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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #650 on: March 05, 2019, 07:27:29 PM »
I pulled the factory tow hooks off, as they will not be needed any longer
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #651 on: March 05, 2019, 07:28:52 PM »
I think SLC Dave suggested I plant the remote grease line for the idler arm mount ahead of the sway bar...I did
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #652 on: March 05, 2019, 07:29:39 PM »
Had to lengthen the front diff vent line...Need to remember to fill it with fluid
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #653 on: March 05, 2019, 07:30:27 PM »
Front is looking like it can now take a bit of abuse and survive
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #654 on: March 05, 2019, 07:32:15 PM »
I almost had the wheel well liners installed, but they were still dirty, so I soaked them with the purple stuff. Will clean and install in the morning
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #655 on: March 05, 2019, 07:33:32 PM »
Motor is about ready to startup.

I should be able to get the trans stuff installed tomorrow. When that is completed and refilled, I am a go for start.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #656 on: March 05, 2019, 07:45:04 PM »
Can you mount a bigger trans cooler? The style that MikeL designed?  Not but it should drop temps 25 degrees or so


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #657 on: March 05, 2019, 08:55:13 PM »
I agree replace the stock cooler as its grossly undersized and clean up the POs hack job.

Ive done a Tru Cool M7B on my 2500 Yukon XL and Ive done the Tru Cool 40K on a 6.0 2500.

Both work equally well. M7B in the dead of summer will run 175 degrees and the 40k will run 150. Unless your towing an RV my vote is the M7B.

https://www.performancetrucks.net/forums/gm-drivetrain-suspension-22/new-tranny-cooler-install-b-m-70266-a-467897/

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https://www.performancetrucks.net/forums/gm-drivetrain-suspension-22/tru-cool-40k-gvw-transmission-cooler-install-thread-470284/

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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #658 on: March 05, 2019, 08:59:19 PM »
Those stacked plate coolers are the way to go. Bout to swap a couple of them onto spartan.

Summit has them for a great price too.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #659 on: March 05, 2019, 09:41:24 PM »
Looks good.

Hey Don, don't forget to add gear oil.
   "    "   , don't forget to add a couple quarts ATF for the convertor.
   "    "   ,    "       "      "   "    "     "        "       engine oil.
Dexcool & brake fluid would be a bonus!


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #660 on: March 05, 2019, 10:00:45 PM »
You mean, add fluid to the fluid change.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #661 on: March 05, 2019, 10:29:11 PM »
What about storage on this vehicle for additional fluids? Are we going to see the extra oil filter like on the Cmax? Amsoil products?


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #662 on: March 06, 2019, 08:45:37 AM »
What about storage on this vehicle for additional fluids? Are we going to see the extra oil filter like on the Cmax? Amsoil products?


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No more Amsoil for you!

Naw, I'm all done with that hype and the hassle of testing, then relying on lab results while you drive your $10K motor into the 20K range on old oil.
I'm back to Delvac which will easily go well beyond the recommended interval. Change it on interval and get 3+ changes for the price of one Amsoil.
The Amsoil is not expensive because of its quality, which I do believe is high. It is expensive because of the multi layer marketing...Manufacturer, jobber, you. The cut to keep the middle man (men) in business has to provide incentive enough to cause them to participate, or the house of cards comes tumbling down.
If I wanted synthetic, then the Mobil synthetic is available at O'Reillys for less, and I can catch it on sale. But the last time I purchased Delvac I was buying it at $8 a gallon!
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #663 on: March 06, 2019, 08:47:12 AM »
Looks good.

Hey Don, don't forget to add gear oil.
   "    "   , don't forget to add a couple quarts ATF for the convertor.
   "    "   ,    "       "      "   "    "     "        "       engine oil.
Dexcool & brake fluid would be a bonus!


Just trying to help buddy.  :wink:
Trans pan is coming off, so trans fluid refill afterward

No brake lines yet, so no brake fluid

Ps fluid is in

Motor oil is in

Dexcool is in

Front diff...Not in, but sitting on the floor
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #664 on: March 06, 2019, 08:48:47 AM »
I agree replace the stock cooler as its grossly undersized and clean up the POs hack job.

