use for supports for the hitch mount that sticks up above the tongue


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« Reply #210 on: October 09, 2017, 12:18:32 PM »
Got the hitch mount reinforced. I'm sure it will be stout enough...


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« Reply #211 on: October 16, 2017, 02:54:11 PM »
Started wiping down the trailer with acetone to get the grease and dirt off. Painting pics to follow soon!

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« Reply #212 on: October 17, 2017, 08:26:58 AM »
Humble suggestion if I may. I?d triangulate at least the sides of the front wall you built with some plate.  Same for the tongue jack as that single cross member will twist.


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« Reply #213 on: October 17, 2017, 10:00:20 AM »
I agree with tx on front wall, not so much on tongue jack though.

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« Reply #214 on: October 17, 2017, 11:32:33 PM »
Shawn why use wheel chocks when you can just surf the runaway trailer into a nearby tree....or so I've heard.
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« Reply #215 on: October 18, 2017, 12:53:28 AM »
Shawn why use wheel chocks when you can just surf the runaway trailer into a nearby tree....or so I've heard.

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« Reply #216 on: October 18, 2017, 01:02:11 AM »
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Shawn why use wheel chocks when you can just surf the runaway trailer into a nearby tree....or so I've heard.
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Re: Car Hauler Trailer Build
« Reply #217 on: October 18, 2017, 08:38:24 AM »
If you plated the bottom of your tongue you could use it as loose storage for chain and maybe add some structural support for that jack as Tex/Shawn suggest


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Re: Car Hauler Trailer Build
« Reply #218 on: October 18, 2017, 08:56:39 AM »
Humble suggestion if I may. I?d triangulate at least the sides of the front wall you built with some plate.  Same for the tongue jack as that single cross member will twist.


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By front wall, you mean the bump rail yes? That's probably not a bad idea. Each vertical piece is welded the full 5" height of the channel, and that front channel it welded to the tongue as well. I suppose a little extra support would be nice if some yahoo ever thought about putting a winch on there to drag something onto the trailer or something.

For the jack cross member, I had thought about putting in a piece 90 deg to the crossmember, back to the front of the trailer frame for some added torsional rigidity.

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Re: Car Hauler Trailer Build
« Reply #219 on: October 18, 2017, 09:48:28 AM »
I'm just looking at the picture of your bump rail.  Do you have anything to support your decking on the very front frame piece that the rail is welded to?

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« Reply #220 on: October 18, 2017, 11:01:43 AM »
I'm just looking at the picture of your bump rail.  Do you have anything to support your decking on the very front frame piece that the rail is welded to?

No, I left that piece out. By the time a cars bumper was at the bump rail, the front tires would be at or behind that first cross member anyway. I supposed I could put something there just in case though.

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« Reply #221 on: October 18, 2017, 12:27:32 PM »
Easier to add it now then need it later.  A piece of angle cut to fit would do the trick.

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« Reply #222 on: October 20, 2017, 08:28:36 AM »
Easier to add it now then need it later.  A piece of angle cut to fit would do the trick.

I got a piece of angle welded in there. Thanks for making me do it, only took about 15 mins to cut/weld etc. Hoping to finished acetone wash down today and get it painted. Will soon be getting a little too cold to paint it!

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« Reply #223 on: October 20, 2017, 03:54:00 PM »
cold weather painting tip (recall I worked in unheated steel storage warehouses for years) use a kitchen hot plate to warm up the paint before spraying.......
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« Reply #224 on: October 21, 2017, 12:56:18 AM »
I use hot water. The hot plate would negate changing the water. Surface will need to be warm also.
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« Reply #225 on: October 21, 2017, 08:31:56 AM »
Negative, steel can be cold. Cold steel storage shops feel generally 15-20 degrees colder than outside temp during the winter days. When outside temps rise the steel still stays cold for a few days, really sucks when spring thaw comes. The steel sucks in the cold & holds it.

Hot water would probably work as well but more of a pain to deal with I think & not necessary.
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« Reply #226 on: October 21, 2017, 09:09:09 PM »
Referring to heating the paint in warm water.

Long as the shop is a little warm and the steel is clean the should hold paint OK.
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« Reply #227 on: October 21, 2017, 09:29:32 PM »
Referring to heating the paint in warm water.

