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12 places to invest money in the next election cycles
« on: March 16, 2019, 08:25:26 AM »
This is, indeed a Coffee Induced Early Morning Rant.  Up at 0300 and well caffinated

I'm am sick and tired, no, very angry that supposed Republican's continue to fail to support our President.  The facts are clear and the law is clear.

You can research border facts here.  https://www.fairus.org/issues/illegal-immigration

Ken and I live in border states and can attest to the degrading cities that are a result of unchecked mass illegal immigration.

These so called republicans voted against the president and its time to send them a message and send them home for not supporting the most conservative president we've had since Regan.  I'll come back and update with their re-election years since they werent up for reelection in 2020 they thought they could weather the storm.  We will not forget.

Especially Rubio.  That jackass should have learned from his failed presidential bid.  The only reason he lost is because people remembered he signed on to the Gang of Eight amnesty bill.


 Here are the 12 GOP senators who defied Trump and voted in favor of the resolution and their statements. 



    Rand Paul of Kentucky: "Every single Republican I know decried President Obama's use of executive power to legislate. We were right then. But the only way to be an honest officeholder is to stand up for the same principles no matter who is in power."

    Mitt Romney of Utah: "We experienced a similar erosion of congressional authority with President Obama's unilateral immigration orders — which I strenuously opposed. In the case before us now, where Congress has enacted specific policy, to consent to an emergency declaration would be both inconsistent with my beliefs and contrary to my oath to defend the constitution."

    Marco Rubio of Florida: "We have an emergency at our border, which is why I support the president''s use of forfeiture funds and counter-drug money to build a wall. However, I cannot support moving funds that Congress explicitly appropriated for construction and upgrades of our military bases. This would create a precedent a future president may abuse to jumpstart programs like the Green New Deal, especially given the embrace of socialism we are seeing on the political left."

    Mike Lee of Utah: "This is not about the president. This is not about my disagreement with or disapproval of the president or his approach to border security or his approach to build a barrier along our southern border. I think all those things need to happen. But this law, Mr. President, is wrong. It's not President Trump's fault. It's Congress'. We need to change it."

    Roy Blunt of Missouri: "This issue will be settled in the courts. That could take months and result in future Presidents having emergency authority to use in other ways...I was aggressively opposed to the Obama administration's attempts to circumvent Congress's appropriating authority to prop up Obamacare. The same principle should apply regardless of which party occupies the White House."

    Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania: "This is not about border security.It's about the process the president has chosen for funding that policy...The biggest concern is that it's very, very important that we honor the constitutional responsibility that is assigned to Congress to determine spending."

    Lisa Murkowski of Alaska: "I take very seriously my oath to uphold the Constitution, and my respect for the balance within the separation of powers. Article 1 provides that the power to appropriate lies with the legislative branch...We can and must address the President's very legitimate concerns over border security, but we must not do it at the expense of ceding Congress' power of the purse."

    Susan Collins of Maine: "By declaring a national emergency, the President's action comes into direct conflict with Congress' authority to determine the appropriation of funds — a power vested in Congress by the framers of our Constitution in Article 1, Section IX. That is why this issue is not about strengthening our border security, a goal that I support..Rather, Mr. President, it is a solemn occasion involving whether or not this body will stand up for its institutional prerogatives and will support the separation of powers enshrined in our Constitution."

    Roger Wicker of Mississippi: "I am concerned about the precedent an emergency declaration sets, which might empower a future liberal President to declare emergencies to enact gun control or to address 'climate emergencies,' or even to tear down the wall we are building today...The system of checks and balances established by the Founders has preserved our democracy. It is essential that we protect this balance even when it is frustrating or inconvenient."

    Rob Portman of Ohio: "The Congress, not the president, has the sole authority to determine how to spend the money. Although there is a crisis on the southern border, we are not in war time. Today I will vote to support the disapproval resolution."

    Lamar Alexander of Tennessee: "I support the president on border security...But his declaration to take an additional $3.6 billion that Congress has appropriated for military hospitals, barracks and schools is inconsistent with the US Constitution that I swore an oath to support and defend...This declaration is a dangerous precedent."

    Jerry Moran of Kansas: "I share President Trump's goal of securing our borders, but expanding the powers of the presidency beyond its constitutional limits is something I cannot support."
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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2019, 09:09:35 AM »
I think mike Lee is pretty correct on the issue.   I don’t want this to become yet another avenue for our government to overstep its bounds.  Congress just needs to fund the wall on its own.   

I probably would have voted no also. 


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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2019, 10:51:09 AM »
Dave I don’t disagree that it could be a slippery slope but it’s the current law.

