My bet would be Shawn is talking more than just a little bleach mixed with water.

Shawn, Are ya?

I'll get to the bottom of this!

Quote from: Flyin6 on December 27, 2016, 10:57:01 PM

Quote from: EL TATE on December 27, 2016, 06:24:37 PM

Any photo-journalistic results? I assume all went well.

No, no photos...Darn!

I was hoping Kat would get some, but both girls are out with some relative or getting shuffled about. Sadie just got back and she was really happy with getting her things!

Unfortunately, Bella's Grand dad died Christmas eve and she is still with the family. Her dad did call Kat and thanked her very much for the things, but little Bella isn't home and hasn't seen her things yet. BTW, that is the family we just paid $350 toward their rent for Jan, so that will undoubtedly turn out to be a needed blessing.

Man, when it rains, it pours!

Hope the Grandfather knew Christ.  For all we know, this might be a inroads to Bella and her father coming to know The Lord.....prayers for them both.

I do think this was all brought our way because of the seeds we plant. Who knows, may be harvest time comin' up!

Any photo-journalistic results? I assume all went well.

No, no photos...Darn!

I was hoping Kat would get some, but both girls are out with some relative or getting shuffled about. Sadie just got back and she was really happy with getting her things!

Unfortunately, Bella's Grand dad died Christmas eve and she is still with the family. Her dad did call Kat and thanked her very much for the things, but little Bella isn't home and hasn't seen her things yet. BTW, that is the family we just paid $350 toward their rent for Jan, so that will undoubtedly turn out to be a needed blessing.

Man, when it rains, it pours!

As of this evening, they are all cleaned and ready to go, and go they will, right to the farm in the morning. After setting them, I'll procure the materials for the containment bin and build that in the basement shop in such a manner that it can be a knocked down after construction here, then hastily assembled on site with a minimum of fuss.

That build is coming right up, but I think it will be a simple 8' X 6' X 5' tall with a roof and two access doors, some added storage space and a small area for the pump, filter unit and accumulator. I'll leave room for a few batteries for the future addition of the roof mounted solar cells. I'll also create two passive solar heating panels within the south wall.

They all have 2" NPT ball valves, which I think I'll keep intact and plumb off the ends of those

So I picked up three of the 330 gallon "Tote" fluid transport containers. two of these will become the water supply cistern for the camper giving me between 600 to 660 gallons available. If it all goes as planned, the tanks will be resupplied from time to time from rain water run-off from the roof of the camper, once the full system is fabbed and installed

Keeping the deer watering hold very full

E's second Christmas.   He has a love for all things with wheels it makes a guy happy to watch




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Great pic!

This is a cool thread!

And not a closed one!

All you chickens ( ;-)  ) out there in guest land should do the real man thing, register and make yourself known, then join in right here.

I'm thinking of renaming this the "Fellowship thread" cause that's what it is, but one or several of my moderators would overrule me, change it back, then I'd fire them again, and then, have to apologize once again, so, heck with all that, I'll just ride along.

But I'm hangin' tough with the "Chicken comment!" You chickens git in there, show some and register! Then join in

Who knows, it just might be good for ya!

Had some northern lights late last night.

The casa under aurora.

What are those odd lookin' clouds in the nightscape?

this is my first rule when working on my farm - cardio.

I've been ghost for about 3 months. Some know i moved up from being a suburbanite with every sort of convenience within 5 mins for me to a "farmer". it's been quite the transition. The Lord has humbled me not only with the work on the land but also with my family (who requires me time). I now have to drive 20 mins to reach a store and when i do go i need to be well prepped - like shopping lists and my daughter who reminds me about everything i always forget. Aside from the structural foundations, there is no concrete on the property - my driveway is 250 feet or dirt/grass and when it rains - mud. I've seen my tank (pond) swell 3x since late october and learning how the land handles water, flooding and wind.

We have 42 acres. 36 is leased to row crop and hay right now, so the area i am (current) actively work is 6 acres. Out of those 6 acres, 4 were totally covered in weeds, brush, crap and general lack of care and maintenance for almost 10 years. The first months i spent just clearing trees, 2 acres of blood weed, demoing old, rotted, dangerous structures - as well as working a 9-5 IT job. I've never ever been stretched so thin - ever. I am going from 6 am to often 11pm at night. With winter here, i have 2 hours of sunlight per day to work with if i am in the office during the day. Luckily i work from home a few days a week which is awesome.

