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Re: "12 Square" a 12' X 12' shed project
« Reply #150 on: March 19, 2018, 09:37:49 PM »
Four more pieces of smart panel and we should have the end gables all filled in and weather tite.

When I mount the two together, there will be a gap between the panels which will be used to route wiring and will get covered by more trim pieces after assembly
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« Reply #151 on: March 19, 2018, 09:45:38 PM »
And so far, here is where the project stands:


Total Cost  $2159   Total hours  53.0

I still have to purchase the roof materials, the soffits, the gutters, a door knob and dead bolt and some 3/4" to rip down for use as trim pieces.

But I'm nearing the final stretch, and should be able to squeeze this in under $2500 and have a full 8' wall height. My savings will be around 50% less than a purchased unit.
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Re: "12 Square" a 12' X 12' shed project
« Reply #152 on: March 19, 2018, 11:07:58 PM »
In years passed we framed the facia and soffit onto the gabel ends all in one shot.  Granted it makes it heavy to lift but sure beats doing it from a ladder


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Re: "12 Square" a 12' X 12' shed project
« Reply #153 on: March 19, 2018, 11:10:24 PM »
Sounds like good planning and execution Don.  I have a pile of receipts for my casita and haven't even started adding up the cost yet.

I'm afraid of what I might find....
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Re: "12 Square" a 12' X 12' shed project
« Reply #154 on: March 20, 2018, 09:50:35 AM »
Sounds like good planning and execution Don.  I have a pile of receipts for my casita and haven't even started adding up the cost yet.

I'm afraid of what I might find....

Just burn them Charles......It's not like you're going to return anything to the store! :laugh:
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« Reply #155 on: March 20, 2018, 09:28:58 PM »
Sounds like good planning and execution Don.  I have a pile of receipts for my casita and haven't even started adding up the cost yet.

I'm afraid of what I might find....

Just burn them Charles......It's not like you're going to return anything to the store! :laugh:
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Re: "12 Square" a 12' X 12' shed project
« Reply #156 on: March 20, 2018, 09:41:41 PM »
finished up the gable ends to painting...a bit of trim and they are finished ready to install.

First I finished sheeting the first end piece
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« Reply #157 on: March 20, 2018, 09:42:47 PM »
Then did about the same procedure with the second one. I think I may be using too many screws, since its the glue which really bonds the thing together
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« Reply #158 on: March 20, 2018, 09:43:30 PM »
Then in short order, I had the second one completed and ready for paint
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« Reply #159 on: March 20, 2018, 09:44:56 PM »
Then two coats of that Good titanium based paint from the Home Depot courtesy of a certain building guru who hangs out here.
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« Reply #160 on: March 20, 2018, 09:45:54 PM »
And some of the same good paint for the vent trim pieces
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Re: "12 Square" a 12' X 12' shed project
« Reply #161 on: March 20, 2018, 09:47:15 PM »
And, could you believe it...When shuffling stuff around, I knocked over my old Dewalt 110 VAC saw and broke the adjustment knob off GRRRRRRRR>>>>>>>
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« Reply #162 on: March 20, 2018, 11:21:54 PM »
And, could you believe it...When shuffling stuff around, I knocked over my old Dewalt 110 VAC saw and broke the adjustment knob off GRRRRRRRR>>>>>>>

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« Reply #163 on: March 20, 2018, 11:26:08 PM »
Better go buy a battery powered one


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« Reply #164 on: March 20, 2018, 11:55:18 PM »
And, could you believe it...When shuffling stuff around, I knocked over my old Dewalt 110 VAC saw WITH THE SLV-95 AND RAN OVER IT and broke the adjustment knob off GRRRRRRRR>>>>>>>

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Re: "12 Square" a 12' X 12' shed project
« Reply #165 on: March 21, 2018, 12:28:32 AM »
And, could you believe it...When shuffling stuff around, I knocked over my old Dewalt 110 VAC saw WITH THE SLV-95 AND RAN OVER IT and broke the adjustment knob off GRRRRRRRR>>>>>>>

