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Our G741 Project
« on: January 07, 2017, 10:00:14 AM »
First a little history...

G741 is the US Army nomenclature number representing the M Series trucks built by Dodge 1951-1968 There were a few variants of these built over the years. Most people recognize the name M37 as they were commonly called. The one we will be using for this build is actually a M42. Basically the Korean war's version of a command car.

Because the Army wanted new trucks, around 1948 they basically told Chrysler to design a new one using much of the old WW2 vintage parts but to improve a few things. This is a unique series of trucks in that no bids were offered to GM or Ford or anyone else.

This truck left Michigan Feb of 1951 and apparently went straight to the 14th infantry.

Because of a odd string of events I know the history of this truck very well, and it never saw any duty as a command vehicle. It was originally equipped with the high amp charging system, and has the designation of M42 on it's build plate reflecting this, but it's Korean war tour was with the 3rd ,14th infantry.  The truck served as a EOD vehicle and delivered mail at or around such places as Heartbreak Ridge, Punch-bowl and Pork Chop Hill. In fact if the stories I have been told are correct,  the .45 casings we found years ago under it's floor boards were the result of a EOD mission on a "neutral" road that at one point turned ugly.

An aside story: Apparently EOD had to always be armed, most carried .45 hand guns because rifles were clumsy. This truck while on EOD or mail duty apparently was usually sporting a Tommy gun stolen from a Chinese soldier that didn't need it any more as it's rifle. The above incident resulted in about 75 rounds of Tommy Gun action and emptying the side arm of the driver while making their escape.

As the story goes it's EOD assignment may explain why it was in Korea to begin with. EOD were usually small squads of men and they would live rather large as Korean soldiers standard went. They drew rations for 25 men and were a squad of 8. Most of the Korean war was fought with WW2 era trucks. EOD and what they did required a weapons carrier instead of Jeeps...so they likely got the newest stuff. That and as the men that were there explained... the 14th was sporting mostly all new equipment when they arrived in Korea. A result of the reorganization before deployment. The gentleman who drove this truck was EOD. He once told me he had zero EOD training but they asked for volunteers and he stuck his hand up...which may explain when he wasn't doing EOD stuff, he was humping mail LoL

Stories abound... tales of having to start fires under the oil pan to get it started. Backed up by the charred paint and rubber on the underside of the engine. Stories of how they welded a few upright "posts" off the front bumper to catch "neck wires" which were wires the enemy would stretch across the roads/trails to decapitate the drivers and passengers of American trucks with soft tops. The truck does show the history of this. The windshield and cowl area has some damage that looks just like it hit a few cables or wires in it's day.

The truck has a interesting past as I am sure many do. I could share more but it's long, complicated and in some cases even pretty unclear how this fella kept track of this truck all those years or even why. When he was still alive I often tried to pick his brain and he told many a story, but often would clam up and say he signed an agreement to not talk about it, and he was afraid of ending up in military prison if he told some things. Many of these old fellas seem to worry about that...

Next post.... a side story but possibly relevant...than on to the build.

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« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2017, 11:14:12 AM »
My Uncle, a US Army corp of engineers type, once told me a interesting tale..it pertains to Military equipment and the late 50's and early 60's

Nebraska was a hot bed of activity during the cold war. The Naval Munitions plant in Hastings Neb was going full bore but some what covertly. They made all sorts of fun toys there. Some that come to mind were the torpedoes and huge shells for the Iowa class battleships. Anyway....

My uncle was involved with a few "secret" projects in his career. One was his work on Cheyenne Mountain in Colorado. Although history says construction didn't begin until much latter, he was involved in that project already in the late 50's. He also played a role in the development of many Atlas F silos being built in Nebraska again around the same time period.

He has some great stories but one that has to do with old Military vehicles is fascinating.

Between gigs for the Army welding and excavating assorted "secret" projects he and his fellow men were given a interesting task.
The Naval plant in Hastings was going full bore production wise...and they used the collection and disposal of Military equipment to cover the plants activity. Train loads of old Military equipment from all over the USA were shipped into Hastings. He said the place looked like the largest parking lot you have ever seen.

