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« Reply #50 on: November 17, 2018, 12:39:34 PM »
Don. There is a company that retro fits the stock headunit to have Bluetooth and line outs for an amp. Keep it stick looking. The bezel you speak of is only made in black

Also if you ignore sage advice and do lift it. I need the crossmember and the little piece you have to saw off the crossmember mounting pocket please.


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And on that note, the pre-2003 trucks cant accept a double-din stereo in that opening without hacking things up.


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500
« Reply #51 on: November 17, 2018, 03:17:37 PM »
Ryan there is a new bezel kit that allows double din wo cutting. 




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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500
« Reply #52 on: November 17, 2018, 04:55:24 PM »
Man am I behind the times, I don't even know what a double din  is! Something like two scoops of icecream in my waffle cone, just biggerer?
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500
« Reply #53 on: November 17, 2018, 05:56:41 PM »
Don't feel bad Don, I have no idea either. Push a button and the sound happens, don't like the sound turn the button.

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« Reply #54 on: November 17, 2018, 06:02:13 PM »
I may be wrong but I am pretty sure you can get the dash piece from a newer version chev truck or burb that has the double din dash in it. 


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« Reply #55 on: November 17, 2018, 06:30:11 PM »
I thought there was an issue in the dash too, not just the outer bezel. Obviously I haven’t really researched it. I’ll leave that up to y’all ;)


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« Reply #56 on: November 17, 2018, 06:59:17 PM »
Well, I least of all know, but will be learning soon enough

After getting the thing, I'll do the general maintenance thing, then install HIDs then probably next up will be the receiver/GPS thing.

At the moment, our newest member is Rob, the gentleman who sold the truck to me, is trying to schedule shipping of the Burb to me for Monday late afternoon. More on that to come.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500
« Reply #57 on: November 17, 2018, 07:03:50 PM »
Well shoot, has anyone warned Rob about you yet?
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« Reply #58 on: November 17, 2018, 07:13:40 PM »
Well shoot, has anyone warned Rob about you yet?
What warning? The fires everyone when he feels like it? Or starts lots of projects but doesn’t finish? Warn him of the bosses underlying fear that if he finishes square D we will all leave the forum and he will be left to his own thoughts and Christmas related rants?


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500
« Reply #59 on: November 17, 2018, 07:18:28 PM »
No. Using a bezel from a later model does not work. There are YouTube vids on guys that did it but they have to get the radio basket and modify the ac controls too.




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« Reply #60 on: November 17, 2018, 07:27:27 PM »
OK, I've investigated this on YouTube and now know a bit more than I did earlier.

It seems the 2002 is a din and a half. So is Din a unit of measurement?

Anyway, here is a good vid of a gentleman who did the mod. There are apparently other ways to get this done, but this seems reasonable enough.

Below is a pic of my stock radio in the burb.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=installing+double+din+radio+into+2002+suburban&&view=detail&mid=A8E85A8C6344C5A394A0A8E85A8C6344C5A394A0&&FORM=VRDGAR
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500
« Reply #61 on: November 17, 2018, 07:47:48 PM »
Not sure about din but I had a unit of measurement in my shop called dim & it went something like this.

You know that guy over their licking the window is really dim!  :tongue:
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« Reply #62 on: November 17, 2018, 07:58:30 PM »
Not sure about din but I had a unit of measurement in my shop called dim & it went something like this.

You know that guy over their licking the window is really dim!  :tongue:
Seen a few of those...
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« Reply #63 on: November 17, 2018, 09:05:02 PM »
Nice find Chief! That’ll be a good rig, especially once it’s duraburbed!!! However I too am on the minimal lift crowd.

I mean, once it’s got a duramax, just put some 1/2” bumpers on both ends, and some home made rock sliders to direct vehicles being pushed out of the way by the bumpers!!! No need for a giant lift.

Also, that guy has some nice rigs in there, particularly the Bronco Sport.

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« Reply #64 on: November 17, 2018, 09:36:25 PM »
Double Din? As in  " I doubly din do nuffin" ?
Shawn says that all the time,  right before he gets fired.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500
« Reply #65 on: November 18, 2018, 02:23:48 AM »
Think my dmax could use a new head with GPS.

Now lets not DOT this up to much until it gets delivered at least!
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500
« Reply #67 on: November 18, 2018, 08:53:01 AM »
Here is ours. We've got 175K trouble free miles. Rebuild the front end, add the pit man and idle arm support kit.

Schedule and appointment with Black Bear Performance and have it tuned.

I leveled the front of ours and bumped the tires up to 265/75/16. 4.10s and 35s will be a dog. Been there done that.

Put a bigger transmission cooler on it.

I also ditched the clutch fan due to wanting better AC performance in Texas summers. On road trips we see 15 MPG (barely) and ave 12 every where else.

Dont pull into a gas station on a road trip and not turn it off: https://www.rv.net/FORUM/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/23822076/

Before spending cash on HID, try grounding the low beam to the frame that way when you kick the highs on the lows will stay on. More than enough light.