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But, but, it wasn't even orange colored how did that happen!?! :knucklehead:
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« Reply #166 on: March 21, 2018, 08:47:56 AM »
I have broken some tools that way also. I have found there are many websites where you can buy parts and pieces to repair the tool. Just do a search on the brand and model number and sites will pop up. Most of the time it is cost effective to repair the tool especially if you can do it yourself. But, if a guy wants a new tool this broken one can be used on the wife as proof of death/use. Then get a new tool and fix the old. I just finished rebuilding an echo chainsaw and used www.ereplacementparts.com. Needed the saw working for doing volunteer work for a widow of an LAPD officer who is on our list to watch out for. We do what we call a widow run. There are several widows we know who are elderly so we work for free or free with the materials they purchase. Some of the work is just heavy lifting like keeping their water softeners full and such.
The shed is looking great. I wish more people would tackle their own builds at home. They would end up with a better product than can be purchased most of the time. Your added design features, like the truss tail scrolls and window trim scroll work, would add significantly to the cost so in an apples to apples comparison you are coming out nicely.
I am still having great results with the Behr paint and am buying more today. If anyone else here wants 20% off Behr paint right at the register PM me for the discount number to enter at checkout. Or ask Don for the information.

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« Reply #167 on: March 21, 2018, 11:04:21 AM »
Better go buy a battery powered one


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« Reply #168 on: March 21, 2018, 11:10:30 AM »
I have broken some tools that way also. I have found there are many websites where you can buy parts and pieces to repair the tool. Just do a search on the brand and model number and sites will pop up. Most of the time it is cost effective to repair the tool especially if you can do it yourself. But, if a guy wants a new tool this broken one can be used on the wife as proof of death/use. Then get a new tool and fix the old. I just finished rebuilding an echo chainsaw and used www.ereplacementparts.com. Needed the saw working for doing volunteer work for a widow of an LAPD officer who is on our list to watch out for. We do what we call a widow run. There are several widows we know who are elderly so we work for free or free with the materials they purchase. Some of the work is just heavy lifting like keeping their water softeners full and such.
The shed is looking great. I wish more people would tackle their own builds at home. They would end up with a better product than can be purchased most of the time. Your added design features, like the truss tail scrolls and window trim scroll work, would add significantly to the cost so in an apples to apples comparison you are coming out nicely.
I am still having great results with the Behr paint and am buying more today. If anyone else here wants 20% off Behr paint right at the register PM me for the discount number to enter at checkout. Or ask Don for the information.
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With respect to this simple shed build, you could really save closer to 75% when looking at it apples to apples. This is the size of a small home, for those wanting to go that route...A small home, or hunting cabin, or weekender vaca home for under $3,000!

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« Reply #169 on: March 21, 2018, 11:10:50 AM »
If it was orange, he would have run over it!

I will need some paint for the new bathroom and hallway. Already have the paint for the room.
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« Reply #170 on: March 22, 2018, 08:10:03 PM »
Vents installed, trimmed and touched up...Now ready for installation onto the shed base
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« Reply #171 on: March 22, 2018, 08:10:56 PM »
All loaded up

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Roof metal is all ordered
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« Reply #172 on: April 06, 2018, 09:06:03 AM »
Spring break from school = Slave labor (When you have kids)

And that means time to throw up a roof.

With two able bodied young menses here's where we started:
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« Reply #173 on: April 06, 2018, 09:07:31 AM »
Employing the tractor with the mining tire on it to lift stuff all the way up to the top:
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« Reply #174 on: April 06, 2018, 09:09:09 AM »
We did the two end gables first, securing them with a whole bunch of screws. And btw, there are no nails in this structure, only screws, structural lag screws and glue
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« Reply #175 on: April 06, 2018, 09:09:56 AM »
Then came the ridge beam. I used a 2X6 to make it really solid
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« Reply #176 on: April 06, 2018, 09:13:09 AM »
Then one by one, in went the trusses, which simply rotated up into place.

I had purchased some truss hangers, but they turned out to be the wrong ones, so instead I ran some long 5/16" lag screws through the top plate which is a doubled 2X4 and into the truss. It sank in a good 3+ inches and when it tightened, really crushed the trusses down.

I may come back with some metal straps, but for now young man, that roof is really on there!
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« Reply #177 on: April 06, 2018, 09:14:28 AM »
Then came the 2X4 lats, overhanging one foot, all around
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« Reply #178 on: April 06, 2018, 09:15:59 AM »
Then it was "Lookin' around time" An important part of any build or construction project
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« Reply #179 on: April 06, 2018, 09:16:42 AM »
Quick question, what did u break on the green tool today?
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« Reply #180 on: April 06, 2018, 09:18:12 AM »
All done with lookin' around, back to the scary part, throwin' up the roof metal. Did I mention, I hate doing this???

ANyway, chose an oiled bronze color. The green roofs I have used elsewhere are not speakin' to me. Can O' paint and they all may change their characteristics!
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« Reply #181 on: April 06, 2018, 09:18:37 AM »
Quick question, what did u break on the green tool today?
Nada!