Everything from light trucks, to tanks and tractors, and in some cases railroad cars and engines were being destroyed. If it fit on a train car in any capacity..they likely destroyed them. Even guns...as in large guns.

So they had a scrap yard going...metal was being crushed, ground and sent on train cars. Then "new" metal would return by train to make munitions...He thinks and has some merit in his thinking, much of this metal was also being used at the same time to build the massive Atlas Missile sights.

Now... he was telling me if you were a government contractor you could show up in Hastings with your semi or train car or whatever and requisition anything you wanted. So he often helped load Cats, Graders, M37's, Jeeps, larger trucks you name it....he explained that retired Military would show up at times, maybe a dozen men at a time... and they would show paperwork and drive off with trucks or whatever they wanted. Much of this equipment went to Colorado for the Norad project, or to Atlas sights being built in Nebraska at the time. He said he's rather sure in some cases...people acquired stuff they shouldn't have. An example....

A postal carrier from the sand hills who did in fact deliver mail...was also a large rancher and my uncle and family in general were close friends with this fella. He showed up in Hastings with a dozen men (likely ranch hands) a few times and drove or hauled off WW2 Half tracks and power wagons, command cars, you name it to deliver mail with. Now.... I know this is factual because I grew up in the sand hills and spent a lot of time on that ranch...also as an adult many decades latter I attended the auction when he passed away and I bought a LOT of those old Power Wagons and half-tracks. Most were parts/scrap...but some were still functional. That was a heck of an auction....there were no kidding 100's of scrapped ww2 Dodges

Anyway back to Hastings... it soon became a problem, they had more equipment coming in than they could process. People stopped showing up as often with paperwork for stuff and it was piling up.

So the orders were... dig a large hole (he guessed 400 or more acres in size) and bury it all. The orders were... fill the fuel tanks to capacity, drive it into the hole and bury them. And that's what they did...multiple holes, multiple layers, multiple times.

Now... although my Uncle claims no knowledge of this and in fact was diverted to dirt work on silo bases around this time, a interesting rumor has always floated around that things got out of hand. What was happening is the men responsible for guarding these holes while they were being worked... would look the other way and a LOT of equipment drove off in the night... a LOT>

This may explain the amazing amount of WW2 equipment still found in barns on farms across three states LoL
It may explain a odd story in a newspaper in the late 50's of a "bulldozer convoy" reported to the police heading West. The police didn't even investigate it LoL

My Mom once told me at her high school it was not uncommon to see half tracks in the parking lot in 1958. Given the very lax rules regarding farm equipment and registrations in these parts in those days...it doesn't surprise me at all.

This spring when it warms up I will snap some covert pictures of a pvt junk yard of sorts I know of. It's just a woods full of about two dozen wheeled cranes, and assorted other WW2 vintage equipment...looks like most of it may have been new when parked. The owner has no idea how they got there...he bought the land with them there...but he sure is protective of them. Most all of it is complete junk now...but it's sure fascinating how they got there.

anyhow...the gentlemen so attached to this project truck...he spent quite a lot of time in Hastings as a pvt contractor to the Navy. He was a Train Engineer... anyone want to bet how he knew exactly where "his" truck was? Or the other pair I have with sequential serial numbers? ....Must have been some interesting times back in the day LoL

Attending air shows, hanging out with old men who love and restore old war birds, I have heard some tales...seen some things. I played in a B17 Fuselage when I was a kid that was abandoned on a old air base. (a story in it's self btw)

So those memories, those stories, those men, all that is my personal motivation to keep this old M37 running around the roads...so with that...lets begin.







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Re: Our G741 Project
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2017, 11:40:58 AM »
So what is a M37?  It's a 3/4ton 6000lb 112" wb 1930's technology military truck. Built to last a decade or less, have just enough power to move it's own weight, and with no heater, useless vacuum wipers, and 5.87 gears, a canvas top...well not a daily driver LoL

So... we are going to make it a daily driver.

