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Warning by Milita to Civil authorities
« on: January 16, 2016, 09:57:27 AM »
I copied this here for general information. The published warning obviously telegraphs intent by the Militia to intervene to keep things on the up and up. Not a bad idea really to provide a buffer so that something crazy doesn't happen.

When this sort of thing happened in Waco Texas, the American people were not in the state of mind that they are now. The militia and potential army of patriots was not really on the radar. Now days they certainly are. Militia stopped an illegal government intervention on the Bundy ranch in Nevada, so obviously they have grown in strength. Now they are positioned around the Oregon site now occupied by other militia folks.

Essentially a ring of gun powder now encircles a case of TNT and an agitated group of matches just showed up wanting to shoot something. Stage is set here folks. I thing prudence dictates we keep an eye on how this is rolling out:



https://www.oathkeepers.org/critical-warning-to-u-s-military-and-federal-leo-do-not-follow-orders-to-waco-ammon-bundy-occupation-in-oregon-or-you-risk-starting-a-civil-war/



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This is addressed first and foremost to the entire U.S. military, but especially to the military Special Operations Command and community.    Secondly, it is addressed to federal LEOs, and especially to their SRTs, such as the FBI HRT (many of whom are former military special operations).  This comes from combat arms and special operations veterans, along with veteran Sheriffs and police officers, within the Oath Keepers organization:

Critical Warning:

The Ammon Bundy led occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Oregon must be handled as a normal, non-crisis, law enforcement matter, and preferably by Oregon Sheriffs (who are organized as the Oregon State Sheriffs' Association), and their deputies, together with the local community there in Harney County, OR.   The locals can resolve this, if given enough time.   The Oregon Sheriffs can resolve this, if given enough time.

This situation must not be handled in a military or paramilitary fashion, using military assets, military rules of engagement, or otherwise attempting to end it suddenly by use of dynamic assault, resulting in catastrophic loss of life, as has occurred twice in recent American history, with horrific results (at Ruby Ridge in 1992, and at Waco Texas in 1993).  If you do it "Waco" style here, you risk pushing this nation over the edge into a civil war, because there are "no more free Wacos."

This is not an emergency situation, unless you turn it into one.  Ammon Bundy's occupation of an empty building is essentially the same as civil-disobedience sit-ins that the political left has engaged in for decades, from anti-war and civil rights protesters in the 60s and 70s (including a nineteen month occupation of Alcatraz by American Indian activists), to Occupy Wall Street Movement and Black Lives Matter activists today.

These ranchers, cowboys, and veterans just happen to be armed, as westerners tend to be.   Get over it.  There are no hostages, there are no close-by neighbors at risk, there is nobody there except those who want to be.

So tread lightly, and at most handle this like the Montana Freeman standoff, where the FBI was patient and waited them out, with a peaceful surrender coming after eighty one days.   In this situation, the locals will likely have this resolved long before that length of time.  Regardless, there is no rush.

Despite that reality of there being no emergency here, we have very good reason to believe that ideologue leftist bureaucrats within the Obama Administration - such as within the D.O.J., and their politically minded "perfumed prince" puppets within the D.O.D. - are pressuring you to prepare to use military assets and military rules of engagement to conduct a dynamic raid.   We are an organization of current serving and retired military, police, fire-fighters and other first responders, and we have contacts at every major military installation in America (including Joint Base Lewis-McChord), and at the Pentagon.   We hear things.  We'll just leave it at that.

And we know that the Obama Administration considered the use of military force during the Bundy Ranch standoff in April, 2014, pursuant to Directive No. 3025.18, "Defense Support of Civil Authorities."  Fortunately for all Americans, they decided not to do it.  This fact was confirmed by a May 28, 2014 Washington Times article:


A U.S. official said the Obama administration considered but rejected deploying military force under the directive during the recent standoff with Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy and his armed supporters.

From Inside the Ring: Memo Outlines Obama's Plan to Use the Military Against Citizens.

So, the military force hammer was, in fact, on the table during Bundy Ranch, as we suspected.  Please don't try to tell us it's not on the table again, now.   We know it is.  The only question is whether the Obama Admin leftist weenies will be foolish enough to try to actually use it, and if they do, whether you will be foolish enough to obey their idiotic orders and obediently act as that hammer.

In addition, it is clear you federal LEOs have not handled this in the normal law enforcement manner of cordoning off the area and immediately initiating negotiations.  Why is that?  Why has there yet to be even an attempt to open direct lines of communications between you and Ammon Bundy, as members of Pacific Patriot Network, Idaho III%, and Oath Keepers on the ground in Burns, OR have been repeatedly urging you to do for the past week, to no avail?

