REAL MAN TRUCKWORKS & SURVIVAL
PERSONAL READINESS => Hide Site => Topic started by: JR on August 29, 2022, 11:42:40 PM
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Well, since I really have a place to build now, building "MAYBE" on the way I have decided to start a new thread.
Hoping the building is on tract per Great Western??? Got a call from the garage door people saying my doors are in ready for delivery. I set it up to deliver them here and will load them on the trailer, taking them up on my terms. Otherwise they wanted to deliver mid week at the Ridge, but they think its in Sparks (close) not 25 miles north in the foothills.
First thread; http://real-man-truckworks-and-survival.com/index.php?topic=3981.1425
Working on the Exc so I can get the foundation going this year hopefully.
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Trip this weekend was a bit smoky. Nothing like last year though, could see most of the mountains at the Ridge.
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For reff that last pic was eastbound 80 friday about 4000ft.
First order of business was to get Dug out and started. Ended up being the seat safety, which I just twisted together (already disconnected)
Needs a good cleaning is an understatement. So much crud the throttle did not work!
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Belt was making really bad noise as the crud was that high.
In that rear pic the floor is 4 inches under the Radiator and the bottom is another 4-6 below that.
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Broke out the pressure washer (used I got for $60) but it would not push any high pressure water. I ran down (hour trip) to the local wally and was going to get their black max gas washer for $178, but non in stock (whole ones anyway), so I got the 3300psi one listed at $229. Box was beat all to heck and I had tried to call about 6 times checking stock. Manager gave me the $178 price for the $229 unit, win!
Ran great with the tote pressure until almost empty. Dug just got the outside done, access plates will have to come off the get to the rest. Kubota looked great with using the turbo tip, first wash in 3 years (time flies when having fun)
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I was going to do the well pump this weekend, but tractors seem to take priority somehow. Oh, Kub runs great with new fuel filter (still little H2O in there), topped with fresh diesel and Lucas fuel treament. Time to add a little winter stuff to both too, just about there.
This is just a cheap 110v AC well pump good for 440ft. I don't need high pressure or instant flow. Plan is for filling the tank on the hill and letting that do the work. Pump will only need to run couple times a week to top off the tank. Dug out past the frost line (2ft here) to add a hydrant and the pitless.
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Picked this up for basic use up there and who knows where. 1500watt (3k surge) for about 2/3 the price of others. Need more adapters for charging it but still better than a gen at night till I get my solar going (maybe next trip?)
Those Ampre Time Lifo batteries are getting great reviews too. May get 4 more for the 220v side giving me 400ah (almost 20k watts).
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Forgot to bring the power station up this weekend. Would like to see it if it will run the 1.5HP air compressor. Should with 3000watts surge and 1500 all th time (1.5hp = 1100watts). Sure the 5k inverter will but not quite there yet.
Speaking of that, I took 8x186watt solar panel up this weekend. Ran out of time and energy to mount on the container (Note, 4 hotlinks friday night did me in on Saturday)
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It was a full load going up there, but it fit. Also go Dug up off the ground on RR ties for a good cleaning. That was a job in itself since it still has a flat, neighbor helped with his big tractor.
Better picture (larger/less thumb)
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Taking a break and this little guy kept running around. Was really nice too, 80s daytime, mid 40s at night.
All in all not a bad trip, cept I heard from GWB again,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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So to add to the great western building saga, I got an email showing about the first week of Oct for delivery. Got a phone call saying later in Oct is more likely now.
I talked about how weather may impact delivery, and the project manager Jeremy Moore, again just told me woe are us stories, say they don't have the correct machine to finish my building. So I ask, "you haven't delivered ANY buildings since the move to Utah"? "Oh no, we have delivered hundreds of buildings", so I ask why is mine so diff from theirs it take 18 months to get it? Then he blamed materials supply again. Then he tried putting the blame on me for waiting so long to order, just like it was my fault the pad wasn't done so the truck couldn't deliver a building not made yet!!
So as you see, great western buildings has really dropped the ball. We will see when the product arrives the quality and customer support after the fact, hope not eh same quality I am getting now.
Oh, I got a call from the owner, Eric Beavers telling me thy are throwing in the gutters ($400) for free now to help a little. Then I told him I already added them back on, but he said they were not in the order he had?????? Still need the door insulation panels too.
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Just got an email about the $1600 "fuel surcharge". I told them if they had delivered in a reasonable time (18 months ago) prices were still low, their problem, not mine.
Waiting for an answer,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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I can’t believe you’ve stuck with them 18 months and not hired a lawyer or demanded a refund and walked…..
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Issue is I have all my permits and dwelling based on their design, about 10-15k on that besides the 20k they have for a deposit. (final bill is 51k with surcharge) In the long run I think I would loose more with a diff builder.
Now I was not ready to receive the building until earlier this, but the building still was not ready before that. Final OK to build was 4-21, fuel prices in Junes that year were just over $3 gal.
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So here is todays email;
Jeremy Moore <jeremy.m@gwbuildings.com>
To:
Fred Jr Bronk
Wed, Oct 5 at 8:01 AM
Hi Fred,
I get how you feel about the fuel surcharge. The fact of the matter is that we are all living in the same world.
I'm sure you drive by the gas station quite frequently, you see the crazy prices on diesel fuel. We aren't trying to rake you over the coals or anything, just passing on the costs.
Fred, I'm sorry, can you refresh my memory on the door insulation question please?
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Jeremy Moore
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My reply;
Fred Jr Bronk
To:
Jeremy Moore
Cc:
Eric Beavers
Wed, Oct 5 at 11:52 AM
I was sent non insulated doors. Called Eric when delivered and he said it would be covered as I only deleted the roof and wall insulation.
Free shipping is just that, its free or not. $1600 is not free and if the building was built/sent in a reasonable time (like 2-3 months after the order) prices were just over $3 a gallon. Your business practices taking 18months to get me my building is bad enough, covid or not.
My pad maybe not being ready is not an issue, could have put it someplace.