In my new largely retired state of life, before I go find a real job like door greeter or something, I need a pickup. Since my faithful old Cummins Dodge Patch is needing some work...I am just going to replace it with this M37 and sell Patch to someone who wants a solid old truck to restore. Kill a few birds if ya will, with the same stone...

Requirements:
Seat two...
Run 80mph when needed
Reliable
Simple like a old tractor simple..
practical (denial will help here)
Go anywhere I may want to drive it
I despise wiring, so very few wires LoL

I am in no real hurry, I have no real actual plan..(I have ideas, no plan) I didn't even set a budget..I am going to try something new in my life...I am going to wing it and see what happens.

My wife has some requirements I shall add here as well, so she can't say I didn't listen while she laid them out.

Safety: She thinks it needs seat belts and soft seats and a roll cage. Seems sensible.
Comfort: She wants soft cushy seats, she specifically said no plywood with canvas on it LoL
She wants a heater, wipers that work with a switch is how she explained it.
A defroster, because she's done scraping the inside of windows while I yell at her to get her hair out of the steering wheel she claims.
She insists I have fun building it and I have to include the grand-kids because they all want to get in the way Ie: Help.

She also mentioned it should be able to plow snow, run a rototiller and have a radio...because she likes to be lippy.

So...I made no plans, but already others have...hmmmmm

question...is it a barn find if you find it in your own barn? I could call this a "barn find build" just a thought....ok for those not yet bored to tears here is what we have so far.





 





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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2017, 11:48:26 AM »
We have one M37 in pieces but complete.. frames solid and straight, body is basically rust free with a few dents for character..hmmm well M37's are rather simple...not much else to comment on LoL

We have a variety of engine choices in "stock" 440's, 360's 6BT's, those are the Mopar offerings laying around in short. I'd like to keep it Dodge...so one of them.

Transmission choices are 727,518, Getrag, NV 4500 and probably others...

So.. as soon as the weather warms enough to make moving old junk around sensible.... we will begin by dragging it into a different shed and seeing what we can cobble together for a drivetrain.  Stay tuned... word has it upper 40's this week.

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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2017, 02:47:27 PM »
If you're going to plow snow the auto is a nice feature, plus your old and have a gimp knew I thought I heard.... :popcorn:
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« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2017, 04:45:23 PM »
Well she thinks it will plow snow...As many Dodge 4x4's as we have laying around...I can see no reason why one of them can't handle that.

But I am researching A518 to Big Block ideas. Can't argue with simplifying the swap by not dealing with clutch pedals, hydraulics and all that. I have a 1992 518/205 combo with 25K on it...pretty rare combo. I think a 440/518/205 might be a nice marriage. Toss some 5.13 gears and 40ish rubber on it and it wouldn't be too bad at speed, and could still crawl if I wanted it to. That's one line of thinking anyway. Since it's not a rock buggy I see no reason to spend extra $$ to get deeper crawl ratios. The other concept...I could use 4.56 gears and a 241 case...

I could make my life so much easier by using a small block...but I just don't find that as much fun LoL



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« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2017, 07:33:18 PM »
with the god awedul amount of abused miles on patch.. it's amazing that you have so many trans/tcase setups with zero miles.. hahah

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« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2017, 07:38:01 PM »
This is a darned good start to what is going to be a cool journey!
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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2017, 10:08:43 PM »
241 case with a big block and your right foot? :huh:
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« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2017, 08:00:41 AM »
I used to buy a lot of Dodges at GSA auctions. I have the remains of a W350 stake truck that had 6000 miles on it that I drove home from Idaho. Paid $450 for it LoL On it's rear flat bed were 6 new in the crate Dana 60 CUCV front axles. Same auction....