Don't do it.  Do not follow unlawful orders if the Obama Administration fools decide to go "full retard."  No matter how eager the politicians like Harry Reid are for Ammon Bundy's head, after the black eye Ammon and his family gave them at Bundy Ranch in 2014, and no matter how much they pressure you to "make an example" out of these guys, you cannot drop the hammer on a bunch of ranchers, cowboys, and veterans sitting in an empty building without it blowing up in all of our faces.  Treat this with kid gloves, like the Montana Freeman standoff, instead of like the Waco standoff, or risk setting off a civil war.

The stuffed-shirt, pencil necked metrosexuals inside the D.C. beltway will not be the ones bleeding and dying in the chaos that could follow (at least not at first).

 


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Re: Warning by Milita to Civil authorities
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2016, 08:01:16 PM »
Thanks for sharing. Serious stuff. Excellent points too, how is this any different than BLM shutting down a freeway, or OWS shutting down Manhattan? It's not.

So polarized now. Some of you guys have seen many more moons than me... Is this as bad as you've seen? Seems like we're at that moment where the pot of water starts swirling and steaming, right before the boil.


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Re: Warning by Milita to Civil authorities
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2016, 08:36:42 PM »
Dawg, I said this 5 years ago yet they keep kicking the can down the road. At some point rubber will meet the road & the storm will let loose.....
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Re: Warning by Milita to Civil authorities
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2016, 01:32:33 PM »
I have definitely seen many moons
And I have never seen a set up for a perfect storm

Everything is askew

Idiots have grown so powerful as to install and maintain a socialist, white hater, freedom hater, liar, homosexual, inexperienced and weak man in the nations loftiest office.

Speaking of homosexuals, it has moved from the closet to "In your face."
Army Chaplains are not allowed to teach Jesus Christ!!!!!!!!
The Air Force Academy has a devil worship monument and area.
Our government funds planned parenthood
Planned parenthood, shown to sell baby parts continues to operate!
We are 19 trillion dollars in debt...a figure greater than the earth's GDP
Our Military is about as small as it has ever been in my lifetime
We abandon Israel
CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood are guests at our white house
Guns are under assault everywhere
We created the homeland security, for exactly what?
We scoff at our allies
We have opened our arms to hoards of anti Christian muslims
We have turned our backs on Christians being slaughtered abroad
Our Attorney general threatens to retaliate against those protesting Islam
Has our government staged horrific events?...Did Sandy Hook actually happen?
We nearly abandon our veterans who need help
Homeless people, a few which are deserving are left to their own
Heroine usage is at the highest it has ever been
Our southern border is open to whomever
Our citizens are being murdered by illegals crossing from Mexico.
ISIS is known to be in every state
The democratic presidential candidate is under investigation!
Our congress does nothing...The republican party no longer functions
The poor are definitely getting poorer
Government labor statistics are not even well crafted lies any more
Our education system under common core is failing
Our folks no longer rate in the top 30 countries with respect to intellect
We are a nation of fat people
Health care under the affordable care act is bankrupting families
Immigrants, illegal or not get everything, where our citizens are saddled with debt
A county clerk in Kentucky is jailed for actually doing her job
Liberal rogue judges change laws from the bench, nobody intervenes
Our government took over corporations and gave them to unions!
Christians are under suspicion...for being Christians
Organizations like Acorn are tolerated!
Entire cities like Dearborn have fallen to Islam
Some Cities are now a refuge to illegals, who openly disobey the law
Our president and vice president are really just idiots
Not a single person in Obamas law school ever saw him there
Obama as a college student lived as a sexual slave to a Pakistani man
Excuse me, I had to puke...
My children have to pray outside of the school in the cold
I now carry a gun everywhere because crime has exploded
Our police are under attack and villinized
We release known killers from Gitmo, only to have them return to kill yet again
We have turned in our balls for something called "P C"
Europe is being taken over by Islam
Rape is at an all time high in areas oddly enough where Muslims are present
We are shutting down Coal power plants right and left
Wind and solar power do not work as a replacement!
The EPA governs
The BLM has been taken over by the likes of Harry Reid
The government is growing bolder and more aggressive...Bundy, KY clerk, others
Our military can no longer fight a two front war
The Chinese now have a stealth fighter as good as ours
They also built a military island base threatening Vietnam and the region
and we do nothing
The mid east is on fire
Inner city blacks now hate whites again
Riots are left alone, the mayor of Baltimore basically said she would let areas burn
Subjective, but from my seat hatred for everything is rising all the time



If all of this and a hundred more things don't suggest we are not only ripe for a revolution, but it is fast becoming obvious that it may be the best path, then you are a part of the problem and blind to what is going on!
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