Until the spring i am on a serious budget and while i can borrow my friends KUBOTA for heavier jobs, i like to - when I can get in a good cardio working out and do it by hand. I've never been in such good physical shape as i am now. Spring time will bring a UTV and possibly an older pickup into the mix.

Since 8/26, ive cleared 20 trees from the tank. this involved me wading up to my waste in nasty water with my darling STIHL saw felling willows, etc then dragging those trees 300 feet to a burn pile. A friend and I managed to take a few roots/stumps out using his tractor.

I've set 1.5 acres ablaze. The burn has turn that pasture area in the greenest grass on the land. This week i'll be setting ablaze a burn pile the size of a house as well as another .75 or so acres to prepare for bees, herbs and a vegatable gfarden.

I've demo'd an an entire 3 tiered deck with just a mallet and my STIHL. With the help of a friend, put up 300 feet of ranch fencing to make a backyard and built a 24x12' deck.

Built an entire 18x6' chicken coop (pics below), raises 26 chickens (20 are in the coop, 6 are going in our yard), met and selected SHEEP so we can start a herd for the spring, got a pot belly pig, wound up with a barn cat and planted to 2 pecan trees.

we have currently 3 large livestock pens. I am in the process of clearing those after 6 years of utter neglect. i plan to have that done this week (cardio, cardio, cardio). I've hard my arms and legs mauled by fire ants almost 12 times, slashes, punctures, rashes and allergic reaction from all the work, but.... i love it.

I took an entire weekend and attended workshops and lectures at a wonderful homesteading fair up in Waco. I left there armed to take on just about anything and blessed and humbled because the land i sit on now is so perfectly situated for what we want to do.

2017 will bring the adding of almost 1000' feet of fence line to open up more pastureland for the sheep, a veg garden, 2 small barns and some other TBD's.

Lol, and that's just the outside... i will not speak of the actual house. lol.

My life has been turned upside down. I've learnt more in these 3 months then my entire lifetime. God has placed new people in my life who are showing me the ropes and laughing when i screw up, then have a beer with me after.

I'm a farmer.... but i still wear my MERRELLS hiking/tac boots, tru-spec pants and an assortment of "breathable" shirts. I dont see this changing much. lol.

I'll make this an ongoing thread as i gather more pics and project info....

Casa De Cluck









 

I'd love to see plans for that chicken coop!
One of the nicest ones I have seen to date, well done!

I just love this stuff...

Funny

One thing to own a weapon, its another to know how to use it

The Pilots Christmas Poem

'Twas the night before Christmas, and out on the ramp,
Not an airplane was stirring, not Mooney, not Champ.
The fuel trucks nestled, all snug in their spots,
While north wind was gusting to 49 knots.

The aircraft were fastened to tie downs with care
In hopes that come morning, they'd all still be there.
And I at the fuel desk, duties caught up,
Had just settled down with coffee in cup

When over the radio, came such a clatter
I turned down the squelch to see what was the matter.
A voice clearly heard over static and snow
Asked for clearance to land at the airport below.

He made his transmissions both lively and quick
And I'm sure that the call sign he used was "Saint Nick."
Away to the window I flew like a flash,
Sure that it was only Horizon's late Dash.

I peered at the sky seeking Nav lights on the sled
I saw only one at the front it was red!
He called his position, and I heard him say,
"St. Nicholas here, inbound on my sleigh!"

He flew the approach, on glideslope he came,
As he passed fixes, he called them by name
"Now Ringo! Now Tolga! Now FAF Bacon!
On Comet! On Cupid!” (What pills was he takin'?)

The last of those fixes were bound to confuse,
So the Tower called me to deliver their views
The message they gave was both urgent and dour
"When Santa Claus lands, HE WILL PLEASE CALL THE TOWER!"

He landed like silk, with the sled runners sparking,
With "Exit at Charlie," and "Taxi to parking."
He stepped from the sleigh, but before he could talk,
I had run out to give him my very last chock.

He was dressed all in fur, which was covered with frost
And his beard was all blackened from chimney exhaust.
His breath smelled like peppermint, gone slightly stale
And he smoked on a pipe (but he didn't inhale).

