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SquareD Part 6 Bumpers, Winches, wiring, lights, assembly
« on: April 09, 2015, 07:50:02 PM »
Now whether part 6 will actually see the finishing of SquareD or simply becomes another lengthy chapter in this ever changing truck build, time will tell.

But with a pseudo end in sight and fast approaching the time when the truck will once again move on its own power along with the fab work that will see an armored front sides and back end along with some other cool things, this is a good point to start a new section.

When we departed part 5, I was painting things, wiring in things and bring it all together. Tonight's installment will continue in that vein
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Being early spring I am having to deal with a lot of this stuff:

The siren keeps going off with severe thunderstorms and tornado warnings. The weather is definitely slowing me down, along with some other stuff

With the emergency broadcast message sounding in the background, this storm was fast approaching and started dropping hail
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2015, 08:00:33 PM »
On to truck stuff.

I had to place a factory order, but Lokar built a 48" transmission filler and dipstick tube all custom like. It will be mounted to the side of the fender making checking and topping fluid easy as eating warm apple pie!
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« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2015, 08:02:04 PM »
It's a perfect time too, since the fender is back off for painting. I think I'll plasti-dip both this and the engine oil dipstick handle
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« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2015, 08:04:27 PM »
Next up I fussed with the left fender for some time. It was a stubborn fit which required me to loosen up the radiator core support again and shim it 1/4" to get the larger than I'd prefer gap to even up top to bottom. I am using that purdy hardware to hold it in place
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2015, 08:06:16 PM »
With that snugged down, the first louver panef was screwed down

Now I'm really undecided here. I elected to just go OD green with everything, but that thing is screaming to become semi-gloss black
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« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2015, 08:08:15 PM »
Back in Part 5 Norm and I were discussing the tire to fender clearance. I had decided to trim it up some to gain clearance. I started out working with a couple fat fingers of clearance
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« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2015, 08:10:02 PM »
Using the bottom of the marker light as a reference I selected some 2" masking tape to serve as a guide. I made the cut on the bottom edge
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« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2015, 08:11:57 PM »
Which vastly improved clearance from that axle which now lives about 1.5" further forward than the stocker did
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« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2015, 08:14:06 PM »
Starting to look like a truck again. Things are lining up somewhat. Not perfect, but "roughed-in" certainly
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« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2015, 08:16:15 PM »
Next I got on the other fender, cutting off the same portion of it as I did on the lefty. Then after some prep, the inside was thoroughly undercoated. It will be ready to paint tomorrow, weather permitting.
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2015, 08:20:59 PM »
I'm probably going to add some tabs to the inside of the right fender to block off part of it so that I can create an air tight compartment to house the air filter which would draw air from only the snorkel and a planned emergency bypass valve

On to the bed area. Wiring is starting to come together here just like in the front. I will require an electrical panel here as well as the one in the cab to run lights, control solar panel charging, run a fuel pump and a few avionics. I was thinking of cutting in a piece of aluminum about here, but am also considering building a piece of "furniture" to act as a desk/bed and store things.
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« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2015, 08:24:36 PM »
But the bed furniture bone is connected to the bed mounted aux fuel tank bone, so I will need to fab up and mount in the fuel tank before I add in anything permanent further back.

So for the first EBDP (End of build day pic), tonight I'll go unconventional and show the left side view. Jap maple is starting to come in so I can't really look in from there or see through the dirty windows!

And looking at the side view with the black fuel ports, can you see where the louver panel might look right at home in flat black?
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« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2015, 09:02:35 PM »
I agree on the black panel.
Just because it's a purpose built truck, doesn't mean you can't show off or accent the 'goodies' that you've added.

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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2015, 09:19:02 PM »
I'm also thinking black on the panel.
Just an observation, is it just the fresh paint vs a probable accumulation of dust, or is the fender a different hue?
Yes the panel needs to be black.
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2015, 09:22:14 PM »
Black panel vote here too!  Creates balance and unity of design (Art teacher stuff)
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2015, 09:26:21 PM »
I second the black for the panels. They are made for access and it matches the theme of the truck.

I trimmed my old 77 front fenders the same way Don. Cut them even with the lower front trim for a wrap around bumper flat all the way around.

