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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #250 on: December 01, 2017, 07:58:46 PM »
Maybe a chainsaw holster on the tractor with an ignition interrupt switch. If the saw is not in it the tractor won?t run


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« Reply #251 on: December 01, 2017, 08:39:51 PM »
You mean a DEAD MAN SWITCH!!!
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« Reply #252 on: December 01, 2017, 11:19:36 PM »
Maybe a chainsaw holster on the tractor with an ignition interrupt switch. If the saw is not in it the tractor won?t run


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We could add that to the tac track thread, maybe get an oil change going, soon it will have a Cummins swap and light bars and extra fuel tanks, spare tire rack, shovel and high lift jack, pop top topper add some dust and we can have a..... oh wait we already have square tire dodge


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« Reply #253 on: December 02, 2017, 11:58:12 AM »
Maybe a chainsaw holster on the tractor with an ignition interrupt switch. If the saw is not in it the tractor won?t run


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That's too practical!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #254 on: December 02, 2017, 08:39:05 PM »
Is everyone done?

Should I parse out another page or two for the "Helpful" suggestions  :facepalm:

OK, back at it. Two more days of reconfiguring nature down farmside.

First, check out the passive solar heaters. Can you believe the efficiency of these things? Outside air temp (in the sun, actual static temp was mid 50's. And the sensor located at the output of the heaters shows 100.6F Almost a forty degree delta there folks!

When I opened up the water tank storage shed doors, I was greeted by heat! As in it was actually hot in there. The high angle summer sun has some effect, however not all that much. The low angle winter sun just pushes photons into those black painted aluminum tubes. So far this thing is a stunning success. I will be using more of these things in my upcoming construction
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« Reply #255 on: December 02, 2017, 08:41:15 PM »
OK, well the awning has completely failed. I guess you could call it a CAREP although it has been a long time in the making
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« Reply #256 on: December 02, 2017, 08:43:30 PM »
I will be adding something a bit more of a permanent nature, although still easily moved should this camper be replaced by the one I really want.

First up, off with the old in preparation for the new deck/roof thing
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #257 on: December 02, 2017, 08:44:09 PM »
Is everyone done?

Should I parse out another page or two for the "Helpful" suggestions  :facepalm:

OK, back at it. Two more days of reconfiguring nature down farmside.

First, check out the passive solar heaters. Can you believe the efficiency of these things? Outside air temp (in the sun, actual static temp was mid 50's. And the sensor located at the output of the heaters shows 100.6F Almost a forty degree delta there folks!

When I opened up the water tank storage shed doors, I was greeted by heat! As in it was actually hot in there. The high angle summer sun has some effect, however not all that much. The low angle winter sun just pushes photons into those black painted aluminum tubes. So far this thing is a stunning success. I will be using more of these things in my upcoming construction
Not fully remembering the build of this. Could you use the same idea on the roof of the shed? Would that work as well to gen heat?


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« Reply #258 on: December 02, 2017, 08:46:34 PM »
I am building the thing simply by leveling in concrete precast piers which hold 4X4s. Later on I will use a mobile home anchor thing to put some hold between it and the ground
 
Building this way will allow me to get something roofed in quickly. I started Friday and planned to depart Saturday afternoon after the framing was complete.
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« Reply #259 on: December 02, 2017, 08:50:42 PM »
Is everyone done?

Should I parse out another page or two for the "Helpful" suggestions  :facepalm:

OK, back at it. Two more days of reconfiguring nature down farmside.

First, check out the passive solar heaters. Can you believe the efficiency of these things? Outside air temp (in the sun, actual static temp was mid 50's. And the sensor located at the output of the heaters shows 100.6F Almost a forty degree delta there folks!

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Not fully remembering the build of this. Could you use the same idea on the roof of the shed? Would that work as well to gen heat?


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I'm going to add it to the walls of the shed. I will soon build the engineering room which contains the 1500 gal tank which collects rain water from the roof. I plan to go up a second story which will cut into the roof and create a space which will become a bathroom. Then further down the side, I will take another section of roof out and build a shed dormer with an attached deck which will be about 15 feet above the ground.

On those flat wall surfaces, I will attach some more of these solar heater units, including one dedicated to making hot water, and warming the floor near the bath and bed.
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« Reply #260 on: December 02, 2017, 08:51:48 PM »
This is about how far I got Friday evening. It took a considerable amount of time to pick up the lumber, then drive down.
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« Reply #261 on: December 02, 2017, 08:53:38 PM »
Yes the uprights are not plumb. But the deck is square and that's all I was shooting for at this point in the build.

That finished the day
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #262 on: December 02, 2017, 08:55:48 PM »
Inside, I hooked up a cheapo Blue Ray disc player and stacked up a slew of new movies. Normally after working all day, I'll grab a nice hot shower, then eat dinner while watching a movie. When done, it's lights out and a good night's sleep
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #263 on: December 02, 2017, 08:58:14 PM »
The sled dog stayed out all night. Hard to get that thing to come inside when the temps dip. The next morning was frosty which makes for great working weather. The dog's water froze during the night
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #264 on: December 02, 2017, 08:59:50 PM »
Next up, floor joists

That crooked post is growing on me ;-))
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« Reply #265 on: December 02, 2017, 09:03:16 PM »
Next up some bracing and the whateveryoucallem boards that the rafters set on.