The law is clear and you can read it here.

https://fairus.org/issue/fact-sheet-national-emergencies-military-construction-authority-and-border-barrier

It’s not trumps fault congress passed the law. But he damn sure intends to use it to accomplish the mission.


It’s congress’s job to change the law if they don’t like it. They all talk about ignoring immigration laws but none have the guts to actually legislate a change. (Patriot act also needs to be revisited.  Secret courts and invasion of privacy are serious threats to our democratic republic) Until then it’s not within their purview. That belongs to the courts. Just because Lee might think it could be used in the future by a dem and doesn’t want to set precedent doesn’t mean Dems won’t do it anyway. Just look at all the illegal executive order as that BHO issued. Dems do what it takes to win, period.

They all knew it was going to wind up in SCOTUS anyway. 

That’s one thing I can say about the Dems. They march in lock step. Which is why we keep getting our ass kicked because limp wristed, no backbone republicans “have a conscience”


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« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2019, 02:09:44 PM »
I agree 100% Charles. It doesn't matter what Trump does, the Dems aren't going to follow suit. They push the limits non stop. That's what scotus is there for.
..and they are trying to apply their opinions of what constitutes an emergency... again, scotus' job.
When will these repubs realize that they're losing the war by trying to look noble, when behind closed doors they're all the same.
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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2019, 03:21:43 PM »
 :popcorn:

Keep voting, yep that will fix this mess.... :rolleyes:

Sorry to be a negative nelly here but explain to me exactly what voting has done for us lately (like say last 30 years or longer heck let’s go a century back in fact). There’s no voting our way outta this mess & you can take that to the bank.

I might add both Charles and Ken have secondary homes they are working on currently, so please tell me I’m wrong.  :tongue:
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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2019, 04:12:36 PM »
I don't think you're wrong, but voting is all we have that isn't violent. We (actually, people who voted) put Trump in, which paused the far left movement. You think he hasn't stalled the far left movement?
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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2019, 04:24:28 PM »
I don't think you're wrong, but voting is all we have that isn't violent. We (actually, people who voted) put Trump in, which paused the far left movement. You think he hasn't stalled the far left movement?

Honestly, I’m not sure about Trump so we’ll see. But didn’t the republicans have control of both houses his first two years. Trump did campaign on a wall, where is that wall again? Also worth noting Trump is caving to big business to bring in more immigrants thru work visas. I get that they are here legally but until you change that ridiculous law about being a citizen of this country if you’re born here the reality is we’re still on same path. So pause, that’s doubtful and I’m
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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2019, 04:25:52 PM »
Shawn, always have a backup plan...and an exit strategy.  We either fix it voting or we wind up like Venezuela.

I agree with Ken.  The election of Trump was exactly that.  And what has the RINO and Libs completely freaked out, to think the populous is trying to take back the swamp and slide down to socialism.

I do not think we can convert enough people to conservative values to overcome the public education system which is stacked in favor or brainwashing our children.  We have to take back education as well, which is why Besty DeVos was so hated as Trump's pick for Ed Sec.

In the end, it may come to violence, it may come to the collapse of america or it may be the second coming.  I plan on being prepared in any event.
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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2019, 05:01:31 PM »
In the end, it may come to violence, it may come to the collapse of america or it may be the second coming.  I plan on being prepared in any event.

Copy that....  :likebutton:
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« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2019, 12:01:06 AM »
TRN, I'm in one of those states too and I get so much of it in the bay area.

Also think it is going to get worse before it gets better. That part may not be voting, but real fighting I fear. Hear they are talking about 16 year olds voting now. That would sink us fast, even my daughter thinks its bad. Now they are being called new arrivals too. And arriving at 75K a month!!

Lee turned, but lets face it what support did he get? Daily bombarding can ware anyone down, but I still don't agree with what he did.

Almost all of them hate Trump, he is an outsider and that scares them.

God help us.
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« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2019, 12:36:46 AM »
JR, if I were The Lord, I would sit back and watch it burn. I mean, that's what was promised, so why not now? Just sucks that other large empires that fell, never came back. .. that I know of, but I also flunked kindergarten, so there's that.
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« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2019, 01:00:51 AM »
JR, if I were The Lord, I would sit back and watch it burn. I mean, that's what was promised, so why not now? Just sucks that other large empires that fell, never came back. .. that I know of, but I also flunked kindergarten, so there's that.
Dave, you get that recipe from a trusted source? Hope it didn't come from a taco Bell commercial, or similar. ;)
I just read about it from a guy who watched a show that may have been spongebob or something. Who knows. But it did taste good


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