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Re: LML Duramax build Part 5
« Reply #300 on: April 26, 2018, 10:26:44 AM »
Has that thing been sitting halfway outside the garage like that the whole time, or have you been rolling it in and out everyday?

I was wondering that myself.
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Re: LML Duramax build Part 5
« Reply #301 on: April 26, 2018, 10:49:07 AM »
Has that thing been sitting halfway outside the garage like that the whole time, or have you been rolling it in and out everyday?
Been that way since the beginning

It's too long to fit in and leave any space to work around the front.

Neighbors here just love things like trailers, garage doors open, and torn down trucks protruding into their view.

I was doing OK, but a tornado came by two years ago and took out a few trees that once shrouded me.
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Re: LML Duramax build Part 5
« Reply #302 on: April 26, 2018, 10:49:19 AM »
Has that thing been sitting halfway outside the garage like that the whole time, or have you been rolling it in and out everyday?

Nate, it’s KY they know the mice have to have a nice home too so they just leave the garage doors up all the time in the high rent areas.....  :tongue: I’m sure there is a liberal cause that doing so helps too! You know what’s mine is your’s and all that, community......
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Re: LML Duramax build Part 5
« Reply #303 on: April 26, 2018, 03:17:58 PM »
Just don’t leave anything tasty smelling in the garage overnight or you’ll walk in to an angry raccoon looking at you. When they start growling at you out of nowhere it raises the hackle in your neck.

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Re: LML Duramax build Part 5
« Reply #304 on: April 26, 2018, 04:08:53 PM »
So... figure I would add some advice to the thread -- late as per usual...

Why not pull the front cooling stacks to gain access to the water pump, fan, harmonic balancer, etc?
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Re: LML Duramax build Part 5
« Reply #305 on: April 26, 2018, 05:59:43 PM »
I think you're echoing Nate on that one Ryan, but he's too stubborn to listen to reason... doing it the hard way is like a penance or something :rolleyes:
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Re: LML Duramax build Part 5
« Reply #306 on: April 26, 2018, 06:07:24 PM »
I would definately pull the radiator, and pressure wash it, while I was into it that deep.
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Re: LML Duramax build Part 5
« Reply #307 on: April 26, 2018, 06:29:39 PM »
So... figure I would add some advice to the thread -- late as per usual...

Why not pull the front cooling stacks to gain access to the water pump, fan, harmonic balancer, etc?

Because of the A/C cooler, if he disconnects it then he will have to have his entire A/C system purged and refilled......thats my guess
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Re: LML Duramax build Part 5
« Reply #308 on: April 26, 2018, 06:51:25 PM »
I don’t recall how the tool works exactly, but remove it from the transmission access panel before you try to start the thing. Probably silly even mentioning it, but I feel that would be a nightmare.

I did a water pump on our LB7 we had in 2009, only reason I am vaguely familiar with the tool that stops everything from spinning, and it is for some reason in my truck tool bag still.

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« Reply #309 on: April 26, 2018, 07:13:55 PM »
Good reminder ^^^^
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LML Duramax build Part 5
« Reply #310 on: April 26, 2018, 07:14:51 PM »
Well, yes and no Nate... He already moved the A/C compressor out of the way, so we know the lines are flexible in spots, so the condenser should be able to be moved a bit too to aid in working room.  The condenser is considerably smaller than the radiator and intercooler, and is the front-most item in the stack, so that would gain him 4-5" fore/aft of working room for wiggling the pump in and give him some line of sight on the sides.

Here's a pic of the front end of mine torn apart 2 years ago. I was able to remove the core support without disconnecting any of the A/C lines, thats how much play it has.

Caveat here -- mine is an '06, Don's is an '11, so I don't know what all has changed...

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Re: LML Duramax build Part 5
« Reply #311 on: April 26, 2018, 07:25:21 PM »
Well, yes and no Nate... He already moved the A/C compressor out of the way, so we know the lines are flexible in spots, so the condenser should be able to be moved a bit too to aid in working room.  The condenser is considerably smaller than the radiator and intercooler, and is the front-most item in the stack, so that would gain him 4-5" fore/aft of working room for wiggling the pump in and give him some line of sight on the sides.