Fred Jr Bronk
To:
Jeremy Moore
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Eric Beavers
Wed, Oct 5 at 12:11 PM
I am hanging in on this project, many have suggested I get an attorney, but I'm not like that and I may lose more at this point than gain.
I have posting all this on my build thread; Raptor Ridge, the build. (real-man-truckworks-and-survival.com)
Just want to move ahead with what I ordered!
Fred Bronk
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I think anyone having knowledge of this fiasco would have to be nearly insane to do any business with this great western steel buildings company.
JR you have been fed multiple lines of bull. Heck at this point you must be turning into a cow and especially if you keep putting up with this.
A good attorney will get all your money back, plus the cost of having all that concrete for the foundation pulled out at Great Western's expense, plus a tidy sum for all the loss of use of your property.
I know a great bunch of Attorneys who take on companies like this who I could refer you to if you finally decide to hand this company what they have duly earned!
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Could be worth talking to someone. As I said I am not a litigious person, but this is getting stupid now.
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If I ran that company (not that I have any experience with such things) I’d send you what you ordered at the companies cost. Drop the stupid bs surcharges and move forward. Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose, the loss could be much larger for them.
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If I ran that company (not that I have any experience with such things) I’d send you what you ordered at the companies cost. Drop the stupid bs surcharges and move forward. Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose, the loss could be much larger for them.
That would be great of them and all I could ask for right now. I mean 18 months to build/deliver a 40x100 prefab building?
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Could be worth talking to someone. As I said I am not a litigious person, but this is getting stupid now.
Getting stupid? Shoot man you are long past.
Maserati owner ordered a building very similar to your building, he picked it up from Nucor out of Brigham city Utah I believe.
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Just a friendly reminder, COVID didn't reke havoc on our country, democrats did, along with various others.
THEY shut the economy down. They, paid people to stay home.
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Could be worth talking to someone. As I said I am not a litigious person, but this is getting stupid now.
Getting stupid? Shoot man you are long past.
Maserati owner ordered a building very similar to your building, he picked it up from Nucor out of Brigham city Utah I believe.
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Nucor is a very well run employee owned steel company of which used to be a customer of mine. You want a great steel company in your stock portfolio they are the one to have.
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Haven't heard back from GWB, figure I'll call tomorrow on the way up to the Ridge. To the CEO, Eric Beavers.
Got this for the ridge too. Several times I have jacked something up in the dirt and you know the results most of the time.
See good reviews and the large flat bottom should be way more stable. Plus trying the power station out, better run the 1.25hp compressor.
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Called the CEO but no answer AND mailbox is full. Left a text telling him the shipping is unacceptable in the least.
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I think its time to send a demand letter. It will cost you $300 to have an attorney send a demand letter and it will get them to pay attention
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I think its time to send a demand letter. It will cost you $300 to have an attorney send a demand letter and it will get them to pay attention
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This ^^^^^^ it’s go time.
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Didn't want to go this route, but it might be the next move.
Done a couple letters in the past with accidents, funny how things move faster then.
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Didn't want to go this route, but it might be the next move.
Done a couple letters in the past with accidents, funny how things move faster then.
Don't wait JR. He could well be going out of business. Time to get in queue.
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Didn't want to go this route, but it might be the next move.
Done a couple letters in the past with accidents, funny how things move faster then.
Don't wait JR. He could well be going out of business. Time to get in queue.
That’s a very good point Don. Especially in this economy.
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That has been the other excuse, they moved from Tx to Utah.
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That has been the other excuse, they moved from Tx to Utah.
My gut, is telling me they are in serious trouble. Whether it is caused by a so-so market, supply chain issues, bad management, or who knows what, it sounds to me like they have one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel!
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The Jermy Moore name sounds real familiar to me, brother in law married a Jermy Moore but his FB profile says he works for Layton construction. Unsure
But I know he was a dipcrap at one point
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JR, how well I remember going through almost the same stuff with my garage contractor. At that time it was material cost not fuel. I agreed to split the increase in lumber package with him. Cheaper than starting over and would have had to pay for the whole increase in costs. Hard call but you might offer to split the cost and move on.
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Might want to include that the extra will only be paid upon delivery of product.
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Everyone has good points. Sending a certified letter is cheaper than an attorney and may leave some more flexibility with less cost. Attorneys by definition try to find issues to keep themselves employed unless you have a good long standing relationship with one already.
Laying out the facts and what your future option (ie: an attorney is) might help if you see middle ground in this. Your call but I’d be getting nervous too at this point as Don stated.
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I just want the building now. I may sign "under duress" just to get it.
Been trying to call since Friday, and a long text to the CEO, no answer either way.
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I just want the building now. I may sign "under duress" just to get it.
Been trying to call since Friday, and a long text to the CEO, no answer either way.
Obviously your call, but my gut says you're gonna get screwed (again/more) by these people
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Is this the same company?
https://www.bbb.org/us/co/aurora/profile/metal-building/great-western-building-systems-llc-1296-90252936/complaints#1225002659 (https://www.bbb.org/us/co/aurora/profile/metal-building/great-western-building-systems-llc-1296-90252936/complaints#1225002659)
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^^^^^^^^^^^ Perhaps a shot across the bow may be in order. JR, document this and file a complaint. Forward the complaint to the CEO of the company. I'd further suggest, to add weight to the move, include a link to the thread here. Both the BBB and this CEO will see both the seriousness and how well-documented it all is. The CEO will notice all the notoriety he is earning for his business.
Tools man. It's all about the tools.
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I found that info this weeknd when I was up at the ridge, doesn't make me feel al warm and fuzzy for sure.
I have included this link already to both the CEO and project manager (hah). Guess they are closed today, no one answers.
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I found that info this weeknd when I was up at the ridge, doesn't make me feel al warm and fuzzy for sure.
I have included this link already to both the CEO and project manager (hah). Guess they are closed today, no one answers.
No, I'll bet they are getting it, but the news is bad and they are covering their bases and prepping for yet another assault from an angry customer.
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You are just full of good thoughts!
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You are just full of good thoughts!
