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Re: Car Hauler Trailer Build
« Reply #150 on: August 22, 2017, 09:33:02 PM »
Got all the cross members welded in now. Hitch mount is welded in place enough so that I can flip the trailer. Just need to weld the cross members the rest of the way around, and the inside of the corners, and along the wrapped tongue.  Rounded some sharp corners on the spring mounts and the frame corners as well. After that I can wire and paint the bottom, woohoo!




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Re: Car Hauler Trailer Build
« Reply #151 on: August 22, 2017, 09:48:12 PM »
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« Reply #152 on: August 22, 2017, 10:10:30 PM »
Looking good. Definitely got some heat in the cross members.
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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Re: Car Hauler Trailer Build
« Reply #153 on: August 22, 2017, 11:57:45 PM »
What you gonna paint it with?
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« Reply #154 on: August 23, 2017, 07:19:32 AM »
What you gonna paint it with?

I haven't decided for sure yet to be honest. I'm thinking maybe tractor/implement paint, as my brother works at a New Holland dealership. Still trying to figure out how much paint I need. I'm thinking a gallon would do it?

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« Reply #155 on: August 23, 2017, 08:09:18 AM »
I used the Rust-Oleum brand tractor paint.  I gallon should be plenty. 

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« Reply #156 on: August 23, 2017, 08:58:47 AM »
I've got some leftover interior wall paint in a nice light purple if you're interested.  Trailer frame is looking great!

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« Reply #157 on: August 23, 2017, 12:20:15 PM »
I used the Rust-Oleum brand tractor paint.  I gallon should be plenty.

Did you spray it on or roll/brush it on? I've talked to some people who used narrow rollers and liked it better than sprayed.

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« Reply #158 on: August 23, 2017, 12:26:32 PM »
I sprayed it.  Rolling might be OK for the outside rails but it would be a major PITA to get inside the channels and in all the corners etc..

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« Reply #159 on: August 23, 2017, 12:44:52 PM »
I don't see how you could roll your build and get everything. All square tubing sure and less mess.

You can get an HVLP gun for under $10 at HF.
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« Reply #160 on: August 23, 2017, 01:03:24 PM »
Yeah, I was planning on spraying. I've got a HVLP gun I bought on sale I'm looking to try out.

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« Reply #161 on: August 23, 2017, 06:01:07 PM »
One gallon plenty.
I brushed mine due to using the loading bay at work.
And it was tube.
To do it again HVLP for sure.
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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« Reply #162 on: September 11, 2017, 08:42:11 AM »
Well I got the welding done that I can do while the trailer is upside down, so now I have to come up with a clever way to flip this thing over. I'm thinking I may put a dolly under the end of it, and pull it out to the grass with the Kubota, and then just flip it over on the grass. Once it's right Side up I can put the axles/wheels on and then just back it into the garage again.

I thought I might be able to flip it over without removing it from the garage, but that might just lead to disaster and wreck something.

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Re: Car Hauler Trailer Build
« Reply #163 on: September 11, 2017, 09:29:18 PM »
um...yeah.  flip it outside. Away from farm animals and small children...
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« Reply #164 on: September 11, 2017, 09:32:58 PM »
How do you plan to flip it.  When I built the 4 place at trailer in high school I flipped it with about 10 people during class.  Then later I flipped it again with a chain around the outside rail and a wheel loader.

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Re: Car Hauler Trailer Build
« Reply #165 on: September 12, 2017, 08:11:35 PM »
Got er flipped! Drug it out of the garage. Lifted one side up about 30" with the engine hoist, put a long strap on the top of the trailer and on the loader of the tractor. Once the tractor took the weight off the hoist, I removed it, then pulled it over with the tractor!

Got the springs, axles and wheel on now, so putting it back in the garage should be much easier now!


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« Reply #166 on: September 12, 2017, 09:09:21 PM »
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« Reply #167 on: September 12, 2017, 09:47:33 PM »
Where there's a will, there's a way.
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« Reply #168 on: September 12, 2017, 10:25:23 PM »
Looking good!


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Re: Car Hauler Trailer Build
« Reply #169 on: September 13, 2017, 09:20:22 PM »
I was just noticing I have less than 2" of clearance between axles and frame. I could do a spring over, but that will raise it more than I'd like or need. I may just get taller front and rear shackles and taller equalizers, it would be good for 1 or 1.5" more clearance, which would be nice.


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Re: Car Hauler Trailer Build
« Reply #170 on: September 13, 2017, 11:11:02 PM »
I was just noticing I have less than 2" of clearance between axles and frame. I could do a spring over, but that will raise it more than I'd like or need. I may just get taller front and rear shackles and taller equalizers, it would be good for 1 or 1.5" more clearance, which would be nice.

load it light........ :popcorn:
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Re: Car Hauler Trailer Build
« Reply #171 on: September 13, 2017, 11:22:53 PM »
Might be easier to get new springs with a better arch.
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Re: Car Hauler Trailer Build
« Reply #172 on: September 14, 2017, 07:19:34 AM »
This is what it looks like.


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« Reply #173 on: September 14, 2017, 07:41:04 AM »
Might be easier to get new springs with a better arch.

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Re: Car Hauler Trailer Build
« Reply #174 on: September 14, 2017, 08:19:49 AM »
I ran into the same problem when I initially built mine.
I took spring perches off, and shortened shackles. I the end it was maybe not enough.
Over the few years I ran these I bent three axles.

If you take the spring perches off the top carefully, and it will gain you a half inch or so.

I'm now resprung with 6k springs and axles.
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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Re: Car Hauler Trailer Build
« Reply #175 on: September 14, 2017, 02:42:41 PM »
Might be easier to get new springs with a better arch.

X2^^^^^

I thought about this, but these are the only springs I can get locally without trying to find some online.

