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Title: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 17, 2019, 12:12:04 PM
So I started a build thread on this years ago, and well I’m still building.

Couple of yous have asked to see the work so I guess I should put something together.

We started this year and the work pretty heavily in January and have been putting hours in on it every day. I’m slow, not very good at this stuff and learning as I go, and it’s a dodge, which means everything is more difficult to source or make.

This is the interior in January of 2019 and kind of where we started... again.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190517/5b39d0149b180e14edd0bc034a855fd6.jpg)

At this point it would start and move but the brakes were at max pressure because the original booster on the 74 was set up for drum drum compared to the 92 axles that are on it which are drum rotor.

The floor was shot and needed to be replaced. It didn’t and still doesn’t have a windshield. The top roof panel was not fully attached, there was a hole in the fire wall where the original heater core and blower motor were. Most of that has been solved.

Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: TexasRedNeck on May 17, 2019, 12:25:45 PM
So I started a build thread on this years ago, and well I’m still building.

Couple of yous have asked to see the work so I guess I should put something together.

We started this year and the work pretty heavily in January and have been putting hours in on it every day. I’m slow, not very good at this stuff and learning as I go, and it’s a dodge, which means everything is more difficult to source or make.

This is the interior in January of 2019 and kind of where we started... again.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190517/5b39d0149b180e14edd0bc034a855fd6.jpg)

At this point it would start and move but the brakes were at max pressure because the original booster on the 74 was set up for drum drum compared to the 92 axles that are on it which are drum rotor.

The floor was shot and needed to be replaced. It didn’t and still doesn’t have a windshield. The top roof panel was not fully attached, there was a hole in the fire wall where the original heater core and blower motor were. Most of that has been solved.
Love it.  Keep it coming.


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Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 17, 2019, 12:29:50 PM
So looking through my photos, in late January I began attacking the floor. It was TERRIBLY patched and sealed with caulking and spray foam.

This is what I started with.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190517/a04a69c439389aafaac32cb92a503247.jpg)

Passenger feet area that was covered with a replacement floor panel.

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The bottom side of the replacement panels after I drilled the rivets out and removed them.

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This is what was used to cover all the rust the PO cut out of the floor. These panels came from other parts of the truck body, such as decent metal in the bed or the fenders.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190517/dd999d0e8a2eed40bf2a9595ce046aa5.jpg)


The holes..

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Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Flyin6 on May 17, 2019, 01:01:55 PM
Finally...We get to see this thing in some detail!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: stlaser on May 17, 2019, 05:57:00 PM
Lol, Turner I didn’t realize you never made an official build thread....  :rolleyes:

Between pics you sent me and I guess random posting’s I thought there was one.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 17, 2019, 08:29:47 PM
Lol, Turner I didn’t realize you never made an official build thread....  :rolleyes:

Between pics you sent me and I guess random posting’s I thought there was one.  :facepalm:

LOL there is now!!!
Title: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 17, 2019, 10:14:57 PM
Lets try this post again!

After I found all the holes noticed that the cab floor was sitting on the frame the only thing to do of course was to remove the whole floor and replace it.

The floor is originally installed in 3 sections plus the dog house over the stick. I started out by removing the passenger floor panel. I used a drill at first, to remove the spot welds. I also used a 1/2" belt grinder (harbor freight electric jamma), which I would say this is probably the best method....IF you can find all the spot welds. After the drill and belt sander, I turned to the grinder... Then the finals that I missed a big fat hammer and a big chisel from lowes I simply smashed the welds and ripped the steel apart... I do not advise doing this method as it can go sideways REAL FAST and ruin lots of metal you will need to reuse.

Once the passenger floor was gone I moved to driver. Then the mid section. The rear section was left intact as it was 95% healthy.

After the floor was removed I cleaned the rails and painted them with rust converter. Which I have read is an ok primer for another primer.. It turns black after dried.


Before removal of any floor.
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Drivers floor holes
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190518/094fa05225fe128668e22b416f9393ef.jpg)

Some spot welds drilled, front piece of tunnel which I call the doghouse has been removed.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190518/84fa3be389185949a121f13ce6f243af.jpg)

This is the mid section of floor board. You can see all the shiny metal that was hit with the angel grinder in order to get it out.

