Post by: KensAuto on December 07, 2019, 07:25:49 PM
About 14 years ago the original body, abused from 4 wheeling and mudding, was replaced by pieces of a '78, '82, '87, etc. and painted to match my 2000 half ton. The power plant is currently a 66 Pontiac 400, which replaced the worn out 71 Firebird 400, which replaced the blown (up) 350. She also has a 4sp backed up with a 205 transfer case.
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Post by: KensAuto on December 07, 2019, 07:35:59 PM
A Duramax was the original dream, just because I'm a GM guy, but just don't want the headache.
She lost the AC compressor a few years ago so I parked it. A couple weeks ago we pulled the fuel tanks out to clean, and shortly after, I came across a great deal on a '86 square body that was already swapped.
.. impeccable timing.
This is that truck. It's a western hauler conversion which probably had a big block. I bought it cheap not knowing if the engine was good, or what year it was. All I knew was that it was 2wd, NV4500, and had a P-pump.
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Post by: KensAuto on December 07, 2019, 07:43:39 PM
I was so excited about this project that I pulled the engine/trans the next day.
The oil fill tube had unscrewed itself from the timing cover and made one heck of a mess over the years. Can't believe no one noticed. It took me over 4 hours to steam clean the engine, trans, and radiator.
Post by: oklawall on December 07, 2019, 07:54:23 PM
Post by: KensAuto on December 07, 2019, 08:03:43 PM
The engine ID plate on the front cover says it's a '90, 160 horse motor, so I would assume a certain devious dowel pin probably took out the original housing, and no one saved the original plate. The P-pump numbers show that it's one of the more desirable engines, a '96, 215 horse, manual trans. I'm good with that.
...best part is that I got 2 additional engines with the truck. After running the pump numbers, they are both '95s, with 175hp.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191208/1af29f52d20c2016805a74542687d77c.jpg)
Post by: KensAuto on December 07, 2019, 08:17:01 PM
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Post by: KensAuto on December 07, 2019, 08:26:01 PM
...aftermarket relocation brackets. These seem to range in the $600-1200 range.
Not unless I'm forced to. Trying to keep this cheap, being my slow season at the shop.
Here's where I'm at right now. I layed the alternator over on it's side. I modified (narrowed) the upper alternator mount (thermostat housing) to the same size as a Sanden style compressor, (minus 1/4") that I had in the shed.
Then made a 1/4" bracket going from the main Alt. bolt up to the main compressor bolt. I welded a side brace that bolts to the oil cooler.
Side note: If this fails I guess you all will be witnesses. Lol
Post by: KensAuto on December 07, 2019, 08:31:59 PM
This is as it stands right now.
Post by: stlaser on December 07, 2019, 08:39:19 PM
Post by: KensAuto on December 07, 2019, 09:32:31 PM
Post by: wilsonphil on December 07, 2019, 09:57:41 PM
Post by: KensAuto on December 07, 2019, 10:48:11 PM
Post by: wilsonphil on December 08, 2019, 12:36:39 PM
Post by: KensAuto on December 08, 2019, 01:38:13 PM
dont forget about the gearcase bolts, id pull everyone you can get too and locktight themWill do boss.
Post by: KensAuto on December 08, 2019, 01:42:16 PM
Post by: KensAuto on December 08, 2019, 01:48:30 PM
Post by: JR on December 08, 2019, 09:29:23 PM
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on December 08, 2019, 10:10:35 PM
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Post by: KensAuto on December 09, 2019, 11:40:12 AM
Nah. This one will get doneOuch.
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.. not if I keep making mistakes like putting the tensioner bolt in the middle of the belt routing. :Facepalm
Looking for a specific allen bolt now.
Post by: wilsonphil on December 09, 2019, 04:22:10 PM
Post by: KensAuto on December 09, 2019, 10:43:59 PM
After lacing the belt on, in a completely different pattern than the original, I realized that the alternator didn't have enough contact on the pulley.
I added an idler pulley where the original tensioner once resided. Time will tell if it's enough.
The new belt is exactly 4 inches longer and not hard to find.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191210/9d9e87759d63e19976c7d94615b10e6b.jpg)
Post by: KensAuto on December 09, 2019, 10:53:35 PM
I made the plate large enough to remount the crank position sensor if I ever desire to run a tach. (Took the sensor off when rerouting the belt)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191210/e15756d1ad0f50a5f61bcf7edd027ccd.jpg)
Post by: JR on December 10, 2019, 12:00:49 AM
Post by: Flyin6 on December 10, 2019, 09:23:45 AM
Keep learnin the rest of us PP
Post by: KensAuto on December 10, 2019, 08:40:57 PM
First, I layed out the necessary tools and gasket kit...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191211/5d161bc0c0754b496c1375d2e129eaf8.jpg)
Post by: KensAuto on December 10, 2019, 08:58:24 PM
Then tore it down.
Disclaimer: There's basically 2 mechanical type jobs that I usually won't do for customers. Rebuild transmissions, or rear differentials. So this should be interesting.
I received a rebuilt kit that includes an updated 4wd main shaft and 5th gear, with a new locking nut to hold it on. This is the main failure point on the 4500...the nut comes loose causing a mess. The updated shaft has full length splines for 5th, where as the stock one is only splined 1/3 of the way through the gear.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191211/393b16d972620a576c553c8b4580da78.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191211/a9ca69e4a27c383a509094dd8f9f2047.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191211/ee870b3836c2fa3ba9e9c4b4b8261846.jpg)
Post by: KensAuto on December 10, 2019, 09:05:59 PM
Post by: EL TATE on December 11, 2019, 12:48:41 PM
Got tired of working on the engine today, especially since it was cold outside and there isn't room in my tiny shop for it, so I started on converting the NV4500 2wd trans to a 4wd.
First, I layed out the necessary tools and gasket kit...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191211/5d161bc0c0754b496c1375d2e129eaf8.jpg)
cold like what, low 70's, lol?
Post by: KensAuto on December 11, 2019, 12:59:51 PM
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Post by: swbhobie16 on December 13, 2019, 07:05:48 AM
While I was working on the front I decided to install a top dead center pointer. I used the timing pin to locate TDC then cut a groove in the balancer. Then made a pointer that bolts to the cover and case. To those that aren't aware, the Cummins balancer can bolt on in 4 different positions, *90 apart. I'll have to keep it in the right location for the pointer to work.
I made the plate large enough to remount the crank position sensor if I ever desire to run a tach. (Took the sensor off when rerouting the belt)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191210/e15756d1ad0f50a5f61bcf7edd027ccd.jpg)
i ran an autometer diesel specific tach that reads off the alternator and can be tuned depending on pulley size. did it on the kaiser as well as turners rig.
Post by: KensAuto on December 13, 2019, 09:15:15 AM
Finished the transmission yesterday. Had to make a socket for the 5th gear nut. Torque is supposed to be 275ft lbs...using a large prybar, I turned it 'til my shoulder clicked. Should be close.
Snagged a cast iron 4wd tailhousing off of eBay. Now I need to spend some coin on an expensive adapter to hook up the 205.
Post by: TexasRedNeck on December 13, 2019, 10:46:53 AM
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Post by: EL TATE on December 13, 2019, 12:04:01 PM
Post by: stlaser on December 13, 2019, 01:04:17 PM
Post by: KensAuto on December 13, 2019, 07:01:27 PM
Started resealing the engine today. Took the pan off first to check out the bearings, only to make WilsonPhil happy, per his request. (It passed his critiquing).
Also looks like someone balanced this motor. I'll probably pull the head to see if anything else was modded.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191214/4e8059f90f2c2e155a68df344be59b24.jpg)
Post by: KensAuto on December 13, 2019, 07:07:54 PM
The new ones fit regular gm mounts.
My employee had some poly ones that he donated to the cause.
First pics are the Ford ones.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191214/30269692c352ead5d9ce99c92a0a23b1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191214/de575cc6176e4dc93524e4c531fb393f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191214/75cf2c25dd46fb0cdf452699d31b132f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191214/036ce8c5b81f817810fd35173cf7aa26.jpg)
Post by: stlaser on December 13, 2019, 07:37:33 PM
Thanks Shawn for being so helpful. I knew I could count on you buddy.
Started resealing the engine today. Took the pan off first to check out the bearings, only to make WilsonPhil happy, per his request. (It passed his critiquing).
Also looks like someone balanced this motor. I'll probably pull the head to see if anything else was modded.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191214/4e8059f90f2c2e155a68df344be59b24.jpg)
Well, you know us welding types.....
Post by: swbhobie16 on December 15, 2019, 09:01:16 PM
Post by: swbhobie16 on December 15, 2019, 09:03:22 PM
Post by: KensAuto on December 15, 2019, 09:03:52 PM
What do you have?
Post by: swbhobie16 on December 15, 2019, 09:06:12 PM
From 1973, pass drop, 10 spline.
you’re going to have to big bore swap the 10 spline over to 29, yes?
Post by: swbhobie16 on December 15, 2019, 09:06:45 PM
Post by: swbhobie16 on December 15, 2019, 09:18:42 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Ek9WYDW.jpg)
and this was a 27 spline 80mm small bore case.
now, it’s going to be a 31 spline 90 mm big bore case for a 203/205 doubler.
(https://i.imgur.com/TtkDIFy.jpg)
Post by: KensAuto on December 15, 2019, 09:37:41 PM
Post by: swbhobie16 on December 15, 2019, 09:40:58 PM
and you’ll need a 29 spline male.. then a 29 spline female/female (if you go the route i’m thinking you are. if you have a way to do it with a 29 spline female input for the 205.. please disregard previous statement lol)
Post by: KensAuto on December 15, 2019, 10:29:46 PM
Post by: stlaser on December 15, 2019, 10:59:48 PM
I might know someone who has both btw...... :tongue:
Post by: KensAuto on December 15, 2019, 11:07:46 PM
Post by: stlaser on December 15, 2019, 11:23:17 PM
I have access to 2 Ford 32s, but driver's drop. No bueno.
