Author Topic: John Deere 2720 (Read 12977 times)

Flyin6 · « **on:** March 24, 2017, 06:06:36 PM »

Here we go again...

This is what was:

(2014 John Deere 1025)

Flyin6 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 24, 2017, 06:08:01 PM »

And here is what is to come:

2012 John Deere 2720

Flyin6 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 24, 2017, 06:28:13 PM »

OK, why get rid of a newer tractor in favor of an older tractor you ask?

Good question!

With the farm growing and the tasks increasing I simply outgrew the 1025. It is really just a lawn mower for the drive, and some area we frequent in the fields, while the rest of it gets bush hogged with my 4720 JD Tractor.

The little 1025 has an interim tier 4 emissions compliant engine. That measn the EPA is involved in the creation of this thing. That means the design is created by tree huggers who all share the same lack of common sense. The older 2720 has none of that nonsense!

The 1025's loader can hoist just 500 pounds, and I can tell you, I have never been impressed by its loader's performance. It was its absolute limit just lifting the sawmill head onto the tracks, and then only did it with a bucket curl and not by muscling it into place. The 2720 can lift around 1100 pounds. Above that, my 4720 lifts around 2400 lbs, and I think my Case 1150B lifts lifts 7 tons or something ridiculous like that. Anything over that and I'll call a bro from Ft. Campbell to fly a Chinook up and give me a hand!

The 2720 has 31 horsepower, while the 1025 has 23. Pulling a 62" deck the 1025 labors in three week old farm grass/weed growth. I operated a 2720 in the past with a 72" deck that didn't know the mower deck was cutting, it just pulverized everything!

My 1025 had a 62" deck, the 2720 has a 72" heavy steel deck

This 2720 was a left over from a failed JD store that lost it in inventory. It was discovered in a barn. Although it is 5 years old, it comes with J Deere's new 6 year zero deductible powertrain warranty and the 2 year bumper to bumper (Which I definitely use!)

The dealer discounted all this so much it was right down there with the cost of the 1025, and much, much cheaper than the current two series tractors.

So it's an excellent buy!

And I scored on a loader as well. The new replacement loader, a H-130 that retrofits to this tractor lifts 717 pounds. This dealer had one 200CX loader left over as well, still in a crate. That loader is rated to lift over 1100 lbs, so quite a bit of difference right there. When I get my next implement, which will likely be a wood chipper, and hoping to get like an eight inch one, this tractor will be able to pull it. So when I push over the trees with Sarge, I'll buck the root ball, then carry it off with the 4720, grab onto the tree with the new grapple, carry the thing up to the work site, then buck the branches, and grind them up on the spot, and haul the log off to my sawmill. I'll use the wood chippings for my trail system. Right now we are building in our first walking trail, a couple miles long, called "Ephesians Trail" where you can read and study the whole book of the Ephesians during your stroll.

So new tractor it is!

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #3 on:** March 24, 2017, 07:28:58 PM »

BIG thumbs up for pre emission. Why I bought my 2012 L series

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Wilbur · « **Reply #4 on:** March 24, 2017, 08:01:13 PM »

I'm just laughing they gave you a warranty! They don't know about this website do they? Or are you part of their heavy testing group now?

Good luck with it! I completely get the decision!

rpar86 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 24, 2017, 09:04:15 PM »

I'm wondering why he bought another JD with all the cursin and troubles they've caused you...

Speaking of JD -- came across this the other day and thought it was quite interesting. Mind you, its for the bigguns, but wouldn't surprise me if the little ones had something similar.

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/246314-farmers-pirating-john-deere-tractor-software-stick-man

Wilbur · « **Reply #6 on:** March 24, 2017, 09:18:20 PM »

Wow that's nasty. ...not good. Sheesh

Farmer Jon · « **Reply #7 on:** March 24, 2017, 09:26:46 PM »

I personally like the older tractors better. We have 2 8300 John deer tractors from the late 90s. They are my favorite. But they don't have auto steer and my planter don't have markers so I use my second favorite to plant beans and the cover crop with. An 07 8330. The newest, a 8345 has all the crap on it. So Does our combine. I don't like them at all.
A few days after getting the combine we had a business band radio installed. Later that day a tech from the dealer showed up. He said we can't find your combine. I pointed at it and said its right there. He said yea I see it but it dont show up on our computer. The radio man accidently cut the wire attached to the antenna that sends signal to the satellite that keeps track of where the machine is at all times. That kinda freaked me out a little bit. I can log into my John Deere .com and it will tell me everything. A detailed map of everwhere the machine was all day. The operating temp. The oil pressure. The fuel level. If its moving or stationary. The technology is crazy.

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Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 24, 2017, 10:07:34 PM »

There is rumors of Gm and Ford doing similar to lock you out of the computer programming software. They built the software we just use it and us changing it (EFIlive) is altering their software

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Flyin6 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 24, 2017, 10:17:36 PM »

The little Deere tractors are a different bet entirely. No factory communication, but they do break down. The several times my 4720 broke down were hard breaks that were beyond my ability to troubleshoot or repair.

