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« on: October 04, 2014, 10:18:21 PM »
I said I would do a review/post up some info on lights, and here you go. I have pics and info on the following lights.

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1. Streamlight ProTac2L
2. SureFire Nitrolon
3. Intova
4. Inforce
5. Streamlight Polystinger
6. Petzl Tikka Headlamp

I should mention that, I will be giving information from the manufacturer, so as to give as accurate information as possible. As you can see, I have used/use a variety of lights, and for the most part prefer using LEDs. I tried to give you a sense of the brightness of the lights, but the camera doesn't really capture the differences very well. I took the pics from one wall in my bedroom to the other so approximately 10-13'.

What's also important to take into account is the amount of light that's "thrown" around the centerpoint. While it's nice to have a blinding light that throws light a long distance, you have to also consider the light that illuminates the scene, allowing you to notice objects in your immediate area. You can see the "halo" if you will in the pics. If I had more room I would put objects at different areas/distances so you could see how the "halo" is helpful is scene illumination.

I also keep a red filter on the headlamp and SureFire light, and they've been on there for years so I'm used to the diminished light output. You may not like it, but they aren't hard to swap out.





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« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2014, 10:23:24 PM »
StreamLight ProTac2L

Features Ten-Tap? Programming ? Choose from three user selectable programs:
1.) high/strobe/low (factory default)
2.) high only
3.) low/high
C4? LED illumination output and run times:
HIGH - 260 lumens; 5,600 candela peak beam intensity; runs 3 hours
LOW - 13 lumens; 300 candela peak beam intensity;  runs 50 hours
STROBE ? runs 6 hours
Includes two 3V CR123A lithium batteries and nylon holster
Solid State power regulation provides maximum light output throughout battery life
Rubber push-button tail switch
Durable, anodized aluminum construction with impact-resistant tempered glass lens
IPX7 waterproof to 1 meter for 30 minutes; 2 meter impact resistance tested
Unbreakable pocket clip
Anti-roll head
4.77? (12.12 cm); 2.8 oz (79 grams)





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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2014, 10:29:54 PM »
SureFire Nitrolon

Max Output -- White Light   65.0   lumens
Tactical Runtime**                     1.0   hours
Length                                     5.10   inches
Bezel Diameter                           1.25   inches
Weight w/Batteries                   4.1   ounces
Batteries                                   2   123A









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« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2014, 10:33:16 PM »
Intova

I wasn't able to find information on this light as I couldn't find the information on the website. I don't think it's made anymore but for sake of comparison, I included it.








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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2014, 10:37:35 PM »
Inforce

Again, I couldn't find information on this light as it's an older light and the closest similar light I could find was more powerful. But this light spends most of its time in my Jeep's center console.







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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2014, 10:41:11 PM »
Streamlight Polystinger LED

This all-purpose, non-conductive polymer flashlight is designed for the broadest range of lighting needs at the best value.

    Multi-function On/Off push-button switch lets you choose three lighting modes and strobe; designed for extremely long life; tested at 1 million actuations
    Three modes and strobe:
        High for a bright super-bright beam: 26,000 candela peak beam intensity; 385 lumens; runs 2 hours
        Medium for bright light and longer run times: 13,000 candela peak beam intensity; 195 lumens; runs 3.75 hours
        Low for when a less intense beam is needed and for extended run times: 6,500 candela peak beam intensity; 95 lumens; runs 7.25 hours
        Strobe for disorienting or signaling your location; runs 5.5 hours
    Deep-dish parabolic reflector produces a concentrated beam with optimum peripheral illumination; optimized electronics provides regulated intensity
    C4? LED Technology. Shock-proof with a 50,000 hr. lifetime
    Fits existing Stinger snap-in chargers; compact and mountable in any position
    10 hr. steady charge, 2.5 hr. fast charge, or PiggyBack? charger
    3-cell, 3.6 Volt Ni-Cd sub-C battery, rechargeable up to 1000 times
    3-cell, 3.6 Volt Ni-MH sub-C battery, rechargeable up to 1000 times
    Super-tough, non-conductive nylon polymer with non-slip rubberized comfort grip
    O-ring sealed, unbreakable polycarbonate lens with scratch-resistant coating
    IPX4 water-resistant; 3 meter impact resistance tested
    8.07? (20.50 cm) 11.5 oz (326 g)
    Serialized for positive identification
    Limited lifetime warranty
    Assembled in USA





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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2014, 10:45:11 PM »
Petzl Tikka

    Weight : 85 g
    Technology : STANDARD LIGHTING
    Beam pattern : wide
    Energy : 3 AAA/LR03 batteries (included)
    Battery compatibility : rechargeable Ni-MH
    Certification(s) : CE
    Watertightness : IP X4, weather resistant







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« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2014, 09:50:07 PM »
Whats funny is a about 5 year ago I would not have been caught dead with a light on my head, now, well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I've grown up.