Pull the input and bore the gm case to fit
Post by: America.Mike on December 16, 2019, 12:07:46 AM
With my transfer case and doubler I bored the NP205 case for a 90mm big bearing. Im installing a ford 31 spline input a cut resplined and heat treated mainshaft for the NP203 and a 32spline input.
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Post by: swbhobie16 on December 16, 2019, 07:21:39 AM
I have access to 2 Ford 32s, but driver's drop. No bueno.
might want to recount.. i think they’re 31 spline and short input. you’d need a 32 spline long from a chevy behind a TH400 or 4L80 i believe.
which kit are you thinking of using?
that gray case i have started out as a small bore. couple hours at the machine shop and now it’s a big bore lol
Post by: KensAuto on December 16, 2019, 08:21:36 AM
I think you're right Seth, 31 spline now that I think about it.
I like the doubler idea, but this truck won't get used much. She's semi retired to a much easier life now. .. only need 4wd to pull Don out of the mulch beds when he comes to visit.
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Post by: swbhobie16 on December 16, 2019, 08:28:22 AM
if you do run across a 29 spline dodge case, they bolt right up to the 4500. did it for the kaiser. where exactly are you located? out by turner?
Post by: KensAuto on December 16, 2019, 08:36:31 AM
Post by: swbhobie16 on December 16, 2019, 09:54:47 AM
I'm thinking with that kit I should be able to reuse the stock Chevy single stick without hitting my bench seat. As it is, looks like the nv4500 stick is going to move back about 3-4 inches farther towards the seat. I don't really want to have to use a remote twin stick at this time.... also don't want bucket seats.
well.. if you get to that point, i have a set of JB fab shifter and some short cables if you need. can sell cheap ish (not MSRP.. :rolleyes: ) thanks to another member on here..
Post by: swbhobie16 on December 16, 2019, 10:25:44 AM
I'm thinking with that kit I should be able to reuse the stock Chevy single stick without hitting my bench seat. As it is, looks like the nv4500 stick is going to move back about 3-4 inches farther towards the seat. I don't really want to have to use a remote twin stick at this time.... also don't want bucket seats.
and if it’s any confirmation.. when we put the 4500 in the kaiser it pushed the shifter back (from original 4 speed) about 4” as well. just for comparison.
Post by: KensAuto on December 16, 2019, 01:58:01 PM
Post by: stlaser on December 16, 2019, 06:40:46 PM
Post by: swbhobie16 on December 17, 2019, 08:19:18 AM
GM and Dodge shifter angles are different, One is more straight up and down than the other fyi.....
is this for 205s or 4500s?
i can get an angle from a ‘99 dodge NV4500 and report back
Post by: KensAuto on December 17, 2019, 08:29:45 AM
Next up was resealing the t-cover. Good timing on my part, no pun intended. The infamous dowel pin had started it's exodus from the block, and the 4 rear housing screws were fairly loose.
The black piece blocks the dowel from coming out, and the new allen bolt is too long to unscrew by itself, without hitting the outer cover.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191217/7e8b9d3d1d92cd8d34eddf9c98a24578.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191217/91c00e2993005cfe15caafb8f161efba.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191217/57a4be595203166021250c6f8d1ccad0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191217/1c453fc64dff4dc7316a24b7d174c080.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191217/19ef2384baac8b3fc88e91e03f37d51e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191217/1b1f765a776708a49106355daf4fcdb8.jpg)
Post by: wilsonphil on December 17, 2019, 10:59:30 AM
Post by: stlaser on December 17, 2019, 02:54:28 PM
GM and Dodge shifter angles are different, One is more straight up and down than the other fyi.....
is this for 205s or 4500s?
i can get an angle from a ‘99 dodge NV4500 and report back
4500's, I have GM if you need but I think the base of the handle could be warmed up and tweaked slightly....
Post by: KensAuto on December 26, 2019, 09:48:25 PM
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Post by: KensAuto on December 26, 2019, 09:53:56 PM
I basically cut out 2" vertical, then welded a 1" strip back in as a lip, curved to match the balancer.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191227/3637e8822340d7cb3178ef640be1fb5e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191227/7fb1eb11004694165b697d15908fb6ff.jpg)
Post by: KensAuto on December 26, 2019, 09:58:32 PM
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Post by: KensAuto on December 28, 2019, 09:26:17 PM
I used some 3/16" walled 2x5 rec tube.
It was cut with a newly acquired band saw that was in pretty bad shape. One of the things I had to do was mill out one of the big pulleys and install brass bushings.
Pics before and after:
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Post by: KensAuto on December 28, 2019, 09:27:58 PM
Post by: stlaser on December 28, 2019, 09:46:02 PM
Post by: KensAuto on December 28, 2019, 09:51:39 PM
I found a used 24v manifold off a medium truck that has a rear turbo mount, so I mocked it up today.
First pic is of the donor truck, before I pulled the engine.
Other pics are of the 24v manifold.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191229/e73b2a14828efd95ee1683b99163ad8b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191229/e8fe06530017cd00a6ee0537636f4453.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191229/8aa365b2edb23eb60c6f168fae4e5ae2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191229/949f7d1e3b5b84c606857b3a2f8c0450.jpg)
Post by: KensAuto on December 28, 2019, 09:54:59 PM
Post by: Bigdave_185 on December 28, 2019, 10:27:07 PM
Looks like it has a good bit more mass to it
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Post by: KensAuto on December 28, 2019, 10:54:31 PM
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Post by: KensAuto on December 29, 2019, 11:32:15 AM
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Post by: Flyin6 on December 30, 2019, 02:03:12 PM
Fast build
Post by: KensAuto on January 08, 2020, 08:43:05 PM
looking goodThank you kindly.
Fast build
I got distracted with a couple busy weeks at work, which is strange for this time of year, but spent a few minutes on the project.
First, I pulled the engine back out after some measurements. I had originally decided not to replace the side cover gasket because I didn't want to pull the injection pump. This caused me many restless nights.
...so the pump was removed and the side cover gasket replaced:(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200109/7b800a2b2abd89a8127616c467e5ec0c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200109/177c123d0f0529f400c5b0ca800ed592.jpg)
Post by: KensAuto on January 08, 2020, 08:52:36 PM
First was the upgraded governor springs. This takes the stock rev limit from about 2800 to 4000. Thanks to the internet, this was painless.
You basically remove a 22mm plug in the governor housing, turn the pump to access one set of springs, then rotate the pump shaft 180* to access the second set, and not drop anything inside.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200109/0018e067bf70c4d477b1ec55357e5eb6.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200109/2f7fca3e2929ba8b5d921fc7f4251f8b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200109/728a37d0cb191fb50de436593fb780e5.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200109/7bbff92a1606013ff31b8882ec349e1f.jpg)
Post by: KensAuto on January 08, 2020, 08:56:31 PM
Post by: KensAuto on January 08, 2020, 09:04:13 PM
I'm not going into crazy detail on these mods since there's plenty of videos on the net already, and it technically has little to do with the original purpose of this thread.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200109/9937ee3718f6f98f8b9ddb462ab5ff2d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200109/67382755c334bbc5f709deca9631f7cc.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200109/cb983a6c919343b0b02f18282a0d224c.jpg)
Post by: KensAuto on January 08, 2020, 09:07:33 PM
Post by: JR on January 08, 2020, 10:22:11 PM
Upgrade, then upgrade some more!
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Post by: KensAuto on January 10, 2020, 10:33:36 PM
I did Cerakote the manifold and turbo.
Next up, boxing the frame.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200111/7bfcdf5635d5a3c17a044e027f538031.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200111/b958dd92ac2e39f98a0a22bf71db669d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200111/4efceb96d7af1f514d37f3fa0ab4e2d7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200111/7a62b1a9067def7fe10163d911d55831.jpg)
Post by: stlaser on January 11, 2020, 07:43:28 AM
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Post by: swbhobie16 on January 11, 2020, 08:27:21 PM
Post by: KensAuto on January 11, 2020, 10:45:00 PM
does that thing run yet?? that’s all anyone here really cares about anyway. hahahI'm sure it's capable of running again, but not capable of driving!
Today I cut out the hardest pieces to start boxing the frame. Anyone that's ever worked on an old truck, especially a GM, knows how uneven the stamped frames can be. In this case, the lower part of the c-channel is almost an inch wider than the upper. ..and the left rail doesn't match the right side, so I can't use the same pattern for both sides.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200112/dd01b84f515846c572521c98e7434378.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200112/d2a0f2efad172ea9308bb2e069141669.jpg)
Post by: stlaser on January 11, 2020, 10:57:58 PM
Doing research I’m trying to plan for my own upcoming process including building a stand for it to facilitate all of that.
Edit: sorry after looking back I now see Phil gave it two thumbs up so you must have checked something.
Post by: KensAuto on January 12, 2020, 12:00:05 AM
Post by: stlaser on January 12, 2020, 12:07:24 AM
Bearings were great, but what I didn't show was the scoring in the cylinders. Looks like someone ran it without an air cleaner for a while. Didn't have much blow-by, so I'm gonna run it.
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Post by: swbhobie16 on January 12, 2020, 08:16:26 AM
Bearings were great, but what I didn't show was the scoring in the cylinders. Looks like someone ran it without an air cleaner for a while. Didn't have much blow-by, so I'm gonna run it.
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if she’s passes a compression test, i’d say just put some fuel to it and bump the starter and let it ride.
Post by: JR on January 12, 2020, 04:23:23 PM
Post by: America.Mike on January 12, 2020, 04:41:20 PM
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Post by: KensAuto on January 12, 2020, 09:00:52 PM
Looking good man! If compression is good run it!Thank you sir.
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Post by: KensAuto on January 13, 2020, 01:37:43 PM
Yeah I know, the guy that did the welding gets worse with every passing year.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200113/6b80d7a8e0cb227b758553d17697a518.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200113/533e339bbff918225bbeb788c1645313.jpg)
Post by: JR on January 13, 2020, 02:23:10 PM
I would address the steering box now while its open. My 77 was so bad I cut the whole area out then welded solid spacers from the box to inside the frame.