These things I own are barely tractors at all, but for my 90+ acres they are all I currently need. Once I get my place up a bit over 400 acres (My goal) I'll need something a bit larger along with an excavator and a few Mexicans.

This dealership is the only one I have used for the past 15 years, so, yea, they know me quite well!

Farmer Jon · « **Reply #10 on:** March 24, 2017, 10:40:24 PM »

Good dealer support is a must. And stay on the good side of the mechanic. I ended up being pretty good friends with the parts guy. That comes in real handy.

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JR · « **Reply #11 on:** March 24, 2017, 11:57:16 PM »

Nice toy Don.

It took EFI years to finally unlock the dodge trucks. The GM LBZs were the last year the ECM doesn't track what you are doing.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 30, 2017, 07:23:46 PM »

Well, the tractor has made it up to its first hurtle

Getting the loader installed and serviced (Oil change and lube)

Flyin6 · « **Reply #13 on:** March 30, 2017, 07:28:07 PM »

It literally nearly doubles the capacity of the outgoing 1025 and its emission plagued power plant. Yea, it runs rough on startup, while all the tree huger stuff calibrates itself.

This new, well new-old (2012) has none of that horse crap. This one just starts up and idles. Sort of like I think all engines should do.

I think I am going to really love this little machine, being small and fuel efficient, but will run the chipper, and carry stuff about with the forks, as well as doing a lot of materials moving with the standard bucket.

I managed to purchase this thing nearly $5,000 off because it had been sitting for so long.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 30, 2017, 07:28:40 PM »

Almost no time on the hobbs...

Flyin6 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 30, 2017, 07:29:59 PM »

And has that big commercial 72" deck. I am turning a bunch of the front of the property to having a more groomed appearance for the kids to play in, this will help a bunch

Flyin6 · « **Reply #16 on:** March 30, 2017, 07:32:05 PM »

Hydrostatic drive is about all it has in the way of gee-whiz stuff. I noticed there wasn't as much to service as on my much more complex 4720.

This is a 3 cylinder Yanmar with a dependable normal injection pump...no common rail garbage!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 30, 2017, 07:33:50 PM »

The battery looks like it may have been sitting for some time, which it has, but everything else looks new

No turbo on this one, just old school straight up oil burner

Flyin6 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 30, 2017, 07:34:58 PM »

...Two fuel filters

Flyin6 · « **Reply #19 on:** March 30, 2017, 07:35:52 PM »

Big rear tires for a 30+ HP tractor

These are filled with beet juice to aid in stability

Flyin6 · « **Reply #20 on:** March 30, 2017, 07:37:01 PM »

The front axle is a portal design, and in the case of this unique transaxle, so does the rear. That's a secondary gearbox extending aft that the wheels mount to

Flyin6 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 30, 2017, 07:37:59 PM »

The loader comes on and off in a minute, mostly from the drivers seat

Flyin6 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 30, 2017, 07:38:52 PM »

You just lift up on the big cast iron handle and drive the loader downward and it rises right out of the cradle

Flyin6 · « **Reply #23 on:** March 30, 2017, 07:44:46 PM »

This mighty little loader has been real world tested to lift 1160 pounds to 29" height at loader stall. That is just arm lift, not including bucket curl which would add substantially to that. Half a ton++ is darned good for a 1500 lb tractor of 31HP

Flyin6 · « **Reply #24 on:** March 30, 2017, 07:47:56 PM »

They are going to replace the plastic bits located all over the tractor to make it new, and we are discussing replacing the seat as well. It is also faded...

This tractor got the 6 year warranty as well as a 24 month bumper to bumper, so I should save a bit the next two years with the multiple failures it will surely have.

That bucket is pretty anemic looking. Not sure what size it is, either a 49", 51" or 53"

Dawg25385 · « **Reply #25 on:** March 30, 2017, 10:48:16 PM »

Jealous. I would love to have one of those, but my Grampas 3032e is an hour away, and free to use whenever I want.

Nice machine!

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Flyin6 · « **Reply #26 on:** April 11, 2017, 05:31:33 PM »

It's still proving itself a more capable machine. The wood chipper pallet weighed over 1100 lbs. Tractor grunted, but lifted it. And that was with those hefty pallet forks

Flyin6 · « **Reply #27 on:** April 11, 2017, 05:33:20 PM »

The strap and clevis was used yesterday to lift the sawmill into place

The fluid filled tires are a price that is definitely worth the money

Flyin6 · « **Reply #28 on:** April 11, 2017, 05:34:37 PM »

This may look like a three vehicle pileup, but in reality it is just aircraft carrier style parking mangement

JR · « **Reply #29 on:** April 11, 2017, 05:35:57 PM »

Think how much fun it will be to chase trespassers with that!!!

Even better, the claw,,,,,,,,,,,

Flyin6 · « **Reply #30 on:** April 11, 2017, 05:39:53 PM »

Quote from: JR on April 11, 2017, 05:35:57 PM

Think how much fun it will be to chase trespassers with that!!!

