Author Topic: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4 (Read 52720 times)

KensAuto · « **Reply #300 on:** February 26, 2020, 01:54:50 PM »

Nice!!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #301 on:** February 26, 2020, 01:56:42 PM »

I am noticing a pattern of "Little things matter" with these guys and this shop.

Note that Nick has developed a system that is efficient, where he orders all the parts and awaits their arrival. He will begin only after getting everything he needs. That's smart

Notice the sticky paper on the fender to prevent the always occuring scratching: Attention to detail, and caring for customers vehicle.

While we talked Preston continued to bolt things up. I noticed his attention to detail while he worked. He would install a bolt or group of bolts, then run them down with the electric impact, but only until they were mostly screwed in. Then he would switch to a ratchet to apply the final tightening to the fastener. This is something that involves an extra step to every procedure a he could save time by just using the electric impact to finish, but he prefers to "Feel" the bolt come up to proper tightness. That's attention to detail, extra care, and shows a guy who is more of a professional and less of a "git er dun" kind of person.

I like what I see so far.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #302 on:** February 26, 2020, 01:57:33 PM »

A different angle on the install

Flyin6 · « **Reply #303 on:** February 26, 2020, 01:58:49 PM »

Nick said it will be off this lift and running by Friday, then he will move it to the 4-post lift to install the fuel pumps/harness

Flyin6 · « **Reply #304 on:** February 26, 2020, 01:59:59 PM »

Here is my new air intake tube. He plans to powder coat it the same color as the burb paint.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #305 on:** February 26, 2020, 02:01:27 PM »

Some shots from around the shop:

Yes, that is a LS transplanted Volvo!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #306 on:** February 26, 2020, 02:02:55 PM »

Personally, that lowered hotrod is hideous. Now, having said that, it is artfully created. Owned by a local artist, it is a rolling statement to true talent and is sitting on a great chassis and suspension.

EL TATE · « **Reply #307 on:** February 26, 2020, 02:15:48 PM »

Quote from: Flyin6 on February 26, 2020, 02:02:55 PM

Personally, that lowered hotrod is hideous. Now, having said that, it is artfully created. Owned by a local artist, it is a rolling statement to true talent and is sitting on a great chassis and suspension.

I'm not a fan of the rat-rod hype either Don, but it does look really well put together that being said.

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #308 on:** February 26, 2020, 03:06:54 PM »

I’m drooling over the 68 Camero

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Nskaats · « **Reply #309 on:** February 26, 2020, 03:35:46 PM »

I guess the Friday plan got pushed back. I have ONE quick connect fuel line fitting that was scheduled for delivery Friday and changed to Monday. Ain't that how it always goes? Thanks FedEx!

swbhobie16 · « **Reply #310 on:** February 26, 2020, 05:42:17 PM »

Quote from: Nskaats on February 26, 2020, 03:35:46 PM

I guess the Friday plan got pushed back. I have ONE quick connect fuel line fitting that was scheduled for delivery Friday and changed to Monday. Ain't that how it always goes? Thanks FedEx!

if that’s the only hiccup.. id chalk that up to a win. besides. getting a build done on a single calendar page is something just unheard of here.

KensAuto · « **Reply #311 on:** February 26, 2020, 05:58:47 PM »

Quote from: Nskaats on February 26, 2020, 03:35:46 PM

I guess the Friday plan got pushed back. I have ONE quick connect fuel line fitting that was scheduled for delivery Friday and changed to Monday. Ain't that how it always goes? Thanks FedEx!

I'd consider that pretty good considering having that old man leaning over your shoulder all week.

Sorry Don.

dave945 · « **Reply #312 on:** February 26, 2020, 06:45:10 PM »

He’s not leaning over him, that’s just the way he stands these days. ;)

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Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #313 on:** February 26, 2020, 08:47:25 PM »

I think that’s why nick has set his pace, sooner it’s done the sooner it’s gone.

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Flyin6 · « **Reply #314 on:** February 26, 2020, 08:59:53 PM »

Quote from: TexasRedNeck on February 26, 2020, 03:06:54 PM

I’m drooling over the 68 Camero

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Flyin6 · « **Reply #315 on:** February 26, 2020, 09:01:41 PM »

Quote from: EL TATE on February 26, 2020, 02:15:48 PM

Quote from: Flyin6 on February 26, 2020, 02:02:55 PM
Personally, that lowered hotrod is hideous. Now, having said that, it is artfully created. Owned by a local artist, it is a rolling statement to true talent and is sitting on a great chassis and suspension.

I'm not a fan of the rat-rod hype either Don, but it does look really well put together that being said.