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« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2014, 10:00:01 PM »
Whats funny is a about 5 year ago I would not have been caught dead with a light on my head, now, well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I've grown up.



I have been using head lamps for roughly the last 14 years.  I love em and always have several around just in case.
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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2014, 09:59:17 AM »
Whats funny is a about 5 year ago I would not have been caught dead with a light on my head, now, well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I've grown up.


I have been using head lamps for roughly the last 14 years.  I love em and always have several around just in case.


I think, I'm the same as Nate, I've been using headlamps for 10 years.
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« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2014, 12:09:59 PM »
Well, maybe it was a little longer than that. I do have an older Lowes ballcap with them built in and we had them at work too.

As much as I love the high dollar lights of which I have several I have been getting some "ULTRAFIRE" cree lights off ebay for some time now and they just seem to get better.

The ones I am using are rated at 300-500 lumen normally and one has a larger reflector that is rated at 1000, but I don't really see the diff. These run about $20 on ebay, use a single 3.7v 18650 Lithium battery. I have taken these camping several times and get about 2 hours from them on high. Most have 3 settings, high, low and strobe. Now the nice thing is many come with 2 batteries and a charger (110v) The batteries I get are rated at 5300ma and I keep several extra in the truck and they come with a small case that holds 2.

As for the light they put out, I would rate them with anything on the high end. Easily lighting up trees 500ft away.

There is also this nice little one called the S10. Its a little pricier at around $30, but had to try it. It uses a single CR123 cell and the light output is great. I think it is rated at 150 lumens. Obviously not on par with the Ultrafires but it does great when its dark, has 3 settings, a pocket clip and a magnet on the back that holds it solid.

Now put these all together with the Intellicharger I4 that sells for around $20-30 and you have a nice combo you can keep with you and charger on 12v DC and 110AC. Here is the 4 cell version charging 2 AA Nimh, 1 CR123 Lithium and a 18650 Lithium all at the same time. I keep the 2 cell in my truck.

The light picture is not the best at just 5 ft, but it was during the day on a white wall. Also sorry for the charger backdrop, it was handy vs all the wrenches with the drawer open.
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« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2014, 10:24:44 PM »
Nice lights JR. Randomly, as I will invariably acquire more lights, I'll keep this thread updated. If anyone else has lights they want to post up, review, call shenanigans or ask questions, it's all more than welcome.

Coincidentally, last night at work, my Streamlight ProTac's batteries started dying. Luckily, I have a little ziploc of more CR123s in the microwave stand. So for battery life, I'll give it an 8/10. I don't use it constantly, but the times I do use it, it all adds up. Even with the batteries dying, I was able to light up reflectors on trailers/railroad cars 100-300m away.
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« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2014, 10:47:42 AM »
Yeah, I have a thing about flashlights an have had really good luck with the imported stuff. I do think I had 1 switch go bad is it.

If you look you can find rail mounted light/laser combos for around $30. Again, not really high end but a great value.

The charger and batteries are always something to consider. Last batch of the batteries I got were 12 of the 123s for just $10. With the intellicharger you are pretty much set for any battery or power source.
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« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2014, 11:29:54 AM »
The charger and batteries are always something to consider. Last batch of the batteries I got were 12 of the 123s for just $10. With the intellicharger you are pretty much set for any battery or power source.

I keep thinking about getting a charger but never actually do. I just buy 123s in big packs and move on
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« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2015, 07:09:17 PM »
UPDATE:

As of last night my Streamlight PolyStinger has died. Cause unknown, but once I find a replacement battery; hopefully without calling Streamlight; I hope the problem is fixed. The rest of the lights are still in use, rolling around the Jeep or placed in my old ruck or etc.
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« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2015, 07:12:59 PM »
Whats funny is a about 5 year ago I would not have been caught dead with a light on my head, now, well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I've grown up.



I've used Petzel (fore) headlights since 05'

For operators I'd consider a "lip-Light" like we aviators use. It attaches to the outside of the mic boom and is momentarily turned on and off by pushing on the mic with your lip.