Post by: stlaser on January 13, 2020, 09:36:30 PM
Post by: KensAuto on January 14, 2020, 12:13:44 AM
You going to box the whole frame? Nice while you have it apart.Weird that mine never cracked there considering what this truck has been through. Gonna box it rearward to the spring hangers. Probably weld a plate on the outside of the frame for the gearbox... would be easier.
I would address the steering box now while its open. My 77 was so bad I cut the whole area out then welded solid spacers from the box to inside the frame.
Thanks Shawn. Even with a cheater lens I can barely see what I'm welding nowadays.
Post by: stlaser on January 14, 2020, 08:12:23 AM
Post by: KensAuto on January 18, 2020, 02:49:52 PM
Next up, I need to swap clutch pedal assemblies and make a place for a hydraulic master cylinder before reinstalling the engine.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200118/dadd0b988325ad97926e14c27c5bdec1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200118/7d83c7fb545b169b39148da6e791747a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200118/d8a5bce826ffdd94158059173b0d92f7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200118/ed4e3ba0bda2651ad670ab48e571b2b2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200118/b725951fe3a06631ecf43a97fbfa8781.jpg)
Post by: KensAuto on January 18, 2020, 02:53:12 PM
Post by: JR on January 18, 2020, 03:16:25 PM
You are doing it about like I did my 77. Leaving the cab on you can still get about 99% of it.
Post by: KensAuto on January 18, 2020, 04:33:54 PM
I'm putting a D60 in after it's back to being driveable. I bought it about 12 years ago to put in this truck so another year won't matter. I'll have to add some lift to the front anyways.
Post by: stlaser on January 18, 2020, 06:17:34 PM
Post by: JR on January 18, 2020, 06:53:08 PM
Post by: KensAuto on January 18, 2020, 08:55:36 PM
Ken when you do that front you should look at DIY B52’s and re spring the front end.....Diy b52s? WTH is that? You can build your own bomber? Interesting but I think you posted in the wrong thread. This is a pickup build. ,
Post by: stlaser on January 18, 2020, 08:59:33 PM
Post by: KensAuto on January 18, 2020, 09:12:50 PM
Post by: stlaser on January 18, 2020, 11:09:55 PM
Post by: swbhobie16 on January 19, 2020, 07:13:12 AM
Post by: JR on January 19, 2020, 03:04:50 PM
Post by: KensAuto on January 19, 2020, 07:35:57 PM
Post by: stlaser on January 19, 2020, 09:29:27 PM
Post by: KensAuto on January 19, 2020, 10:42:15 PM
Post by: JR on January 20, 2020, 12:21:05 AM
Never broke my 44 either, SBC but lots of universals!
Post by: KensAuto on January 20, 2020, 08:54:00 AM
But was it a 1000 lb cummins up top?Not much more than a loaded down Pontiac tbh.
Never broke my 44 either, SBC but lots of universals!
Post by: stlaser on January 20, 2020, 07:09:12 PM
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 20, 2020, 10:44:16 PM
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Post by: stlaser on January 20, 2020, 10:48:25 PM
Is hot air a power source for vehicles now?
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Just old dodges...... :popcorn:
Post by: wilsonphil on January 20, 2020, 11:47:54 PM
Post by: swbhobie16 on January 21, 2020, 08:13:36 AM
website?
https://precisionfabricationplus.com/shop?olsPage=products%2F80-91-gm-k-and-v-series-truck-blazer-and-suburban-52-hd-boomerang-shackle-kit&page=3
it moves the front upper shackle hangers (FUSH) back to under the front cab mount which allows your to run 52” (i actually thing he’s building them 53”) which gives you much better/softer ride with the increase length. i also believe he’s pushing the front axle forward 1” to allow for better steering characteristics. only down side is you’d have to take some of the plating off to get to it now..
Post by: stlaser on January 21, 2020, 10:16:34 AM
Post by: KensAuto on January 21, 2020, 11:35:51 PM
Working on the clutch hydraulics now.
The donor truck had used the Dodge slave and master. The master was cobbled to the firewall pretty badly so I wanted to do something better.
First I had to swap over the pedal assemblies. Donor truck had hydro pedals, which are different than the'73 mechanical linkage style.
Here they are . Old one on top.
Other pic is of the cobbled twist style adapter for the Dodge master cylinder.
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Post by: KensAuto on January 21, 2020, 11:42:12 PM
Post by: KensAuto on January 21, 2020, 11:45:57 PM
Post by: KensAuto on January 22, 2020, 12:07:20 AM
The '85 Chevy version is cast, but only 11/16 bore...but...direct mount and proper rod length and geometry.
The Dodge is 7/8"... not even close. ..no way that smaller bore would work with the Dodge slave. (which is 1" bore )
I'm going to try a cast slave from a 91 Chevy 3500. I'll have to redrill the mounting holes and cut the push rod.
It has a 13/16 bore, for an .85:1 ratio, compared to the Dodge's .875:1 ratio.
With this setup I can get rid of the plastic line and o-ring connections... just hope it works.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200122/39bccfd7b014d93073c5c951faefa8e1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200122/efe66df591dc5642afd4497b9c653a68.jpg)
Post by: KensAuto on January 22, 2020, 12:12:19 AM
And that's as far as I made it today.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200122/eb3385d85ea883edc1eedc0fb24a9a0b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200122/0b97fb42b93d67c3a92f81494715a239.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200122/9bb4bf340cc85ef4829a47972fc70f61.jpg)
Post by: JR on January 22, 2020, 12:15:53 AM
Any aftermarket for the slave, plastic sounds hokey.
Post by: KensAuto on January 25, 2020, 09:17:01 PM
I'll wait till the trans is installed before ordering a braided hose.
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Post by: KensAuto on January 25, 2020, 09:26:39 PM
Since I'm replacing the fuel tanks, I ordered newer style senders, with 2 lines.
The original line was on the passenger side. Cummins gets fed from the left side.
I installed new fuel lines:(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200126/a4691ce03a87b018ac40d5db96f640e2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200126/72d84e9bb37adec36a9ecdad9d4c7e8d.jpg)
Post by: KensAuto on January 25, 2020, 09:38:27 PM
In the late 70s when they went to a return system, they used a similar valve but with 6 ports, so that the return fuel returns to the proper tank... again, a single wire.
That valve is no longer available. The replacements are for the trucks in the 80s, with 6 wires. It can be converted, but I'm too lazy, so I found a used 6 port, single wire to use for now.
^^^^I should really learn to condense my thoughts.
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Post by: KensAuto on January 25, 2020, 09:47:33 PM
There's no way to make room for an intercooler in a '73 without 'ruining' the radiator support, and using a different grill. ..the only body parts still original, and unmolested. The grill recesses inward, etc. and it's staying.
So, I'm going to run a water to air cooler. Her days of working hard are over so it should be fine.
The grill and hood latch support:(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200126/be1e8f141dee733492631300e5c2e0e7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200126/86b45d8d441be18a7ed281bc1dc0be53.jpg)
Post by: KensAuto on January 25, 2020, 09:52:57 PM
Post by: KensAuto on January 25, 2020, 09:57:23 PM
The intercooler radiator was mounted to that on the outside so I can access the drain.
The assembly was then mounted in the opening.
I have an 1/8" gap between it and the hood latch support... barely fits but good enough.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200126/533ac5929178e7ca8f2c6ea68848729a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200126/cf30b5e723627c0f5822425e74186991.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200126/4abcab6b0490c5ee86e7721b91b838c9.jpg)
Post by: JR on January 26, 2020, 03:32:04 AM
What intercooler was that Ken? I got a ford SD that everyone said would fit and it turned right into the uprights.
Mine is the lower 80s hood and already have a aftermarket grill.
Post by: swbhobie16 on January 26, 2020, 08:07:39 AM
i found a manual 6 port brass valve that would make it fool proof to operate (no wires) and has the return going to the appropriate tank as well. pretty slick design. but i’m not sure i want that. other thought is burb tank. pretty straight forward. just 33 gal behind the axle.
option #3 i’m tossing around is plumbing the 2 tanks together with a single low ~1” line crossing between the 2..
now i know this sounds risky, but a quick glance at the truck the other day shows that the tanks dont hang below the frame. so. thought: drill a hole in the frame close to the bottom of the channel forward on the tanks. weld bungs into said tanks and have them run across and over DS just behind tcase.
tell me i’m wrong and just need to run a burb tank, not worry about being able to carry a full size spare and need to figure out how to fill it. which would be more functional..?
Post by: swbhobie16 on January 26, 2020, 08:17:41 AM
here’s that valve. would be perfect sitting under the driver seat of just on the side towards the door.
Post by: KensAuto on January 26, 2020, 11:47:55 AM
JR, they used the 2nd gen it looks like.
Post by: stlaser on January 26, 2020, 12:42:09 PM
Post by: KensAuto on January 26, 2020, 01:35:31 PM
Use the 3/8 one for supply and 5/16 for return, wired together. If one quits just make sure the switch is on the main tank and keep trucking.
The main reason I don't want to use the 6 wire modern one is that I used to see issues with them quite often. They have a worm gear motor that drives one way or another. Not only do they quit completely, they can also get stuck in any position. This design is supposed to be better because on the old ones, they stay engaged (solenoid style) when on auxillary. Mine made it 30 years by only using aux. when needed so I have more trust in them.
Post by: JR on January 26, 2020, 01:47:22 PM
Yeah I didn't mention the manual valve. Not a fan (lots of long rubber hoses to make it work) but definitely an option.
JR, they used the 2nd gen it looks like.
2nd gen Dodge?
Post by: KensAuto on January 26, 2020, 04:21:18 PM
Post by: swbhobie16 on January 27, 2020, 10:00:21 AM
Yeah I didn't mention the manual valve. Not a fan (lots of long rubber hoses to make it work) but definitely an option.
JR, they used the 2nd gen it looks like.
i suppose it could be used in conjunction with the factory hard lines and just ‘tapped’ in to with rubber to run to the valve itself. i would imagine some good oil resistant suction line would work alright for the lift pump on the 12 valve. (provided youre staying mechanical and not FASS
Post by: JR on January 27, 2020, 10:57:35 AM
Post by: KensAuto on January 27, 2020, 08:06:16 PM
Post by: swbhobie16 on January 27, 2020, 08:58:22 PM
My factory line ran down the wrong side. Then the new one I ran about 12 years ago was on the same side as well. Lol
pretty sure the ones on my crew are on the driver side. just get some of those
Post by: Flyin6 on January 28, 2020, 10:32:39 AM
Had to purchase additional storage space just to keep it on the thread!