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This is with the floor removed, pre grind of spot weld leftovers, pre clean up, pre rust converter... the mess underneath was unreal.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190518/48db3e866565d6623ca7009933c20a5c.jpg)

All rails cleaned up and coated with rust converter... notice how they’re black instead of reddish brown.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190518/561f7c75731210c0cf85892b18f7fba3.jpg)

These next two pictures are the removal of the passenger floor pan.
Title: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 18, 2019, 12:36:38 AM
As you can see above I got the floor removed and prepped for new steel. In thinking about installing new panels I didn't like the idea of seams. I still ended up with more seams than I would have preferred, but when you don't have the equipment, and the people who do can't create what you need, you adjust for fire and make it work.

So I had my metal shop sheer and break a piece of steel, flat it would be 52" by 77". Broken it is 52" (the measurement from back to front) by 68" (width of the cab). The floor board was broken 8 times, which would form the floor board for the most part. I had them make it out of 14 gauge which I believe (i'm not a metallurgist) to be plenty strong enough without cross beam support.

Along with the big piece of steel I reused some portions of the new floor pans the PO purchased and riveted in.

I didn't take enough pictures but we actually glued all of the steel in before being stitch welded in.

I started by gluing the two small sections of front floor pan in. Once that was stitched in and cured, wife and I glued and stitched the big piece in.

Now, the big piece didn't just fit, it took some love to fit. By love I mean an hour or two of hammer blows, plus some cutting and grinding with the angle grinder. Sadly I do not have enough pictures to show all of this but I had to shape the front edges of the floor, and cut/grind the entire length of the edges. SO MUCH METAL MESS!!!

This is all the metal powder from removal and new floor prep.

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Here is the floor just after getting it home.

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Initial test fit. Looking at it through the firewall.

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I degreased with naphtha, slightly roughedthe whole surface with a sanding disc, cleaned again, primed with krylon self etch, top coated with thinned rustoleum.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190518/8ce07bf67f736faf6402bec96d39b30d.jpg)

The glue I used. Tough stuff and certainly will bond two panels. I needed three tubes but ended up only using two, one on the front sections of floor pan, and one for the rest of it. I had a third but it was WAY past serviceable goo, and so we made due with two.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190518/2c84ed2630b834ef5d411246176fee8d.jpg)


With the heaters having the garage at 72degrees, wife and I wiggled the floor in, i glued it, and we clamped it down, let it cure over night.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190518/d48e5a03d6a5254b3182d56a3188e540.jpg)

Finished product less one small section of trans tunnel.

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Here is the chunks I cut out from the front floor pans that PO laid on top of the rust. They too were glued in, I actually started with them.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190518/0f597035fa49e5a03443704fd760f956.jpg)

You can my stainless steel piece I added to the finish up the tunnel.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190518/99797eb5c86274f757c71f6eeac5c701.jpg)

Body bolt holes drilled.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190518/3342974864eaf8d4f595602a0515451e.jpg)

All the seams and poor welds have been covered with a self leveling sealer by SEM.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190518/6ec796d1dcb8921f30c10f590711c23a.jpg)
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 18, 2019, 12:41:35 AM
So, all the while of working on the floor, I was working on everything else that needed attention. Such as cleaning the gutters of caulk, finding the roof is not actually attached in places, finding the crank to need a speedi sleeve, replacing the rear main, stretching rear main housing bolts and replacing, sending torque converter to Hughes Performance in Phoenix to be rebuilt, installing a Goerend flex plate at the recommendation of a man much smarter than I, painting and installing the transmission and t-case, installing twin sticks on the t-case, embroidering beer coozies and hats for folks, having rust repaired in a door, closing up the firewall, installing hydroboost..... and i know more but forget, pictures to follow....
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 18, 2019, 12:24:31 PM
Here are some pictures of a bit of everything while the main theme of flooring was happening.

Overall the truck is going to be blue and grey. Interior and exterior.

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Primed.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190518/667b31400c9a03f4a468c2bc0f07966e.jpg)

Painted!!
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190518/cdae5435558d8c6ddd093231f89b49e6.jpg)
 
Our Goerend billet flex plate.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190518/35e322623200c726f527ade8627659cb.jpg)

Ruint rear end of crank shaft.