I thought about the higher equalizer and hangers since the whole suspension is only bolted on finger tight right now, and the hangers are only half welded on currently.
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« Reply #176 on: September 14, 2017, 04:01:08 PM »
Cut the hangers & space them down, cheapest fix. A little work but not that much just use solid 2" block don't use tube spacers or build longer hangers & box open ends (even better imo)
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« Reply #177 on: September 14, 2017, 04:07:47 PM »
I have 3 5/8" hanger straps now, so I thought it might be worth trying shorter 2 1/4" hanger straps and seeing if that brings the axles away from the frame enough. Barring that I'll put spacers under front, center and rear hangers as you suggested.

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« Reply #178 on: September 14, 2017, 09:55:17 PM »
I have 3 5/8" hanger straps now, so I thought it might be worth trying shorter 2 1/4" hanger straps and seeing if that brings the axles away from the frame enough. Barring that I'll put spacers under front, center and rear hangers as you suggested.

That may be enough in addition to cutting that upper spring mount pad off the axle.
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« Reply #179 on: September 14, 2017, 10:56:32 PM »
 Sounds like a lot of work for 1 1/2-2 inches.

Make it simple, just mount the axle on the bottom. Unless you really need it as low as it is.

Plus those springs will break in some and flatten out.
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« Reply #180 on: September 15, 2017, 04:23:16 PM »
Just get rid of the springs for air ride suspension. Raise it as needed lol


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« Reply #181 on: September 15, 2017, 05:34:53 PM »
Just get rid of the springs for air ride suspension. Raise it or lower as needed lol


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« Reply #182 on: September 22, 2017, 12:06:47 AM »
Di you get it painted?


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« Reply #183 on: September 22, 2017, 04:17:18 PM »
Di you get it painted?


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Not yet, gotta get stake pockets welded on, and weld the tongue jack.

The biggest holdup is deciding what to weld on for ramps. Can't decide if I should go with ones that are basically always attached and flip up, or ones that are detachable and stored under the trailer.

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Re: Car Hauler Trailer Build
« Reply #184 on: September 22, 2017, 07:48:50 PM »
I would go with the stored under type, out of the way when not needed.

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« Reply #185 on: September 22, 2017, 11:43:10 PM »
Definitely stored under. They will definitely be in the way more than you think, and it's hard to haul long vehicles with tip up ramps (like trucks)

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« Reply #186 on: September 23, 2017, 02:31:59 PM »
Slide in only. There when you need em, out of the way when not needed, don't need tying down and long loads are no issues.
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« Reply #187 on: September 25, 2017, 11:01:50 AM »
Very good point and advice! Detachable ramps it is!

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« Reply #188 on: September 28, 2017, 09:16:27 PM »
Stake pockets welded on! Thinking about the best thing to go across the end of the trailer for the ramps to hook into. Perhaps flat bar with spacers every couple feet? Perhaps 1" angle that is 3/16" thick?

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« Reply #189 on: September 28, 2017, 09:27:50 PM »
Stake pockets welded on! Thinking about the best thing to go across the end of the trailer for the ramps to hook into. Perhaps flat bar with spacers every couple feet? Perhaps 1" angle that is 3/16" thick?

I would do the angle & every so often weld a small tab inside to keep it solid. You can always notch ramp hooks to miss them for more adjustability
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« Reply #190 on: September 28, 2017, 09:42:13 PM »
I got a piece of 6" wide 1/4" flat to run across the entire rear end.  I spaced it about 2" off the rear most cross member with some angle.  The ramps hook into it and my lights are cut into it.  I ran main rail a little long to do this though too.

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« Reply #191 on: September 28, 2017, 09:46:40 PM »
Not the best picture but might give you an idea of what I did.



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« Reply #192 on: September 29, 2017, 10:06:49 AM »
Stake pockets welded on! Thinking about the best thing to go across the end of the trailer for the ramps to hook into. Perhaps flat bar with spacers every couple feet? Perhaps 1" angle that is 3/16" thick?

I would do the angle & every so often weld a small tab inside to keep it solid. You can always notch ramp hooks to miss them for more adjustability

I'm thinking this might be the easiest. Might drill a hole every foot or two so water can drain as well.

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« Reply #193 on: September 30, 2017, 06:54:45 PM »
Found some 3/8" flat bar in the scrap pile at the farm, so decided to use that. I think it will be ok. I left a space of 24" in the middle, as I can't image loading something that has a track narrower than 2 feet !

Cut some spacers at 1"



Cut some length of bar to weld onto the spacers




And here they are welded on



Here's a shot of some of the stake pockets welded on


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« Reply #194 on: September 30, 2017, 07:03:52 PM »
Getting there.
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« Reply #195 on: September 30, 2017, 07:33:40 PM »
Are you going to weld flat bar on outside of all the stake pockets?
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« Reply #196 on: September 30, 2017, 07:40:51 PM »
Are you going to weld flat bar on outside of all the stake pockets?

Those make great tie-downs!!
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« Reply #197 on: September 30, 2017, 07:43:44 PM »
Are you going to weld flat bar on outside of all the stake pockets?

I'm not sure. I might. If I do it will be just over the 3 pockets in front of the the fenders. I do have some 1.5" x 1/4" I could use.

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« Reply #198 on: September 30, 2017, 10:59:28 PM »
Are you going to weld flat bar on outside of all the stake pockets?

I'm not sure. I might. If I do it will be just over the 3 pockets in front of the the fenders. I do have some 1.5" x 1/4" I could use.

If you have the steel I would do it. It looks very clean & as JR stated it gives you a nice place to wrap tie downs on etc.
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« Reply #199 on: October 01, 2017, 07:29:32 AM »
Nice attention to detail


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