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Re: SquareD Part 8, This thing ever going to get finished?
« Reply #100 on: March 21, 2017, 07:25:10 PM »
Missing a number on that ESN

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« Reply #101 on: March 21, 2017, 07:25:37 PM »
Should be 8 digits

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« Reply #102 on: March 21, 2017, 07:37:50 PM »
I'll check it in the morning with better spectacles

It's soaking wet at the moment...Just washed the thing

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« Reply #103 on: March 21, 2017, 07:42:50 PM »
Hmmm never heard of anyone letting water stand in the way of glory....

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« Reply #104 on: March 21, 2017, 08:48:23 PM »
^ this guy is bringing all the win

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« Reply #105 on: March 21, 2017, 08:52:26 PM »
Hmmm never heard of anyone letting water stand in the way of glory....

Must be a chinook thing, maybe that catfish pilot can grace us with his presence & confirm..... :popcorn:
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Re: SquareD Part 8, This thing ever going to get finished?
« Reply #106 on: March 22, 2017, 02:56:29 PM »
Did the flood subside?

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« Reply #107 on: March 22, 2017, 03:50:46 PM »
I see something green in there!!
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« Reply #108 on: March 22, 2017, 08:51:09 PM »
Did the flood subside?
Oh crap! I forgot to get you that engine number...I was busy putting my saw mill together...
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« Reply #109 on: March 22, 2017, 09:01:39 PM »
Is this what its like being retired?

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« Reply #110 on: March 22, 2017, 09:35:56 PM »
Is this what its like being retired?
I guess so...
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« Reply #111 on: March 22, 2017, 11:11:21 PM »
Lol, help me help you Don.

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« Reply #112 on: March 23, 2017, 05:43:53 PM »
Ok, since i haven't got the full esn yet, i filled the extra number in with one that gave me a 5.9 b series with the p7100 inline pump, built in Aug of 1995. Close enough.
Minimum pressure to the injection pump at high idle must be 18 psi.
Didnt see if this was covered. But this is the first step, aside from making sure you have fuel in  the tank lol

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« Reply #113 on: March 23, 2017, 05:52:37 PM »
Next i need you to call me to discuss the next step. Too hard to text.

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« Reply #114 on: March 23, 2017, 10:38:47 PM »
18 psi, check!

I'll install that fuel pressure gage in a day or two...I'm still messing with the saw mill
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« Reply #115 on: March 27, 2017, 02:27:14 PM »
Well??

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« Reply #116 on: March 27, 2017, 04:37:28 PM »
Well??

You're new here huh?  :popcorn:


Sorry, Don isn't the quickest when it comes to SQ D.....
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« Reply #117 on: March 27, 2017, 04:47:07 PM »
Well??

You're new here huh?  :popcorn:


Sorry, Don isn't the quickest when it comes to SQ D.....

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Re: SquareD Part 8, This thing ever going to get finished?
« Reply #118 on: March 27, 2017, 06:15:49 PM »
Well??

Thanks for asking.

Still clearing up the Sawmill...Doing family stuff, working on VFD board stuff, and so many other things...

I'll get to it, just not the priority just now...
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« Reply #119 on: March 27, 2017, 06:39:29 PM »
Imagine the extra room you'd have in the garage if you'd just let me swing by and take that off your hands.....


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« Reply #120 on: March 29, 2017, 12:20:10 PM »
Lol, no not new. Been following the build for a few years. Just been in the shadows. But i see a guy that has a problem with some that i happen to be very knowledgeable in and i feel compelled to help. Plus the truck itself, I have a w250 myself and I'm all about keeping them going. Its personal for me i guess lol

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« Reply #121 on: March 29, 2017, 12:26:56 PM »
You and SD can come out of the shadows together!!!!
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Re: SquareD Part 8, This thing ever going to get finished?
« Reply #122 on: April 01, 2017, 08:03:25 PM »
Back on the truck today. It took longer than I expected, but I solved the Proportioning valve problem. The top aft line was not screwed in, because it simply did not fit.
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« Reply #123 on: April 01, 2017, 08:04:48 PM »
This is the pesky port that I can't figure out what size nor type fitting actually fits
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« Reply #124 on: April 01, 2017, 08:06:09 PM »
Going with JR's recommendation, I picked up a master brake fitting selection from summit. With this I was able to figure out the fittings I needed. It helped me determine what fittings to select for the master cylinder as well
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« Reply #125 on: April 01, 2017, 08:07:31 PM »
Something like this with an inverted flare seemed to be the strongest candidate, but this fitting does not accept another fitting to adapt to the 3/16 SAE thread
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« Reply #126 on: April 01, 2017, 08:08:44 PM »
After trying everything and coming up null, I spied my selection of steel lines. I grabbed a 1/4" line and it screwed right in like it was meant to!
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« Reply #127 on: April 01, 2017, 08:11:33 PM »
But...The 1/4" line was too large for the master cyl, and I had no way to reduce the line to 3/16"...what to do??

