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I actually met a former member in Tijuana when I was training the JC Whitney call center there. He was a good man, (hence former member), but he had served time, been deported, and was working to gain legitimate citizenship and return to the US. He said that he has to move quietly because there are still people looking for him and I could see why. With all the facial tattoos it was clear that he was not just some flunky. Funny, but among all the people there I was working with, I initially had the most concern about him but left there feeling like around him I was untouchable. everyone else gave him a wide berth but me being ignorant just walked right up to him and introduced myself. then I saw the MS13 tats and had to very carefully chose the rest of my wording. A very unique experience to say the least, but it didn't change the facts about the group and their tactics or purpose, and I worry about this organization locally more than any other. Had no idea there was Gvt. training involved with these guys, but makes more and more sense as I go back and look at news accounts of their dealings. Scary stuff.