We're your friends
We see you as being too close to the problem, too involved
We are just trying to help
I personally think (Hope not) that you are in trouble here of losing it all. I cannot stand companies who do this to good honest people. I happily work to help them to the earliest demise I can affect.
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Well today I got ahold of them. I said I just wanted the building on the ground and agreed to split the fuel surcharge with them since they were not "dropping it".
Figured having it is the main thing right now. Tired of the "woe is us" stories and prices are up.
On another note, inspector was out the clear the road/pad. He called when he went in (asking permission to open gate), didn't call back so I think I'm good.
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Well hopefully the building shows up in a timely manor. Sorry you have been having your chain pulled at every corner. Also glad they agreed to split the additional fuel charge with you.
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Lets keep our fingers crossed.
Now its get the well pump and septic in. Keep jumping around on how I want to mount the 8 panels I am going use. On top of the container, ground mount or ??
Figure if I get the foundation dug this year I can pour when and funds permit. Need to finish the exc up now, been here to long and weather is coming.
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Personally I would lean towards an adjustable ground mount
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I have thought about that for sure, but winds are an issue. Right now it just might be wood on the south facing wall, rear of the pad.
Since just using 8 panels for now, I was thinking tracking too. 8 panels are just 1600watts total, 32in x 60in each.
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Few sticks of 2x2 and your little welded and you are GTG
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I have some 10ft unistrut that might too. Also have all the clamps and little nuts for the US.
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Here is current status;
Shawn Humason <shawn.h@gwbuildings.com>
To:
Fred
Wed, Oct 12 at 8:53 AM
Morning Fred,
I hope all is well with you today sir. I have to let you know we are going to be delayed in getting the building out for another week or two. I know we said this week, and now that we are here we are forced to push out again on you but there is nothing we can do, it is out of our control.
The vendor supplying materials for your order and multiple others informed us that they are falling behind and cannot deliver on time. We are looking at at least 1 to 2 weeks more. I anticipate right around the end of the month. I checked with Eric and he confirmed there is nothing he can do. I am sorry Fred, you have been extremely patient with us, please bear with us. I will get you a load date as soon as possible.
Shawn Humason
Shipping Coordinator
Home Office | Great Western Building Systems LLC
(970) 707-8338 | +1 (800) 497-2135 X580
shawn.h@gwbuildings.com
https://greatwesternbuildings.com/
3033 S Parker Rd, Suite 1200, Aurora, CO 80014
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I got the final invoice today too. Even with tax little lower than I thought, but still not orginal contract price.
After the above email, here is my reply;
To:
Shawn Humason
Wed, Oct 12 at 11:03 AM
A week or 2 is what I figured anyway and works with my timeline as I don't live on site. Not sure if you were privy to this before.
I am limited to being on site Friday, Sat, Sun and Maybe Thursday afternoons. Now that we are into the school year, I am taxi for that. If we get into Nov weather will start coming into play for truck access. If it rains or snows a rig will not make it up the hill. I will supply you with the lat/long and lot # for delivery. Using regular GPS will not get you there with address.
The lot number for washoe county quickmaps is XXXXXXX. Thats actually shows the lot with roads.
I have a tractor and Skidsteer on site with real forks, not bolt ons. Neighbor has a big tractor with forks that will do really heavy items.
I think friday would be the best if possible.
JR, Heli Maniac
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Shawn Humason <shawn.h@gwbuildings.com>
Wed, Oct 12 at 11:09 AM
Got it, yes I remember speaking with you about this now Fred, thank you for your patience and understanding. I will be sure to share all of this with Ron Avey.
(some editing of names, emails, locations)
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Well JR, how many times can they push you before you quit being MR nice guy. This has really turned into one big mess. I understand options are slimmer than slim but after reading all the complaints posted above you have to wonder.
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I don't want to be negative
But this is just horse crap.
My question is, Why did they promise you a delivery date if they didn't even have materials on site to complete your building
Very poor project management IMHO
Two weeks, then another for some reason, then something else, then bad weather...
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Not the first time I have been called the nice guy, but I have my limits and am awful close.
All paid up now, see if my guts right. At least it is ALL documented very well. Or a woop arse trip to Colorado.
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Well, they have my $$ and I got a notice my door insulation is in route.
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Pad was signed off last week! Was beautiful up there but a little windy. Sat it turned, only got to 48, gusts of wind still.
Got to use the new air jack. Worked great in the dirt.
Even behind the tires its full of crud. Got the front/rear belly plates off. Good design being slotted with bolts on the outside edge.
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How many inches thick was that in the underside!!
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Holy Tamale!
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Look at the pic on page 1 of this, you can see how it buried.
This is way worse than when I got it, but way easier junk to clean out.
Buy the way, it starts just fine now.
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Well, I have a new person I am working with and told my building is due the week of Nov 9th.
Now I am holding my breath on this date AND that the weather holds.
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For all our sakes I hope they come through for you this time
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Yep, weather is turning almost as fast as my stomach!
Snow and rain now, has a week to settle. Being ON TIME would have been nice.
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Well, so far still confirmed the 9th is the load date. I figure a day travel and hoping for Friday on site.
Spent this Friday-Sat on some basic stuff and found my Gen does not want to run now, so no air to fill Dugs tire.
Dug, took much of the time though,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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As posted prior, Dug is a mess with the little flood. If this is anything like what happens in a real flash or otherwise flood I feel very sorry for them.
So I had enough water to fill a 55 barrel and go it filled again at a neighbors. Ran the wally black max power washer for around 2 hours, what a mess!
Dirt was up about 16 inches inside the frame, worse than when I got it! But at least it was just dirt.
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PW really wanted more pressure in, but it ran once going. I used it like a drill until I had channels cut through the much out the bottom. Needless ot say there was "ample" blow back at me and I got covered more than once.
It is still not quite done but starts up OK (little issue with bendix, dirt inside maybe) runs fine and the throttle works good now. You can even see the pump, filters and most parts now.
I had raked under DUG before the cleaning and now the dirt is up to the RR ties it is sitting on. I can run it once I get the tire resealed and back on. It does need some Hyd oil and a service for sure, dated back to 9-19 when I got it.