Even better, the claw,,,,,,,,,,,

:-))

Flyin6 · « **Reply #31 on:** April 11, 2017, 05:40:45 PM »

Now for one of these:

JR · « **Reply #32 on:** April 11, 2017, 05:47:04 PM »

Yep, those are fun and you can lift almost anything with them.

Bob Smith · « **Reply #33 on:** April 11, 2017, 06:22:52 PM »

Well, not exactly anything, but depending on size he ends up.

KensAuto · « **Reply #34 on:** April 11, 2017, 06:50:01 PM »

My goodness, how many tractors can one man go through??!!! haha

5 years old? I would've beat them down more than 5 grand...jus sayin'

cudakidd53 · « **Reply #35 on:** April 11, 2017, 07:00:52 PM »

Early enrollment is now open for Big D's Heavy Equipment Camp!
(Campers must supply their own safety gear, fuel and insurance card; life-flight coverage is encouraged)

Sammconn · « **Reply #36 on:** April 11, 2017, 07:13:15 PM »

Quote from: cudakidd53 on April 11, 2017, 07:00:52 PM

Early enrollment is now open for Big D's Heavy Equipment Camp!

That right there is funny!
OK MAYBE TRUE THOUGH.

rpar86 · « **Reply #37 on:** April 11, 2017, 07:37:08 PM »

Tractor shopping in mandals... at least there are no socks.

"No turbo" = upgrade in the future??

South_GA_redneck · « **Reply #38 on:** April 11, 2017, 09:38:36 PM »

Glad to hear that your happy with your new tractor!

JR · « **Reply #39 on:** April 11, 2017, 11:34:49 PM »

Nice first post, welcome!

KensAuto · « **Reply #40 on:** April 11, 2017, 11:39:59 PM »

Welcome redneck #2 !!!
Are you the guy that updates Big D's implement arsenal every 3 months?

South_GA_redneck · « **Reply #41 on:** April 11, 2017, 11:45:36 PM »

Redneck #2 lol couldn't think of a user name, it seemed fitting. Guilty I turn wrenches for JD and worked on red equipment before that.

JR · « **Reply #42 on:** April 11, 2017, 11:53:10 PM »

Bingo, we have a winner.

So now we have TRN and GRN

Sammconn · « **Reply #43 on:** April 12, 2017, 07:29:44 AM »

Welcome GRN!
Not quite the right board, but hey chief is used to this...

Farmer Jon · « **Reply #44 on:** April 12, 2017, 07:57:48 AM »

Quote from: Flyin6 on April 11, 2017, 05:40:45 PM

Now for one of these:

I'm not real impressed with case equipment. Under powered in my opinion. We have 2 payloaders the same size. Case and John Deere. The Deere blows the case away. Our neighbors have a bobcat skidloader the same size as our Case. No comparison. I don't have anything to compare the mini excavator to but I feel like it should have more guts than it does.

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Wilbur · « **Reply #45 on:** April 12, 2017, 08:11:51 AM »

I'm just thinking some day this "Hide Sight" is gonna show up on some NSA analyst screen....he's sitting there scrolling through Sat images....sipping coffee....mindlessly thinking about his weekend when all of a sudden he see's an infrared bloom the size of a small city out in the sticks and thinks "Woah....wait a minute! Get Langley on the hotline....something's going on here!"

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #46 on:** April 12, 2017, 08:50:38 AM »

Welcome GRN! Like Texas Redneck , it seems a bit redundant.

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cruizng · « **Reply #47 on:** April 12, 2017, 09:17:51 AM »

Quote from: Flyin6 on April 11, 2017, 05:34:37 PM

This may look like a three vehicle pileup, but in reality it is just aircraft carrier style parking mangement

Does the HH6 GJ have to park out on the street now? That is equipment creep.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #48 on:** April 12, 2017, 11:11:23 AM »

Quote from: cruizng on April 12, 2017, 09:17:51 AM

Quote from: Flyin6 on April 11, 2017, 05:34:37 PM
This may look like a three vehicle pileup, but in reality it is just aircraft carrier style parking mangement

Does the HH6 GJ have to park out on the street now? That is equipment creep.

Holy crap...That's a lot of Dottin!

Secondly, should-ah-bin first, welcome to red neck numba deux! (Should-ah-bin...That could be some Haji's real name...;-) Mohammad should-ah-bin...)

Lastly, yea, there are some serious over-crowdin' like conditions in the GJ garage. But to the Mrs, it doesn't matter. She'd just push whatever it is out of the way...Jeep bumpers are meant for pushing things, right!

Well guess this thread is shot all to he!!, guess I'll get started on something else...let you gossipers hack away at any credibility remaining here...

JR · « **Reply #49 on:** April 12, 2017, 03:15:16 PM »

Did you add an aftermarket bumper to the HH6 ride? That plastic looks, well like plastic!