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So a short word on torque converters.... if you have them they are worth gold. All the shops I looked at charge a 1000$ core charge that if you don’t mail yours in to be rebuilt you get to pay for!!! I mailed mine to Phoenix and they rebuilt it and mailed it back, for 549 I think.

So if you have a 46/47rh/re torque converter laying around don’t throw it away!!

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Heater core hole...
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Hole no more!
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Oops....
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Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Flyin6 on May 18, 2019, 01:46:11 PM
This is a bit (well, lots) more extensive than what I was envisioning.

Impressive so far
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: stlaser on May 18, 2019, 04:46:24 PM
This is a bit (well, lots) more extensive than what I was envisioning.

Impressive so far

I said same thing, he’s really been steaming along on this project.  :likebutton:
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Flyin6 on May 18, 2019, 10:09:53 PM
This is a bit (well, lots) more extensive than what I was envisioning.

Impressive so far

I said same thing, he’s really been steaming along on this project.  :likebutton:
And resurrecting an old classic truck!

I'm glad folks are taking an interest in the old square bodies.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 18, 2019, 11:41:13 PM
This is a bit (well, lots) more extensive than what I was envisioning.

Impressive so far

I said same thing, he’s really been steaming along on this project.  :likebutton:
And resurrecting an old classic truck!

I'm glad folks are taking an interest in the old square bodies.

So this rebuild, of which I will have removed every single bolt of the 74, many of the 92, I may in the end have around 25k in it, after upholstery. But it will have all the features of a new truck and even heated seats in the back seat. So a solid truck that will do anything I ask of it for less than a third of the equivalent today’s truck... no brainer. However I’m not sure i consider it a square body... it’s rounder than most, simply because that was the 70s bodies!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 19, 2019, 12:24:35 AM
I didn’t really show that the body was removed from the frame and I built a cradle for it in the garage. While the poor frame and engine endured the snow!

So during the flooring job whilst in a cradle I did some basic things to the transmission and transfer case. Such as the twin sticks, whatever the seal is in the front of the transmission, of course the rear main, and housing, broke the dip stick tube and replaced that, new frost plugs, new camshaft plug.... and can’t remember... so pictures

These are the buckets we found for it, we removed the arms. May put one back on but will decide when it’s at the upholstery shop. This is where it rested while I worked on the cab.

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The empty hole.... broken bolt :( got er fixed of course.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190519/1149e73dec25ca320f05bda8f2f77ecd.jpg)

Painted the transmission adapter plate.

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Installed plate and goerend flexplate.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190519/7e91373cc64870170dfcf859ce88f1ab.jpg)

Input shaft seal? I replaced it..

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190519/01ecd7c0336c74d70fe88a010b16619d.jpg)

The tool I made to install the above seal.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190519/f4e932e0cc2ffa7d253bad05c41f0ee7.jpg)
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Found this frost plug inside the block while replacing them.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190519/93d94e9528bf04c39452a492426b7fcf.jpg)

Can you see the difference? I replaced all of these rear main seal housing bolts.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190519/6554fee61a08587dff23a36599342f36.jpg)
Title: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 19, 2019, 12:59:04 AM
Ok, so twin sticking a t-case isn’t real difficult. I chose to go to twins simply because I had to remove the original trans mounted shifter after my floor repair. My tunnel is much smaller, 8” on top and about 12” on the bottom, than the factory set up. And the original idea of trans mounted transfer case shifter was guaranteed to hit the tunnel. This truck won’t see hard core wheeling but maybe once or twice so it wasn’t aimed towards that, just ease of use is why.

JB fabrication out of Oregon makes some real nice stuff, so I picked up a buggy kit for a dodge/Chevy NP205 t-case.

This will sit on the tunnel, and most likely be covered by a box with either carpet or some leather.

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This adapter has to be removed first in order to remove the factory shift rails.

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I didn’t take pictures of the bolts, but they hold the detent ball and spring in, in the hole you can see underneath the ball here.

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There’s of course two rails, which means two  detent springs and balls, and bolt to hold those in. Here I have both detent balls removed. You can see the second hole just behind my finger.

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To get each rail out you have to drive out a roll pin which you can see in the light of my flash light in the hole.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190519/0d5a28f833cade952ca1511ab5e2ae10.jpg)

Here I got the rear rail in.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190519/b7873ab85d01b54c674dd6b23f3b0f11.jpg)

If you go to do this, please note, the rails need to both be in neutral or else the front (left rail in above pics) will not come out. They have a horizontal detent ball holding them in. I found this out the hard way and reached out to swbhobie, as he had just done his tcase.