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Well, still confirmed for this week. I may just rent a telehandler to make it easy. Hard part is it costs as much to get there and back as to rent!
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Well, still confirmed for this week. I may just rent a telehandler to make it easy. Hard part is it costs as much to get there and back as to rent!
Good to hear. What’s the timing on the slab?
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Solid confirmation for this Friday, about 0900. Youngest coming up with me to.
Slab? Will start digging as soon as I have placed things where I need. Want to have room to drive around the forms if needed. Ground does not freeze but can't see getting cement before spring with the road and budget.
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Did you get them to finally eat some of their charges and fees?
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Solid confirmation for this Friday, about 0900. Youngest coming up with me to.
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Get that thing off the truck and laying on the pad and tip back a drink or two. Really happy for you.
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Did you get them to finally eat some of their charges and fees?
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Where I am on that. I split the "fuel fee" and they jumper on that. I just wanted the building here! Final bill was just under 50K, I was expecting over 50 so better for me.
When I cancelled the building insulation, they removed from the doors too (I did not). They are sending that along too, but keep reminding them.
Have 2 neighbors up there with tractors (Case 580 size) and forks if I need help unloading, verified with both this AM.
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that truck pulling in will be a great feeling for you. Make sure you get the packing list and ID parts. As hard as it has been to get the building, it will be worse to get a part next year if you discover it during construction.
Last year went through that at work.
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Well, look what was at my gate when I got up there this AM. 10 that we saw.
Reason for being up there was the building was supposed to get delivered.
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Thought the truck would be there, but he stayed in Reno for the night.
He was on site at 0900 and up the hill we went. Rain and snow tomorrow so timing is good, although at least 6 months late!
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Those last pics were where I had a little issue last winter.
Made it onto the pad with no issues, took me 3 hours to unload. Youngest helped and the driver dove right in too. I was allowed 2 hours and slipped him a C note when done. L45 strained a couple times, but got all 30k off the truck.
Didn't get a chance to check the load out and it needs organizing now to do so. I moved it around some just as the sun went down and covered the one pallet of hardware.
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Congrats!
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:likebutton: Glad it showed up before winter sets in.
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Great news
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Well, the material is on your pad now. Nice when a driver gets involved with the unloading. Long overdue but on-site finally. Happy for you JR , now the work begins.
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The long awaited, way overdue delivery!!! Amazing how little is actually in the truck then when assembled they are huge!!
Congratulations Jr
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Good things come to those who wait (let's not forget he who writes the check). I had doubts that it would show up, sorry. Congratulations JR, will you wait for spring to start assembly?
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Thx guys, sure doesn't look like $70k sitting there.
I will start on the foundation asap and hopefully poor as weather allows. Not real long winters there and they tend to be mild for the most part. It is a 6inch slabe and the pillar locations are 4'x4', way over kill. Plumbing, foam under the living area and a few "little things" I will add.
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Feel happy for you JR. Finally!
So it was 50+20k deposit?
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Feel happy for you JR. Finally!
So it was 50+20k deposit?
Yep, give or take a K here and there.
Couple of trim crates not in the pics. Was going to drone some, but batteries were not happy.
As said, I need to check it all in, stack way better and in a way I have room to work.
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Thank goodness!
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Congrats JR
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Here's a few pics after the building was delivered. I have organized and cleaned some of the pad since this, but it was dark so no pics.
Last pic is the entire property. Looks like I need to recheck my compass points as I thought the pad was set square N-S-E-W.
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Just came back, snow falling about an inch is on the ground. Very nice really until the sun hides.
Finally got ALL the building organized, stuff was all over and hard to inventory. Covered the trim pallets at least, funny how little it look like.
Brought Dugs tire home to repair, just don't seem to get to it when working there.
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That's a really nice view in that last pic. I assume your building will have a big window facing that?
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Looks like ya better get to diggin foundation holes!!!
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That's a really nice view in that last pic. I assume your building will have a big window facing that?
That is view from the porch, living area and both bedrooms.
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Without the clutter;
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Without the clutter;
Cool shot JR
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Without the clutter;
Awesome view for sure!
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Thx guys, that was early 22 I believe.
This guy is coming around all the time from about 1800-2200.
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At the risk of “asking another question” does it blow like a bastard on that pad or are you low enough not to be bothered
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Just came back from a day trip to the ridge, winter is there! Having the DMAX geared right made the trip up the road safer.
View was great, but 22F left my hands numb. Sure not as bad as Sam puts up with but when that little bit of sun was gone! You could see Christmas lights in the valley! I put a couple strings around the gate.
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Took this load of 1.5 foam up for a small project. Then got this metal for another to build at home. Guesses?
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Jib attachment for the skiddy?
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Yep you got it Dave. Already have a 1/4 quick attach plate. Metal is 4x4-3/16 and 3.5x3.5-3/16 both are 10ft. Should give me around 17ft with 3ft for the telescopic part. Max lift I need is well under 500lb.
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Cleaned up Dugs tire after and was about to seal, but it was about 1/3 full of crud. Not having all my tools here I simply took it to the local Less Schwab. They charged $10 to clean and remount, wasn't worth the hassle for me! Dropped it off but ran out of time for mounting it up. Dug started like a champ though. Both it and the kub need a full service.
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Also fixed bad low spots in the cont roof. They held water I wanted to address that. Strapped a 4x4 to the forks on the Kub. Had to do kinda work them out (used a jack before with no luck) but they finally came out OK. (orange marks?)
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I’m with Dave, when do we see foundation holes?
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Yep you got it Dave. Already have a 1/4 quick attach plate. Metal is 4x4-3/16 and 3.5x3.5-3/16 both are 10ft. Should give me around 17ft with 3ft for the telescopic part. Max lift I need is well under 500lb.
Is it going to extend via a ram or just manually move it out?
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Was thinking ram but manual will work fine. Will wrap the first 2-3 inches and probably just have 3 locations, out, in and center. I may add a winch for versatility, have several 2500# laying around.
