Author Topic: Hide/bugout site build thread Part 1 (Read 193366 times)

cj7ox · « **Reply #750 on:** March 08, 2016, 10:22:05 AM »

Looking good, Big D!

stlaser · « **Reply #751 on:** March 08, 2016, 10:34:50 AM »

Good deal, ideally they would have notched the top of the post for the exterior 2x12 to sit in the notch. I understand their is a budget however, lags should be good. The second floor weight will all be riding down on top of the posts at least 2/3 of the wall will be anyhow. So really all your supporting is the first floor span between the posts on those out 2x12's at 8' is fairly strong. I would say if you still have any concerns after its built go to HD & pickup some joist hangers (formed metal straps) then teach the pre rangers how to crawl under said building & use a screw gun. Two birds with one stone if you will...... ;)

Quote from: Flyin6 on March 08, 2016, 07:34:19 AM

Quote from: stlaser on March 07, 2016, 09:18:40 PM
I'm honestly a little disappointed in the builder. He seems to do everything pretty heavy duty then to only nail the joists? Although from reading Dons thread it appears they don't normally use these posts but just sit them on blocks so for the benefit of the doubt maybe a learning curve there for them. Or the employees didn't ask & went rogue as they sometimes do.....
I think that is it. He builds sheds on skids normally. He has built over 20,000! This is a bit out of the norm for him. However Mike builds nice stuff, has for decades and is known to stand behind his work..

I texted Mike about your concerns. He just replied, Lag bolts are going in today!

On the single band board...Ya know, again, I am no engineer, however a 2 X 12 supported every eight feet is pretty stout. Looking at the foundation of my and other houses, yea, I see doubled up lumber but those are 2 X 10's, right?

JR · « **Reply #752 on:** March 08, 2016, 10:53:15 AM »

As good as it looks and with thicker lumber it screams for screws and bolts. For basic framing I used my good ol nail gun too, but screws and SDS bolts from there.

Nails are the minimum for building and have there place. ever walked on a floor that is nailed? It always squeaks.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #753 on:** March 08, 2016, 08:33:08 PM »

Thanks for all the input folks!

I took your concerns to the man. He is going to put two lag bolts in each post and he was going to slip a jack stud under the floor joists. The way that works is they bolt in another 2 X to the inside of the post. Remember the 2 X 12 is bolted to the outside. So on the inside there will be a second 2 X to support the weight. The joists will actually rest on this jack stud so I think we answered the question about the floor strength.

OK, so today was a long one, about 12 hours of building. I am smoked...

Almost right away they had a deck down and the first wall up

Flyin6 · « **Reply #754 on:** March 08, 2016, 08:34:34 PM »

The wall was wobbly until they braced it up some.

A lot of it was prepainted, but some of the stuff was getting painted on site.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #755 on:** March 08, 2016, 08:36:12 PM »

Next the front wall was stretched a foot and erected

Flyin6 · « **Reply #756 on:** March 08, 2016, 08:37:56 PM »

The prebuilt panels were stacked like chord wood along with the rafters

Flyin6 · « **Reply #757 on:** March 08, 2016, 08:39:44 PM »

This material is the latest thing in exterior sheeting. Plywood on one side, some type of composite on the other side. When nailing it with a nail gun, it emits a odd "Whack" sound...as if it's a lot harder than soft wood...and it is!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #758 on:** March 08, 2016, 08:50:30 PM »

Then the side with the eight foot door

Flyin6 · « **Reply #759 on:** March 08, 2016, 08:51:39 PM »

Not quite big enough to produce an echo, but pretty cavernous for a "Shed."

Flyin6 · « **Reply #760 on:** March 08, 2016, 08:52:38 PM »

One of the two "Barn doors."

I chose to keep the trim color the same as the walls so as to not get really "Busy" on this side

Flyin6 · « **Reply #761 on:** March 08, 2016, 08:54:45 PM »

Next the other wall went up

Flyin6 · « **Reply #762 on:** March 08, 2016, 08:55:29 PM »

Inside is shaping up!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #763 on:** March 08, 2016, 08:56:11 PM »

Trim, trim, trim!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #764 on:** March 08, 2016, 08:57:42 PM »

The rafters were tricky to say the least

Flyin6 · « **Reply #765 on:** March 08, 2016, 08:58:46 PM »

More roof...