He had a broad face, his armpits were smelly,
His boots were as black as a crop duster’s belly.
He was chubby and plump, a right jolly old fool,
And, smiling, informed me he needed some "fuel.”

A wink of his eye and a turn on his toes,
He left for the washroom to powder his nose.
As he departed, I wondered and saw
That my challenge was finding a fuel called . . . straw.

I thought for a while about passing this test
Then remembered a 'plane had arrived from out West
Just full of supplies for a stable quite near
The freight warehouse must contain straw for the deer!

So, I went to the warehouse and warnings unheeded
Found and brought back what the nine reindeer needed.
When I got to the sleigh Santa beamed with relief,
Then went for a phone for a flight-service brief.

And I thought, as he silently wrote in his log,
That with Rudolph, he could land in a one-eighth-mile fog.
He finished his preflight, from front to the rear,
Then on with his headset. I heard him yell "Clear!"

And laying gloved finger upon his push-talk,
He called up the tower for clearance and squawk.
"Straight out on three-zero," the tower called forth,
"And watch for a Cessna inbound from the North."

I heard him exclaim, as he climbed in the night,

"Merry Christmas to all! I have traffic in sight."

Top 10 most delusional “facts” of the lunatic left-wing fact-checkers
Sunday, December 18, 2016 by: Mike Adams   

(NaturalNews) Since Facebook has announced its intention to erect a Ministry of Truth echo chamber by labeling all news it doesn’t like “fake news,” I thought it appropriate to unveil the top 10 most delusional “facts” people will be subjected to if they keep viewing Facebook, CNN, or any other news propaganda being put out by what has become the mentally ill political left in America today.

As anyone with a functioning brain already knows, the unhinged left is utterly clueless about the properties of “facts” or where they come from. To them, “facts” are whatever their friends keep repeating, even if they have no basis whatsoever in evidence or reality. In essence, “facts” are whatever they believe, while “fake news” is whatever you believe. (It really is that simple in their feeble brains.)

So consider these top 10 most delusional “facts” we’ll soon see rolled out as “truth” by the newly-sprung news cartels operating inside Fakebook.

“Fact” #1: Eating meat is cruelty to animals, but harvesting the organs of living, partially-born human babies isn’t cruel at all

Somehow, the delusional left has decided that animals are conscious beings but not human babies. Yeah, it’s insane, I know. Liberalism is best defined as a kind of mental illness where a person can hold two utterly contradictory thoughts in their head at the same time while simultaneously believing them both.

To demonstrate this particular brand of lunacy, a Beastie Boy recently announced a new line of “cruelty free” sneakers with proceeds to benefit abortion providers. Yep, “no animals were harmed in the process of butchering these babies” might as well be the sicko slogan of the unhinged left.

“Fact” #2: If not for the burning of fossil fuels, Earth’s climate would never change at all

At first, they called their hoax “global warming,” but when it turned out the Earth wasn’t warming at all — funny how that works when you use actual data instead of fraudulently altered numbers — they had to roll out a more encompassing name: Climate Change.

According to Climate Change cultists — named thusly because no amount of evidence can alter their “faith” in Climate Change — Earth’s climate never changed at all until humankind came along and started burning fossil fuels.

But now — OMG! — every hurricane, flood, drought, forest fire and freezing arctic blast is automatically attributed to “climate change.” Yep, especially among young leftists who have been indoctrinated by the lies of government-run schools, they think their ancestors lived in a time when Earth was eternal Spring, with no climate variation or natural disasters whatsoever.

It’s only because you and I are using air conditioning and driving SUVs that the planet has become angry, unleashing all sorts of climatic “changes” that otherwise would have never occurred. This explanation, you may have noticed, closely resembles the superstitions of 5th-century humans who largely believed that bad weather and solar eclipses were caused by “angry gods” seeking to punish them. In over 1000 years, we’ve learned nothing, it seems, and “progressives” have thrust us back to an era of incredible ignorance and superstition where scientific evidence is abandoned for the sake of powerful cult-like beliefs.

“Fact” #3: People with XY chromosomes can instantly transform all their genes into XX chromosomes by declaring themselves to be women (the Theory of Spontaneous Genetic Transmutation…)

Ask any young liberal and they’ll tell you there are at least 30 genders, maybe even more if you count “TransUnicorn.” If you can stop laughing hilariously, ask them whether sex is determined by genetic expression or by a “choice.” They will insist it’s a “choice!”