Wow!
;-)
Post by: swbhobie16 on January 28, 2020, 03:16:07 PM
^^^ That's a big thumbs up!
Had to purchase additional storage space just to keep it on the thread!
Wow!
;-)
holy crow.. i didn’t realize it was that large. it was just the one from an iphone keyboard. won’t do that again.
Post by: KensAuto on January 28, 2020, 09:25:11 PM
Tidied up some wiring and mocked up the radiator , one of the only pieces being used from a Dodge. Did I ever mention how much I dislike Dodges?
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Post by: stlaser on January 28, 2020, 09:31:20 PM
Thumb looks normal on my phone. Weird.
Tidied up some wiring and mocked up the radiator , one of the only pieces being used from a Dodge. Did I ever mention how much I dislike Dodges?
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Nope, please do tell...... :tongue:
Post by: KensAuto on January 28, 2020, 09:34:56 PM
I'm posting pretty much as it happens. So, this may take a while.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200129/361743477a8613281261cb8182d87b6d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200129/379299df21873a103439d11ed5e80f92.jpg)
Post by: swbhobie16 on January 28, 2020, 10:06:10 PM
Post by: JR on January 28, 2020, 10:54:07 PM
Post by: stlaser on January 28, 2020, 11:08:14 PM
And please help me meet up with H. I've had a crush on her since the first time she wore pant suits.
:evil:Post by: JR on January 28, 2020, 11:29:05 PM
Post by: stlaser on January 28, 2020, 11:45:45 PM
Haul? I would like to see screaming and kicking!
:huh: Isn’t that what we see from Ken every time I mention him and H? :popcorn:
Post by: KensAuto on January 28, 2020, 11:56:11 PM
And Shawn, that's kind of a weird confession, and an even weirder place to do it. :moreevil:
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 29, 2020, 01:08:22 AM
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Post by: JR on January 29, 2020, 02:06:02 AM
Pictures are a must!
Post by: America.Mike on January 29, 2020, 02:25:58 AM
I wanted to get away from the plastic master, so I spent some time trying to sort that out.I ran a Chevy slave also. Works perfect with the heavy clutch I run.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200129/6a6c30b1b91b4e3b5c84b5f224490621.jpg)
The '85 Chevy version is cast, but only 11/16 bore...but...direct mount and proper rod length and geometry.
The Dodge is 7/8"... not even close. ..no way that smaller bore would work with the Dodge slave. (which is 1" bore )
I'm going to try a cast slave from a 91 Chevy 3500. I'll have to redrill the mounting holes and cut the push rod.
It has a 13/16 bore, for an .85:1 ratio, compared to the Dodge's .875:1 ratio.
With this setup I can get rid of the plastic line and o-ring connections... just hope it works.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200122/39bccfd7b014d93073c5c951faefa8e1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200122/efe66df591dc5642afd4497b9c653a68.jpg)
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Post by: KensAuto on January 29, 2020, 09:04:04 AM
Post by: TexasRedNeck on January 29, 2020, 02:35:04 PM
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Post by: JR on January 29, 2020, 10:05:21 PM
Post by: KensAuto on February 09, 2020, 06:34:42 PM
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Post by: swbhobie16 on February 09, 2020, 06:41:27 PM
Post by: KensAuto on February 09, 2020, 06:42:32 PM
Okay, only one of those is true...
One of them is for the future D60 I have yet to rebuild. Now I have a good reason to do so.
Should give me time to send them to Don for a super paint job. On second thought, he has a history with diff covers. No offense boss...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200209/7c64650b695d47c2139ec5121e5c76d3.jpg)
Post by: KensAuto on February 09, 2020, 06:43:44 PM
i just pulled mine! hahahaWell that's dumb, put it back in !!
Post by: JR on February 09, 2020, 06:52:56 PM
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 09, 2020, 06:55:12 PM
i just pulled mine! hahahaWell that's dumb, put it back in !!
they were empty and rusted inside. and too long for the short bed :grin:
Post by: Flyin6 on February 09, 2020, 07:19:41 PM
Also received some beautiful GLO plastic diff covers, with horrible welds, and Bernie stickers on the inside.I heard that!
Okay, only one of those is true...
One of them is for the future D60 I have yet to rebuild. Now I have a good reason to do so.
Should give me time to send them to Don for a super paint job. On second thought, he has a history with diff covers. No offense boss...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200209/7c64650b695d47c2139ec5121e5c76d3.jpg)
Post by: stlaser on February 09, 2020, 10:08:08 PM
Also received some beautiful GLO plastic diff covers, with horrible welds, and Bernie stickers on the inside.I heard that!
Okay, only one of those is true...
One of them is for the future D60 I have yet to rebuild. Now I have a good reason to do so.
Should give me time to send them to Don for a super paint job. On second thought, he has a history with diff covers. No offense boss...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200209/7c64650b695d47c2139ec5121e5c76d3.jpg)
Funny, know what I didn’t hear? A 12v running..... :tongue:
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 10, 2020, 05:42:03 AM
Also received some beautiful GLO plastic diff covers, with horrible welds, and Bernie stickers on the inside.I heard that!
Okay, only one of those is true...
One of them is for the future D60 I have yet to rebuild. Now I have a good reason to do so.
Should give me time to send them to Don for a super paint job. On second thought, he has a history with diff covers. No offense boss...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200209/7c64650b695d47c2139ec5121e5c76d3.jpg)
Funny, know what I didn’t hear? A 12v running..... :tongue:
i’m ducking for cover bc there are definitely shots being fired hahah
Post by: cj7ox on February 11, 2020, 04:34:10 PM
Post by: KensAuto on February 12, 2020, 09:26:14 PM
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 12, 2020, 09:29:59 PM
Post by: JR on February 12, 2020, 09:33:07 PM
I have a bunch of 30gal plastic containers, but may go with a 55.
Post by: KensAuto on February 12, 2020, 09:33:52 PM
http://imgur.com/a/Ugm9foi
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 13, 2020, 07:02:38 AM
Post by: dave945 on February 13, 2020, 08:45:07 AM
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Post by: KensAuto on February 13, 2020, 09:18:30 AM
Guess I made it public. The comments should be fun.
http://imgur.com/gallery/ZUHZzCE
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 13, 2020, 02:43:04 PM
One more time for the guys lacking an imagination. :)
Guess I made it public. The comments should be fun.
http://imgur.com/gallery/ZUHZzCE
more better
‘all engines are 12 bolt’ :facepalm:
Post by: KensAuto on February 14, 2020, 07:39:03 PM
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Post by: KensAuto on February 14, 2020, 07:45:33 PM
I had to cut off the end of the pressure line to the box, transfer the old line nut, and flair the end. Pretty easy.
After that the wires were taped and loomed, and heater hoses ran.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200215/6f3227297c06cbb63ed84bd125f28d55.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200215/8a472e66b04fd218ecf05e645375b50b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200215/1b3d73a801c08ee572bd948bbf041193.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200215/5afe72139e6d8ccaaf6646576ae4cfdd.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200215/bdbd7b47010e1f959580c1dab9c5b4dd.jpg)
Post by: JR on February 14, 2020, 08:35:47 PM
Post by: KensAuto on February 14, 2020, 10:16:47 PM
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 15, 2020, 10:38:01 AM
if so, i’d scrap it and go with transpo internal 1 wire regulator for the 2nd gen alt. just requires 12 volt switched to start charging. been on the kaiser for ~4k miles and even more idle time with no issue.
Post by: KensAuto on February 15, 2020, 03:49:03 PM
...plan to straighten out bugs, etc. and build a front diff at another time.
Post by: KensAuto on February 16, 2020, 10:33:36 PM
So now I have a china version. Oh well.
Going to try to stay with using parts like the radiator, hoses, etc from a second gen...in this case a '96 Dodge 3500.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200217/47d9890d3f18b2b63a9034e55a3408fa.jpg)
Post by: KensAuto on February 16, 2020, 10:41:08 PM
After buying an entire box of 3" pipes, clamps and couplers from the Amazon, I wasted 2 hours trying to mount the cooler to the right fender. It was fighting the future air cleaner and 2 coolant tanks for the same space.
It now resides on top of the engine, but not mounted yet. No pipes needed. Only 2 silicone couplers and a soon to be built intake stub.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200217/a10348f174eb7d3b3d31509cb106db29.jpg)
Post by: KensAuto on February 16, 2020, 10:48:04 PM
I'm not going to make this permanent until I get the transmission in, in case I need to move the engine.
First pic shows how tall it was before the modification, and if rotated clockwise the angle was way off, pointing down towards the valve cover.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200217/422050fdeb0a78c74f7752f1973fa4e6.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200217/4684ee008e8eb77606f87a052cf02da3.jpg)
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 17, 2020, 06:37:40 AM
Post by: Flyin6 on February 17, 2020, 12:17:29 PM
Post by: JR on February 17, 2020, 01:50:15 PM
2nd gen 3500 gm platform?
Post by: KensAuto on February 17, 2020, 08:35:53 PM
why water to air? limited space in the ‘73-‘80 core support? i’ve heard they’re smaller burb ever seen one first had to know for sure. where will the reservoir be? does it continuously flow?You're as bad as my.....
Well I suppose I've missed some of your thread also
Check out post #140-142.
I have 2 surge tanks ordered. One for the rad, and 1 for the cooler since I can't get to the cap for filling.
For now the electric water pump will run all the time, until I hook up a temp sensor somewhere.
JR, yes they work really well. Since I'm not going to tow long grades it should be fine... just less reliable I would think. ... electric water pump, extra hoses, extra radiator, etc.
This whole engine/trans setup is a 96 Dodge 3500, according to the P-pump numbers.
Thanks Don!