As for the 241... I was thinking 241HD from a oil burner. Those are rather durable. Besides...I have mellowed in my old age LoL

I was even considering a 2bbl for the 440.... well 3 of them  :laugh:

But... it looks like a Ultra Bell will allow me to bolt the 518 to the 440. So that seems easy enough. I really just like the idea of a 440/518/205. Where I toss around a little is the 518. I am not sure a OD behind a 440 would show any real fuel economy increases...so it's sole value is faster cruise speeds. Still weighing this.....I only have between 112 and 116" WB to work with.

I have burned up the internets a little the last few days, and I think I have found a satisfactorily plan to eliminate the power brakes. so that part of the build has some direction now.

Weight: The number one way to make something faster, more durable, and perform the best, is to not have any extra weight. A stock M37 with no OEM winch and all it's canvas and bows and troop seats, weighs in at a hefty for it's size 5687 lbs.

I am going to try and build this thing and stay around 5500lbs. That should keep it fairly nimble. Time to buy some dimple dies and start work on that concept LoL The roll cage will be the only real significant weight I add to this thing...so I have a few lbs to shed somewhere...














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« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2017, 10:11:09 AM »
I used to buy a lot of Dodges at GSA auctions. I have the remains of a W350 stake truck that had 6000 miles on it that I drove home from Idaho. Paid $450 for it LoL On it's rear flat bed were 6 new in the crate Dana 60 CUCV front axles. Same auction....


...so I have a few lbs to shed somewhere...

to say i'm somewhat envious of your 350/dana 60 combo at auction..

could you maybe shed though pounds around your midriff..? hahaha

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« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2017, 10:23:29 AM »
Oh I could probably drop 10 lbs or so. But then my wife will get all nervous she's not feeding me enough and over cook.

If I have calculated correctly...and the Army's numbers are correct...I can drop 300lbs just in the engine/trans/case department. That's a significant chunk. No way the roll cage will weigh 300lbs.

Un-sprung weight isn't a big deal but the modern axles are lighter, the OEM military split rims and rubber weigh 140lbs a pop...so I am upbeat this thing may actually weigh less when I am done.



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« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2017, 01:24:49 PM »
Oh I could probably drop 10 lbs or so. But then my wife will get all nervous she's not feeding me enough and over cook.

If I have calculated correctly...and the Army's numbers are correct...I can drop 300lbs just in the engine/trans/case department. That's a significant chunk. No way the roll cage will weigh 300lbs.

Un-sprung weight isn't a big deal but the modern axles are lighter, the OEM military split rims and rubber weigh 140lbs a pop...so I am upbeat this thing may actually weigh less when I am done.

you make a good argument. i feel confident you can shed some pounds. even down to aluminum rims and radiator..

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« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2017, 01:52:05 PM »
Norm,  that is amazing history. Very cool to get that background.

Solid plan.


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« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2017, 02:09:41 PM »
This is going to be cool!
If only I had half of the 'stuff' laying around that you do...

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« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2017, 06:47:05 PM »
^^^ Half the stuff????

I'd settle for a corner's worth from one of Norm's sheds

(Shed the one with 4 walls and a roof, that's leanin' a bit? Do I have that right?)
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« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2017, 10:18:46 PM »
^^^ Half the stuff????

I'd settle for a corner's worth from one of Norm's sheds

(Shed the one with 4 walls and a roof, that's leanin' a bit? Do I have that right?)
Fair enough, you're right. A corners worth in a 'shed' would likely be plenty.
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« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2017, 08:08:34 AM »
Some may question my choice regarding keeping the OEM springs/suspension on a 1951 vintage truck. The picture below is a stock suspension as Dodge designed it. This particular truck also sports 39" swampers for an idea of how easily these trucks can handle 40" rubber.






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« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2017, 08:52:08 AM »
Norm, as I was looking at that flex picture it dawned on me that you will be running a stock suspension with huge tires and the load those tires (including weight of vehicle) may induce upon "stock type" steering components.