And just like that, the delusional leftists discard centuries of scientific knowledge in genetics, sexual reproduction, phenotype expressions and physical reality. If you dare point out to them that “transgenderism is a mental illness,” they will label you a purveyor of either hatred or “fake news.”

To them, a “feeling” is more REAL than actual science, you see. And if a young man sucks down enough bisphenol-A to start “feeling” like a woman, then his womanhood is accepted as a “fact” by the deranged lunatic left. Some of them even insist that such “gender-fluid” biological males can get pregnant and have babies!

I have named this hilarious bit of leftish delusional idiocy the Theory of Spontaneous Genetic Transmutation. This theory is quite literally accepted as “fact” by nearly every liberal under the age of 30.

“Fact” #4: Media news coverage during the presidential campaign was completely fair to both Clinton and Trump, but the DNC hacks were one-sided, and thus totally unfair

Yep, according to the delusional left, the almost universally glowing media coverage of Hillary Clinton — alongside relentless media attacks waged against Trump — were “fair and balanced.” But Trump won the election because the DNC hacks (which were actually leaks from a Bernie Sanders supporter, not hacks at all) were totally unfair because they only leaked the emails of the democrats, not republicans.

Hidden in that protest is an astonishing presumption that all the leaked DNC emails were true! And they reveal a deeply shocking level of collusion inside the DNC to destroy Bernie Sanders and steal the nomination for Hillary Clinton.

“Fact” #5: Hillary Clinton should be President because she won the popular vote, but when Bernie Sanders kept winning the popular vote during the primary, Clinton somehow got all the delegates… hmmm…

Hilariously, the Clinton campaign (and all delusional leftists in general) only believes in “popular votes” when they win the popular vote. When they don’t win the popular vote, they believe in rigging the delegates to make sure their candidate gets the delegate votes even if they lost the popular vote. This is exactly how Hillary Clinton kept walking away with the vast majority of delegates even in states where Bernie Sanders won the popular votes (sometimes in a landslide).

Beyond all that, the presidential election is not determined by popular votes, or else Donald Trump would have campaigned heavily in places like New York City and Los Angeles. The winner is determined by Electoral Votes, which is why Donald Trump campaigned in the areas that deliver electoral victories. (Gosh, is he supposed to be a bad person for following the rules and winning by those rules?)

If the Clinton campaign didn’t think the Electoral College was fair, why didn’t they protest it before the results revealed Hillary to be the loser? The answer, of course, is because nearly every leftist in America was completely convinced that Hillary Clinton would win the election (because that’s what the media echo chamber told them). Hilariously, this caused many of them to avoid going out to vote, thereby ensuring their ballot box loss. CNN’s false media narrative that Hillary was “unbeatable,” in other words, may have actually handed Donald Trump the election victory. (Such is the price of extreme arrogance.)

“Fact” #6: There’s no such thing as a hate crime against white people

According to the lunatic left, “hate crimes” can only be committed by white people against people of color. The opposite cannot occur because white people “deserve” to be beaten, raped, or shot by people of color, you see. (For the record, I am a person of color, which means I am therefore incapable of committing any hate crime myself, you see.)

Thus, when a group of Black Lives Matter terrorists marches in the streets calling for the open murder of white people — or dragging people out of their vehicles and beating them solely because of their white skin color — they are not engage in hate crimes at all, according to the delusional left. Instead, they are said to be engaged in “social justice.” Because, you see, violence is always called “justice” by the worst criminals in every collapsing society.

This is why the entire left-wing media censors all news about black people attacking white people, but strongly emphasizes all news about white people attacking black people. It’s all part of controlling the narrative to paint the kind of one-sided propaganda that the delusional left depends on for its very survival.

For the record, here at Natural News, we believe that there is no such thing as a thought crime. Crimes of violence are crimes in and of themselves due to their actions. Attaching a layer of “hate” to the motivation behind such a crime is a grave injustice. Crimes should be prosecuted based on the actions of those who committed them, not on the words uttered while carrying them out. Otherwise, we are admitting that words are crimes.

“Fact” #7: Guns are conscious, self-animating objects that leap out of their holsters and shoot people all on their own

According to delusional leftists who essentially believe in magic, guns are self-directed objects that shoot people all on their own. Leftists truly believe that a gun in a room can leap to its feet, target individuals and discharge bullets without needing to be actuated by the will of a person.

