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Title: They don't make them like they use to
Post by: oklawall on January 21, 2018, 02:30:38 PM: Growing up my grandfather had a several diffrent guns but the one I loved was his Winchester 1886 which my cousin got after he passed and sold for drug money some years later :angry: Well when Winchester said they would make a reproduction of it I went to my LGS and placed one on order. Winchester was some what off on when they would be produced, I waited 2 1/2 years but it did come in. I don't like waiting! Took it out and shot 20 round of 45 70 now my right shoulder is black, blue and red but was total worth the wait. I guess that steel butt plate and 45 70 round was made for someone with no feeling in their shoulder or back in the day those guys shoulders could take a bunch more pounding
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Post by: KensAuto on January 21, 2018, 02:41:03 PM: Nice!! but you know the rules, right?
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on January 21, 2018, 03:28:21 PM: POIDH (including the shoulder)
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Post by: Nate on January 21, 2018, 04:23:16 PM: ^^^^what these 2 said!^^^^^^
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Post by: cudakidd53 on January 21, 2018, 04:45:13 PM: What they said AND figure out a way to post that fresh burnt powder smell!
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Post by: stlaser on January 21, 2018, 05:16:24 PM: Sounds like you need to review said firearm.....
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Post by: Flyin6 on January 21, 2018, 07:15:03 PM: Love those 45/70's
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Post by: JR on January 21, 2018, 10:11:25 PM: Always wanted one with the octagon barrel, some day.
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 21, 2018, 10:41:57 PM: Picture or it’s didn’t happen

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Post by: JR on January 21, 2018, 11:14:16 PM: What is the Tap Talk issue showing a ? for an ' ??
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Post by: oklawall on January 22, 2018, 03:08:33 PM: Added pictures and my shoulder still hurts
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Post by: KensAuto on January 22, 2018, 03:36:37 PM: LOL !!
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Post by: stlaser on January 22, 2018, 03:37:57 PM: That’s a nice looking rifle, I like the wood & the discoloring of the action

Do you know if that will handle the hot bear loads? After viewing the picture of your shoulder it got me thinking about the bear loads I bought but never shot for our trip up north last summer.
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Post by: JR on January 22, 2018, 03:47:39 PM: Whats with all the fur? Heck thats not bad, didn't even break the skin.

I like the finish also, my 30-30 has a similar finish.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on January 22, 2018, 05:50:38 PM: Reminds me of my shoulder after sighting in my 460wby

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Title: Re: They don't make them like they use to
Post by: oklawall on January 22, 2018, 06:05:57 PM: Quote from: stlaser on January 22, 2018, 03:37:57 PM
That’s a nice looking rifle, I like the wood & the discoloring of the action

Do you know if that will handle the hot bear loads? After viewing the picture of your shoulder it got me thinking about the bear loads I bought but never shot for our trip up north last summer.

Thanks, the wood and case harded reciver is why I always loved and wanted that rifle. I credit my grandfather with my love of hunting, fishing and outdoors. Not sure what a hot bear load is but that is from 49 grains of powder with a 350 grain hollow point sitting on top.
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Post by: stlaser on January 22, 2018, 06:12:00 PM: It looks like your gun is listed

https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=151
Title: Re: They don't make them like they use to
Post by: oklawall on January 22, 2018, 06:14:28 PM: Quote from: JR on January 22, 2018, 03:47:39 PM
Whats with all the fur? Heck thats not bad, didn't even break the skin.

I like the finish also, my 30-30 has a similar finish.

Real men grow hair on their chest! LOL I still have full range of motion of my arm. What gets me is I also have a Henery Golden big boy in 45 70 and shooting it didn't cause any kind of mark. Not sure if it is the brass vs harden reciever or that the barrel is 2 inches longer on the winchester or both that caused it to kick more.
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Post by: oklawall on January 22, 2018, 06:17:37 PM: Quote from: TexasRedNeck on January 22, 2018, 05:50:38 PM
Reminds me of my shoulder after sighting in my 460wby

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Never shot a 460wby but I would say that the 45 70 isn't a round you go shot several 100 rounds in a weekend.
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Post by: oklawall on January 22, 2018, 06:22:50 PM: Quote from: stlaser on January 22, 2018, 06:12:00 PM
It looks like your gun is listed

https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=151

Those are some impressive looking numbers for that big of a round. At the range the 1st few rounds I shot everyone kind of stopped and looked :cool:
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Post by: oklawall on January 22, 2018, 06:30:02 PM: Just in case someone doesn't know what a 45 70 goverment looks like from left to right 556, 308 4570
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Post by: stlaser on January 22, 2018, 06:34:52 PM: Quote from: oklawall on January 22, 2018, 06:17:37 PM
Quote from: TexasRedNeck on January 22, 2018, 05:50:38 PM
Reminds me of my shoulder after sighting in my 460wby

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Never shot a 460wby but I would say that the 45 70 isn't a round you go shot several 100 rounds in a weekend.

I know the loads probably weren’t as heavy but think about those old timers who used to hunt buffalo for skins. Recall that scene in dances with wolves?
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on January 22, 2018, 06:45:19 PM: Yup. The 460 has a decent pad. IIRC 117grn RL15 and 400 gr Barnes TSX

About $6 a round

Thats a nice looking gun and round.

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Post by: TexasRedNeck on January 22, 2018, 06:46:07 PM: Love Quigley

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Post by: KensAuto on January 22, 2018, 08:58:24 PM: Classic^^^

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Post by: Flyin6 on January 22, 2018, 09:00:57 PM: Hmmm, Bruised shoulder after a few shots from a .22...