If you're interested I have a part you may want. Years ago a good friend of mine wheeled a similar setup (probably more stock than what you will be running) anyhow over time he broke several spector shafts in the steering gear box. His solution was to essentially put the pitman arm in double shear. He machined a special nut to ride in a simple pillow block then made a lower frame mount for said pillow block. The result was he no longer broke those shafts and the rig was reliable 10x over stock. I need to look around but I'm pretty sure I still have one of those setups....

If you're interested that is?
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« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2017, 12:41:59 PM »
Norm, I'm looking forward to this build!  :likebutton:
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« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2017, 07:39:41 AM »
My plans for steering are vague at the moment. Technology has come a long ways in the last few years, making a full hydraulic system a possibility.

Pros:
No need to mount a steering box.
No need to concern myself with cross over steering clearance (read low lift heights are possible, I like low trucks)
No additional frame stress from steering large heavy locked rubber
Simplifies the steering column issue a lot

Cons: No physical link to the wheels...
Possibly cost... although I think it's a wash likely by the time you add both systems up completely.

I.d like to see the sector shaft double shear idea... because likely I'd use a 78 F150/Bronco Saginaw box if I go that route...and I have broke a few of those sectors.








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« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2017, 11:01:50 AM »
Let me do some digging Norm, think I might know where they piece is....
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« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2017, 02:02:39 PM »
You guys mean Pitman shafts?

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« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2017, 02:14:47 PM »
You guys mean Pitman shafts?

Not sure what liberal mechanics call them, I always referred to them as Spector shafts....
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« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2017, 03:07:56 PM »
The spline equipped do hicky that protrudes from the steering box Ken. That's what breaks usually LoL
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« Reply #25 on: January 10, 2017, 05:08:51 PM »
Well after a few phone calls and some additional research, I am fairly sure it will have a Ford F150 Saginaw Box. The other option is a Scout box...but they aren't as robust. So I will have to now find one and rebuild it. I think I have 3 or 4...just need to remember where LoL

I also weighed a M37 bed. 620lbs ish. Now calculating a little, I think I can reduce that to 350lbs with some fab work. So...I now need to move 350lbs off the front end to keep things balanced. Radiator in the bed would be handy...batteries can go back there easily enough..maybe mid mount the winch? More thinking to be done....
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« Reply #26 on: January 10, 2017, 09:18:31 PM »
The spline equipped do hicky that protrudes from the steering box Ken. That's what breaks usually LoL

Both shafts have splines, duh! haha

(I've heard it called sector ..not spector...I think it was a ford thing, most everyone else calls it pitman..Shawn  :P)


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« Reply #27 on: January 10, 2017, 11:06:35 PM »
Spector sector, whatever typical left elitist rant right there..... :rolleyes:
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« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2017, 05:05:17 PM »
the pitman connected to the, pitman arm, the pitman arm connected to the, drag link, the drag link connected to the steering knuckle, the steering knuckle connected to the knuckle head! :knucklehead:
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« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2017, 05:34:39 PM »
Ha! Ha!  :likebutton:
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« Reply #30 on: January 12, 2017, 09:07:51 PM »
Spector sector, whatever typical left elitist rant right there..... :rolleyes:
Kinda of hard right there bro, man...

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« Reply #31 on: January 12, 2017, 09:15:45 PM »
Spector sector, whatever typical left elitist rant right there..... :rolleyes:
Kinda of hard right there bro, man...

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« Reply #32 on: January 12, 2017, 10:24:58 PM »
I can't believe that you would mess up Norm's thread with all this jealousy nonsense.  :knucklehead:


We need to make room for some photos, unless, maybe, he's trying to dig his way to the barn...oops...I mean shed.

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« Reply #33 on: January 13, 2017, 07:09:29 AM »
Norms out driving in whatever comes his way more than likely!  Be safe Norm  :popcorn:
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Re: Our G741 Project
« Reply #34 on: January 13, 2017, 09:02:23 AM »
He has a pretty big ice storm at the doorstep. Going to be an interesting Saturday for our strange inheritance (Norm)

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« Reply #35 on: January 13, 2017, 01:37:30 PM »
LoL.... Ya all pay better attention to the weather here than I do. First I heard of this storm , is what I read right here.