Post by: KensAuto on February 18, 2020, 08:20:44 PM
Next up is the air cleaner and plumbing the coolant hoses for the intercooler.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200219/a62cb679ebc81f31471b7b1e0c1e3c13.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200219/fb80529702990cdfe9aa24d87e4f3958.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200219/5f3aeaa24f4015957b667f84e4cf8582.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200219/46f7c8e8cb9c0a1fb5de22c890a7798b.jpg)
Post by: KensAuto on February 19, 2020, 06:06:08 PM
I forgot that the tailhousing had to be modified for the transfer case adapter, so that was the next purchase.
This is the kit from Advance Adapters.
The tailhousing has to be notched for the t/c shift shaft...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200219/aa3f9e10671507829447fef1e014344c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200219/52fc3a5f1f4dd56de28d375219a1cca8.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200219/c5fd2d057d14c4ab6d7b0d942ea6b36c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200219/813befdebe1995bc68b5950deab98781.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200219/c935ead8e3b5cc04fb62014282bd89ea.jpg)
Post by: KensAuto on February 19, 2020, 06:07:40 PM
Post by: KensAuto on February 19, 2020, 06:13:34 PM
(Just kidding for those that don't know how we joke around here)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200219/ed7cf83fbd59cbc2eb5f1536349ec821.jpg)
Post by: JR on February 19, 2020, 06:18:17 PM
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 19, 2020, 09:19:43 PM
....then 2 new holes drilled for the adapter. Once that was accomplished, it was sprayed with beige.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200219/a2ef0070a0717e574cf692c68ae8a063.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200219/2a5fe2e25baada6dda9a172accca27a3.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200219/17aaaeaa1e6285dcb5d4622b29f8a2b6.jpg)
we said no beige!! it’s only 50% likely to run now!! hahah
but.. i gotta admit. does look good.
Post by: JR on February 19, 2020, 10:08:12 PM
Post by: KensAuto on February 19, 2020, 10:49:24 PM
Pepperidge Farms remembers.
Post by: TexasRedNeck on February 20, 2020, 05:53:48 AM
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Post by: swbhobie16 on February 20, 2020, 06:05:36 AM
Come on Seth, you painted one that color...2 tone iirc.
Pepperidge Farms remembers.
i really do dig the color.
this whole build just oozes cool. clean. simple. to the point.
going to be one slick 1 ton when you get the 60 cleaned up and gone through. as it should have been from the factory. (while i liked my 1st gen cummins.. the square body chevy just looked better all the way around..)
Post by: Flyin6 on February 20, 2020, 08:46:42 AM
Post by: KensAuto on February 21, 2020, 09:55:57 PM
Post by: KensAuto on February 21, 2020, 10:04:18 PM
Post by: KensAuto on February 21, 2020, 10:14:42 PM
..and the trans is installed.
I used a 91 Chevy slave as opposed to staying with mid 80s, like the master, because the bolt pattern is wide enough to redrill to fit the nv4500 studs.
Only issue is it won't allow the bleeder to face upwards. I'll have to remove it to bleed but don't mind.
The preferred way would be to make an adapter for the earlier GM model like American Mike posted earlier, for the smaller bolt pattern, but this is the new me... time to wrap this up.
.. Dodge on the top. 91 Chevy on the rest, after drilling new holes.
Now I can order the correct length -3an hose...in this case 48".(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200222/e6824ca3f6e489a0e5126a7052ba1345.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200222/ea8c87940d604a7f2a219471839f59ae.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200222/37988fc216eef4851eb4e506bfe331b0.jpg)
Post by: KensAuto on February 21, 2020, 10:26:39 PM
To do this, it has to be completely disassembled and the input bearing bore machined out to 3.543", from about 3.150".
Today the Halloween themed 205 was taken apart in a careless fashion, with zero regard for the bearings, nuts, and my favorite hammer.
That took less time than it took to clear the workbench to make way for this cluster....
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Post by: KensAuto on February 21, 2020, 10:30:43 PM
... so I went ahead and did it anyway.
This is were it stands at the moment.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200222/63987e2c16812c011928e5cfbda7862e.jpg)
Post by: stlaser on February 21, 2020, 10:42:17 PM
And it’s just a boring bar, easy peasy :likebutton:
Post by: America.Mike on February 21, 2020, 11:11:30 PM
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Post by: KensAuto on February 22, 2020, 12:41:28 AM
Boy that transfer case I bought was much cleaner than the one you kept..... :tongue:Yeah, but you forget who's doing the boring!
And it’s just a boring bar, easy peasy :likebutton:
Oh, and you only got 1 out of the 2 Ford t/cs. I'll be robbing parts tomorrow. Got a couple rusted gears.
Thanks Mike.
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 22, 2020, 01:30:38 PM
Post by: KensAuto on February 22, 2020, 03:36:16 PM
Today I finished the bore and tore down a spare ford left hand drop 205 I got from the same owner of the 12v engines. It looks like it only had a few thousand miles on it when someone rebuilt it. I'll be using the gears and possibly bearings from it (USA timkens) instead of the new ones in the rebuild kit I purchased.
My gears are pretty rust/pitted.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200222/30dc1440ff09e7c04b8cbc35db686ad4.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200222/1f8a19731631e579be3b17f033182263.jpg)
Post by: KensAuto on February 22, 2020, 03:44:06 PM
I absolutely hated the front pinion on my tc. It was very difficult to remove the front driveline/CV joint because of bolt location.
The ford tc has a longer pinion ... better bolt access... so that should be an improvement.
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Post by: swbhobie16 on February 22, 2020, 09:08:38 PM
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 22, 2020, 09:14:05 PM
Post by: JR on February 22, 2020, 09:30:49 PM
Post by: KensAuto on February 22, 2020, 10:01:08 PM
that’s awesome. and aggravating. how much of the ford case are you using? just front and rear output? getting a new 29 spline input i take it.Everything except the case, speedometer drive (plastic...mine's metal) and input.. that came in the adapter kit.... that I had to bore the case for.
JR, I'm running a CV in the front driveline. It has threaded caps. If I have to replace it I'll go to a ubolt setup, or maybe a flange style.
The 29 spline input is still wrapped up in this pic.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200223/9a8b0a9949759b7beddf38452cbd6a43.jpg)
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 22, 2020, 10:29:47 PM
that’s awesome. and aggravating. how much of the ford case are you using? just front and rear output? getting a new 29 spline input i take it.Everything except the case, speedometer drive (plastic...mine's metal) and input.. that came in the adapter kit.... that I had to bore the case for.
JR, I'm running a CV in the front driveline. It has threaded caps. If I have to replace it I'll go to a ubolt setup, or maybe a flange style.
The 29 spline input is still wrapped up in this pic.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200223/9a8b0a9949759b7beddf38452cbd6a43.jpg)
very nice.
are the drive gears the same? (same groove count) that’s definitely something to consider as well as for tuning the speedo.
Post by: KensAuto on February 24, 2020, 09:07:07 PM
The '73 205 was cleaned, painted, and I sprayed some red oxide on the inside.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200225/e67e1de76b96f55d5be4f2c8369baf1b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200225/716251be282bf1b8cd2b7a383fbee228.jpg)
Post by: KensAuto on February 25, 2020, 11:43:48 AM
More useless info to absorb Don's monthly pixie allotment.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200225/f47bdc9641a103906f5049d5d5ae70b7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200225/8e878b4f526acdce1caed7e6728351a2.jpg)
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 25, 2020, 12:57:33 PM
:grin:
good to know for future reference
Post by: JR on February 25, 2020, 02:37:56 PM
can’t you just flip the gear over..?
:grin:
good to know for future reference
Still spins the same way,,,,,,,,
Post by: stlaser on February 25, 2020, 05:52:08 PM
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 25, 2020, 07:23:05 PM
can’t you just flip the gear over..?
‘twas a joke. i laughed to myself picturing everyone turning it over in their head and saying ‘it still spins the same way!’
:grin:
good to know for future reference
Still spins the same way,,,,,,,,
Post by: JR on February 25, 2020, 07:23:26 PM
Post by: stlaser on February 25, 2020, 07:47:34 PM
Had to bring H into it?
Absolutely, it’s been awhile plus I owed him for some detuned 24v comment
Post by: KensAuto on February 26, 2020, 10:14:25 PM
Post by: KensAuto on February 26, 2020, 10:24:30 PM
I had to download the version for a GM 4500 trans just to get a pic of how the tailhousing was supposed to look after cutting out the notch for the tc shift rail.
The box of parts included a piece of square tubing that has 4 holes that matches the pattern of the transmission mount, but no pics, nor explanation. It's about 1.5"... why would anyone want to raise the trans another 1.5"? My tc is already hanging way too low. More on that later.
Post by: KensAuto on February 26, 2020, 10:27:28 PM
Post by: stlaser on February 26, 2020, 10:27:48 PM
It looks good though! :likebutton:
Post by: KensAuto on February 26, 2020, 10:32:11 PM
Some 4" stainless exhaust scuffed up on the belt sander, a couple couplers, and a LS style air box . Drilled a couple holes in the inner fender for it to snap into, and almost done.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200227/bf8629feb472333815f82bcf87250a5f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200227/eecf3e3fa2691cebaa6c9fb1a31160bd.jpg)
Post by: KensAuto on February 26, 2020, 10:33:35 PM
As someone who manufactures clocking rings and np205 ones at that it’s for mall crawlers.......What you saying?
It looks good though! :likebutton:
If it's bad why wait for me to install it knucklehead!!
Post by: stlaser on February 26, 2020, 11:34:02 PM
As someone who manufactures clocking rings and np205 ones at that it’s for mall crawlers.......What you saying?
It looks good though! :likebutton:
If it's bad why wait for me to install it knucklehead!!
Sorry, no comprende this must be some backwards liberal logic.
Post by: JR on February 27, 2020, 01:16:54 AM
Does it flow enough air?
Post by: TexasRedNeck on February 27, 2020, 09:03:48 AM
5.9l x 3000 rpm = 17,700
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Post by: KensAuto on February 27, 2020, 11:00:34 AM
Just a rudimentary volume calculation would say yes. 5.3l x 5000 rpm = 26,500l.