As to the wind question, I am good. There are the occasional times where its gusty, but on the whole it is good. Facing south with hills around w/e/n. Even a south wind needs to go ever that hill in front you see in the above picture.
No guesses on the foam? Think cold.
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Ok no guesses so I will fess up. I built a place to sleep and stay warmer using 1.5 foam. Impacts space very little and I drop a drop a tarp down both ends keeping what heat I have in some. Was using a larger propane heater that helped, but having 100s of steel sucking it off, well sucked! I now have a little buddy heater that has tipover and low O2 protection. Also using a fold out platform for the bed using an air mattress. I just looked and it was 14f up there. Water in the pot I use was frozen but most other liquids I keep in a cooler and has been no issue for a couple winters now.
TH is in bad shape, have it covered now but needs major work. Right now drying it out after another leak let the rear roof collapse some. I can still use it after I support the damage some. I will attempt a repair when I can get it inside the new building, but getting it up there now that the road is iced over is out. Everything is great in it otherwise, so worth the effort in the long run. (like I need another project)
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I hadn’t given the foam a thought. Sorry
Charles did a full insulation on his sea can with great results I believe. Not sure if that’s worth your efforts.
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I had this foam and it will get used to skirt the TH when here. 1.5in of closed cell foam should work. Idea is to just keep the heat I make.
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Yeah, probably 2k or so to finish out my can. Bu t you could warm it with a candle it’s so well insulated. You lose about 4 inches in inside width overall including the osb and about 2 inches in height. But then you have. Studs and OSB interior to mount things to
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That was 3-4 years ago. Prices have gone nuts since then. Just the 6 or so sheets I used are over $200 new.
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The spray foam was $1.40/sq ft so about $1344 to spray the can.
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Thats not bad but I doubt the same now. I will report on the "box" in a week.
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Thats not bad but I doubt the same now. I will report on the "box" in a week.
You're gonna make that thing so cozy, you won't want to move!
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Have not been up for 3 weeks now. Going to hold off again this weekend as its ski weekend (MLK) and it is still snowing!
I have about 2 trips needed to just get all the stuff up there I have for the build, not including the Cat.
Planning it out as doing the solar first (all there just need some fair weather). Then the well pump and septic as mud allows when digging the foundation.
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Finally made it up, was just gorgous out, but very cold at night. Low 50s while the sun was up, road was good too. Supposed to be close to 0 today, but everything looks sound with little freezing in the cont.
Got the wheel back onto the skid, it fought like heck. Was just how I had it up there trying to line it all up. Started right up, no issues.
Was more of a run up, drop stuff off and such. Just feels good to be there.
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When you gonna start digging footings?
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When I get the EXC up there mostly. Backhoe can get me started.
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When I get the EXC up there mostly. Backhoe can get me started.
What kind of foundation are you doing? Piers, footer and wall? Are you pouring it or having it poured?
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Slab with peir footings for the posts. Way overkill but it is what it is.
I plan on doing the footings and perimeter forms, then have a crew do the slab. Not specked that way but will fudge it.
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It was beautiful up there Saturday. Got really nothing done but dropped off a couple tcases I picked up sorts on the way.
Little town called Milford (closed up really), guy about a mile behind the station.
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Day trip with my youngest today. Unloaded the trailer that was filling up, but kept the NTM bucket to mod. Both the 22ft and the utility were filled so it was needed.
Chain controls up and back, what a pain! Avoided chaining up saying my trailer had "no brakes".
Little update, it was a great trip overall. Trailer unloaded with little real work, just lucky? Almost everything stayed on pallets.
Spent about an hour washing the 22ft before dropping off. Its amazing how the road crud gets on/in everything, at least no salt is used out here.
Then the local carwash would wash my truck until I hosed it off. What a crock, it wasn't that bad and their washes don't do a great job on the Dmax anyway.
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Went up again this weekend. Seems it is a day of unloading and cleanup again. I was not up to 100%, think I need a day for the altitude now.
Snow pack was around 10ft along hwy 80. Road was great otherwise.
Used the Igloo this time, little buddy heater kept it at almost 60 in there. Ran 2x4 along the top, then silver HD tarps. Just roll em up when done.
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Another run up this weekend. Sold the Box Blade, pain to use and with 3 tractors with blades, not needed.
Took down the 10x12 shade building and brought it home. Will replaced the cheap HF unit on side of house. Tired of replacing the fabrics! It was in the way too putting the building parts where I need them. Retarped a few things too.
Glue didn't hold well on the igloo, so I foamed them in/on.
Not the greatest pic, but I thought this was cool.
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Been a couple weeks now, need to get up there and get going again.
Had a few visitors and now its warmed up too. Little guy with the ears is about a daily pic, the other is the first time.
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Your neighbors sure have some odd looking goats lol
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Nieghbors informed me the kitty has been hanging out in the canyon. No biggie for me, but kid nect door have ducks and dogs.
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What in the heck? Took about 2 hours to build, not perfect, but it should work.
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What in the heck? Took about 2 hours to build, not perfect, but it should work.
WTH is that for?
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I have a well over 400' deep that I need to run a pump, hose, safety rope and its wires down into. I will either mount this on a pallet, maybe an A frame of some type to roll the well setup down with. Needs to be taped about every 10 ft or so and needs a spacer near the pump to keep it off the wall.
Didn't have to be perfect (its not). Just OSB discs with scrap wood spacers in about 4in and about 4in wide, just under 48in dia.
Then I can build the well setup and let the tractor lower it down. I can do around 100' each time. Never done this before, but I did stay at a holiday inn sometime back (and watched many videos) cross your fingers!
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Just got back. Pretty good trip but not as much done as I wanted.
Finished wiring the 12v solar system. It is temp as my main will be a 48v system. Running a micro, 20v battery charger, mini fridge and lights don't tax the 200 amp Lifo's at all.
Neighbors almost finish a 20x40 poll barn, no sides, waiting on the roofing. They bugged my about getting to work on my foundation!!
Cleaned out the well head and got the pitless in. HF hole saw kit did a great job on the 1 3/4 hole. Seald it up as I found I was 2 fittings short. Using all SS cept the pitless.