I made this a very shallow slope. First I wanted a minimum of eight feet beneath the roof, and secondly to see how a shallow pitch works with rain and snow. I will likely use a much shallower pitch on the dormers that are upcoming.
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« Reply #266 on: December 02, 2017, 09:05:12 PM »
And now for some rafter action. No hurricane ties yet...forgot to buy them so I'll add them later on
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #267 on: December 02, 2017, 09:08:44 PM »
That's a 8 X 14 deck BTW, and will have a generous overhanging metal roof, same as the pavilion standing next to it

Next up are the roof nailers. I used 2 X 4 X 16 to give me that added coverage. I laid the nailers in such a way as to provide 6" more clearance on the west side, the direction all our weather comes from
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #268 on: December 02, 2017, 09:11:56 PM »
And I made it!

Finished just as the sun's sphere touched the horizon. I was packed up and motoring out before EECT

Anyone know what that is?

Or EENT?

or EEAT?

No nails in this except for the special nails used in the joist hangers. HD screws were used throughout. 3.5" for most of the framing and 3" for the 2 X 4 nailers
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« Reply #269 on: December 02, 2017, 09:47:15 PM »
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Those precast blocks are perfect for this sort of thing.....
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« Reply #270 on: December 02, 2017, 10:15:18 PM »
That?s looking good. I had to look up the abbreviations, I had an idea what they were, but not exactly.

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« Reply #271 on: December 02, 2017, 11:04:28 PM »
What happened to the saw mill that was going to save thousands of dollars on lumber?  Buying wood at HD?


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« Reply #272 on: December 02, 2017, 11:13:22 PM »
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What happened to the saw mill that was going to save thousands of dollars on lumber?  Buying wood at HD?


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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #274 on: December 03, 2017, 07:39:15 AM »
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Bostitch-Framing-Nailer/3348476

Best $50 I ever spent.  Makes installing those simpson nails a piece of cake.  Much cheaper than the simpson screws (although those do have their place)

I love those torx drive screws and will never use phillips deck screws again.

Question Don:  Why do you need hurricane straps on that roof when the base is held down by gravity?  By the time the roof wants to fly off it will be taking the whole base with it....

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« Reply #275 on: December 03, 2017, 09:51:15 AM »
What happened to the saw mill that was going to save thousands of dollars on lumber?  Buying wood at HD?


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But since you managed to get through somehow...Yea, I was conflicted about powering up the mill to cut the timbers. One thing I have found it that it takes a pretty good sized Cedar to make a big beam. The trunks are very convoluted and that makes finding a clear/strong path in the length you want a bit of a challenge.
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« Reply #276 on: December 03, 2017, 09:56:58 AM »
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Bostitch-Framing-Nailer/3348476

Best $50 I ever spent.  Makes installing those simpson nails a piece of cake.  Much cheaper than the simpson screws (although those do have their place)

I love those torx drive screws and will never use phillips deck screws again.

Question Don:  Why do you need hurricane straps on that roof when the base is held down by gravity?  By the time the roof wants to fly off it will be taking the whole base with it....


Good question!

Here's my reasoning. The only thing that will get any wind exposure is the roof. I expect it to move some, although I am planning on some better trussing to tighten it up some more. With the constant wind that place sees, I was thinking more along the lines of constant flexing tearing at the two cross set screws I have holding the rafter in place. I thought a hurricane strap might limit that flexing.
Additionally, there will be some weight on the deck surface in time and I will have it "Screwed" into the ground with mobile home anchors, so in all reality, it should be fairly solidly anchored at some point.

For now, I had a great couple days of good weather I wanted to capitalize on to get it framed. Goal being to get something to screw down a roof to before the wet sets in.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #277 on: December 04, 2017, 06:45:52 AM »
Don, are you going to engineer an angled overhang for the trailer side of the roof?  Would help the wind go over instead of under the tin and create slight down force.
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« Reply #278 on: December 04, 2017, 10:43:23 AM »
Don, are you going to engineer an angled overhang for the trailer side of the roof?  Would help the wind go over instead of under the tin and create slight down force.
Hadn't thought of it Mikey

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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #279 on: December 04, 2017, 10:44:44 AM »
Actually, I was going to hang a section of something like HD tar paper down from the deck roof onto the camper roof
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #280 on: December 04, 2017, 12:03:59 PM »
Just a 1-2 foot section angled down from the high spot over hanging over the camper with about a 1-2 inch gap to keep it off the rubber Rv roof allowing air to flow over it.
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« Reply #281 on: December 04, 2017, 02:53:23 PM »
Just a 1-2 foot section angled down from the high spot over hanging over the camper with about a 1-2 inch gap to keep it off the rubber Rv roof allowing air to flow over it.
And why the air gap?