5.9l x 3000 rpm = 17,700
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Thanks brainiac...
I went with the less precise redneck method. I ordered a Wix for a 6.0, the thick "H/D" one for a 5.3, with a wire mesh backing to keep it out of the turbo :), compared the size to my LML, and moved forward. I still need to trim off the inlets because they don't match up to the fender openings....and not going to cut the fender.
...and Shawn still didn't answer my question I see.
Is it because the plate is aluminum that makes it less than desirable? I have to use something to adapt the figure 8 style and retain the input bearing. Only stronger option I could see is to use the actual Dodge 205 so no adapter would be needed...?...
Post by: TexasRedNeck on February 27, 2020, 12:08:42 PM
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Post by: KensAuto on February 27, 2020, 02:39:00 PM
You’re welcome redneckI didn't mention the flaw in your math.
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It has to do with forced induction.
Post by: Farmer Jon on February 27, 2020, 03:01:19 PM
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Post by: JR on February 27, 2020, 04:43:35 PM
Post by: stlaser on February 27, 2020, 07:42:06 PM
Anyhow, no I don’t think the alum is an issue. Run it just brace the trans and t-case well and assume the connection is not a structural connection which they are not even oem setups. :likebutton:
Post by: KensAuto on February 27, 2020, 08:44:50 PM
Ken, I didn’t understand that was an actual question. Assumed you were blowing me more liberal logic.Rog.
Anyhow, no I don’t think the alum is an issue. Run it just brace the trans and t-case well and assume the connection is not a structural connection which they are not even oem setups. :likebutton:
Post by: KensAuto on February 27, 2020, 08:59:27 PM
Originally, I had set up the motor with the fan blade perpendicular to the radiator, without cutting the firewall. This gave the fan about 1/4" clearance. I absolutely will not run an electric fan on a truck. Call me old fashioned.
A before pic of the tc. From videos on the internet, mostly of 1 tons, it looks about right....but being a 3/4 ton, with a 6" tall frame (instead of 8" on the 1 tons), the tc looks weird....too low.... about 2" lower than original.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200228/7a1a7aae4dd2591e1172e91f041911fb.jpg)
Post by: KensAuto on February 27, 2020, 09:08:13 PM
After measuring from multiple points, I decided to pull the engine mounts to do some more slotting. The engine was moved back an additional 3/4", raised the tc almost 2", which opened up the firewall clearance again.
Not trying to write a book, but maybe these details will save someone a headache in the future.
Here's the after shot:
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Post by: KensAuto on February 27, 2020, 09:12:43 PM
I had to redrill the plate to move it forward to clear the new tc adapter.
Second pic is the 2" square tube mount spacer. ... don't have a clue how that would help make anything fit.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200228/43560e2c575720f886485b5552fdc8b7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200228/7e83406917c28df85bf66237d8784f6e.jpg)
Post by: KensAuto on February 27, 2020, 09:19:36 PM
... just cut out the large holes in the mount area and welded in a piece of 2" channel.
...then drilled new bolt holes in the frame, upsized to 1/2" with plates under the heads of the bolts.
Once this thing is driveable, I'll put it on the hoist and add some reenforcement.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200228/633c0844bb7cb73383f33cb860da8539.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200228/9b6aef4a451a26ed025f3b555962e321.jpg)
Post by: JR on February 27, 2020, 10:05:26 PM
Just make sure it has a nice skid plate (it was 1/4 thick) not like the bozo stamped unit we have on the dmax.
Post by: KensAuto on February 28, 2020, 07:58:17 PM
Got it in and ran through the gears to make sure the transmission worked. So far so good.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200229/9b8f57ad3c54868ee01374af22018f40.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200229/0d8afd454003812f8315b95753611d02.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200229/1d8c5d68f22f0d63cb557d02fd1f358b.jpg)
Post by: stlaser on February 28, 2020, 08:31:16 PM
Did t know you were qualified for such things.....
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 28, 2020, 08:32:57 PM
:likebutton:
Did t know you were qualified for such things.....
no one said he was qualified. he just did it.. :laugh:
Post by: Bob Smith on February 28, 2020, 08:54:18 PM
Post by: KensAuto on February 28, 2020, 10:46:22 PM
:likebutton:I redlined the motor in 5th gear on jack stands and it didn't blow up and my teeth didn't fall out, is that good enough? Lol
Did t know you were qualified for such things.....
Post by: JR on February 28, 2020, 11:56:19 PM
Post by: KensAuto on February 29, 2020, 01:19:01 AM
Post by: JR on February 29, 2020, 01:27:06 AM
Oh I did JR. Was more worried about the dry rotted swampers disintegrating tho.
But no pics or video, right??
Post by: KensAuto on February 29, 2020, 09:29:23 PM
Rebuilt the steering gear while I was there so I could reinstall the column.
Bled and adjusted the brakes. Threw the front tires on, and installed a new slave reservoir. Also built a temporary downpipe that points at the ground.
...and finally test drove it. First time in a few years. I missed the ol girl.
Next up, plumbing the intercooler once I receive a different surge tank, hopefully one that fits. (3rd one I've ordered).(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200301/cfd718f9e06d4bd30b0189d9566fa925.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200301/b849585da47b0134a28345f9c315bc72.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200301/6d06be80d3efe51887878898168241f8.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200301/93ee883f3e21932b2eac9408567095f3.jpg)
Post by: KensAuto on February 29, 2020, 09:35:25 PM
She has a horrible amount of vibration, even for a Cummins. Feels like the engine is sitting on the dash. It didn't do that when I was running it without the transmission so I'll have to figure it out.
..but man the brakes and clutch are pretty awesome. It's never felt that good. P/s is better also, even with the added weight.
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 01, 2020, 07:52:57 AM
Yes, I'm replacing the Pontiac blue wiper motor..
She has a horrible amount of vibration, even for a Cummins. Feels like the engine is sitting on the dash. It didn't do that when I was running it without the transmission so I'll have to figure it out.
..but man the brakes and clutch are pretty awesome. It's never felt that good. P/s is better also, even with the added weight.
for the vibration.. i don’t remember exactly how you mounted the trans to the cross member. was there a factory bushing or did you just bolt it right to the trans crossmember.
i know on my dads we bolted a piece of 2” channel to the trans that extended out wider than the trans bolt holes and used essentially 2 thick round body bushings about 8” apart (for twist stability and vibration dampening..)
Post by: KensAuto on March 02, 2020, 09:08:28 PM
When I moved the engine back, and raised the tc up, I should've looked for interference on top of the bellhousing.
:rollseyes
... that was fun to fix, but it's quite smooth now.
Here's my high tech temporary downpipe. I have a 4" on order.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200303/c7415f4f710c3b6f3f9c847c7c23821e.jpg)
Post by: KensAuto on March 02, 2020, 09:16:17 PM
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 03, 2020, 06:10:44 AM
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Post by: swbhobie16 on March 03, 2020, 07:56:03 AM
I also drove this thing home yesterday, about 10 miles. It was very lackluster.. sounded great but acted like the turbo wasn't lighting off. I was quite disappointed, so today I hooked up a boost gauge and threw some cleaner in the fuel. My employee went along on a test drive since he has more experience with turbos, and on the 2nd hard acceleration something happened and it smoked the tires in 3rd, about 35mph. Don't know what caused it, and really don't care. Now I'm happy with it.
it probably pulled the 5.3 filter through the box and ate it :grin:
either way.. good to hear.
does the truck have a waste gate? maybe it was stuck slightly open and needed a good beating on to loosen up.
Post by: stlaser on March 03, 2020, 07:57:50 AM
Post by: KensAuto on March 03, 2020, 08:24:45 AM
That's what I was originally thinking but it wasn't smoking. I think something was going on with fuel. Injection pump maybe.I also drove this thing home yesterday, about 10 miles. It was very lackluster.. sounded great but acted like the turbo wasn't lighting off. I was quite disappointed, so today I hooked up a boost gauge and threw some cleaner in the fuel. My employee went along on a test drive since he has more experience with turbos, and on the 2nd hard acceleration something happened and it smoked the tires in 3rd, about 35mph. Don't know what caused it, and really don't care. Now I'm happy with it.
it probably pulled the 5.3 filter through the box and ate it :grin:
either way.. good to hear.
does the truck have a waste gate? maybe it was stuck slightly open and needed a good beating on to loosen up.
Funny you mentioned air filter. That was pulled out and a Dmax version installed. It has less pleats, but made zero difference. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200303/7d2afe18dc1ae710ec20cd9eff800260.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200303/d2f5f4197c5ca4037c4a9ef0f5145303.jpg)
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 03, 2020, 08:40:05 AM
glad she’s all good now though.
Post by: KensAuto on March 03, 2020, 09:03:56 PM
So we went unconventional... exhaust studs and nuts sourced from my parts house.
The rear mudflap hides it anyway.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200304/284c8fafb44a1a4d50733aad67910138.jpg)
Post by: KensAuto on March 03, 2020, 09:06:56 PM
Started on the water to air plumbing again. This is the 3rd surge tank I've tried, and still have to modify it.
More on that tomorrow.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200304/fd1d04e92e8c2cec912f862b7a6bf164.jpg)
Post by: JR on March 03, 2020, 09:49:15 PM
Post by: KensAuto on March 03, 2020, 10:13:16 PM
How much water does the system use?I have no idea. Maybe a gallon with the amount of hose I'm using?.. maybe a little more
Post by: JR on March 03, 2020, 10:14:44 PM
Post by: KensAuto on March 03, 2020, 10:25:47 PM
Post by: stlaser on March 03, 2020, 10:48:49 PM
Replaced the rear diff cover today. Had ordered some correct length, 5/16, black studs. My favorite vehicle of 30+ years and didn't realize I needed 3/8".
So we went unconventional... exhaust studs and nuts sourced from my parts house.
The rear mudflap hides it anyway.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200304/284c8fafb44a1a4d50733aad67910138.jpg)
Looking good :likebutton:
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 04, 2020, 06:50:42 AM
Post by: KensAuto on March 04, 2020, 08:36:32 AM
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 04, 2020, 08:38:27 AM
Firestone. Don't know what number it was.
perfect. that’s the kit i was looking at too.