Also got the Skid together. Still needs an oil change so I left the skid plates off. Trying to figure how this guy got up there? Round 6"steel legs on the table, nothing hanging off.
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I have a well over 400' deep that I need to run a pump, hose, safety rope and its wires down into. I will either mount this on a pallet, maybe an A frame of some type to roll the well setup down with. Needs to be taped about every 10 ft or so and needs a spacer near the pump to keep it off the wall.
Didn't have to be perfect (its not). Just OSB discs with scrap wood spacers in about 4in and about 4in wide, just under 48in dia.
Then I can build the well setup and let the tractor lower it down. I can do around 100' each time. Never done this before, but I did stay at a holiday inn sometime back (and watched many videos) cross your fingers!
400 feet is a deep well! Well drillers charge by the foot, I believe, so that was an expense!
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JR, at what depth is your well pump sitting at?
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It was 480 drilled, billed as 450, $22,500. Many wells in the area are 600 and I got 20+ gallon a minute which is good. Sure the head is up now with all the melting.
Will be about 425, water level is supposed to be 290. Then to a tank 75ft up the hill on a 1in line. Running a 2in pipe down for the pressure.
110v pump rated for 450ft @ 10psi. Not an on demand system, will fill the storage when needed. Until the storage tank is plumbed I will just run a hydrant at the head and fill a tote with filtered water. Have to dig a 2 ft deep trench (frost depth) to the storage tank. Pump will get little use and not being on demand should keep it going for many years (hopefully)
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Another day and a 1/2 up there. Right at 200mi each way, sure goes fast after 4 years.
More cleaning inside, put up a HD shelf and started to organize the table I have filled with everything.
Neighbor came up and helped to put in the well pump. Wow, what a nasty 5 hours, yes 5 hours with 2 of us. It was more fighting with the cables and hose than the dropping it in.
The pully worked great and its axle fit right into a mount on the backhoe.
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Got pretty heavy right at the end, down 425ft plus the 2ft frost and the pump body, so closer to 430ft.
Right at the end we called the other neighbor kid who had the little extra muscle we needed and got it set in the pitless. Ran out of time to try it but I did test it before we dropped it down.
Have to wire it now and set the safety rope is all. Still need a box for the controller and found I was short 2 fittings to do the plumbing from the pitless.
1 inch line to the pump, T with a line pointing up the hill to the tank, 1 towards the building and a hydrant there at the well. Everything is stainless cept the pitless (brass)
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Progress :likebutton:
Dumb question but how much would the well driller have charged to drop the pump in place? I’ve never had them NOT do that part.
A well that deep up here would be 5x that cost drilled.
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10-12 K and they use 220v pumps for on demand systems. Thats the norm anyway.
Plan for next trip is the pluming at the head. Run it to clear the system and will let it clear my culvert that is over 1/2 full of crud until I get more rock around the inlet. I will run an inline filter to fill my tote after it clears some.
Oil changes on the equip and stake out the foundation finally.
Really? Mine charged $50 a ft, thought that was pretty standard.
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Double checked, 400’ well was $80k so 4x roughly not 5x I guess and it was only putting out 2 gal/min……. :popcorn:
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So my niegbor who helped me drop the well pump wanted use the skid. Thought sure why not. He had trouble getting it started as he forgot the master battery switch. (that key is attached to the ign key?) Its been a solid machine for about 4 years now, but it needs an oil change.
Get a text today when he was using it a front ram blew a seal and it was overheating. Engine is cooled by the hyd fluid, so one could cause the other) Funny as he told me he has a habit of breaking things he borrows.
Foot controls can be touchy on this and he put the 72 loader bucket on it vs the 60 skid bucket. I also noticed he would hold the controls or lock the brake when he used it with me (which locks everything up) and didn't raise the RPM as normal.
Hoping it is that simple as a ram seal and fluid.
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I feel your pain JR, I won't loan any of my tools/equipment to anybody anymore ... except for a select few people.
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Pretty sure it is just a ram seal on the skid. Came off easy and brought home for repair. Having plugs and a JIS service kit was a must.
Drained and bagged it, now home for the reseal.
Seems to run fine. I think the overheating is the radiator is still full of crud from the flood. Need water to clear that that leads to the next post.
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Got the well all plumbed. Left a 1in pipe going towards the building and one pointing towards the hill with the tank.
Hydrant set up, then got wired. Brought a 2000 watt generator. This WREN pures like a kitten and started on the 2nd pull with years old gas.
The pump pulled more than it could give though, went into overload 3 times. Pump seemed to be doing its thing, but never got water to the surface. Controller never pop the circut breaker so I guess its working fine. With all that just dumped in drain rock for the hydrant, covered with fabric and filled the hole in.
Nieghbor has my 4500 watt gen and the 48v/5000watt solar inverter is not ready yet, so next trip hopefully I will see some water up top!
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Very nice, and one huge leap forward!
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Water now?
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Need a little more power than I have on hand Dave (well ready anyway).
Time to mark out the foundation and get some rock up here for the septic.
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Got a few things in but not heading up this weekend, oldest boy graduates Saturday.
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Congrats. One step closer to the empty nest
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Congratulation on the graduation.
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/CtKFMX5JYMz/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Wow
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/CtKFMX5JYMz/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Wow
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...Out of control. That state is on the final lift on their rollercoaster where the backdown hill side has fallen off...
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Any way to get more while they throw it around like it going out of style.
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Yep, heard about that, been brought up it is totally illegal.
I think NY was going to try that, no go.
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Guys, thinking about getting another dump trailer. Things have cooled down some and see them all over now.
Most run right in the 8k area for a 6x12, 10k. I seem to recall a couple of you guys have a factory nearby that sell direct, or you have an "IN" to get them.
Still kinda looking local, but a little road trip would be great with boys out of school.
