Author Topic: '69 Mustang (Read 6587 times)

Sammconn · « **on:** May 21, 2017, 12:54:46 PM »

So a number of years ago I picked up this '69 Mustang.
My dad was shocked, as I'm Bowtie to the core.
I splained to him I had a list of cars, not all Chevys, that given the opportunity I would buy.

So that was 2011-12, not real sure.
I know very little about it, save for 351W, auto, originally red-ish.
Previous owner, second I believe, had his father start some restoration.
Some panels replaced, some bondo applied, and this blue shot to help preserve it.

It's been sitting in a storage yard for about 10-12 years now.
He drove it here to park it, so it was in running order...
Not sure what happened in the past 12 months, but the ground got soft.
Real soft.

Fast foreword to today.
'They' are cleaning up.
Everything must go.

My plan is to jack it out of the mud and see if it runs.
The motor turned by hand so I have hope.
More to come as the day goes on.

My plan is to jack it up and get it running...

It is sitting on the frame and floor right now.

Some motor porn, look at all the open space!

Owners manual and original bill of sale!
I was a bit surprised to find these.

wyorunner · « **Reply #1 on:** May 21, 2017, 01:12:59 PM »

What's the story of the powewagon in the background? That would be an awesome truck! Did it get scrapped or is there another buyer taking it home. Load it up with the mustang!

Oh and awesome find on the car and how does it appear so rustfree. I would think just sitting in the wet stuff as much as you get would cause to to crumble. sorry for the start of a DOT!

Sammconn · « **Reply #2 on:** May 21, 2017, 02:31:39 PM »

Quote from: wyorunner on May 21, 2017, 01:12:59 PM

What's the story of the powewagon in the background? That would be an awesome truck! Did it get scrapped or is there another buyer taking it home. Load it up with the mustang!

Oh and awesome find on the car and how does it appear so rustfree. I would think just sitting in the wet stuff as much as you get would cause to to crumble. sorry for the start of a DOT!

The power wagon isn't for sale...
The owner has been offered 10k for it.
It drove here as well in the early to mid 90's.

The car isn't rust free.
The floor pan is almost rotted out.
It was some lipstick put on it to preserve it.
It worked.

And there isn't anything other than DOT that could be expected.

wyorunner · « **Reply #3 on:** May 21, 2017, 02:36:15 PM »

I can understand the owner not wanting to sell the Power wagon. Especially if it was driven there in the 90s! With a decent amount of love he could drive it again! Still awesome!

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Sammconn · « **Reply #4 on:** May 21, 2017, 02:44:43 PM »

So back on topic.
Got it jacked out of the mud.
This process four corners.

Added a redneck gas tank, as the lack of gas cap leads me to believe it is a good idea.

Gave it an ounce or two of primer gas in the carb.
Turned the key and it fired!

A few of those and it was running...sort of.
But pouring fuel out of the overflows.
Like half a gallon real quick like.

So off with the carb to fix the stuck needle and float.

Put it all back together and the fuel leak is gone.
Unfortunately it won't idle. I suspect there is gunk everywhere inside it.
I may throw it in the ultrasonic cleaner and see how that works.

Sammconn · « **Reply #5 on:** May 21, 2017, 02:45:33 PM »

Quote from: wyorunner on May 21, 2017, 02:36:15 PM

I can understand the owner not wanting to sell the Power wagon. Especially if it was driven there in the 90s! With a decent amount of love he could drive it again! Still awesome!

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I suspect it wouldn't take much.
These old girls just spring right back it seems.

Sammconn · « **Reply #6 on:** May 21, 2017, 02:49:14 PM »

I tried my luck at if the trans was working.
Put it in drive while feathering the gas pedal to keep it alive.
It runs, but only off of the accelerator pump gas.

It made an ugly clunk and spun the tires out.
Back in a hole...
But I have a winch, and used it.
Got it a couple feet out of he wheel holes and then drove it ahead 15 odd feet.
So it sort of works.

Now to get it running better.
I've still got a couple weeks to get it out of here, but time is of the essence for me.
I'll likely see what I can do today, as I'm on it already, and there's a yard sale at my house today...

Sammconn · « **Reply #7 on:** May 21, 2017, 02:51:41 PM »

Oh, and now that I can see under it better, it's a lot more rust free than I thought.
Might not need a new floor actually.

Get it running first and on he trailer.
Then I need to empty out and inventory the parts that currently fill all but he drivers seat.

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #8 on:** May 21, 2017, 03:45:22 PM »

Sweet. Nice find

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Sammconn · « **Reply #9 on:** May 21, 2017, 03:47:07 PM »

So being the yard sale is still ongoing, the carb is in the ultrasonic tank at work.
We'll see how it looks in 30 mins.
Unfortunately the heat was off, so it may take longer than I'd like.

Pics to follow on reassembly.