Abrasion prevention?
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« Reply #282 on: December 04, 2017, 03:11:50 PM »
Just a 1-2 foot section angled down from the high spot over hanging over the camper with about a 1-2 inch gap to keep it off the rubber Rv roof allowing air to flow over it.
And why the air gap?

Abrasion prevention?

exactly, with the two sitting independent and free of each other, the rocking might wear into the roof of the trailer.  Ever been in one when it's really blowing?  In 2012 during the hurricane that hit the east coast so bad, I was in Michigan killing a day due to storms inside mine.  All 4 corners leveled, wheels chocked, and locked and the thing was rocking 2+ inches side to side!  On the outside, it must of looked like Jannett Reno and Hildabeast were going at it inside!  If you wanted, you could put some roofing starter strip or valley seal to bridge that gap without causing any potential damage.
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« Reply #283 on: December 04, 2017, 10:53:40 PM »
If tha trailer's a rockin don't bother knockin....
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« Reply #284 on: December 12, 2017, 07:07:41 PM »
I glued up a bunch of 2 X 10's to 2 X 4's creating a 13" wide beam from which I'll create some arches for the new deck
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« Reply #285 on: December 12, 2017, 07:13:50 PM »
I noticed some wobble in the spindly 4X4s I'm using so it needs more bracing to be sure. I had already placed in 2X4X30 angle bracing which I will be removing and replacing with a wider brace which is nearly four feet long.

Since the brace will be attached much lower on the post, I didn't want it getting in the way, so I decided to build this arched thing. I was also hoping to add a wee bit of architectural detail to try and lure the female farm owner down there every once in awhile.

This is what I was thinking about:
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« Reply #286 on: December 12, 2017, 07:17:44 PM »
After allowing the glue to set up overnight, I cut the 45's on each side, then marked off 2" segments to transfer the measurements accurately. The scale of the drawing is 2" per block to make that part easy.

After marking off the arch I came up with something that looked rather "Fat," and not at all slender yet strong.
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« Reply #287 on: December 12, 2017, 07:19:51 PM »
So I redrew it and attached a marker to a long string and used that to trace out the arches, coming up with a much better design
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« Reply #288 on: December 12, 2017, 07:21:50 PM »
I cut up the rest of the blanks I had, but still have three curing so a bit more cutting tomorrow to be done with these. They sanded up fairly nicely so I'll go with it as is
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« Reply #289 on: December 12, 2017, 07:26:23 PM »
Believe it or not, I still had a couple things left to do on the outhouse so I knocked almost all of them out. I cut the business hole out of the laminate counter top so things would have a place to go, and the vent could be attached. Then the underside got two coats of primer sealer. It will be ready to reinstall tomorrow. THis will finish the privy build and I get it loaded and hauled down there and mounted on that foundation I built early in the fall.

It's all about just completing the open projects I have all over...SquareD, outhouse, deck, pavilion roof thing, rock wall, pond,... and ...
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« Reply #290 on: December 12, 2017, 07:28:39 PM »
I scored a fantastic deal on a recon Dewalt 20 volt scroll saw. What a great tool this thing is. I paid $114 for it and man, its worth every cent. I have been adding tools to my 20 volt collection which I'll talk about over in the tool section.
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« Reply #291 on: December 16, 2017, 09:04:53 PM »
Drilled holes into one end of the arch through which I'll insert some structural 5/16" screws
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« Reply #292 on: December 16, 2017, 09:06:15 PM »
Brief interlude as I finish the privy

The seat was cut out, then laid onto a bed of silicone.
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« Reply #293 on: December 16, 2017, 09:09:17 PM »
Yea, its a bit dusty, but it will get cleaned up after we bolt it down on the foundation over the boy's summer digging project.

The vent pile was sealed up with silicone as was all the seams around the box and floor. Then the outside was capped and pumped full of poly foam.

No pics, but obviously I pulled the excess foam off
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« Reply #294 on: December 16, 2017, 09:10:07 PM »
The door and frame had swollen so I trimmed those up and now have a good fit
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« Reply #295 on: December 16, 2017, 09:12:10 PM »
Lastly, I sealed up all the gaps up in the roof and screwed down the vent insect screen. At this point the thing is buttoned up pretty well and should be nearly bug proof.

It is now completely done and ready to get loaded, and hauled down to the farm
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #296 on: December 16, 2017, 09:14:07 PM »
Down farmside, I boxed in the posts, readying the structure for the 5/4" deck board

Here is the stack of 16 footers ready to be screwed down to give us a surface to stand on
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #297 on: December 16, 2017, 09:15:02 PM »
I started in front of the door with a short piece spanning between the posts
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #298 on: December 16, 2017, 09:16:22 PM »
Adding each board and coaxing it into position
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5
« Reply #299 on: December 16, 2017, 09:18:37 PM »
Yep, came up two boards short!

Next up the short step with a 6 3/4" rise in front of the door
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