Thx
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They are pretty darn handy that for sure
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When I close on selling my farm (Serious buyer looking this coming week) I'll be selling mine. I'm admittedly too far to come but its a 17,500. 12-footer. You want them shorter unless you're hauling brush. Just a little gravel will overload almost all of them
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Thats why I'm looking for a 6x12, great size, figure 2-3ft walls. Run a 8in board along the top to save it. Think I can get a 14k an they badge as a 10k. Many states now are adopting this 10k trailer rule unless you have a CDL.
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Haven't made it up this month at all, kinda busy. All of these are 1 week apart,,,,,,,,,,
Boys out of school, youngest got a 4Runner,
Older boy graduated, of course I had to attend that!
Wifes BD (yes I got her stuff/card we went to local casino for dinner and I won a little)
Anniversary (right?)
My birthdays on the 30th (65!!!)
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Thats why I'm looking for a 6x12, great size, figure 2-3ft walls. Run a 8in board along the top to save it. Think I can get a 14k an they badge as a 10k. Many states now are adopting this 10k trailer rule unless you have a CDL.
JR, my trailer is a 6x 12. I often wish it was 7 wide as extra foot wide would be good. I use three 2x6 on the top of metal. Really helps with the unsecured load laws. I need to get stake pockets on the end gate for additional height at times.
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Finally got back up there after a busy June. Left half what I wanted to bring up home, such is life!
Road was grown over so spent a couple hours on that. Need to make a real drag and spray it some. If I could keep the growth down a drag would be way easier.
Did a full service on the Kubota, right at 2500hrs now, runs great! Oil was about the worst. Hydro looked great but still think I should change the filters. It need a couple bucket links up front. Pricing now as the bucket is pretty sloppy on tilt. Replaced 4 pins last year but its the links and pins. Pins are not pricy but I think the links will be. I did add a grab bar on the right side. I had had a strap up there as when driving I would push down with my arm and it would get pretty sore (nerve type). Simple conduit and a hammer with self tapping bolts, works great!
Didn't work on Dug at all. Never got to the ram rebuild but I did get the kits in. He will be needed soon!
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Then I marked off the foundation to really locate it for some digging. Ended up moving it over about 5ft into the rear wall, then twisting it away from the road. I needed the extra room to try to make the county happy with a fire turn around that will never fit unless I cover the natural water run off. We will see.
I now have 15ft on the rear and left side. Wall is pretty solid in the back there, maybe push back some later. However the left side wall (west) near the front will be pushed way back and will really open it up.
I then dug a couple test trenches down about 2ft, final will be around 3 but still need to final level and bring in base. These were both in the rear where it was cut down, so still some hard stuff under there.
The Kubota struggled with a couple rocks, which I figured. The breaker will come in handy for these spots and I need the Cat Exc up there. The Kubota's breakout is 4500lb, the Cats is almost 10K, so between the that and the breaker I should be fine. South/West corner is right next to the pillars are stacked (white stake right under the septic)
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Dang, no updates here but I was up a couple weeks back. Thats the weekend I felt like crud and ended up in the hospital for 4 days! They still don't know what I had????
Got a load to take up, but stuff around here has kept me busy and I have to save for cement now.
Figure I need 1300' ft of #5, about 3-400 of #4 and a lot of stakes. I have found about 40 so far and a bender I got for a C note. Had a line a about a 150 but they were sold before I got there, bummed.
I need to get the truck bedslider down as I have a good load to take up. Kinda eyeing another 20 ft container too, but looking for a real deal and I can haul myself.
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Did score about 60 more stakes, so think I am good now. I had some, bought about 100 and got a bender to boot.
With how I am doing the foundation (3 parts) I should be good.
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Finally heading back up in the AM, been 4 weeks!
Got a good load of stuff from stakes to fork extensions.
Wondering is its still all there? Showing 50f high and 32f low, not bad.
I did get started on this, but ran out of steam and time.
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Finally heading back up in the AM, been 4 weeks!
Got a good load of stuff from stakes to fork extensions.
Wondering is its still all there? Showing 50f high and 32f low, not bad.
I did get started on this, but ran out of steam and time.
Work: It's never done
And
It's good for you
Have to add that to my "Axioms of work" wisdom/knowledge.
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Trip up this weekend went well. Loaded up the rebuilt slider and it never even burped.
Fork extensions, tarps, rebar bender and about 60 stakes in there too. Need a few more stakes though, to many shorty's.
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Haven't been up in a month, hate getting sick I'm to young!
Rearranged the building moving it all up to the front edge away from the foundation work. Everything started right up, love good equipment.
Worked on the water runoff, cutting a swale along the west edge. North wall needs addressing to as you can see the runoff down the face. I have a ditch cut up there, but think this is just above it. Looks like some shovel work,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Lots more room now, needed to address the tarps on the building hardware. I may move the sheetmetal onto the container roof.
No pic of the retarp, got dark but a single 18x24 tarp covered it all fine when I move the roll up door rails up front.
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Chop chop! Time to get crackin’!
Looking good JR
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Its winterizing for now. Cant see digging holes for snow and water to fill.
Will get the septic in and address the run off issues. Actually looking at another container.
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Another trip in the books. Good to be back on it.
Just did lots of organizing, dropped off the compactor and the repaired ram for Dug. Ran out of daylight and energy on this trip.
Did manage to repair the Kubota's brush guard. Had a bend that has been bugging me and I want to put a flood light down there, 16in fits just right. Used a new vevor porta power. Had the right adapters to do the job.
Filled up the Dmax for way less than Kali prices. With the big tank and being the daily anymore I hardy ever need to top off down here.
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Dug is back up, finally got the ram on. Now to figure a 12v servo to run the quick attach on it and the Kubota. Hydro would be a pain.
Tarps holding up OK. Got the 12m HD this time.
Road was slick as heck coming in, melted before I left.
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So what’s the tentative time frame on foundation and erection if this building?
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Spring for the foundation, building summer. Living quarters right after. With the weather turning I can't see digging the foundation now.
Until then I have the solar and septic to finish. Funding and being on site are the main issues. All is paid for but the foundation and living area.
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JR, do you think your fill has compacted enough for foundation installation? Might do some testing and bring in a big compactor if needed. Would hate to have things settle on you after putting in so much time and work.