Must be an Air Force guy :shocked: :wink:
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Post by: dave945 on January 22, 2018, 09:33:45 PM: I didn’t even comment on this thread and he has to disparage the Air Force. And to correct you, I’ve never gotten a bruised shoulder from a .22, I fireit from the hip like a real warrior, I saw that on Rambo!! :cool:
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Post by: oklawall on January 22, 2018, 10:01:10 PM: Quote from: stlaser on January 22, 2018, 06:34:52 PM
Quote from: oklawall on January 22, 2018, 06:17:37 PM
Quote from: TexasRedNeck on January 22, 2018, 05:50:38 PM
Reminds me of my shoulder after sighting in my 460wby

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Never shot a 460wby but I would say that the 45 70 isn't a round you go shot several 100 rounds in a weekend.

I know the loads probably weren’t as heavy but think about those old timers who used to hunt buffalo for skins. Recall that scene in dances with wolves?

That is what I was think 20 rounds did that what would it look like if I shot all day long!
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Post by: oklawall on January 22, 2018, 10:03:24 PM: Quote from: TexasRedNeck on January 22, 2018, 06:45:19 PM
Yup. The 460 has a decent pad. IIRC 117grn RL15 and 400 gr Barnes TSX

About $6 a round

Thats a nice looking gun and round.

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Thanks I may need to get a pad for this thing. Right now it only was a good old fashioned steel button plate
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Post by: oklawall on January 22, 2018, 10:08:28 PM: Quote from: TexasRedNeck on January 22, 2018, 06:46:07 PM
Love Quigley

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Great movie.
My grandfather's rifle had a ladder sight on the tang but Winchester put a safety back there so I can't put one on there.
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Post by: oklawall on January 22, 2018, 10:13:59 PM: Quote from: Flyin6 on January 22, 2018, 09:00:57 PM
Hmmm, Bruised shoulder after a few shots from a .22...

Must be an Air Force guy :shocked: :wink:

Oh really! What is the largest thing you have shot off?

When you get up to ICBM we can talk!
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Post by: oklawall on January 22, 2018, 10:17:50 PM: Quote from: dave945 on January 22, 2018, 09:33:45 PM
I didn’t even comment on this thread and he has to disparage the Air Force. And to correct you, I’ve never gotten a bruised shoulder from a .22, I fireit from the hip like a real warrior, I saw that on Rambo!! :cool:

Remember I'm Air Force also
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Post by: Flyin6 on January 22, 2018, 10:24:01 PM: Quote from: dave945 on January 22, 2018, 09:33:45 PM
I didn’t even comment on this thread and he has to disparage the Air Force. And to correct you, I’ve never gotten a bruised shoulder from a .22, I fireit from the hip like a real warrior, I saw that on Rambo!! :cool:
I'm Armee
I'm always gonna take a shot at zoomies
Just in my nature I guess! ;-)
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Post by: Flyin6 on January 22, 2018, 10:24:46 PM: Quote from: oklawall on January 22, 2018, 10:17:50 PM
Quote from: dave945 on January 22, 2018, 09:33:45 PM
I didn’t even comment on this thread and he has to disparage the Air Force. And to correct you, I’ve never gotten a bruised shoulder from a .22, I fireit from the hip like a real warrior, I saw that on Rambo!! :cool:

Remember I'm Air Force also
I did!

Was taking the shot at you 2! ;-)
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Post by: dave945 on January 22, 2018, 10:31:37 PM: I got so used to thinking I was th only Air Force guy around, I just took it for granted he was talking about me.
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Post by: JR on January 23, 2018, 12:36:49 AM: Think Quigley shot a little longer round, a 45-110. Remember that powder was not what is today.

He commented in the movie referring to the 45-70, "this one shoots a tad further"
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on January 23, 2018, 06:03:31 AM: Quote from: oklawall on January 22, 2018, 10:13:59 PM

Oh really! What is the largest thing you have shot off?

other than his mouth??? :stickpoke
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Post by: Bob Smith on January 23, 2018, 12:01:17 PM: That is a very good looking rig, sorry it wounds on the wrong end. The style /shape of the stock could be causing part of the bruising, along with the metal butt plate. I have a couple of Ruger falling block rifles in 45/70 and a T/C Contender hand gun with 14" barrel also in 45/70. One of the Rugers is a stainless with laminated wood for hunting the wet side of Washington. I started with the handgun but it is a bit of a challenge to hold on target.
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Post by: stlaser on January 23, 2018, 12:49:03 PM: Contender in 45-70, how cool!
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Post by: Bob Smith on January 23, 2018, 02:10:09 PM: Yes the Contender and Encore systems from T/C are very fun. I started with the Contender and a .41 mag barrel, bought a .410 shot/.45 colt for the travel trailer and the list kept growing. Then bought an Encore frame with a 7mm/08 handgun barrel. They are all fun to shoot and with the rifle stock and longer tubes can be good for hunting. Only bad thing with them is barrels keep following me home.
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Post by: stlaser on January 23, 2018, 02:53:39 PM: Once upon a time I had a contender pistol in 30-06, I really am not a fan of hand cannons.

I do however currently have a G2 with 45-70 & .50 cal muzzleloader, custom stock etc and I really like it for hunting.
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Post by: JR on January 23, 2018, 03:19:53 PM: A heavy gun will not kick as hard. I have an original Mac 10 in 45acp (closed bolt) and it hardly kicks at all being it goes at around 8lbs.

Maybe just slide a nice gell pad on that 45-70 when you shoot.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on January 23, 2018, 09:42:00 PM: A P Pad is all he needs

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Post by: Flyin6 on January 23, 2018, 09:57:38 PM: Quote from: dave945 on January 22, 2018, 10:31:37 PM
I got so used to thinking I was th only Air Force guy around, I just took it for granted he was talking about me.
I lump all you zoomies together...I'm Armee, that's just the way we roll!