You can see it in the pic here and it matched the blackout down the side.
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« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2015, 09:28:22 PM »
BLACK PANELS
Darn Dots, give em a toy,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2015, 10:06:12 AM »
I agree, black panels!
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« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2015, 12:10:12 PM »
OK, OK

The BPS (Black Panel Sect) wins

I'll paint em

On the fender being a different hue?? Funny I thought so myself, but paint came out of the same can

When you look at it from a 90 degree angle it's all purdy and same/same

But, I will need to repaint that fender. the #40 grit scratches and a million little orbital swirls are really showing up. I'll get to that later

And finally, let me ask:

I am considering spraying the lower panes below the break black. Either J Deere Black or come in with the bed liner. Thoughts??
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« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2015, 12:26:38 PM »
Another opinion question:

Stock grill or a home made one like this one on War wagon:
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« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2015, 12:44:41 PM »
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2015, 01:15:40 PM »
I like the stock one more, however, the other one is removable it can double as a grill... so you got a whole new survival aspect covered..  8)
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« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2015, 02:03:27 PM »
Black Black Black......  Paint that thing black...

I vote raptor liner the lower panels.  You know as well as I that those sections see the most rock dings and scratches from lower brush and limbs.  That raptor liner wont show the scratches dents or dings like paint will. 


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« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2015, 02:06:16 PM »
Another opinion question:

Stock grill or a home made one like this one on War wagon:

absolutely love this grille.  Custom built, by you, just like every other piece of this truck.  Throw you a nice shine, then have it chrome dipped!!!!   :o

Ok, maybe not chrome dipped.  Blitz black would sure shine that nice piece up though! 
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« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2015, 02:09:15 PM »
Hey Don, just a far off thought, out of the box really...  Ever debated having any of those parts galvanized?  I know I just dealt with having to price out a bunch of miscellaneous parts for a big project down here and everything had to be galvanized.  There is a large, country wide company that can galvanize anything.  Would paint stick to the galvanized parts though??  Just a thought and figured I would pass it along...

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« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2015, 02:51:14 PM »
Enough out of you Mr. Ash the trouble maker! He won't ever get this thing runnin' if he starts building a grill!

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« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2015, 03:32:53 PM »
I am with bobby on this one.  not only will you have good protection for the cooler stack, but you will also have something to place over the fire and cook with/on.
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« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2015, 06:22:36 PM »
Seems like the people have spoken

One for stocker

and manys for something that looks like that excellent one on the war wagon truck.

Well, thing is, I could mount the AC condenser right back in the front if I went with custom. And bobby is correct, it reduces the armoring up requirement for the front end, as it would double as front end protection from branches and jap car parts.

OK, I'll start on a design

Anyone know anyone who can laser cut a bunch of these vertical uprights out of, say 1/8" for me?
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« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2015, 06:23:56 PM »
Hey Don, just a far off thought, out of the box really...  Ever debated having any of those parts galvanized?  I know I just dealt with having to price out a bunch of miscellaneous parts for a big project down here and everything had to be galvanized.  There is a large, country wide company that can galvanize anything.  Would paint stick to the galvanized parts though??  Just a thought and figured I would pass it along...

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Duane and I have spoken of it. I am staying the course since the truck is now in a pretty advanced state, however the Duane plans to have the entire frame galvanized on his PW crew build!

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« Reply #30 on: April 10, 2015, 07:38:11 PM »
I think the guy that had owned equipment that could chop those out for you has sold it all for another adventure.
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« Reply #31 on: April 11, 2015, 10:05:04 AM »
I agree. Custom grill and sharpen the edges so you can hit a deer at speed and pick up the steaks already cut!
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« Reply #32 on: April 11, 2015, 02:11:34 PM »
Well i vote custom grill for the purpose of protection but keep it simple to fit the theme.
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« Reply #33 on: April 11, 2015, 04:41:47 PM »
I vote custom grill if your OEM one is nice and shiny with no cracks... then you can send it to me LoL

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« Reply #34 on: April 11, 2015, 07:12:21 PM »
I agree. Custom grill and sharpen the edges so you can hit a deer at speed and pick up the steaks already cut!

This made me laugh out loud!
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« Reply #35 on: April 12, 2015, 02:04:35 AM »
Yes, custom grill AK the Warwagon!!

I may just have to do that as the chevys don't like an intercooler with the stock grill.

I mean, if your gonna hit something big bumper or not your not going far with a hole in the rad or IC.
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« Reply #36 on: April 12, 2015, 02:08:16 AM »
What about powder-coating the grill?