Flyin6 · « **Reply #766 on:** March 08, 2016, 09:00:33 PM »

Soffets going in Ventilated? Not yet

Flyin6 · « **Reply #767 on:** March 08, 2016, 09:02:10 PM »

Interior volume is definitely there!

The dormer ends were stick built and installed piece by piece

Flyin6 · « **Reply #768 on:** March 08, 2016, 09:04:25 PM »

Those collar ties are temporary. When I hang the floor joists, they will come out

Roof on front side is getting sheeted up

stlaser · « **Reply #769 on:** March 08, 2016, 09:04:29 PM »

Flyin6 · « **Reply #770 on:** March 08, 2016, 09:05:12 PM »

Quote from: stlaser on March 08, 2016, 09:04:29 PM

Nice

Thank ya!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #771 on:** March 08, 2016, 09:06:26 PM »

Getting ready for some paper and shingles!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #772 on:** March 08, 2016, 09:07:25 PM »

Gable end getting sheeted up as well

Flyin6 · « **Reply #773 on:** March 08, 2016, 09:10:11 PM »

The roof sheeting process had to stop for awhile. The wind was picking up and gusty and those plywood roof panels make a pretty good sail!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #774 on:** March 08, 2016, 09:12:18 PM »

The first gable end is sheeted, awaiting a window

Flyin6 · « **Reply #775 on:** March 08, 2016, 09:13:56 PM »

Basically how things sat at 1830 when everyone threw in the towel!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #776 on:** March 08, 2016, 09:17:10 PM »

While all that was going on, I pulled some tractor maintenance. I changed the oil and filter, lubed everything and tightened up bolts on the loader arms. I then went off bush hogging the front lane. I finally got rid of those pesky locust trees!

I also cut the nearly vertical embankment to form a gentle angle and provide some much needed clearance

Flyin6 · « **Reply #777 on:** March 08, 2016, 09:19:51 PM »

Of course the day was not to be without it's necessary carnage.

I ran over a stump with the bush hog running and I guess the clutch didn't slip fast enough, as the driveshaft folded on me destroying it!

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #778 on:** March 08, 2016, 10:03:28 PM »

Don, very happy for you. I know it feels good to start to get some permanence to the hide. As for all the armchair building going on , we care. But just remember one thing a good friend of mine and I had to agree on. When you are writing the check, you are the only one that has to be happy.

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Flyin6 · « **Reply #779 on:** March 08, 2016, 10:07:53 PM »

Quote from: TexasRedNeck on March 08, 2016, 10:03:28 PM

Don, very happy for you. I know it feels good to start to get some permanence to the hide. As for all the armchair building going on , we care. But just remember one thing a good friend of mine and I had to agree on. When you are writing the check, you are the only one that has to be happy.

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stlaser · « **Reply #780 on:** March 08, 2016, 10:10:36 PM »

End with barn doors is gunna be tool shed right? Attach a lean to off that side to work under & would make it very nice..... Or buy a shipping container & place it out about 20' for extra storage and then build roof between the two structures

Flyin6 · « **Reply #781 on:** March 08, 2016, 10:13:18 PM »

Quote from: stlaser on March 08, 2016, 10:10:36 PM

End with barn doors is gunna be tool shed right? Attach a lean to off that side to work under & would make it very nice..... Or buy a shipping container & place it out about 20' for extra storage and then build roof between the two structures

It's getting a shed roof on the back side for the tractor, a shed roof and porch on the front for rocking chairs, and maybe a bit of a roof on the big door side to keep the rain out so i can open door it during the showers...

stlaser · « **Reply #782 on:** March 08, 2016, 10:15:54 PM »

Dawg25385 · « **Reply #783 on:** March 08, 2016, 10:20:01 PM »

Quote from: TexasRedNeck on March 08, 2016, 10:03:28 PM

Don, very happy for you. I know it feels good to start to get some permanence to the hide. As for all the armchair building going on , we care. But just remember one thing a good friend of mine and I had to agree on. When you are writing the check, you are the only one that has to be happy.