Sammconn · « **Reply #10 on:** May 21, 2017, 08:11:14 PM »

Here it is cooking away.
He water was new when it went in...
Yeah it was bad.

Out of the tank and dried up. Much cleaner.
The ports are even open now.

Going back together.

Back together.

So I put it back on the car.
It will run now, but probably around 1100-1200 rpm.
I had to manually put it on the high idle step.
Then it ran...albeit really rough.
My video didn't upload right so I'll have to try it again.

Tomorrow, too up trans, power steering, try to find some brakes and go for a little toot.

Nate · « **Reply #11 on:** May 21, 2017, 10:25:24 PM »

sweet

wyorunner · « **Reply #12 on:** May 21, 2017, 10:42:30 PM »

So did you get it home then? Or are you still working in the lot where you found it?

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Sammconn · « **Reply #13 on:** May 21, 2017, 10:45:03 PM »

It's still in he storage yard.
Hopefully tomorrow I get it on the trailer and bring it home.
It's low on trans oil, so I didn't want to move it too much.
It has no brakes, almost ran into the truck when I pulled it foreword.

Those two items on agenda tomorrow.
And maybe a bit of a burn, then load it up and bring it home.

Video finally loaded properly.

wyorunner · « **Reply #14 on:** May 21, 2017, 10:46:40 PM »

Well you do have a winch, so manually loading it was what I was thinking. Driving it on is much betterer!

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JR · « **Reply #15 on:** May 21, 2017, 10:53:00 PM »

Great find, and it runs with paperwork! Just and FYI. I fixed one that sheared the pin in the dist drive. At least it was in front.

Looks like a goat and a Vacation ford there too.

Sammconn · « **Reply #16 on:** May 21, 2017, 10:57:53 PM »

There's a lot of things that could be making it run so rough.
The carb has now been eliminated.
I'm going to get to dig out my timing light!
Haven't used it since I was 16 or 17.
Definitely thinking timing could be a part of it.
But time will tell.

I'm hoping to drive it onto the trailer, but worst case it will be winched.

JR · « **Reply #17 on:** May 21, 2017, 11:04:19 PM »

Sure a tune up is coming, just no fluid changes!!!

KensAuto · « **Reply #18 on:** May 22, 2017, 01:26:55 PM »

Hey Sam, did you blow out that venturi real good, the one that has a single bolt for the accelerator passage. The 2 tubes that stick down can be a bugger to clean sometimes. My second guess would be burnt points (if it has them).

EL TATE · « **Reply #19 on:** May 22, 2017, 01:31:49 PM »

From the sounds in the video points and dwell were on my thought list as well as my wagoneer acted like that when they were out of adjustment and/or burnt. don't know much about carbs, but Ken is usually right so...

Sammconn · « **Reply #20 on:** May 22, 2017, 05:19:26 PM »

Ken, I had it all apart in the ultrasonic for a couple hours.
I blew he Venturi tubes and they were clear.
Carb is now sound, other than it needs new gaskets and seals from me shaggin with it.

It is burning a ton of gas though.
I think the needles are way out to lunch.
I put them back where the were, four turns...and that has me wondering.

I can see gas flowing out of the Venturi as well so it's way too rich.

I suspect points are an issue as well, it will get some form of a tune up, but certainly not an 'Oil Change' as one of our fine members does.

Sammconn · « **Reply #21 on:** May 22, 2017, 05:22:00 PM »

Oh yeah, almost forgot, it loaded itself onto the trailer without issue...
Other Han stalling out a few times.

A quart of trans oil helped a ton in forward, still lacking power in reverse tho.

I need to decide if I'm keeping or selling.
That will determine my course of action in he big picture.

Little picture is to get it running and driving proper.

EL TATE · « **Reply #22 on:** May 22, 2017, 06:00:07 PM »

Loving the gas tank

Sammconn · « **Reply #23 on:** May 22, 2017, 06:28:12 PM »

Simple, effective, and proved the fuel pump is good.
Oh, and didn't bring the water, dirt, and whatever is in the one at the back...

And no need for a gauge, you can see the level. Lol.

South_GA_redneck · « **Reply #24 on:** May 22, 2017, 09:18:26 PM »

Nice find! My brother in law has one nearly identical that's been stored inside 20+ years, I've been working on him the last year or two to sell me that car.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #25 on:** May 23, 2017, 08:53:31 AM »

Sam

Don't beat me about the head and shoulders

Sell it

To some knucklehead

Who doesn't realize

That he is actually $20+K away from a decent (not a great) restoration

I did one...

1970 Boss 302

Back in 1990 when I did it, thing cost me around $15K to complete

Sell it...Spend $$$ on island home and save for replacement truck

Don't buy replacement truck until you have 1/2 to 3/4 of the cost in cash...

Just me...your call of course

Sammconn · « **Reply #26 on:** May 23, 2017, 09:20:21 AM »

Don, I'm totally leaning that way.

I see two courses of action.
First, inventory it to see if it's all here and sell as is.