Ive done a Tru Cool M7B on my 2500 Yukon XL and Ive done the Tru Cool 40K on a 6.0 2500.

Both work equally well. M7B in the dead of summer will run 175 degrees and the 40k will run 150. Unless your towing an RV my vote is the M7B.

https://www.performancetrucks.net/forums/gm-drivetrain-suspension-22/new-tranny-cooler-install-b-m-70266-a-467897/

or

https://www.performancetrucks.net/forums/gm-drivetrain-suspension-22/tru-cool-40k-gvw-transmission-cooler-install-thread-470284/
I have that stacked plate cooler I took off of SquareD. It's a big one, a B&M cooler I believe
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #665 on: March 06, 2019, 09:04:04 AM »
Going with stainless lines, or relocating factory?
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #666 on: March 06, 2019, 10:47:09 AM »
I think Norm point out the possible splashing of the air filter from below.

I agree

Today I did something about that

Good move. I went flying through some light flood water in the denali a few years back and sucked water into the air filter box. no bueno
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #667 on: March 06, 2019, 10:52:59 AM »
Looks good.

Hey Don, don't forget to add gear oil.
   "    "   , don't forget to add a couple quarts ATF for the convertor.
   "    "   ,    "       "      "   "    "     "        "       engine oil.
Dexcool & brake fluid would be a bonus!


Just trying to help buddy.  :wink:
Trans pan is coming off, so trans fluid refill afterward

No brake lines yet, so no brake fluid

Ps fluid is in

Motor oil is in

Dexcool is in

Front diff...Not in, but sitting on the floor

Write "NO OIL IN DIFF" in grease pen on your windshield. I don't want to add you to my list of hundreds of customers that call back to re-order parts!
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #668 on: March 06, 2019, 12:46:41 PM »
Going with stainless lines, or relocating factory?
Factory + I will add in a length of hard tubing to account for the difference in length
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #669 on: March 06, 2019, 12:47:49 PM »
Looks good.

Hey Don, don't forget to add gear oil.
   "    "   , don't forget to add a couple quarts ATF for the convertor.
   "    "   ,    "       "      "   "    "     "        "       engine oil.
Dexcool & brake fluid would be a bonus!


Just trying to help buddy.  :wink:
Trans pan is coming off, so trans fluid refill afterward

No brake lines yet, so no brake fluid

Ps fluid is in

Motor oil is in

Dexcool is in

Front diff...Not in, but sitting on the floor

Write "NO OIL IN DIFF" in grease pen on your windshield. I don't want to add you to my list of hundreds of customers that call back to re-order parts!
OK!

And I did that once! Installed new Yukon 4.88's into that tiny rear diff on my 01 Tundra. Drove it a few miles, then realized...No Oil!!!!!!!!!!!

Filled it and it lasted a berry long time, but did fail eventually
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #670 on: March 06, 2019, 08:31:18 PM »
Have to change up the exhaust. The 4" cat back is not going to fit with all the business I have going on underneath there. Also, when I fired the motor up that one time with the MBRP straight through 4" muffler it was quite loud. I don't like loud.

So I ordered the largest 3" Magnaflow muffler sold along with some individual bends and some 3" tubing. I will bring it out ahead of the rear tire like I did on my D-Max and free up the space around the rear axle for all the suspension goodies I have planned for that area.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #671 on: March 06, 2019, 08:44:36 PM »
Well, it may not look like I got a lot done today, but in addition to what's shown in the pics that follow, I:

Measured and ordered an exhaust
Ordered new parking light housings
Ordered LED bulbs for the outside illumination
Picked up the CB radio
Started sorting out the auxiliary electrical system
Painted the front driveshaft
Painted the engine cover

But real work now...
It all has to get done sometime, so I got to it and sanded down the trans crossmember and front driveshaft. THat took some time as it was quite pitted and rusty
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #672 on: March 06, 2019, 08:45:15 PM »
And painted them with the KBS hardening epoxy paint
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #673 on: March 06, 2019, 08:47:03 PM »
Then to make Ken and Tate happy, I filled the front differential with fresh gear oil

I painted the fill plug red/orange to make it easier for technicians to find it in the future when they are called on to change the fluids
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #674 on: March 06, 2019, 08:50:03 PM »
Then when draining the trans fluid, I read the transgo instructions, and noticed the warning.