The jb fab kit comes with new detent springs and balls, and we opted for the adjustable detent bolts. Quality stuff from that place.

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Here is the rails all finished up.

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This is the bracket that bolts to the case, and holds the shift cables. I painted it rather than leaving it bare stainless..

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190519/be09c3335295274ac336e97b33d3fa19.jpg)

Here it is installed in the frame. I removed the exhaust so it all went in easier and then adjusted it to fit better!!

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Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Bigdave_185 on May 19, 2019, 01:42:53 AM
That’s a good bit of progress.  Nice to see some color other than tractor orange


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Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 19, 2019, 08:26:25 AM
that twin stick setup looks familiar..  :grin:
Title: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 19, 2019, 05:17:54 PM
While the cab and frame were in separate locations I addressed the firewall. I filled in the holes that wouldn't be getting reused, cleaned the fire wall to bare metal, then applied some layers of paint product. We have a paint and body supply shop in SVC little family owned shop, great service decent prices so I got my paint from them. Using a brand called Nason or maybe Axalta. Not sure which company owns the other.

I used a Direct to metal primer, epoxy primer over that, then the blue, then a clear. Each one got two or so sprays.

Layers one and two materials.

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Pre clean.

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Cleaned.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190519/8c2033b976d82f4ee6f138baee1367f7.jpg)

Holes filled.

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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190519/4cc2422b289d47a5fa5212b78213b9d2.jpg)

DTM primer.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190519/95fcb31009d4e539ff154480753c4812.jpg)

Epoxy primer/sealer.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190519/b8c06b55feac0836c885a8c177c1b567.jpg)

Concord blue topcoat and clear.

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The cheap siphon spray gun I used!! I don’t have very big compressor so this is basically all I can operate. Did the job pretty well I think.

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Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: stlaser on May 19, 2019, 05:23:45 PM
No heater or ac?
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 19, 2019, 07:26:02 PM
No heater or ac?

Both, but it’s a self contained unit that only needs four holes about an inch in diameter.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190519/abece1fcee8d2e221085b1e5ff417449.jpg)

That will be mounted to the fire wall, and it gets plumbed to the unit inside under the dash.

We got the largest unit that vintage air sells. Magnum iv.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: stlaser on May 19, 2019, 07:59:27 PM
VA, nice!  :likebutton:
Title: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 19, 2019, 08:58:56 PM
At this point in our build (not today but in the timeline from above), I am ready to join the frame and cab. And so with some serious effort from a lever on the drum I rolled the frame back in the garage and under the cab.

Now, in all the work with a hammer, grinder and what have you in installing the floor I had a minor whoops that only showed itself when I went to bolt the cab to the frame...

While working on the floor I separated the passenger side front cab mount from the cab on accident, I thought I had it back in the proper place but as things would have it I did not. With some of the stuff I had laying around I found that the front passenger corner was a 1/4” lower than the rest of the mounts.

I also found that my new transmission tunnel was a smidge too low and rested on the bell housing of the transmission. So I needed a solution for two minor problems... enter a custom Ultra High Molecular weight Polyethylene (read dense plastic) body lift. Ran one on our 4runner for almost 10 years.

So the internet is an amazing thing and I found a stick of UHMWPE in the proper diameter. This stick I then cut into 5 x 1” discs and 1 x 3/4” disc. Which then solved both of my oops’.

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So this body lift of course created a minor issue of its own, factory bolts were not long enough. So I attempted to make my own, and half succeeded. Then I paid a “machine shop” to make four for me. These are the ones I made compared to the factory bolt.

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The cab is currently bolted on with two of the ones I made and two the machine shop made.

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One of my failed attempts at making a bolt.

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I will say, if this truck has taught me anything.... it is that I should open an odd parts machine shop, I feel like there’s a huge need.