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« Reply #68 on: November 18, 2018, 09:36:13 AM »
That’s a good lookin rig too.    I want a Burb when I get old now to. 


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« Reply #69 on: November 18, 2018, 10:37:43 AM »
The outpouring against lifting this truck is amazing, something I never expected.

I'll thoughtfully consider everyone's sentiment...

I do not think I will dura-max this one. I was thinking of doing something subtle but amazing with the 6.0

Take a look at "On-3 performance."

They make turbocharger parts and kits and for this application. The kits are pretty simple bolt ons that produce striking results. On bone stock 5.3's they make 550 HP and 575 torque at 7 psi. On 6.0's they are pushing 600 hp with the smaller turbo. Step up to their next turbo and tune for 10 psi and these engines make 700+ HP and 750+ Torque. You can always lean on the thing and push well over a thousand HP.

A small turbo kit coming in at 600/600 would be just fine and make for a surprising driver.
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« Reply #71 on: November 18, 2018, 10:44:18 AM »
That’s a good lookin rig too.    I want a Burb when I get old now to. 


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500
« Reply #72 on: November 18, 2018, 10:58:53 AM »
I think leveled or a small lift would be about perfect.  When it comes time for the bumpers let me know if I can be of assistance.  I built a set for a 2001 2500 truck last winter.  The front bumper was a cross between a 1500 and 2500HD I believe.  The rear was the same 1500 bumper I build for every GM truck from 2001 to 2013.

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« Reply #73 on: November 18, 2018, 11:15:38 AM »
I think leveled or a small lift would be about perfect.  When it comes time for the bumpers let me know if I can be of assistance.  I built a set for a 2001 2500 truck last winter.  The front bumper was a cross between a 1500 and 2500HD I believe.  The rear was the same 1500 bumper I build for every GM truck from 2001 to 2013.
This sounds cool on the bumper thing...gettin you knuckleheads involved in this project...

So for a front bumper I was either going to purchase an ARB bull bar setup or build it meself.

For the rear, I'd like something like the Road Armor on C-Max. Spare tire and gas/water can rack
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500
« Reply #74 on: November 18, 2018, 11:23:28 AM »
OK, found a lift kit that looks like a good compromise.

A Rough Country 3"

Run that with 32" or 33" tires

Could I get an ah-men on that?

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« Reply #75 on: November 18, 2018, 11:25:19 AM »
That, and add in the cognito HD idler, truss kit, HD tie rods, flip the U-bolts (Shawn), and air bag it

Still lookin' for that Ah-men

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Hold out too long and I'll have a 12" lift and tractor tires on it!
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« Reply #76 on: November 18, 2018, 11:39:53 AM »
Ok...aaaaamennnnn, even tho it's still a lift.
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« Reply #77 on: November 18, 2018, 11:40:16 AM »
I know my name is Dave and I am fired but isn’t there a rancho 4 inch that would allow the 33’s more room?  Tough country has one also


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« Reply #78 on: November 18, 2018, 01:46:00 PM »
12inch lift with tractor tires??? DARE YA :facepalm:

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« Reply #79 on: November 18, 2018, 02:23:12 PM »
That, and add in the cognito HD idler, truss kit, HD tie rods, flip the U-bolts (Shawn), and air bag it

Still lookin' for that Ah-men

Remember who you're dealin' with here

Hold out too long and I'll have a 12" lift and tractor tires on it!

I do have some hd top plates for a ubolt flip
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« Reply #80 on: November 18, 2018, 02:24:27 PM »
I know my name is Dave and I am fired but isn’t there a rancho 4 inch that would allow the 33’s more room?  Tough country has one also


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« Reply #81 on: November 18, 2018, 05:28:00 PM »
That, and add in the cognito HD idler, truss kit, HD tie rods, flip the U-bolts (Shawn), and air bag it

Still lookin' for that Ah-men

Remember who you're dealin' with here

Hold out too long and I'll have a 12" lift and tractor tires on it!

I do have some hd top plates for a ubolt flip
I'm still running yours on my D-Max truck
I'll be putting together an order from you after I get the truck

The HD U-Bolt plates, a diff cover, not sure what else yet...
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« Reply #82 on: November 18, 2018, 05:30:27 PM »
I know my name is Dave and I am fired but isn’t there a rancho 4 inch that would allow the 33’s more room?  Tough country has one also


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Buy a quality small lift if you’re going that route, those are about rock bottom....
Suggestions??

I have the recommendation from Dave, but he's currently fired, so I have to disregard ;-0

He thinks I'd be GTG with the tuff country 4"

Personally I was thinking of one of the 4/6 inch kits that drop the front diff and hopefully don't space out the front wheels
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« Reply #83 on: November 18, 2018, 05:53:09 PM »
I don’t think you can lift an OBS truck without increasing the track width. Unless you drop the upper a arm with a bracket lift.