I vote undercoating the lower panels, looks good in with any color.
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« Reply #37 on: April 12, 2015, 04:25:35 PM »
Another opinion question:

Stock grill or a home made one like this one on War wagon:

If you never intend on working on your truck then you can go the war wagon route.  I would run the stock grill and make a bumper to protect the front of the truck.  the War wagon unit looks cool but the first time you run into something (it will happen) you will not be a happy camper, the fenders, radiator, intercooler, AC system will take the brunt of the hit  (deer, Elk, Moose, rock that runs out in front of you).  keep it simple so you can work on the truck and protect the systems to keep you moving. this is just IMO!

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« Reply #38 on: April 12, 2015, 07:39:26 PM »
Another opinion question:

Stock grill or a home made one like this one on War wagon:

If you never intend on working on your truck then you can go the war wagon route.  I would run the stock grill and make a bumper to protect the front of the truck.  the War wagon unit looks cool but the first time you run into something (it will happen) you will not be a happy camper, the fenders, radiator, intercooler, AC system will take the brunt of the hit  (deer, Elk, Moose, rock that runs out in front of you).  keep it simple so you can work on the truck and protect the systems to keep you moving. this is just IMO!

Well, if I went custom, it would be integrated into the frontal impact/ramming structure/system. I mean that thing would only be deflecting parts that get through what I plan to go in front of it. And I plan to construct a bumper system that pushes stuff down and away from the expensive parts.

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The grill I have is OK, not great. Has some chrome blisters, but if I don't use it, you'd be welcome to it. Be cool to have parts from other trucks and sharing mine as well throughout the community...
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« Reply #39 on: April 13, 2015, 03:03:56 PM »
Hey Don, just a far off thought, out of the box really...  Ever debated having any of those parts galvanized?  I know I just dealt with having to price out a bunch of miscellaneous parts for a big project down here and everything had to be galvanized.  There is a large, country wide company that can galvanize anything.  Would paint stick to the galvanized parts though??  Just a thought and figured I would pass it along...

Ash,

Duane and I have spoken of it. I am staying the course since the truck is now in a pretty advanced state, however the Duane plans to have the entire frame galvanized on his PW crew build!

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« Reply #40 on: April 13, 2015, 08:36:38 PM »
Ash, feel free to suggest away, Can't hurt!

OK tonight's update is all about body work so if you aren't interested in that, just click over and read something else. If you like it, you'll be enthralled!

OK out of the chock blocks, I painted that first access panel black cause everyone wanted it so:
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« Reply #41 on: April 13, 2015, 08:38:12 PM »
Then I had, like way-too-big washers holding on the fuel and water filler ports so I removed that stuff and installed the correct size washers (smaller)
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« Reply #42 on: April 13, 2015, 08:38:54 PM »
All of that changed up the look of that side somewhat
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« Reply #43 on: April 13, 2015, 08:40:43 PM »
I planned to get the aft electrical panel built today but the body work kept going on and on and I ran out of time. Here's the solar panel controller and a 400W inverter to power AC things
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« Reply #44 on: April 13, 2015, 08:43:10 PM »
I finished Dr. Yeng's fender company factory installed dent repair on the snorkel fender and that puts that dude on short final (pilot talk) for a green paint job
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« Reply #45 on: April 13, 2015, 08:46:00 PM »
I spotted the bare metal with acid etching primer
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« Reply #46 on: April 13, 2015, 08:46:52 PM »
Next up was the hood. For some silly reason, I was thinking I only had to scratch it down a bit, then paint it...But I forgot about a dent it acquired along the way somewhere

Here it gets its first skimming of body filler
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« Reply #47 on: April 13, 2015, 08:50:03 PM »
Red dog in the background waiting me out to snag a tasty tool!

Working plastic body filler requires TTM (Time, Tools, and Muscle) along with a good touch to feel for flatness and a discerning eye

Once the material starts setting up it's best to take an aggressive specialty file and level it somewhat to reduce sanding time
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« Reply #48 on: April 13, 2015, 08:53:22 PM »
File first, then back off and allow the stuff to fully set up. Then start sanding with 60 grit and a long flat board. You will find the high and low spots through rubbing your hand over the area and observing the sanding pattern. When you start to sand through the primer into the parent metal, you either have a high spot, or a low spot right after it.

I got door #2, so I needed another skim coat
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« Reply #49 on: April 13, 2015, 08:56:08 PM »
I mix up a lot and always have plenty left over. I like to smear some of it on the inside of the boys jeans and socks and on the red dog when I can catch her!

Makes life more sporting for everyone concerned!

After working that layer down, I still had a bit of a low area so I skimmed that area as well
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