Here's a pic of the front end of mine torn apart 2 years ago. I was able to remove the core support without disconnecting any of the A/C lines, thats how much play it has.

Caveat here -- mine is an '06, Don's is an '11, so I don't know what all has changed...



Correct, i was just taking a stab in the dark and hoping i was right....lol
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Re: LML Duramax build Part 5
« Reply #312 on: April 26, 2018, 10:21:43 PM »
On the LML's the radiator is actually welded to the frame, and the other coolers are welded to it, and soldered and glued to the front facia and the fenders.

Very different, these newer trucks!

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SO today was the one I was dreading but I have to say, it was not too bad.

I started with coating everything else I had with the copper spray and even coated one manifold as an experiment to see how well it holds up and if it stays there at all. Like zinc, the self sacrificing metal, just to see
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Re: LML Duramax build Part 5
« Reply #313 on: April 26, 2018, 10:23:01 PM »
I sprayed some of the copper onto the exhaust port flanges on the drivers side same as I did on the passengers
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Re: LML Duramax build Part 5
« Reply #314 on: April 26, 2018, 10:24:42 PM »
I ended up pulling the steering shaft to make some more room and by taking my time, I had the drivers manifold in and tightened within an hour! That really surprised me
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Re: LML Duramax build Part 5
« Reply #315 on: April 26, 2018, 10:26:07 PM »
Next I pulled the old EGR cooler line which is not needed in my application
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Re: LML Duramax build Part 5
« Reply #316 on: April 26, 2018, 10:27:35 PM »
It is retained in the block by a single bolt and seals with a single O ring.

Fleece covers the hole with this nifty plug.
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« Reply #317 on: April 26, 2018, 10:28:38 PM »
I lubed it up, and shoved it home, reinstalling the factory bolt
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Re: LML Duramax build Part 5
« Reply #318 on: April 26, 2018, 10:30:10 PM »
Next came the lower section of the oil drain tube which bolts into the factory location
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« Reply #319 on: April 26, 2018, 10:31:17 PM »
Everything got a liberal coating of anti-seize copper base stuff
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Re: LML Duramax build Part 5
« Reply #320 on: April 26, 2018, 10:33:10 PM »
Then I installed a single stud on each manifold, fitted a gasket, then slid on the up-pipe. I left things loose to ease installation of the turbo stand
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Re: LML Duramax build Part 5
« Reply #321 on: April 26, 2018, 10:34:55 PM »
Next up, I dropped the pedestal in place, then installed the up pipes.

This was so easy compared to stock. It took me maybe 20 minutes to install all six bolts, both gaskets and tighten the whole thing!
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« Reply #322 on: April 26, 2018, 10:37:24 PM »
I reinstalled the transmission dip stick and some things on the sides of the block, but just like that, it was time to drop the turbo onto that pedestal.

There are four studs that it sits on, three of which are easy to get to. The forth is a bot of a problem, but I found that by wiggling in a magnet holding the nut, then placing it onto the stud, I could use a screwdriver to spin the nut a flat at a time, and that got it done.
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« Reply #323 on: April 26, 2018, 10:38:15 PM »
Then just like that, the turbo was bolted into place.
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« Reply #324 on: April 26, 2018, 10:40:00 PM »
Next came the down pipe. Even with all that heat shielding I put on it, the thing just slipped right up into place. I could hold it with one hand and placed the V-band around it and had that thing loosely held down in a new york second.
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« Reply #325 on: April 26, 2018, 10:41:25 PM »
I then placed a V-band clamp around the exhaust system junction and with that snug, went back and tightened the turbo end.
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« Reply #326 on: April 26, 2018, 10:42:39 PM »
Now was a good time to reroute the water lines. This is the setup Alligator supplied with their EGR ditching kit. It will get reconfigured.
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« Reply #327 on: April 26, 2018, 10:43:25 PM »
I took care of the nipple with this short section of hose and the Fleece supplied pipe plug
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« Reply #328 on: April 26, 2018, 10:45:08 PM »
Then I created a new hose with a 5/8" elbow attached to a 5/8 to 1/2" reducer, then a section of 1/2" parker hose covered in an abrasion resistant shield. I taped the shielding on each end.
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« Reply #329 on: April 26, 2018, 10:45:44 PM »
And all that installed like this:
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« Reply #330 on: April 26, 2018, 10:46:46 PM »
Which I think was pretty cool. That did it for the day, now the 8th long day of this project.
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« Reply #331 on: April 26, 2018, 11:27:38 PM »
Coming along nicely
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« Reply #332 on: April 27, 2018, 12:06:09 AM »
Looks good so far. So clean cept the extra copper spray all over.

