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Point of order: One does not have to have served, be a soldier or a LEO to be a Sheep Dog. It's DNA stuff that our maker built into all of us. That is, we are all one of the three.
Wil,I posted this up as a sticky because 1. We seem to reference this often, and 2. It serves well to explain the mentality a lot of us shareAndPoint of order: One does not have to have served, be a soldier or a LEO to be a Sheep Dog. It's DNA stuff that our maker built into all of us. That is, we are all one of the three.
I was unable to serve because of knee issues that kept me from running for many years. I tried to become a cop at one point, but God led me away from that. I worked in the firearms industry, trained a hell of a lot in weapons and tactics, but all of this as a "civilian". I've found that unless you've "served", you get no respect in many areas. Overtime, i felt many of those in the firearms industry were self absorbed jerks who "served". those who didnt were talked down to and often told to shut up in certain terms... "what does he know, he never wore a helmet"? (in regards to a very well known firearms instructor). I chose to exit that world and frankly stay away from it in many fashions because it's certainly setup as a hierarchy with people like me being bottom of totum pole. I refuse to train with people who seek to give me different training (or deny me) because i am a civvy nor one who seeks for me to prove via background check or display of certain govt documents that i am "approved" to own inanimate objects.Perhaps i need a thread for this rant of mine, but it's bothered me for years.
Quote from: stewie on January 05, 2017, 03:25:44 PMI was unable to serve because of knee issues that kept me from running for many years. I tried to become a cop at one point, but God led me away from that. I worked in the firearms industry, trained a hell of a lot in weapons and tactics, but all of this as a "civilian". I've found that unless you've "served", you get no respect in many areas. Overtime, i felt many of those in the firearms industry were self absorbed jerks who "served". those who didnt were talked down to and often told to shut up in certain terms... "what does he know, he never wore a helmet"? (in regards to a very well known firearms instructor). I chose to exit that world and frankly stay away from it in many fashions because it's certainly setup as a hierarchy with people like me being bottom of totum pole. I refuse to train with people who seek to give me different training (or deny me) because i am a civvy nor one who seeks for me to prove via background check or display of certain govt documents that i am "approved" to own inanimate objects.Perhaps i need a thread for this rant of mine, but it's bothered me for years.I hear ya! I've been fortunate to have received a good bit of my firearms instruction from a "civie", and it was all good stuff. I've also done some firearms training with SF guys, and they were all as humble and respectful as can be. I have a feeling a lot of the "military" guys who you've been exposed to are no longer serving for a reason. True professionals don't have to thump their chests to get respect.
You made me think of somethingBack when I first entered Special Operations, my unit was highly classified. We carried all sorts of weapons, essentially, anything you wanted to carry was OK. Know where we went to train how to use those weapons? We used to go to a certain civie shooting school. You may have heard the rumors, but seldom was the day when a Task Force helo wasn't parked in the guys back yard. We'd haul in our own ammo, take an aircraft, stay there for a week and live with him and his family. We weren't allowed out in public and his wife cooked us all our meals.Ring any bells? That's where we learned how to shoot!
John Shaw
Quote from: Flyin6 on January 05, 2017, 11:27:22 PMJohn Shawneva heard of him. i guess i need to be one of the cool kids....
That skill which I still teach today, and actually teaching a class tomorrow came from John Shawhttp://weaponstraining.com/pages/about.htm#John
Quote from: Flyin6 on January 06, 2017, 12:18:29 PMThat skill which I still teach today, and actually teaching a class tomorrow came from John Shawhttp://weaponstraining.com/pages/about.htm#JohnJust about all the SF guys I've had the fortune of training with attended his courses.