This is where the delusional left comes up with meaningless phrases like “gun violence,” placing the emphasis on the inanimate object rather than the person deploying it. There is no such thing as “gun violence” any more than there is “hammer violence” when murderers use hammers.

When Somali tribes commit mass murder against each other using machetes, the left never describes such events as “machete violence” and tries to blame machetes. Ever wonder why? Because that would sound incredibly stupid. But when it comes to guns, the left gladly invokes the phrase “gun violence” in order to blame guns rather than people. It’s a deliberately loaded phrase that’s designed to blame guns rather than the mostly left-wing criminals who use them to commit violence against society.

Similarly, when radical Islamic terrorists used an ice cream truck to mow down tourists in Paris, the left-wing media reported the mass murder as being carried out by the truck! News reports proclaimed, “TRUCK runs over 85 people…” or “Authorities are searching for TRUCK that murdered 85…”

Somehow, it never occurs to idiotic leftists that a terrorist was driving the truck. And if trucks are such murderous instruments of death, then why isn’t the left calling for a nationwide truck ban?

“Fact” #8: Only progressives can identify “facts” … everyone else doesn’t know what they’re talking about

This “fact” is the best one of all. According to the delusional, fringe left, only people who support left-wing policies can recognize or identify “facts.”

This twisted special sauce of circular logic is what leftists tell themselves when they proclaim their version of “facts” to be absolute and authoritative, while anyone else’s version of “facts” are nothing but lies and falsehoods.

Thus, the lunatic left believes it gets facts straight from God in a sort of “divining ritual” from which indisputable facts emerge much like a genie might appear after vigorously rubbing a brass lamp.

This “monopoly of facts” is the sole domain of liberals, you see, and they know this because so many of them agree with that supposition, thus proving it to be true by “social consensus.” They surveyed each other, you see, and now they cite the survey which states that “100% of all people everywhere participate in surveys.” This, too, is a “fact” of the delusional left-wing media.

(It’s kind of convenient for journalists at the Washington Post when they merely need to cite each other as “unnamed sources” for whatever news they happen to be fabricating at the moment, too. Who needs actual intelligence sources when WashPost reporters can circle jerk each other for made-up quotes that get worked into their front page fabrications?)

“Fact” #9: Intentions count more than actions

Obama is a good President and a good person. How do we know that? Because he has good intentions.

Never mind the fact that he doubled the national debt to nearly $20 trillion. Never mind the fact that his DOJ masterminded a gun-running operation to put illegal weapons into the hands of Mexican drug cartels (Operation Fast and Furious). Never mind the indisputable observation that he was a race baiter who created division, hatred and distrust across America’s cultural fabric. And pay no attention to the astonishing job loss, unemployment and plummeting wages caused by the Obamacare scheme he championed as some sort of twisted, pathetic “legacy.”

Nope, you’re not supposed to consider actual reality when it comes to judging people on the left. They are all given a pass on their behavior as long as they have good intentions, you see.

This is why it doesn’t matter to the left that Bill Clinton is an accused rapist, sexual molester and repeated attacker of multiple women who have openly and publicly accused him of sexual assault. According to the delusional left, Bill Clinton gets a free pass on all that because he’s a good liberal. He has compassion, don’t you know? He supports abortion, carbon taxes and banning the Second Amendment. Thus, according to the left, it doesn’t matter how many women he raped, abused or molested.

Facts be damned. When it comes to protecting the champions of the political left, no amount of legitimate evidence of criminal wrongdoing can overcome the left’s blind faith in their so-called leaders, even if they be pedophiles ordering sicko sessions with minors like buying pizza off a menu.

“Fact” #10: Bigger government is always the answer

No matter what challenges society may face, the disconnected left believes bigger government is always the answer.

Got a problem with people drinking too much soda? We need bigger government to function as “food police” and criminalize large sodas offerings.

Are too many dementia patients forgetting where they are and wandering aimlessly across mall parking lots? We need bigger government, the left insists, to microchip and track the location of all those afflicted with “mental disorders.” (It’s true, Congress just passed the law for government to microchip citizens.)