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What he said!

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Flyin6 · « **Reply #784 on:** March 08, 2016, 10:20:26 PM »

Danke!

cudakidd53 · « **Reply #785 on:** March 08, 2016, 10:41:57 PM »

Really nice Don- upon first look I thought that it needs a steeple, or bell tower....Don's Schoolhouse?

KensAuto · « **Reply #786 on:** March 08, 2016, 10:47:46 PM »

That's Nice!!!

You say shed? That would be an office building in some parts!

JR · « **Reply #787 on:** March 08, 2016, 11:28:04 PM »

As us armchair builders "suggest", you do know much of this is in fun and experiance over our lives, perhaps a little shorter than yours.

Something I found quick was the bounce in my 14ft floor (16ctr-2x10) With that huge open space you are going to get some bounce. I put a 4x4 under my center on pier blocks.

Sure looks like a nice size "shed" 8)

Flyin6 · « **Reply #788 on:** March 09, 2016, 07:54:32 AM »

Quote from: JR on March 08, 2016, 11:28:04 PM

As us armchair builders "suggest", you do know much of this is in fun and experiance over our lives, perhaps a little shorter than yours.

Something I found quick was the bounce in my 14ft floor (16ctr-2x10) With that huge open space you are going to get some bounce. I put a 4x4 under my center on pier blocks.

Sure looks like a nice size "shed" 8)

JR, the joists are 12" not 10" and on 16" centers.

Walking on it now, there is no bounce I can detect. Not trying to protect my project per see, but it feels as solid as a rock right now.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #789 on:** March 09, 2016, 07:56:00 AM »

Quote from: cudakidd53 on March 08, 2016, 10:41:57 PM

Really nice Don- upon first look I thought that it needs a steeple, or bell tower....Don's Schoolhouse?

Does kind of look like that doesn't it!

Well by the time it gets the shed roof front and rear it will start to look quite different.

Dawg25385 · « **Reply #790 on:** March 09, 2016, 08:52:31 AM »

Will end up looking like a monitor style barn if my imagination of your lean-to's is accurate, which I think will look awesome

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JR · « **Reply #791 on:** March 09, 2016, 10:46:22 AM »

A small "turret" up there would look good. Polk your head up, look around and add a weather station.

stlaser · « **Reply #792 on:** March 09, 2016, 12:00:04 PM »

Oh boy, as if Don didn't have enough to talk about already! Now he's gunna be a weather man? Let's just hope he doesn't report in the buff like some of those off color cable stations...... :o

cj7ox · « **Reply #793 on:** March 09, 2016, 12:32:04 PM »

Quote from: JR on March 09, 2016, 10:46:22 AM

A small "turret" up there with a crew served weaponwould look good.

Fixed it for ya! ;)

Sammconn · « **Reply #794 on:** March 09, 2016, 07:39:57 PM »

Lookin real good chief! For a 'shed', I think it will suffice...

Flyin6 · « **Reply #795 on:** March 09, 2016, 08:47:22 PM »

Well, got the building completed today and keys handed over. Well, completed by the builder, now I am going to get busy on it!

By the time I got out there this morning the shingles were going on

Flyin6 · « **Reply #796 on:** March 09, 2016, 08:48:22 PM »

And the gable ends were completed as well

Dawg25385 · « **Reply #797 on:** March 09, 2016, 08:48:55 PM »

Have to say I love the color scheme, the green comp looks great on the burgundy paint

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Flyin6 · « **Reply #798 on:** March 09, 2016, 08:50:26 PM »

Quote from: Dawg25385 on March 09, 2016, 08:48:55 PM

Have to say I love the color scheme, the green comp looks great on the burgundy paint

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It's a porter paint barn red color that you see from time to time around here. Mostly our barns are black, but I wanted to add a bit of flair, and I wanted it to match that Privy that Nate sent me plans to.

cj7ox · « **Reply #799 on:** March 09, 2016, 08:50:51 PM »

Nice!