My only concern is they may cancel school, and I will have to put up with 4 teenage girls all at once.

It does sound like a inch of ice, a few inches of snow and gusty winds. So I imagine power outages are a possibility/likely.

Kay is off work until Mon morning, So the biggest challenge will be picking out which pairs of yoga pants she wears while we watch it storm.



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« Reply #36 on: January 13, 2017, 01:47:12 PM »
I'm sure one of a dozen or so rigs on your property could handle the transport of the teens to someone else's house for the day. preserve your sanity Norm. Retired farmers' lives matter!
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« Reply #37 on: January 13, 2017, 03:06:11 PM »
& here I thought all farmers were born with a barometer in their right pinky toe....
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« Reply #38 on: January 13, 2017, 05:00:42 PM »
It seems they (community leader types) seem to feel this storm may be amusing. They are testing emergency Gen sets, power and light has chains on their trucks. Local police have the studs on two of the 4x4's and so forth....

About a hour ago NOAA briefed the truck stops and motels and such to expect I80 to be closed Sunday afternoon or earlier.

So I decided I'd make preparations also. I looked to see if Patches chains are in the truck box, they were. I also checked to see if the chains, straps, clevis's, and hand held propane torch (to open doors) are also in the box...they are.

That done I decided since it's a balmy 25 degrees I'd seed the lawn....so I tossed down 150lbs of grass seed and filled the bird feeders with oiled sunflower seeds, and we are now ready.



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Re: Our G741 Project
« Reply #39 on: January 14, 2017, 07:29:17 PM »
I'm sure one of a dozen or so rigs on your property could handle the transport of the teens to someone else's house for the day. preserve your sanity Norm. Retired farmers' lives matter!
Use one of the M37's to pull one of his "Sheds" upright and pull out some old 440 powered power-wagon or something else he forgot he owned. Maybe even discover where that speed boat is stored...

Power wagon...Wish I hadn't mentioned that...I'm trying to imagine those trucks don't exist so I won't want one...
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« Reply #40 on: January 15, 2017, 07:20:43 PM »
For some reason every time Norm mentions one of his "sheds / barns". This is what I have in my mind. Lol




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Re: Our G741 Project
« Reply #41 on: January 15, 2017, 09:12:47 PM »
I'm guessing it would be way mo filled then that.....
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« Reply #42 on: January 15, 2017, 11:24:59 PM »
Picture more like Sanford and sons meets American pickers LoL
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« Reply #43 on: January 16, 2017, 06:22:26 AM »
so you have a drunk friend gang constantly drops by and a witch if a sister in law that comes and spreads her opinions and condemnations like butter..? hahah

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« Reply #44 on: January 16, 2017, 02:35:18 PM »
Picture more like Sanford and sons meets American pickers LoL

Is that garage big enough though?
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« Reply #45 on: January 18, 2017, 12:34:57 PM »
I posted this once before... take a look, does it look "correct" to you? This is a M37 on a 92 Dodge frame complete with 6bt....kinda interesting.



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« Reply #46 on: January 18, 2017, 12:40:34 PM »
Not sure how correct but I like it none the less
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« Reply #47 on: January 18, 2017, 01:17:55 PM »
I personally don't have a liking of the colour choice, but not lookin at the yellow I do like it.
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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« Reply #48 on: January 18, 2017, 01:59:33 PM »
I personally don't have a liking of the colour choice, but not lookin at the yellow I do like it.

I'm not a fan of the pigment choice either, but I take great offense to your spelling of the word "colour".  :tongue:
Even my spell check agrees with me.

Oh, and I'm half Canadian and have Canadian friends so that's not racist!
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« Reply #49 on: January 18, 2017, 02:49:12 PM »
It's YELLO LoL
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