I'll take some detail shots of it next time I'm there. Things like the hammered copper floor, spider web intake, and other things give it that oddball appeal

JR · « **Reply #316 on:** February 26, 2020, 09:39:09 PM »

68 or 69, I don't really like dragsters. Street cars are sweet though.

stlaser · « **Reply #317 on:** February 26, 2020, 11:34:29 PM »

Flyin6 · « **Reply #318 on:** February 28, 2020, 09:06:16 PM »

Radiator coming back out. After looking at it carefully, and thinking it was original, I decided to install a brand new one.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #319 on:** February 28, 2020, 09:07:46 PM »

Supercharger heat exchanger stacked in between the radiator and the condensor

Flyin6 · « **Reply #320 on:** February 28, 2020, 09:09:05 PM »

The spaced the stack forward with the aluminum angle which also served to provide a mount to hang the new SC heat exchanger

Flyin6 · « **Reply #321 on:** February 28, 2020, 09:10:05 PM »

Blurry pic of the new boost referenced fuel pressure regulator

Flyin6 · « **Reply #322 on:** February 28, 2020, 09:11:59 PM »

Several more things are installed here as Preston nears the buttoning up of the underhood work

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #323 on:** March 03, 2020, 09:25:21 AM »

Monday has come, how did the dyno go ?

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Flyin6 · « **Reply #324 on:** March 03, 2020, 12:30:00 PM »

So to recap the progress. Last Friday a needed fuel fitting did not come in. That was necessary just to start the truck to be able to move it over to a different 4-post lift which is where the fuel tank would be dropped and the pumps and system would be installed. Well, that happened monday. Currently the fuel system is just about done and Nick was working on fabbing up the air intake tube which relocates the air filter to where the battery used to be.

Not far away, he just about has this thing wrapped up

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #325 on:** March 03, 2020, 01:13:27 PM »

What did he do on the knock sensors?

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Nskaats · « **Reply #326 on:** March 03, 2020, 07:37:22 PM »

She lives! Truck started up today and heat cycled. Should be a video on our facebook page shortly. Battery seems like it's struggling to start it though, so may need to address that one.

Next on the list is getting it onto the other lift to drop the tank and do the fuel pumps and wiring harness. Intake tube was fabricated today and went across the street to powder coat. We'll need to find a longer throttle cable and air filter as well.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #327 on:** March 03, 2020, 09:37:54 PM »

And I need to make a correction.

I thought the fuel pump thing was done, but apparently not, so I stand corrected.

Battery: It is only maybe two months old if that. Something is draining it, perhaps that new amp or sub woofer I wired in. Not sure if those things stay on or cycle with the ignition switch. The old battery, which was new too, would die in just a few days, and I replaced it, but now the same sort of thing seems to point to some sort of small load constantly draining the battery...

Flyin6 · « **Reply #328 on:** March 03, 2020, 09:42:23 PM »

First start:

https://www.facebook.com/skaatsprecision/videos/651002325471359/

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #329 on:** March 03, 2020, 10:21:19 PM »

That’s as far as the dodge made it, keep going you can complete it!!

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KensAuto · « **Reply #330 on:** March 03, 2020, 10:24:22 PM »

You might be able to go on vacation this year!!

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #331 on:** March 04, 2020, 08:26:04 AM »

That’s a big step forward.

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Nskaats · « **Reply #332 on:** March 04, 2020, 08:36:54 AM »

Quote from: Flyin6 on March 03, 2020, 09:37:54 PM

And I need to make a correction.

I thought the fuel pump thing was done, but apparently not, so I stand corrected.

Battery: It is only maybe two months old if that. Something is draining it, perhaps that new amp or sub woofer I wired in. Not sure if those things stay on or cycle with the ignition switch. The old battery, which was new too, would die in just a few days, and I replaced it, but now the same sort of thing seems to point to some sort of small load constantly draining the battery...

I had the battery on charger all night and it's showing a full charge, but no power anywhere. I'm leaning toward one of your main fuses or relay up front.

EL TATE · « **Reply #333 on:** March 04, 2020, 10:17:39 AM »

Quote from: Nskaats on March 04, 2020, 08:36:54 AM

Quote from: Flyin6 on March 03, 2020, 09:37:54 PM
And I need to make a correction.

I thought the fuel pump thing was done, but apparently not, so I stand corrected.

Battery: It is only maybe two months old if that. Something is draining it, perhaps that new amp or sub woofer I wired in. Not sure if those things stay on or cycle with the ignition switch. The old battery, which was new too, would die in just a few days, and I replaced it, but now the same sort of thing seems to point to some sort of small load constantly draining the battery...

I had the battery on charger all night and it's showing a full charge, but no power anywhere. I'm leaning toward one of your main fuses or relay up front.

Nick,

take a look at the air ride suspension fuse if it has one. if it's been deleted and the fuse is still in the block it'll pull when the level sensor engages, thinking it needs to engage the compressor, or lack thereof. When I went through my engine swap on the 04 I chased battery draw for a solid week until I discovered that little gem.