Understood, just thinking pot of water & heating it was one more step. In the climate we were in some knucklehead would have left water in pot then turned burner off for weekend & we would have had a frozen pot come Monday morning.
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« Reply #228 on: October 24, 2017, 07:14:07 PM »
Well it was 21 Celsius today, so I thought I better get a coat of paint on! I first did the bottom of the whole trailer laying on my back on a creeper. Then once that was done, did the rest standing up. The bottom is likely on a little thicker than it needs to be, but just more concerned with coverage than looks under there.

Supposed to be another warm day tomorrow, so hoping to put a second coat on, then call it a day.


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« Reply #229 on: October 24, 2017, 08:03:59 PM »
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« Reply #230 on: October 24, 2017, 08:25:09 PM »
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« Reply #232 on: October 25, 2017, 12:10:25 AM »
Those genders look really good


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« Reply #233 on: October 25, 2017, 08:28:34 AM »
Those genders look really good


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« Reply #234 on: October 25, 2017, 08:50:30 AM »
Those genders look really good


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« Reply #235 on: October 25, 2017, 09:32:49 AM »
I was actually quite happy with how it turned out, first time I ever hvlp'd before, but it sure beats the heck out of using spray cans!!! I'm thinking the bottom side went on rather thick, and won't need much of a second coat, but I'll get a light second coat on most of it I think. Little humid here today, so hopefully still dries quickly enough.

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« Reply #236 on: October 27, 2017, 07:25:47 AM »
I'm thinking for my safety chains I might just drill a 1/2" hole on either side of the tongue and use some gr. 8 hardware and chain and bolt them on. Where would be the best spot to drill the hole, in the web of the channel steel, or on the bottom flange?

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« Reply #237 on: October 27, 2017, 07:49:50 AM »
Do you need the bottom set of holes on the channel.  You could just run a bolt or clevis through that if you don't think it will be needed.

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« Reply #238 on: October 27, 2017, 08:26:14 AM »
Do you need the bottom set of holes on the channel.  You could just run a bolt or clevis through that if you don't think it will be needed.

That's a good idea. The rules here say the chains can't be connected to the coupler, but that wouldn't be the coupler I dont think (it would be what the coupler mounts on), so might just be the easier solution! I really doubt I'd need the bottom holes, the top half would be most likely to be used, plus the drawbar on the truck is adjustable as well.
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« Reply #239 on: October 27, 2017, 09:44:26 AM »
If you can't use them, which I don't see why not, then I'd drill right at the bottom close enough that your chain link sits flat on the edge of the channel.
My thought is you lose less structural strength there than if you used the bottom edge of the channel.
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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« Reply #240 on: October 27, 2017, 10:51:53 AM »
If you can't use them, which I don't see why not, then I'd drill right at the bottom close enough that your chain link sits flat on the edge of the channel.
My thought is you lose less structural strength there than if you used the bottom edge of the channel.
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« Reply #241 on: October 29, 2017, 10:35:59 AM »
Well, got er painted, got the lights mounted, brakes on all 4 wheels, and couple on there. Mostly just need to wire and put on decking!




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« Reply #242 on: October 29, 2017, 11:49:00 AM »
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« Reply #243 on: October 29, 2017, 12:03:39 PM »
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« Reply #244 on: Today at 02:27:16 PM »
Any further updates?
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« Reply #245 on: Today at 06:24:52 PM »
I got the wiring all connected. Just need to tie stuff up out of the way. I have a box of trailer flooring screws on the way. They are 5/16" gr.8 self tapping screws, purpose made for attaching wood boards to steel or aluminium trailer frame. So once those arrive next week I will get the decking on. At that point it should be an actual trailer! Still have to make some ramps for it, but that won't be too big of a deal I dont think.

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« Reply #246 on: Today at 07:07:39 PM »
When I repaired trailers we would still drill the holes first. Sure the hardware is better now but in the long run we saved lots of time.
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« Reply #247 on: Today at 07:34:32 PM »
If he bought specific screws for this process he should be gtg, I've used ones from Fastenal in the past and they are pretty slick.....
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« Reply #248 on: Today at 09:07:28 PM »
When I repaired trailers we would still drill the holes first. Sure the hardware is better now but in the long run we saved lots of time.

Yup, still gotta drill holes for these ones as well, they aren't self-drillers, just self-tappers. They are just like the ones you can get at Fastenal. Use a Torx T40 bit to drive them in.