Another cool light is a finger light. Can Velcro around your finger or in some cases are sewn into the tips of Nomex gloves, which are darned nice shooting and scootin' gloves

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« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2015, 02:34:47 AM »
I've used Petzel (fore) headlights since 05'

For operators I'd consider a "lip-Light" like we aviators use. It attaches to the outside of the mic boom and is momentarily turned on and off by pushing on the mic with your lip.

Another cool light is a finger light. Can Velcro around your finger or in some cases are sewn into the tips of Nomex gloves, which are darned nice shooting and scootin' gloves

Nice write-up Bobby!

I had one of those finger lights. It was ok, but I kept forgetting I had it, or it kept slipping off.
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« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2015, 06:13:14 PM »
A buddy of mine Army paramedic, SAR etc. uses his headlight with the strap extended and around his neck. He said that way when you have it on and someone calls your name and you turn toward them you don't blind them. But it works well still that way for working with your hands. I have done it that way a few times but am not as comfortable with it flapping around. But I get his point. nothing worse than losing all your NV when you get blasted in the eyes.   

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« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2015, 06:15:32 PM »
A buddy of mine Army paramedic, SAR etc. uses his headlight with the strap extended and around his neck.   

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« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2015, 07:21:46 PM »
headlight with the strap extended and around his neck

That's how I use mine.
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« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2015, 10:42:23 PM »
I bought this one a couple of months ago and I really like it.  multiple light output modes and adapts to AA or CR123

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« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2017, 09:43:32 PM »
Hey, just curious if anyone has any experience with LED Lenser lights? Was looking at a few that look pretty decent.

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« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2017, 10:33:49 PM »
Hey, just curious if anyone has any experience with LED Lenser lights? Was looking at a few that look pretty decent.

I have like 8 of them. Look for them on Woot.com... daily deals site. I really like them to be honest with you. They're not big-name tac lights, but they work great, i have them in my center console in the truck, stashed in random places int he house, toolbox, RV, and in my backpack. I like that they use AAA batteries too, because i can stock a bunch of them because they're used in remote controls and stuff too. My favorite is the Tac Torch. Great balance of size and lumination. I paid 18 bucks for the Tac Torch on woot.

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« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2017, 08:30:13 AM »
Perfect, thanks for the info Dawg, those are exactly the uses I had in mind for mine as well!

And just in case someone didn't know, there's a Mil/LE/First Resp. price list with leatherman Pro that applies to LED Lenser as well. Cheers!
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« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2017, 10:03:06 AM »
So I have a few flashlights.

Some cheap, some not so cheap.  I was a Surefire snob for a while but the chinese and others have really stepped up their game and there are several lights that are well made and much more affordable.

Case in point:  I ordered this Fenix PD35 TAC from Amazon on the recommendation of a friend.  I have 4 fenix lights, including headlamps, one cell mini lights with 200 lumens, etc. 

This light claims to have 1000 lumens, strobe and multiple modes down to 5 lumen output.

When I got to the hide this evening it was dark so I thought I would put up against my Surefire M4 Devastator with a retrofit turbo LED head.

I have to say this little $73 light is pretty amazing for such a small package. It puts out a tremendous amount of light and much more in the first 25 yards.  The longer, focused reflector on the M4 makes it a pretty decent long range beam but it doesnt come close to the light output of this little light for lighting up the area immediately around you.

I recommend you check one out yourselves.


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« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2017, 10:05:27 AM »
The Surefire is a 4 cell light and that crenelated bezel can make a dent.

The Surefire

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« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2017, 10:05:55 AM »
I think that puts out more light then my stock jk headlamps.....
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« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2017, 10:06:12 AM »
That's impressive for the size. What's the power supply cr123s, probably two?

Wife and I carry a flashlight almost all the time. Just the small ones like the Streamlight micro stream, or others of that size.

We have a wide range of surefires, but my go to around the house, when the light isn't misplaced is my rechargeable streamlight, polystinger.

Streamlight 76160 PolyStinger LED Flashlight without Charger, Yellow https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002E1AUOE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_rztjAb9HJA1EZ

It lights up to the road out front and to the bushes out back, ~150 yds. And the battery lasts a long time on a charge.


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« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2017, 10:06:47 AM »

I searched for a flashlight thread.  Thought we had one.  Mods, feel free to move this to a more appropriate place


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« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2017, 10:07:08 AM »
Thanks Bobby. I know Nate does. If he can change my profile to get a laugh I’m sure he can move this.