So to capture this for future generations, the aft port is 7/16 X 24 and I used a fitting with a 3/16" bore
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« Reply #128 on: April 01, 2017, 08:14:47 PM »
Now the interesting part is that the 95 Dodge 2500 master cylinder which utilizes a hydro brake setup is metric. So the top of the line requires a M10 X 1.5 with a 3/16" bore. If you get these two fittings and have the ability to flare your own line, then you can adapt the later (Much mo-better hydro brake system to the earlier brake system

I stacked some stainless washers onto both sets of studs to space the valve inward toward vehicle center to make it easier to work on.
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« Reply #129 on: April 01, 2017, 08:16:38 PM »
Luckily, I had made the lines plenty long enough, so I decided to simply re-engineer the existing line by adding the new fittings to make it all fit
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« Reply #130 on: April 01, 2017, 08:18:19 PM »
The process is easy with the right tools. I've had this flaring tool since the 1980's
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« Reply #131 on: April 01, 2017, 08:18:52 PM »
That is a nice set. Do you have the little buttons for the double flare? Brake lines require a double flare.

 Did you and Lane ever touch bases?
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« Reply #132 on: April 01, 2017, 08:19:21 PM »
And you end up with this:
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« Reply #133 on: April 01, 2017, 08:20:11 PM »
That is a nice set. Di you and Lane ever touch bases?
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« Reply #134 on: April 01, 2017, 08:21:27 PM »
Yep, we have talked a couple time about my stuff.
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« Reply #135 on: April 01, 2017, 08:22:10 PM »
Then I lubed everything and reinstalled the valve. With spacing it outward, it definitely made reassembly much easier
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« Reply #136 on: April 01, 2017, 08:23:49 PM »
Then I bled the master cylinder, reattached the lines, then bent the loops into a horizontal configuration to eliminate places for bubbles to hide, and filled the master cylinder
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« Reply #137 on: April 01, 2017, 08:26:43 PM »
So with this sort of in the bag, I discovered two new problems. First I have a very strange brake pedal travel. It seems to push against a spring for 80% of its travel, then finally "bite" into some solid hydraulic pumping action. I suspect the rod length is improperly set, or the brake pedal linkage needs adjusting. All of that is either adapted or homemade

And secondly, I have this to deal with:
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« Reply #138 on: April 01, 2017, 08:29:23 PM »
Those would be two enlarging pools of brake fluid!!!!!!

A quick inspection told me, well jogged my memory. I had left the flex lines loose to the calipers because I didn't have fresh copper washers. I use them once then discard. So whenever I pulled the calipers down to fix something else, I never followed up with the new washers. I don't have any on hand so in the morrow, I'll go find some...
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« Reply #139 on: April 01, 2017, 10:44:03 PM »
I will re-use the ones with ridges, but not smooth ones.
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Re: SquareD Part 8, This thing ever going to get finished?
« Reply #140 on: April 02, 2017, 03:13:10 AM »
The lack of tight on the caliper lines may explain some of the odd pedal travel too.

Guys, he's working on the brakes, that really only leaves the engine... :beercheers:
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« Reply #141 on: April 04, 2017, 08:52:55 PM »
I picked up an assortment of copper washers
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« Reply #142 on: April 04, 2017, 08:54:29 PM »
I never noticed this before, but the brake line is all up in the lower shock mount. That is a chafe away from a brake failure!
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« Reply #143 on: April 04, 2017, 08:56:23 PM »
So first of all, I made up some standoff's to positioned the brake line 1.5" further north which placed it away from the flange area and away from things
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« Reply #144 on: April 04, 2017, 08:57:19 PM »
The same operation was required on the opposite side as well
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« Reply #145 on: April 04, 2017, 08:58:19 PM »
For those wanting the engine data plate, this is all that remains:
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« Reply #146 on: April 04, 2017, 09:01:32 PM »
With the brake lines connected to the front calipers, I refilled the master cylinder and checked for leaks.

This time I was leak free. but there is definitely something funky with respect to that brake pedal travel that bears some teardown and investigation.

While I was in the area, I mounted the fuel pressure sending unit, and ran the wire through my previously silicone rubber bulkhead
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« Reply #147 on: April 04, 2017, 09:03:19 PM »
With the gage in hand, I really do not have a good place to mount it.

That has me looking at all that wasted dash space. I am having trouble justifying keeping that stock plastic in there when a simple flat panel with a hood would free up so much space...
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« Reply #148 on: April 04, 2017, 10:50:03 PM »
Just duct tape it until you actually get it running....
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« Reply #149 on: April 04, 2017, 11:57:43 PM »
Just duct tape it until you actually get it running....

You think duct tape will last that long? Then again it may outlast Don & I guess that would be a relevant outcome all things considered....., :popcorn:
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