"This kit is not intended for the do it yourselfer. It is to be installed by a seasoned transmission technician only."

Hmmmm. So now I have a quandry. Do I take a stab at it ot just remove the valve body and carry it off to a proper technician...Hmmm
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #675 on: March 06, 2019, 08:53:04 PM »
Then to make Ken and Tate happy, I filled the front differential with fresh gear oil

I painted the fill plug red/orange to make it easier for technicians to find it in the future when they are called on to change the fluids

And by technicians, you mean yourself....without glasses on

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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #676 on: March 06, 2019, 08:54:20 PM »
Then to make Ken and Tate happy, I filled the front differential with fresh gear oil

I painted the fill plug red/orange to make it easier for technicians to find it in the future when they are called on to change the fluids

And by technicians, you mean yourself....without glasses on
Well, depends
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #677 on: March 06, 2019, 08:59:41 PM »
Are you upgrading the front DS at all? For the Cognito lift I want they say a new one is needed with a CV.

Thinking I will just have a CV added to the stock, hopefully about 1/2 the price.

What size is you front swaybar?

On the tranny, go for it. Installed a few with no issues. Warning is CYA like telling you what end the gun shoots from,,,,,,,,,,
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #678 on: March 06, 2019, 09:23:52 PM »
Then to make Ken and Tate happy, I filled the front differential with fresh gear oil

I painted the fill plug red/orange to make it easier for technicians to find it in the future when they are called on to change the fluids

And by technicians, you mean yourself....without glasses on
Well, depends
I don't think he was asking you what you were wearing

JR, I know they recommend it with the 4-6 LML lift. Mine is turned down to about 3 1/2" and last time I raced someone, I thought that driveline was going to end up wrapped around the steering wheel...it was violent. But normal driving it's fine at all speeds in 4wd. I haven't launched in 4wd since then.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #679 on: March 06, 2019, 10:49:54 PM »
Then to make Ken and Tate happy, I filled the front differential with fresh gear oil

I painted the fill plug red/orange to make it easier for technicians to find it in the future when they are called on to change the fluids

And by technicians, you mean yourself....without glasses on
Well, depends
I don't think he was asking you what you were wearing

JR, I know they recommend it with the 4-6 LML lift. Mine is turned down to about 3 1/2" and last time I raced someone, I thought that driveline was going to end up wrapped around the steering wheel...it was violent. But normal driving it's fine at all speeds in 4wd. I haven't launched in 4wd since then.

I do tend to wear safety squints most of the time, but have not been told I need vision aiding glasses yet.... I’m only 32, mom and dad didn’t get glasses until they were in their 50s.... so I’m hoping I got a few years...

All that being said, I’m ok with brightly colored objects for easy identifying! 

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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #680 on: March 06, 2019, 11:06:17 PM »
*Depends..=Don's old.

Made sense in my mind at the time.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #681 on: March 06, 2019, 11:12:13 PM »
*Depends..=Don's old.

Made sense in my mind at the time.
Just trying to get fired again.

I can’t recall him ever hiring you back after last time....  :knucklehead:
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #682 on: March 06, 2019, 11:12:40 PM »
Don, I’m sure you of all people can handle a trans-go kit! I’ve done one in my DMAX and one in the wife’s Acadia. You’ll do fine.

You mentioned LEDs for external, you’ll likely need a new flasher module to run the signals without hyper flash, or wire in resistors on each bulb.