Can’t afford your rent? Mobile phone bills? Groceries? Don’t worry, the government will create a new program to take money from all those who earned it and redistribute the funds to loyal democrat voters who consume it (while, of course, padding the pockets of the politically connected elite along the way).

According to the delusional left, there’s no problem too large that even larger government can’t solve! Their utopian economy, in fact, is a system where the free market is abolished and replaced by a centrally planned economy which values “equality” above all else.

Our world already has a system like that, by the way. It’s called “Venezuela.” And right now, all the self-righteous Venezuelans who voted for “equality” are eating out of grocery store dumpsters while having their cash criminalized and confiscated by the very same government they stupidly put into power. (Will socialists never learn?)

The greatest “fact” of all is the fact that leftists have increasingly become fact-free lunatics

So let’s cut the crap. Almost everything the lunatic left insists is a “fact” turns out to be a fairy tale or outright lie. Polar bears are going extinct! If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor! Raising taxes on corporations is good for creating jobs! Hillary Clinton believes in honoring the outcome of all democratic elections… except for the ones she loses. And if you lose an election in a democracy, the correct course of action, according to the left, is to keep threatening electoral voters with murder until you get your way.

It turns out that, for the most part, leftists are fact-free lunatics. I could lay out a hundred striking examples of the lunacy and contradictions of the delusional left, but you probably already see many of them yourself. The left has become so deranged and disconnected from reality that their cheap tactics of race baiting and slandering their political opponents simply don’t work anymore.

The political left in America, which was once a semi-respected organization that opposed George Bush’s corporate-run wars and fought to reduce air pollution has become a twisted cabal of deranged fringe lunatics who have already crossed the threshold of mental illness. Now, with the help of Fakebook — which has become the online equivalent of Darth Vader — they’re going to try to steamroll society with a whole new set of fabricated “facts” that will also fail miserably… just like their recent election efforts.

Facts are stubborn things. More importantly, no one has a monopoly on them. Those who try to censor whatever “facts” they don’t agree with will only end up making the things they dispute increasingly popular for the simple reason that human beings are curious about the world around them, and they don’t take kindly to having a homogenized, sanitized worldview shoved down their throats by self-proclaimed “fact checkers” who genuinely belong in a psychiatric ward.

But don’t take my word for anything. After all, everything I’ve written here is merely my opinion. Open your eyes, explore the world for yourself, and make up your own mind. That simple act, by the way, will make you a lifelong enemy of the left… which demands you remain blindly obedient to their “facts” even when your own direct experiences contradict them. Remember: The ultimate goal of the radical left is to make you abandon trust in your own senses, thoughts and logical conclusions. Only then can they dominate your existence with their fabrications that any clear-headed person would instantly see right through.

Pulled church security guy...

Been a long day

Wil,

Nobody missed the story

Take a breath...

Actually, take a bunch of them ;-)

And yes, its crap, but really, stop giving the weirdo's and demons credibility, for in heaven's realms, they have none. Yea, I don't like this homo getting away with attacking someone, but you're looking at it all wrong.

We assume these homo activists are just being obnoxious. But what if someone coming up in that manner purported bodily harm to us. I think the way we need to regard things like this is as a possible life threatening assault. And, of course take the appropriate countermeasures.

Now what man wearing panties will stand against that?

See, nothing to worry and get worked up about!

We talked about a real man cook book

Would be dirt floor easy for me

I contribute my no bake cookies and the crab cakes and I'm done. Youse guyses contribute the other 714 recipes and I just compile, and publish. Then you guyses show up on the cooking channel to demo!

Easy!

Someone say food???

Thanks for that heads up!

Love to see that list

Better yet, name and address of the folks who posted it...

^^^Snorkels and seat warmers!!

Odd as it may seem, I can totally see it!

The ones I've used in the Armeee (as Big D calls it) were all green. I think I'd like the black and white much better. Seems like there'd be less chance of headaches. Looks good! I think you'll like it.

Green is cool by the way... But green is the amplified light design whereas grays are FLIR

Gotta wonder what's coming next? Welding arc light, or lasers or detuned photon- torpedos?

Dat's Boo-Tee-Full!

undisputed evidence that Good Ol Gore has be right all along!!

Yep, he's da man

Should give him a nobel peace prize...No, wait, already got that...

He's one of my role models...

His poster is the one at 75 meters on the range

More damaging and differing opinions

So sad...