Also, if this had the factory Bose system, that amp is relatively complicated and linked in with the main GPS and other systems than just sound. could just be tied into something that's not keyed power. just my $0.02

Nskaats · « **Reply #334 on:** March 04, 2020, 06:42:56 PM »

Quote from: EL TATE on March 04, 2020, 10:17:39 AM

Nick,

take a look at the air ride suspension fuse if it has one. if it's been deleted and the fuse is still in the block it'll pull when the level sensor engages, thinking it needs to engage the compressor, or lack thereof. When I went through my engine swap on the 04 I chased battery draw for a solid week until I discovered that little gem.

Also, if this had the factory Bose system, that amp is relatively complicated and linked in with the main GPS and other systems than just sound. could just be tied into something that's not keyed power. just my $0.02

Good info to have on the air ride. I never thought of that. Of the billions of trucks we've had in here, I can't remember ever having one other than mine with the AutoRide and it's still intact....for now.

JR · « **Reply #335 on:** March 04, 2020, 06:50:41 PM »

I think Don has a big junction box/isolator in there too.

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #336 on:** March 04, 2020, 07:17:30 PM »

Don’t forget the wooden fuse block distribution block

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Flyin6 · « **Reply #337 on:** March 05, 2020, 08:29:34 AM »

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on March 04, 2020, 07:17:30 PM

Don’t forget the wooden fuse block distribution block

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If wood works for welding tables, it'll work for fuses and other hot things 8-0

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #338 on:** March 05, 2020, 09:22:42 AM »

Well if it’s been a proven method I guess we can look past it ;)

Looking forward to an excuse to go back to Moab this summer. Let’s all make it happen

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Flyin6 · « **Reply #339 on:** March 05, 2020, 12:51:36 PM »

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on March 05, 2020, 09:22:42 AM

Well if it’s been a proven method I guess we can look past it ;)

Looking forward to an excuse to go back to Moab this summer. Let’s all make it happen

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Well, if all goes as planned we are pulling pitch from here the last of May and will see South Dakota, Wyoming, and likely Utah probably late the second week in June I'd guess.

Oh, and stopped over the shop for a quick look this morning. The fuel tank is out and parts prepositioned for the swap around. Nick was about to do the swap when I was there, but someone was chewing off his ear. I have seen this before...same person. I recall, that's what I hated about being in business. Same people come around to be friends that you don't need. (Thinking: Get a life). Anyway, he thinks the throttle cable (It needs a longer one) will be the only holdup after the fuel system mod

KensAuto · « **Reply #340 on:** March 05, 2020, 08:15:37 PM »

Truer words have never been spoken. Sad part is I'm starting to enjoy the distractions. Any excuse to keep my hands clean!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #341 on:** March 06, 2020, 01:48:06 PM »

The big boy on Nick's 4-post

Flyin6 · « **Reply #342 on:** March 06, 2020, 01:49:28 PM »

Wiring harness with relays, the dual fuel pumps and a not so large fuel tank

JR · « **Reply #343 on:** March 06, 2020, 02:21:20 PM »

close,,,,,,,,,

Flyin6 · « **Reply #344 on:** March 06, 2020, 09:11:10 PM »

Quote from: JR on March 06, 2020, 02:21:20 PM

close,,,,,,,,,

:-)

Flyin6 · « **Reply #345 on:** March 11, 2020, 04:53:59 PM »

Update: Nick said that he had a idle problem sorted out. Some variable in some fuel table which didn't need to be messed with had been changed by the previous tuner which was causing the erratic idle. Once that was changed back Nick said that it was idling very smoothly. I guess that's a good thing, although I wanted a bit of a cam lope. But running correctly trumps any other factors.

I do not think it has seen the chassis dyno yet.

He said that the E85 sensor was working, so that cat is in the bag as well.

Ken will be disappointed to hear that the factory radiator was replaced with a new one from somebody. I did not look to see if it had the factory petcock drain...

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #346 on:** March 11, 2020, 05:11:36 PM »

lets just hope this is not the result on the dyno

https://youtu.be/RUquK_6WIjk?t=13

Flyin6 · « **Reply #347 on:** March 11, 2020, 05:22:59 PM »

Texting with Nick

He says it IS stuck in 4wd :-((

So much for a clean pump rub fix!!!

He also sez it's pretty peppy

Difficult to convert dyno numbers to actual. He says that tire weight and the mass of the D80 skew number a bunch. He was trying to calculate the difference between mine and stock, but D80 will remain an unknown.

Translation: Dyno numbers will not be relative to real world. He will just look for improving numbas, not compare to other engines. He did say a stock LQ4 was around 300 crank and 220-230 rear wheel. I told him I needed at least 125 rear wheel 8-0

KensAuto · « **Reply #348 on:** March 12, 2020, 10:32:10 AM »

Do you think it's been in 4wd this whole time? Maybe that's one (smaller) factor that was causing it to be doggie?

EL TATE · « **Reply #349 on:** March 12, 2020, 10:43:13 AM »

Quote from: KensAuto on March 12, 2020, 10:32:10 AM

Do you think it's been in 4wd this whole time? Maybe that's one (smaller) factor that was causing it to be doggie?

Beat me to it.