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #683 on: March 07, 2019, 12:04:36 PM »
Are you upgrading the front DS at all? For the Cognito lift I want they say a new one is needed with a CV.

Thinking I will just have a CV added to the stock, hopefully about 1/2 the price.

What size is you front swaybar?

On the tranny, go for it. Installed a few with no issues. Warning is CYA like telling you what end the gun shoots from,,,,,,,,,,
Wasn't going to change the front drive shaft. Wasn't required by BDS

Front sway bar is 1.5" and solid

Trans valve body...I feel like I can handle it, but the warning was poignant. Thanks for that JR...I really want to do it myself
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« Reply #684 on: March 07, 2019, 12:09:22 PM »
*Depends..=Don's old.

Made sense in my mind at the time.
Just trying to get fired again.

I can’t recall him ever hiring you back after last time....  :knucklehead:
I can't recall what I forgot to do back whenever, whatever we are talking happened...;-)
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #685 on: March 07, 2019, 12:11:02 PM »
Don, I’m sure you of all people can handle a trans-go kit! I’ve done one in my DMAX and one in the wife’s Acadia. You’ll do fine.

You mentioned LEDs for external, you’ll likely need a new flasher module to run the signals without hyper flash, or wire in resistors on each bulb.


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Yea, not using LED's in the flashers for that very reason. Just for the scene illumination lights on the underside of the mirrors that come on when the door is opened or when you remotely unlock the vehicle.
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« Reply #686 on: March 07, 2019, 12:15:10 PM »
*Depends..=Don's old.

Made sense in my mind at the time.
Just trying to get fired again.
Ken, you know "Old" is really just a state of mind
Some can be like this 25 year old newly wed and obviously not fit his chronological age.
so
right now in my mind, I'm pretty...OLD...
Should be younger in a few days! ;-))
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #687 on: March 07, 2019, 12:32:54 PM »
Placed the Merchant Automotive transfer case kit on order.

Also ordered:

A first aid kit
Sleeping mattress for the back
Some other crap that is costing me even more monies...
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #688 on: March 07, 2019, 05:37:34 PM »
You know, I have been using an Intex twin for camping for a couple years now. Just the cheap one, 7.97 at wally and has served me well. Wider than the sleeping bag, not too thick and I sleep great on it.

I use a cheap 12v pump, but have a bigger one with pump built in that is nice. For $8 you can get a few.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #689 on: March 07, 2019, 06:14:08 PM »
Drain plug, front diff
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #690 on: March 07, 2019, 06:15:17 PM »
New dust caps, dressed them up some with all the new stickers I now have
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« Reply #691 on: March 07, 2019, 06:16:28 PM »
Second coat of the KBS epoxy on the front drive shaft and the trans crossmember
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #692 on: March 07, 2019, 06:17:51 PM »
Picked up new brake hoses and banjo fitting bolts
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #693 on: March 07, 2019, 06:19:57 PM »
Nice fit!
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #694 on: March 07, 2019, 06:22:27 PM »
So on the drivers side, the line wasn't exactly tight, but it wasn't having any extra slack either, so I moved the mount a bit closer, drilled the frame, tapped the hole and remounted everything
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #695 on: March 07, 2019, 06:26:55 PM »
The factory mount points fit the spindle perfectly. I had to loosen the control arm line mount and slide it forward 2", but then that fit like stock as well.

Clearance check looked good

However, I did not weld the steering stops onto the spindle in hopes of tightening the turning radius. I will have to do something, as at full lock, the caliper can now just contact the lower control arm assembly
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #696 on: March 07, 2019, 06:28:40 PM »
I did a little fun thing to the engine cover. It looked old and scratched before. With all this newness, I wanted everything to fit in sync
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #697 on: March 07, 2019, 06:31:00 PM »
Then I refitted the wheel well splash liners. I am getting pretty complete up front now...Finally
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #698 on: March 07, 2019, 06:58:13 PM »
dont forget the fluids...
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #699 on: March 07, 2019, 07:13:35 PM »
dont forget the fluids...
Which ones pray tell?
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