Wyo, 2 CR123s

https://www.fenixlighting.com/product/pd35-tactical-edition-fenix-flashlight/

Once I figure out the modes and the front button I’ll report back. In “tactical mode” the tail cap switch is 1000 lumen when activates and when double pressed quickly its strobe at 1000 lumens.


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« Reply #30 on: December 04, 2017, 10:07:26 AM »
1000 lumens ouch especially in strobe.

I've been amazed with some of the cheaper knock offs.
This is definitely in that category.
A lot of light in a small package.
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« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2017, 10:09:06 AM »
fixed it for you TRN.

Thanks Bobby. I know Nate does. If he can change my profile to get a laugh I?m sure he can move this.

Wyo, 2 CR123s

https://www.fenixlighting.com/product/pd35-tactical-edition-fenix-flashlight/

Once I figure out the modes and the front button I?ll report back. In ?tactical mode? the tail cap switch is 1000 lumen when activates and when double pressed quickly its strobe at 1000 lumens.


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« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2017, 12:39:08 PM »
That's an intense strobe! Seizure mode or strobe to most with a thousand lumens!!! That's a lot.

I like cr123 lights because they are often powerful. But I can't buy an ultra mega huge pack of batteries from Costco like I can the AAA or AA. Which is sadly an important consideration for buying a light I believe!

May have to give that one a go though. As I'm pretty sure I bought a tiny Fenix from REI last year, but reverted back to the microstream as the daily light.

Thanks for the heads up on a good flashlight.


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« Reply #33 on: December 04, 2017, 02:55:04 PM »
Nate, have you seen the light thread from HC somewhere? It was a Fenix review iirc, and that's what I have been running ever since.

note: Fenix has been the best lights I have ever owned, period. They get used and abused at work every day, and normal use at home. I got the latest 18650 battery version that has a small usb charge port, so you don't have to remove the battery to charge....it's the UC35 model.

https://www.fenixlighting.com/product/uc35-fenix-flashlight/
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« Reply #34 on: December 04, 2017, 03:43:38 PM »
HC didn't do one on that light, he did one on the surefire m600
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« Reply #35 on: December 04, 2017, 04:19:40 PM »
Nate, have you seen the light thread from HC somewhere? It was a Fenix review iirc, and that's what I have been running ever since.

note: Fenix has been the best lights I have ever owned, period. They get used and abused at work every day, and normal use at home. I got the latest 18650 battery version that has a small usb charge port, so you don't have to remove the battery to charge....it's the UC35 model.

https://www.fenixlighting.com/product/uc35-fenix-flashlight/

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« Reply #36 on: December 04, 2017, 10:58:20 PM »
HC didn't do one on that light, he did one on the surefire m600
Hmm. I do remember him talking about it somewhere, maybe just in passing. Thanks.

Wyo, the first one (the smaller PD35) went a couple years before I dropped it just right and caused a bad connection in the led chip...that's after dropping it 50 other times. I've had the new one for about 8 months. I only have to charge it about every 2 weeks, sometimes less, sometimes more. I use to go through sheath lights every 6 months (Maglite style AA led), then switched to Lensers (my second favorite), then to Fenix. I'll never go back. It's as bright or brighter than all of my Streamlight c-cells in 1/3 the size, a bunch cheaper, and lasts way longer. Sorry it's long winded, but I really like those lights! can you tell? lol

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« Reply #37 on: December 05, 2017, 11:16:30 AM »
HC didn't do one on that light, he did one on the surefire m600
Hmm. I do remember him talking about it somewhere, maybe just in passing. Thanks.

Wyo, the first one (the smaller PD35) went a couple years before I dropped it just right and caused a bad connection in the led chip...that's after dropping it 50 other times. I've had the new one for about 8 months. I only have to charge it about every 2 weeks, sometimes less, sometimes more. I use to go through sheath lights every 6 months (Maglite style AA led), then switched to Lensers (my second favorite), then to Fenix. I'll never go back. It's as bright or brighter than all of my Streamlight c-cells in 1/3 the size, a bunch cheaper, and lasts way longer. Sorry it's long winded, but I really like those lights! can you tell? lol

That's good info! Long winded is probably better anyways. 

Here I am a huge fan of our few streamlights and have just been shown the light! Will have to look into them some more. Thanks Ken!