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 04, 2020, 08:40:53 AM
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Post by: KensAuto on March 04, 2020, 08:52:14 PM
The reason for the tank in the first place is because the cooler's small radiator has a cap that's inaccessible, and also lower than the cooler.
Since I have a taller, cowl induction style hood, I decided to mount the tank above the fuel filter.
.. this required some mods to the tank.
I cut off the bottom bung first, and welded it shut. Then took a 3/4" aluminum ac line and made a nipple that points towards the firewall.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200305/cc0c6f5f2e461c4e96a978f07d50aad2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200305/c916e413531bcb59640133c0896f8b2b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200305/b4e4acabaf6b89229cafe78c13b74cd1.jpg)
Post by: KensAuto on March 04, 2020, 08:55:30 PM
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Post by: KensAuto on March 04, 2020, 08:57:03 PM
Post by: KensAuto on March 04, 2020, 09:00:56 PM
Once the air was purged, she held right at 6.5 qts JR.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200305/f5aec3efbea4dcbf7c8bb6c306c041a3.jpg)
Post by: JR on March 04, 2020, 09:48:40 PM
Did a little reading on it yesterday, seems very efficient.
Post by: KensAuto on March 04, 2020, 10:30:09 PM
Basically the same as what Nick put in Don's suburban for the SC.
Post by: Flyin6 on March 05, 2020, 08:34:15 AM
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 05, 2020, 09:28:27 AM
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Post by: KensAuto on March 05, 2020, 09:46:51 AM
Post by: EL TATE on March 05, 2020, 10:13:24 AM
Post by: JR on March 05, 2020, 10:51:48 AM
The cooling fan cools it. It has its own radiator in front of the condenser.
Basically the same as what Nick put in Don's suburban for the SC.
Guess I missed that, just a smaller more eff system.
Post by: KensAuto on March 05, 2020, 11:14:17 AM
lol, funny how that works huh?Haha. I knew it was going to happen yet I still had to drive it home yesterday. At least it was a back one.
Post by: Flyin6 on March 05, 2020, 12:52:46 PM
Dang swampers won't last 20 years(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200305/cc324e2c7f8bb3b1b7b9497c2c19e8bb.jpg)The junk they sell these days, well, those days
;-)
Post by: KensAuto on March 05, 2020, 08:09:16 PM
Have some cheapo Hercules MTs on order. Probably going to burn them off anyway.
..but did fix the 4wd shifter today. The adapter kit did not mention anything about this issue.
Just made a new linkage. ..new one on the right. Works ok, but still need a front driveline.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200306/1c6d2367e66205dffaa0c2e43518c297.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200306/388f44df73ef1e332203711bd6ed5bf4.jpg)
Post by: Sammconn on March 05, 2020, 09:08:57 PM
:knucklehead:
Post by: stlaser on March 05, 2020, 09:58:41 PM
Priced some radial swamper replacements today. That's not going to happen.... about 100 more a piece than what I paid in the 20th century.
Have some cheapo Hercules MTs on order. Probably going to burn them off anyway.
..but did fix the 4wd shifter today. The adapter kit did not mention anything about this issue.
Just made a new linkage. ..new one on the right. Works ok, but still need a front driveline.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200306/1c6d2367e66205dffaa0c2e43518c297.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200306/388f44df73ef1e332203711bd6ed5bf4.jpg)
Ford superduty f250/f350 99-04 (possibly newer) had 1350 cv front shafts FYI
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 05, 2020, 10:09:38 PM
Post by: JR on March 05, 2020, 10:13:32 PM
Not a long highway truck and you wan traction, right.
Post by: KensAuto on March 05, 2020, 10:21:49 PM
Shawn, will it work on the 44? Or just the 60? Don't they have a flange tc mount?
Post by: stlaser on March 05, 2020, 11:23:38 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on March 06, 2020, 09:39:12 PM
Why name brand? Don is happy with his tires, my maxxis are doing great too.X2 on that. These cheapo Federals are frikin great. I was commenting tonight to my wife on the way home from date night how nice they ride...now 6,000 miles into the tread compound
Not a long highway truck and you wan traction, right.
Post by: Flyin6 on March 06, 2020, 09:42:03 PM
I hear you guys but it's hard to beat swampers in desert, rocky terrain. Granted, the ol girl probably will be stuck in mulch beds along with big D from now on....Amen to that!
Shawn, will it work on the 44? Or just the 60? Don't they have a flange tc mount?
I think I've said before that Swampers were the Special Forces guys fav tires for their modded Hummers. Look cool too on a jacked up HMMV
Post by: KensAuto on March 06, 2020, 10:04:59 PM
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Post by: KensAuto on March 06, 2020, 10:11:34 PM
It was sliced and diced, partially wrapped near the transfer case, and installed.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200307/e47141bb2c53dae69654df6e0d5e4727.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200307/8a58bae29c5250f731807d1d994c20c4.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200307/0acca85861e68e9b5d0ec3b0ee2a33c5.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200307/56ebb861909704f462027c507af18298.jpg)
Post by: KensAuto on March 06, 2020, 10:19:45 PM
...FYI $920 out the door.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200307/49a7d4cbb05736b66e268ceb6fe5ef3e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200307/228bf171d66d973d78f27f26abb4b36a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200307/33550942d73e22320a096d723cd4179b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200307/6cc3d1d934510c56742787ceb56c1efa.jpg)
Post by: stlaser on March 07, 2020, 08:04:19 AM
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 08, 2020, 06:42:06 PM
Post by: KensAuto on March 08, 2020, 09:38:55 PM
for sure. i dig that rear bumper. any more pics of it?Post numeral uno.
It didn't originally have the snowbird mudflap. I'm one of the only people I know that actually got a ticket for no flaps. ...along with exhibition of speed, open headers, no tags, and improper use of a turning lane. (was smoking tires in the middle of the main drag). Still let me drive it home tho.
Post by: Bob Smith on March 08, 2020, 10:18:48 PM
Post by: KensAuto on March 08, 2020, 10:36:25 PM
But man was it ever fun. Kids anyway :popcorn:Still is Bob!
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 09, 2020, 07:40:32 AM
was this something you did in HS shop class or was it post purchase at some point?
Post by: KensAuto on March 09, 2020, 09:36:55 PM
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 10, 2020, 08:00:55 AM
Post by: KensAuto on March 10, 2020, 09:02:08 AM
Edit: I lied. It is bolted to the bed sides, with rubber spacers.
Post by: KensAuto on March 10, 2020, 09:25:08 PM
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Post by: KensAuto on March 10, 2020, 09:31:27 PM
..so I did what any good mechanic would do, I turned the a/c off and started fitting the hood so I could literally cover up the problem.
Just trimmed a little to clear the intercooler surge tank.
Also reinstalled the grill, then drove home with the windows down.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200311/be783a3df4db04edb8e5a6da10a2877d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200311/6c1aff907290ce1819b41cd8182a1e32.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200311/5e0d70901a760a7ec37bfc4776d3effb.jpg)
Post by: wyorunner on March 11, 2020, 07:03:34 PM
Post by: KensAuto on March 11, 2020, 09:17:06 PM
You guys get settled in? Been wondering if maybe they don't have internet over there
Post by: Sammconn on March 12, 2020, 12:18:12 AM
Something must be wrong here.
Well done Ken! Looks good.
Post by: wyorunner on March 12, 2020, 02:12:34 AM
Thanks!We were settled by mid January! Had a house and a tacoMa in December, all our belongings showed up on Jan 2. And yes they do indeed have internet! I just opted to take some time off interneting while she was without a seat to sit in at work and was home most of the time! Was a wonderful couple months!
You guys get settled in? Been wondering if maybe they don't have internet over there
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 12, 2020, 07:18:52 AM
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Post by: KensAuto on March 12, 2020, 11:34:31 PM
What...it’s swapped .... and running .... under its own power.... 13 pages.I tried to do it so fast that no one would have time to DOT it up!
Something must be wrong here.
Well done Ken! Looks good.
Post by: Flyin6 on March 13, 2020, 09:56:07 AM
Post by: KensAuto on March 13, 2020, 07:24:06 PM
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 13, 2020, 08:52:23 PM
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Post by: JR on March 13, 2020, 09:21:15 PM
Post by: KensAuto on March 13, 2020, 10:11:23 PM
Nice! Looks like you cleaned it up tooNaw, we got one heck of a storm this afternoon. Worse than anything we got in the monsoons last year. Weird
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Post by: KensAuto on March 26, 2020, 10:08:05 PM
Post by: KensAuto on March 26, 2020, 10:13:43 PM
I should've bought a kit. You won't hear me say that very often, but would've been as cheap and a heck of a lot less frustration.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200327/b0cd749093108ba9dec0b6a870511c83.jpg)
Post by: KensAuto on March 26, 2020, 10:28:30 PM
Long story shorter; I ended up welding the upper tensioner solid, buying a Cummins tensioner, and building a bracket to locate it under the alternator, upside down in the factory location. It uses a countersunk bolt in the original tensioner mount hole, and 2 of the lower compressor mount holes. (Not fun to get perpendicular)
So a list of parts I ended up with: 5 idler pulleys of various sizes and materials (plastic and steel), 2 tensioners, 6 belts, and 11 busted knuckles.
Hard to get a finished pic, but it finally works!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200327/c0721c0db7f9af2f2ae7dcc9ac401880.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200327/66c610e02cc63137a8b5ccfb83d4c31d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200327/22ab5c9a75b356d53bf1834c3fdf41e0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200327/377221040281e8da196de703c5278140.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200327/0a0df069fda36493d8409dd5592b41d6.jpg)
Post by: stlaser on March 26, 2020, 10:45:03 PM
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 26, 2020, 10:51:31 PM
11 huh? Somehow got your wanker somewhere it shouldn’t have been again? :huh:
hahah
but yes. i bet a kit would have been quicker/most cost effective
Post by: KensAuto on March 27, 2020, 01:10:05 AM
11 huh? Somehow got your wanker somewhere it shouldn’t have been again? :huh:At least someone got it
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 27, 2020, 06:25:33 AM
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Post by: KensAuto on March 28, 2020, 09:43:40 PM
That looks like a Rube Goldberg machine....Isn't she dead by now?