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« Reply #182 on: April 06, 2018, 09:20:11 AM »
And that was all she wrote. Ma old knees were shot and gettin' into a not-so-bendy-mode, so it was either stay and become a statue perched on the roof for the night, or throw in the towel and go get some Mexican food!

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« Reply #183 on: April 06, 2018, 09:50:00 AM »
MY, how the youngest Pre-Ranger has morphed into a mini-Don!  He appears to have grown a good 6" or more!  Looking good there Chief!
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« Reply #184 on: April 06, 2018, 02:28:18 PM »
Nice work there. I was thinking you may need a crane attachment on the JD or Kubby, but then I remembered you have a LITTLE toy that will lift anything!

I like the grey too. Blends in a little better and doesn't stick out like a sore thumb in the white months.
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« Reply #185 on: April 06, 2018, 05:39:07 PM »
Yup that gray will blend a bit, but  the body, might not blend in so good

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« Reply #186 on: April 07, 2018, 01:35:58 PM »
MY, how the youngest Pre-Ranger has morphed into a mini-Don!  He appears to have grown a good 6" or more!  Looking good there Chief!
That one has just done so well (so has the other one) but this kid if you recall sustained a injury near the end of the football season, but with a lot of tape and the Dr's (And my permission) finished the season all the way to the superbowl game. He did not start but played nearly half of that game.
Then in wrestling season, his first ever, he made it to the regional championships where he was eliminated! (But in his FIRST year!) Then he tried out for the choir, and made it all the way to the middle school and highschool Kentucky state choir! He sang for the governor doing that. Then just this past week in a local talent show the kid sang "Fresh Eyes" by Andy Grammer and made it all the way to the finals. There were 5 standing at the end, no second place, just the best. The music director there felt Chris was the winner or at least second best. Another teacher said He did it better than Andy Grammer. I watched it all spell bound, thinking, "Where did all that come from???!!!)
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« Reply #187 on: April 30, 2018, 09:10:29 PM »
Well we got part of two days in on the project.

First up was to cut the two remaining roof panels and get them screwed down.
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« Reply #188 on: April 30, 2018, 09:11:44 PM »
This would turn out to be a pretty interesting and challenging weekend, but at this point, I had two pre-rangers in there helping (and complaining! ;-)
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« Reply #189 on: April 30, 2018, 09:13:35 PM »
Once we had the panels in, on went the gable end trim pieces and the metal covering. I did not trim them, preferring to cut the pieces while they were in place.
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« Reply #190 on: April 30, 2018, 09:15:20 PM »
Then went the drip rail or whatever you call them...(The boards that you attach the gutters to).
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« Reply #191 on: April 30, 2018, 09:53:12 PM »
 Soffit and facia.  Facia is what you attach the gutter to I think


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« Reply #192 on: April 30, 2018, 09:56:21 PM »
Soffit and facia.  Facia is what you attach the gutter to I think


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« Reply #193 on: May 01, 2018, 01:03:47 AM »
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Mine complain too. I always get, "its not my room" and then I remind they get theirs when she gets hers.
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« Reply #194 on: May 12, 2018, 09:23:40 AM »
Door installed:
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« Reply #195 on: May 12, 2018, 09:24:34 AM »
And front latch, really appearance only, since the main doors lock very securely from the inside
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« Reply #196 on: May 24, 2018, 08:39:54 AM »
Next I added the soffit. I used the vinyl stuff with the standard "J" channel that affixes to the walls with cut to length 12" width soffit pieces
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« Reply #197 on: May 24, 2018, 08:47:40 AM »
Then it was time to add some interior shelving. First I constructed a loft. Here is where the eight foot walls come in handy. If you buy a shed or a shed kit, you often get 6.5 foot walls, not full 8 footers like this one.
The loft is full width and four feet deep. It has joists sitting above your noggin so you won't go bump in the night.
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Re: "12 Square" a 12' X 12' shed project
« Reply #198 on: May 24, 2018, 08:50:07 AM »
The loft is augmented by four built in shelves on either side of the back wall. The left side is for paints and gardening/farming chemicals, and the right side will hold lubricants. I made space for the several 5-gal cans of hydraulic fluid that everyone who owns heavy equipment needs lots of.
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« Reply #199 on: May 24, 2018, 08:51:26 AM »
Although not completely finished, the shed is now uesful as a weathertite storage facility which immediately uncluttered the larger shed/workshop.
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