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The time has been good for this. At least 2 seasons to settle and compact more. Most of the build is near the rear and west side. The main fill is a turn around/parking area or will be the patio area.
The 2 test digs I filled are still requiring a hammer to break some of it up.
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Went up Sunday just for once over. With all the holidays I hadn't been for a few weeks.
Was just gorgeous! 50f, sunny and everything was just as I left it. Tractors all started fine and I found my laser/level setup charger that was MIA.
No sign of any real rain or snow, lots of horse poo, but none sighted this trip. Reset the trail cam as the solar rechargeable batteries didn't cut it.
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Peaceful!
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Another great weekend up there. Tad on the chili side at night (30f) but manageable with the igloo and a buddy heater.
Kubota gave me a run with the battery acting up. After 4 years the corrosion has done its job and we had a no start issue. Jumping it was a joy being in the container, but I had 20' cables. My little jumper box did no good with the corrosion and even though this has a jumper plug, I don't have the lead for that (will remedy)
Battery tested fine along with charging system. But the cables and such were in need of attention. I had to run to a nieghbor to borrow a brush. Cleaned everything including grounds, coated much of the contacts with grease. Now she starts right up.
Everything else ran fine but the gen, so no well output yet. That and septic (my real goal this weekend). Lots of finding stuff in the container (did I mention its a mess?)
Road is more than clear, no ice at all and someone dragged it so the TH needs to get up here soon. (no more container sleeping?)
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Sounds like good building weather. Get the toy hauler up there and then let the building begin. Looks like you searched out a very nice spot to spend your time doing whatever. Work a few hours, tinker a few, take a nap and start over. Or not. :beercheers:
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Yup, we are patiently waiting to see a foundation go in….
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Yup, we are patiently waiting to see a foundation go in….
So am I. Looking for a good price on rebar and getting the Exc up there.
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Canceled trip for this weekend. Supposed to be almost 10ft of snow over the top! NV is never that bad, but Kali side sucks (more ways than 1)
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Canceled trip for this weekend. Supposed to be almost 10ft of snow over the top! NV is never that bad, but Kali side sucks (more ways than 1)
Smart call JR...Hate to have to launch a search and rescue for ya up there. Your place might as well be the summit of Everest right now!
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Had that happen before. I was fine, but a kid who was with me parents called search/rescue. I asked what was up when I came down of Saddleback mountian in Scal (great off roading), err 45 years ago!
Would see guys jump off in hang gliders from there, now thats crazy!
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Dang wish it would warm up some. 20s at night are just a little much for me in the container.
Is a nice 50 or so during the day so I get some done. Kubota still giving me issues. Pretty sure its the battery and will change the clow plugs to. It runs, then get rough and dies, so maybe injectors? All are easy to fix and crazy priced.
Got a good foot of snow last week, pretty much melted now. Also had a visitor passing through, nice sized critter.
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Dang camera keeps going off. 10-15 pics a day and nothing. Not sure if its the sun or something going by the lens fast.
Picked up a load of #5 rebar this weekend. I need 65 to go around the foundation and a few more for the massive footings. I got 73 I think for $800, less than 1/2 the retail price. Finding #4 is easy, just need that to wrap the together.
My youngest found these thrown over a wall by the freeway, think almost 100 of them. Just the right shape to for wrapping the #5.
Plan for this week load up the trailer with stuff to leave up there and get a battery for the kubota. Still have to fix the generator (got a kit off amazon) thats blowing smoke like the float is stuck. Got a little ecoflow that works good to. Ran all my stuff last time and it runs a little compressor I got too. not having air up there is an issue with a few things (flat on the gehl). Of course if the gen gets running OK then its a non issue.
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Nice Find.
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Plan is to take a bunch of goodies up this weekend. I am keeping too much stuff here and adding to it. Didn't get the bucket nor the pole done for last weekend and hoping the weather is OK.
Gen repair parts, rebar and the bent rebar son found.
Getting the bucket ready for the new ears, cleaned off the old whatever mount. Then ran out of acetylene, might try propane and trade the tank for another ox.
Welded a plate on a 6in pole for the solar array so it swivels, giving 20% more power or so. Just 8 panels for now, 200watts each.
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Wish this would stop. Boys off for the week and I have a load to get up there.
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Heading up in the AM for the day, kids back in school monday and to cold right now for overnights in the cube.
Anyway, got a goo trailer load to go up. Just missed a load of 4x4 welded cement wire today for free. Was twenty 4x20 sheets in town.
Odd stuff like solar mount (1/2) BBQ, and that load of #5 rebar. Bucket is coming back again. Just couldn't finish it, rained when I went out but got a little done.
Also got a nice PC rack that will be the home for my solar setup. That will clear the paint cabinet for, paint!
Got some done on the solar mount cap. Had to spread the pipe so it goes over the other 6in pipe. You can't just buy this, it goes from 6 to 8 inch!
Bucket got it mounts fully removed and a bar added to move it around (works great!)
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Got a load delivered to the site. 85 #5 rebar, bunch of #4 bends, cabinet, material lift and more. Bucket came back as I didn't finish the mount.
Great weather, mid 50s during the day but flipping cold when the sun sets. Not Sam cold, but too much for me now.
Can't get the kabota to run at all now, still thinking fuel issue. Cranks and sounds fine with a new battery. Found these cracks in the wheels. Will need to address, welding should be fine.
Gehl fired right up but it what looks like a hydraulic leak. Everything works great otherwise. Oh the battery switch went bad, but got a couple new ones.
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For you guys with shops these material lifts are great. Used they go for around $500, but saves your back. I use to load the trailer too.
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Nice day at the ridge.
Got the Kubota worked out and running. Was the fuel system, just old and some air got in. Cleaned up the lines, rerouting and cutting ends off. Checked the pump and cracked a couple injector lines, runs like it should again.
Speaking of fuel, Dug was leaking and needs a service. Filters are 4 years old. Leak was and injector return line is all and had some line. Tire came off again (same one) so I need to clean the up and reseal. Time for a "bead blaster" the 16.5 don't seat easy.