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Might as well continue this thread.
Ordered, and received, some Dakota rtx series gauges. I went this route because they are expandable, utilizing the 2 displays in the speedo and tach gauges for a multitude of inputs. In my case boost and egts.
The cluster has one larger module that excepts most of the inputs.
I started by cutting off the original cluster connector and marking the wires, then soldering in longer wires to reach the new module.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200329/98bbd2ac0eb9d27abce0d0873688c38f.jpg)
Post by: KensAuto on March 28, 2020, 09:54:55 PM
I hooked up a "W" wire in the alternator for an rpm reference.
Random pics of the process and 4 modules. I ended up using Velcro to stack them up behind the radio.... good part is that they are all Bluetooth , although later I found out that the tach converter requires you to push a button on it to enter programming. No biggy. Once it's set it's done.
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Post by: KensAuto on March 28, 2020, 09:56:53 PM
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 28, 2020, 09:57:58 PM
Post by: KensAuto on March 28, 2020, 10:10:45 PM
Right now I have the color set to white for daytime and green for night.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200329/ff7e6f18207dc37a0741ef840f6287db.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200329/0fd1261547d8072a2e03d1a6b4542232.jpg)
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Post by: swbhobie16 on March 28, 2020, 10:19:18 PM
hahah
Post by: KensAuto on March 28, 2020, 10:21:54 PM
i think i’m going to be running these gauges in the dmax. let me know when you get it all together and/or how you like the module add ons.I didn't enjoy trying to stuff that much wiring in the dash, and it's too bad all of those add-ons weren't integrated into the cluster, but I understand why.
Also the Bluetooth is slow, and only works once you manually put the cluster in setup mode with a corded switch you have to mount to the dash.
I do like how you program the speedo, by measuring a mile (auto mode) or using GPS (manual mode) and you have to do that within the first 100 miles or it locks you out (I think). Easy.
...and it gives preset options for the fuel sender resistance for each of the different years for gm, and Ford's, etc.
It's pretty trick imo.
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Post by: swbhobie16 on March 28, 2020, 10:24:49 PM
i think i’m going to be running these gauges in the dmax. let me know when you get it all together and/or how you like the module add ons.I didn't enjoy trying to stuff that much wiring in the dash, and it's too bad all of those add-ons weren't integrated into the cluster, but I understand why.
Also the Bluetooth is slow, and only works once you manually put the cluster in setup mode with a corded switch you have to mount to the dash.
I do like how you program the speedo, by measuring a mile (auto mode) or using GPS (manual mode) and you have to do that within the first 100 miles or it locks you out (I think). Easy.
...and it gives preset options for the fuel sender resistance for each of the different years for gm, and Ford's, etc.
It's pretty trick imo.
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hot damn. that’s what i’m talking about.
i thought it was slick that they have an option for plugging in to the OBDII for the LBZ.. but with all the add ons and options.. i’m more than sold
Post by: KensAuto on March 28, 2020, 10:27:47 PM
Post by: KensAuto on March 28, 2020, 10:29:09 PM
Didn't you help Turner install some of these? I don't remember looking at them but thought they were Dakota.i think i’m going to be running these gauges in the dmax. let me know when you get it all together and/or how you like the module add ons.I didn't enjoy trying to stuff that much wiring in the dash, and it's too bad all of those add-ons weren't integrated into the cluster, but I understand why.
Also the Bluetooth is slow, and only works once you manually put the cluster in setup mode with a corded switch you have to mount to the dash.
I do like how you program the speedo, by measuring a mile (auto mode) or using GPS (manual mode) and you have to do that within the first 100 miles or it locks you out (I think). Easy.
...and it gives preset options for the fuel sender resistance for each of the different years for gm, and Ford's, etc.
It's pretty trick imo.
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hot damn. that’s what i’m talking about.
i thought it was slick that they have an option for plugging in to the OBDII for the LBZ.. but with all the add ons and options.. i’m more than sold
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 29, 2020, 08:09:21 AM
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 29, 2020, 08:13:20 AM
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Post by: KensAuto on March 29, 2020, 10:44:44 AM
Looks really slick Ken. Now paint that steering columnQuit giving me more work!
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Post by: Flyin6 on March 29, 2020, 06:56:34 PM
Me wants a square bodee!
Post by: KensAuto on March 29, 2020, 07:53:24 PM
I like that gage cluster!Do it! You don't have anything else to do, right?
Me wants a square bodee!
Post by: KensAuto on March 30, 2020, 10:37:18 PM
I took the sensor off of the transfer case and found something less than perfect. They used a piece cut off of the end of a speedometer cable, just shoved into the sensor...no glue or anything.
Now it's epoxied and works again.
Pretty shoddy considering how nice this system looks. Hopefully the last issue.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200331/d9160b4d51000dd8e3e7fe470a581d8c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200331/304792e1a7e7c4d03408a8ddc64d463c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200331/6b1cb16f8cdcdd01542737514fb99b44.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200331/bf302a96187acd5a0716bbf70218f871.jpg)
Post by: wyorunner on April 02, 2020, 02:32:00 AM
Had a problem with the speedometer after driving about 3 miles.
I took the sensor off of the transfer case and found something less than perfect. They used a piece cut off of the end of a speedometer cable, just shoved into the sensor...no glue or anything.
Now it's epoxied and works again.
Pretty shoddy considering how nice this system looks. Hopefully the last issue.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200331/d9160b4d51000dd8e3e7fe470a581d8c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200331/304792e1a7e7c4d03408a8ddc64d463c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200331/6b1cb16f8cdcdd01542737514fb99b44.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200331/bf302a96187acd5a0716bbf70218f871.jpg)
Interesting! My gauges were from auto meter not Dakota... for a couple reasons, but first... my speedo cable has a small piece like this that goes between the sensor in the T case and the cable, but it is just a piece of steel not cable, so a small plus.
Now, Dakota does not serve dodge much (nor does anybody for that matter) so I opted to get something that we could make work. SWBhobie actually made the dash plate from a piece of aluminum stock since of course there is no factory option for that truck. It has five physical gauges, two that are 3 3/8” one has the speedo and tach, the other has oil pressure, water temp, fuel gauge, volts, then we have three 2 1/16” gauges; boost, egt, trans temp. So in all, there’s a pile of wires going every which where behind the dash.
You’re more than welcome to go get the truck from storage if you’d like
Post by: stlaser on April 02, 2020, 10:11:21 AM
Post by: America.Mike on April 02, 2020, 10:20:23 AM
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Post by: KensAuto on April 02, 2020, 09:07:51 PM
Dunno why I thought you had Dakota Wyo. Possibly too much whiskey.
Thanks Mike... and yes you do!! Haha
Post by: stlaser on April 02, 2020, 09:38:30 PM
Post by: KensAuto on April 03, 2020, 09:18:45 PM
Also cleaned up the grill and headlight surrounds.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200404/4fde32a986481945e9936e223545b9ea.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200404/c24ed8ebbe6d405969f3bc23cdb83820.jpg)
Post by: TexasRedNeck on April 03, 2020, 09:32:28 PM
Just for Charles:Cratered to peer pressure
Also cleaned up the grill and headlight surrounds.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200404/4fde32a986481945e9936e223545b9ea.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200404/c24ed8ebbe6d405969f3bc23cdb83820.jpg)
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Post by: stlaser on April 03, 2020, 10:30:54 PM
Post by: KensAuto on April 03, 2020, 11:45:34 PM
Post by: stlaser on April 03, 2020, 11:54:42 PM
It's on the slab with the cover off letting the rust breath. :(
:huh: Must be an Arizona thing.....
Post by: cruizng on April 04, 2020, 05:21:16 PM
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Post by: KensAuto on April 04, 2020, 07:56:31 PM
Post by: KensAuto on April 20, 2020, 09:06:04 PM
I've been saving a Dana 60, out of a dually, for this truck for about 14 years, assuming it was in good shape. It's not, and I'm not going to rebuilt it right now.
...but I will steal the 1-1/4" sway bar off of it to replace my smaller one, using poly bushings. Also replaced all the shocks, and front leaf spring bushings.
Just trying to get this thing to ride better. It's always been stupid rough.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200421/9ac5954090ec28c99e3f5094ef16b865.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200421/4480ee5dcde85c40ac73ca354f8082f5.jpg)
Post by: stlaser on April 20, 2020, 09:21:40 PM
Post by: JR on April 20, 2020, 10:49:14 PM
Like the green dash lights and hood. I had a low profile FG hood on my 77, wonder if that would fit the cummings though.
Post by: TexasRedNeck on April 21, 2020, 07:43:42 AM
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Post by: KensAuto on April 21, 2020, 09:47:09 AM
Tear the leaf packs apart and graphite paint them all separately and reinstallThat's the next step. The rear ones are horrendous. Driving around with a spare for the 5 ton at the moment.
Charles, the Cummins was making the front sloppy (worse than before). Main problem is out back....I should've specified.
Post by: JR on April 21, 2020, 03:37:57 PM
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Post by: KensAuto on April 21, 2020, 09:38:55 PM
I don't really want to change them because I know what kind of load they are capable of handling, compared to my '12 GMC ...
... I've hauled about 7k in the bed multiple times, without bags, back in the day (truck weighed 5600 pre-cummins)
Post by: KensAuto on May 21, 2020, 12:37:12 PM
Driving home a couple weeks ago it stuck in 5th, then neutral.
So the transmission came back out.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200521/1500627c55779b491b5d3d4d0ef986bb.jpg)
Post by: KensAuto on May 21, 2020, 12:43:21 PM
I replaced that gear because of some wear where the shoes fit, the fork, and the slider. Feels much better now... just have to make time to reinstall.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200521/5a894c5159d405a503e9d2ab8f079b12.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200521/7009c7e11314356df29ce095940b8593.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200521/72a6a161da9592a249f7b48423373dda.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200521/f545a87d156af67d6a6133ee27b8adf6.jpg)