Second, put a k or two in it, few hundred in tune up, miscellaneous little things (bad bodywork type things) shoot fresh paint. Lipstick on a pig type stuff. This might net gain it in the end.

I'm well aware of the $$$ commitment to do it right.
It was one of a few on my list that given the opportunity I would buy.
So I need to walk the road of do I want it enough for the poor investment it inevitably will be, or walk away from it.

I am bowtie to the core, so that plays on me as well.

Atkinsmatt · « **Reply #27 on:** May 23, 2017, 09:45:59 AM »

Bow tie guy as well. However there are a couple of vehicles that would be on the list if available. Like the late 60's mustang, a 66 Bronco, a IH Scout II...

Sammconn · « **Reply #28 on:** May 23, 2017, 10:53:28 AM »

Quote from: Atkinsmatt on May 23, 2017, 09:45:59 AM

Bow tie guy as well. However there are a couple of vehicles that would be on the list if available. Like the late 60's mustang, a 66 Bronco, a IH Scout II...

Yeah, late 60's mustang, hemi cuda, then the standards.
Late 69's stingray, 442, 68-69 Camaro/Firebird, early novas, etc.

JR · « **Reply #29 on:** May 23, 2017, 11:19:18 AM »

Well, besides being a Bowtie guy as well.

Unless you really want to restore it and show it and have a passion for that car, sell it.

It has paperwork, that adds A LOT to the value.

I would see what they sell for and toss all the info in a hat on how much you want THAT car.

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #30 on:** May 23, 2017, 11:29:21 AM »

Find an L88 69 convertible vett and never look back. Just imho

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Sammconn · « **Reply #31 on:** May 23, 2017, 12:00:10 PM »

Quote from: TexasRedNeck on May 23, 2017, 11:29:21 AM

Find an L88 69 convertible vett and never look back. Just imho

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I WISH!
100% spot on there Charles.
Unicorn hunting anyone?
To find one that doesn't break the global bank anyway.

JR · « **Reply #32 on:** May 23, 2017, 12:13:34 PM »

Well, just look in lots of barns up there!!

rpar86 · « **Reply #33 on:** May 23, 2017, 06:14:51 PM »

That gas tank is Pinto-esque ;)

Sammconn · « **Reply #34 on:** May 23, 2017, 06:58:32 PM »

Quote from: rpar86 on May 23, 2017, 06:14:51 PM

That gas tank is Pinto-esque ;)

Not quite, but solely based on location.

rpar86 · « **Reply #35 on:** May 23, 2017, 07:32:50 PM »

Hit something, go boom. That's what I was thinking of.

JR · « **Reply #36 on:** May 23, 2017, 08:18:52 PM »

Well, I learned in a Pinto wagon and I was not easy on it.

I did blow a trans though.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #37 on:** May 24, 2017, 09:49:49 AM »

Quote from: Atkinsmatt on May 23, 2017, 09:45:59 AM

Bow tie guy as well. However there are a couple of vehicles that would be on the list if available. Like the late 60's mustang, a 66 Bronco, a IH Scout II...

IH Scout II ! Sign me up!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #38 on:** May 24, 2017, 09:52:44 AM »

Quote from: Sammconn on May 23, 2017, 10:53:28 AM

Quote from: Atkinsmatt on May 23, 2017, 09:45:59 AM
Bow tie guy as well. However there are a couple of vehicles that would be on the list if available. Like the late 60's mustang, a 66 Bronco, a IH Scout II...
Yeah, late 60's mustang, hemi cuda, then the standards.
Late 69's stingray, 442, 68-69 Camaro/Firebird, early novas, etc.

Sam,

I once owned a 1969 Corvette Stingray, 427 4 speed with 4.11 gears. It was a bit of a pig...Not as fast as you may think, and handling was not good at all. But, stab the throttle and you were in tire smoke city!

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #39 on:** May 24, 2017, 10:15:44 PM »

4:11 with a 26 inch tire....no bueno

swbhobie16 · « **Reply #40 on:** May 31, 2017, 11:46:05 PM »

Quote from: Flyin6 on May 24, 2017, 09:49:49 AM

Quote from: Atkinsmatt on May 23, 2017, 09:45:59 AM
Bow tie guy as well. However there are a couple of vehicles that would be on the list if available. Like the late 60's mustang, a 66 Bronco, a IH Scout II...
IH Scout II ! Sign me up!

how's this for an IH Scout II shot?

friend of mine and his son are on a semi cross country trek for the sons HS graduation present in his built 79 scout. '05 bow tie drivetrain (w/dana 300 tcase) built 44s. recaro seats. fuel rims wrapped in G2s. thing rides/drives like silverado. it's awesome. can't wait to hear all about it once they return.

Sammconn · « **Reply #41 on:** June 01, 2017, 09:15:42 AM »

That's a beauty.
Both the whole pic, as well as the scout.