Question. Thinking of wrapping my up pipes, more for heat than anything else. Or do you guys think another barrier on the firewall is good?
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« Reply #333 on: April 27, 2018, 10:02:30 AM »
Looks good so far. So clean cept the extra copper spray all over.

Question. Thinking of wrapping my up pipes, more for heat than anything else. Or do you guys think another barrier on the firewall is good?
JR, the passenger up pipe is already too close, no extra room for any wrap. Only the drivers side has clearance, and woe be to you should it bind making installation more difficult that the monster it already is going to be with a stock turbo...
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« Reply #334 on: April 27, 2018, 01:27:08 PM »
Debating it is all. I see people do it for faster spoolup but I am looking for less dash heat. Not that it is a problem now so the shield might be a better idea.
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Re: LML Duramax build Part 5
« Reply #335 on: April 27, 2018, 04:23:33 PM »
Quick update tonight...Date night with the prettiest girl in the world, gonna be a big one. Musical, 4-star dining...

So first up, and JR, pay attention, here is the heat shielding I picked up from Summit. I have used this on my Shelby Cobra kit car, on trucks and cars everywhere. Stuff really works to reflect and contain heat
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« Reply #336 on: April 27, 2018, 04:24:25 PM »
Next, I clamped up the turbo drain, completing that part of the turbo install.
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« Reply #337 on: April 27, 2018, 04:26:02 PM »
I found the pigtail that connects to the fuel pump, now the CP3 to be too short, so I had to cut and extend it.
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« Reply #338 on: April 27, 2018, 04:27:42 PM »
Then, in went the Y-Bridge. THe lower nuts and bolts are nearly impossible to reach. I found that by using a powerful magnet I could fish them into their holes or onto the studs, then spin the magnet to get them started...IT WORKED!!!
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« Reply #339 on: April 27, 2018, 04:28:55 PM »
I felt it necessary to protect this water hose against abrasion, so I wrapped it with a cut down rubber hose
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« Reply #340 on: April 27, 2018, 04:30:32 PM »
Next I sourced the front oil rifle and removed the plug to install a fitting from which to run my supply line to the turbo
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« Reply #341 on: April 27, 2018, 04:31:21 PM »
Then I installed the oil supply line and secured and protected it against chaffing
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« Reply #342 on: April 27, 2018, 04:32:25 PM »
Then I went to installing splash and heat shielding in the wheel wells on the side of the engine
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« Reply #343 on: April 27, 2018, 04:34:34 PM »
While I was working on the water pump and forcing it, I heard something snap. While working in the wheel well, I discovered what it was. A plastic crankcase vent, it appears to be bolted to the side of the front cover.

Not wanting to wait or reinstall another weak part, I fashioned up a fix, using a steel line, the same O'ring and sealed it with Epoxy.
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« Reply #344 on: April 27, 2018, 04:35:22 PM »
Then after lubing the mating surface, on went the inlet air scroll.
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« Reply #345 on: April 27, 2018, 04:36:54 PM »
While checking the idlers, sure enough, I had a bad one! I had purchased one just in case, so I sprayed a white stripe on it for reference and installed it, then installed the alternator bracket to which it is attached
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« Reply #346 on: April 27, 2018, 04:38:27 PM »
I wanted to drop on the second alternator, but the passenger side one was just a bit rough looking after its eighth winter, so I cleaned and painted it and will forgo mounting it until it properly dries.
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« Reply #347 on: April 27, 2018, 04:40:05 PM »
First the mount, then the AC compressor, then the belt tensioner went back on
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« Reply #348 on: April 27, 2018, 04:41:31 PM »
First pic is of things not going back on, replaced, or no longer needed

Second pic is of what remains to be reinstalled
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« Reply #349 on: April 27, 2018, 04:43:25 PM »
Here are the broken part, the repaired part, and its location it was removed from

And that right there will do it until I get back on my mighty C-Max
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