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« Reply #84 on: November 18, 2018, 06:24:17 PM »
Keep in mind that on that year truck, the front diff on the drivers side dosent like to release the cv shaft due to the "C" clip that was used on the inside of that diff.
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« Reply #85 on: November 18, 2018, 06:55:12 PM »
If you stick with a spindle loft your track width stays the same.  Or do I have that backwards? 

Why are we not just ordering a kit from WFO and putting 37’s on this truck so the tires are double duty between the c max and the “S-maX”?


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« Reply #86 on: November 18, 2018, 07:18:01 PM »
That, and add in the cognito HD idler, truss kit, HD tie rods, flip the U-bolts (Shawn), and air bag it

Still lookin' for that Ah-men

Remember who you're dealin' with here

Hold out too long and I'll have a 12" lift and tractor tires on it!

I do have some hd top plates for a ubolt flip
I'm still running yours on my D-Max truck
I'll be putting together an order from you after I get the truck

The HD U-Bolt plates, a diff cover, not sure what else yet...

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« Reply #87 on: November 18, 2018, 07:19:05 PM »
I think you have it backwards.

Spindles have to clear the tire so the tire has to move out


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« Reply #88 on: November 18, 2018, 07:21:55 PM »
Zone has a 3” I’d look at if it were me....
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« Reply #89 on: November 18, 2018, 07:23:42 PM »
If you stick with a spindle loft your track width stays the same.  Or do I have that backwards? 

Why are we not just ordering a kit from WFO and putting 37’s on this truck so the tires are double duty between the c max and the “S-maX”?


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« Reply #90 on: November 18, 2018, 07:25:04 PM »
THis may be the most active build thread on the interweb that doesn't actually have a vehicle yet!
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« Reply #91 on: November 18, 2018, 08:17:54 PM »
THis may be the most active build thread on the interweb that doesn't actually have a vehicle yet!

This wouldn’t be anything new really. I mean sq d is probably the most active thread on the Intarweb that hasn’t been touched in a coons age....
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« Reply #92 on: November 18, 2018, 09:40:52 PM »
I’m just waiting to see what he does to the engine, I’m pretty sure it’s the same one I have in my 04 2500 Express. Of course I probably won’t be putting on the lift or the tires....plus mine has about 480k on it too.


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« Reply #93 on: November 19, 2018, 12:00:14 AM »
I like the turbo idea. I wish the 6.2td made that power.

I did the level kit Don and eat parts all day. Reason I am going with SAS over the lift.

Now the Conito lift NTBD only adds 1/2 width, but is pricy (now that I sold mine) You will want better shocks and 35s push a level kit!
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« Reply #94 on: November 19, 2018, 11:11:35 AM »
Keep in mind that on that year truck, the front diff on the drivers side dosent like to release the cv shaft due to the "C" clip that was used on the inside of that diff.

X5000!^^^^ remove the breather assembly to gain access to the end of the stub shaft, contact with a long punch and have the pre-ranger on the flange with the slide hammer and coordinate your strikes, you should be gtg. get it even the slightest bit off center and you might be buying JR's case to replace the one you just fragged.

Full floater from Duane should work perfectly, 00-04 are of the same lineage.

I know from Les Schwab days you can stuff 33" under the existing suspension with a level kit and bumper trim. I've had guys just crank up the torsion bars to achieve this, albeit the wrong way, but you could just get the right porkchops, throw some good billstiens on there and be done with it.
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« Reply #95 on: November 19, 2018, 12:10:09 PM »
Keep in mind that on that year truck, the front diff on the drivers side doesn't like to release the cv shaft due to the "C" clip that was used on the inside of that diff.
I don't quite understand this, and what Tate agreed with 5,000 times. So don't the CV shafts just unbolt with the six standard bolts from these front shafts? I'm just not picturing what's different.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500
« Reply #96 on: November 19, 2018, 12:32:10 PM »
Yeah, they unbolt, but the axle stub shaft is a pain to get out, on the right side.
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« Reply #97 on: November 19, 2018, 01:12:24 PM »
2002 Suburban loaded on trailer and will be delivered tomorrow.

Thanks Don!

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« Reply #98 on: November 19, 2018, 02:39:50 PM »
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« Reply #99 on: November 19, 2018, 03:14:44 PM »
2002 Suburban loaded on trailer and will be delivered tomorrow.

Thanks Don!
Rob,
You're welcome!

I got a call from Ken, the driver. He tells me I will be getting the Burb TONIGHT around 2030!
Wow
That about as quick as I could walk into a local dealership, search for, find, negotiate, and take delivery of something

Folks,

This was a pleasant experience working with Rob. I'll say that, yes it is a bit unusual purchasing a vehicle you have never seen before, and having to wire loads of money off without anything to show for it. But good things do happen, and when this "Super-Burb" shows up it will serve as a testimony that these transactions can work out.
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