Here are the bolts I paid a stupid amount to have made.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190520/3d7938589ba925275f7cc8514128ef99.jpg)
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: stlaser on May 19, 2019, 09:08:16 PM
Technically, we all just need to be neighbors and between the 20-30 of us regulars we would have all aspects covered!  :likebutton:

I vote for Idaho, next to Ken pretty sure with that many of us we could permanently lose his gf too!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 19, 2019, 10:49:57 PM
Technically, we all just need to be neighbors and between the 20-30 of us regulars we would have all aspects covered!  :likebutton:

I vote for Idaho, next to Ken pretty sure with that many of us we could permanently lose his gf too!

There are so many things that would come from this place if we lived within 20miles of each other. And Kens horrid terrible no good very bad disgrace to humankind GF, would stand NO chance. Especially when he decide she was exactly that!!!!

Only problem I see, is my OIC has a few more years before she hits 20 and can pop smoke. But I say that now, and it’ll change in a year when she is blessed with pinning on MSG. She pins that were in it for the duration  of available time.
Title: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 19, 2019, 11:19:04 PM
Ok, so another thing I had to fix on our crew cab was the roof. Not sure where exactly in the line of completion this lies but it was kind of in many times soooooo let’s cover it!

Simply put, the PO removed the roof flasher and spot light and had to repair the holes. While it was done, it was done poorly. Which made more fun times for me

Ultimately there were four holes of 1/2” to 3/4” in diameter that needed to be closed up, and all the previous warping.... unwarped.

So I started this piece of our puzzle by using some aircraft paint remover on the roof. Then took my noisy arm shaker of a favorite tool out and cleaned up the poor weld repair job... ie I ground the tar out of the roof and opened the original holes the military put in our roof decades ago.  Now, pictures!!!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190520/ada6e711ea1e2a98c8c372a6e0c23020.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190520/f98f59e913fb91b3cbb75ec232d25828.jpg)

You can see three bondo spots here.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190520/9c52b3bb823db7628e90f358c4d6db60.jpg)

Here you can see all four patches with bondo removed. You can also kind of see the warpage.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190520/431ff377b436fb4357f6285ed3483f06.jpg)

Closer detail of some of the previous repairs.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190520/e657ff85504f6e1a807210bad574701c.jpg)

Here I have began peeling the patch.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190520/33e6d602824f9f97c36ad81563688adf.jpg)

The beginning of warpage removal.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190520/8b7516de4aea2d881745fd0b120d6337.jpg)

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You can see the holes and more of our studs for warpage removal.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190520/18f2273a51f7f0f8f90daa21b259b9e1.jpg)

During the pulling.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190520/45e6419634208d2533dccd897bf2f309.jpg)

This is where we chose to call acceptable. I’ll skim it with bondo, but it will still not be perfectly shaped. I never aimed to build a show truck, because at this point I’m not able to do that.... still learning.... with no teacher.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190520/4b812f017941c33594ed95f75b150155.jpg)

At a distance view, as well as close to where the truck currently sits.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190520/b8b5713512d6124fefe4f3615898b774.jpg)
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: JR on May 19, 2019, 11:24:35 PM
Is that the HF stud gun you are using? Mine is OK but grabbing the studs is a chore.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 19, 2019, 11:50:49 PM
Is that the HF stud gun you are using? Mine is OK but grabbing the studs is a chore.

JR, it is indeed. I tend to buy single use possibly two time use tools from harbor fraught. It did a great job. That being said, the spot welder they have, I tried that. It was as about as good as throwing a turd onto the steel expecting it to join the two.... GARBAGE!

I think in a soonish time frame we’re going to have a pile of tools needing a new home as our move at the end of the year is looking to be overseas.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: cruizng on May 20, 2019, 11:17:52 AM
Technically, we all just need to be neighbors and between the 20-30 of us regulars we would have all aspects covered!  :likebutton:

I vote for Idaho, next to Ken pretty sure with that many of us we could permanently lose his gf too!
Great work on the project. Thanks for posting it up. Challenges and all.

I agree with ^^^. That is as long as we can encourage Ken to lose H.


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Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 20, 2019, 04:17:33 PM
A problem with older dodge bodies like this and why the floors are rusted into nothing, is that the seam sealer at the factory was hit or miss on the quality. Most of the time it was a miss, and it simply allowed water in through the A pillar and it would sit on the floor board.

Over the years people address it, but I’m guessing the solution it just add more, instead of clean, repair, seal. Thus just encapsulating the problem rather than fixing it.

So I thought I’d try to fix it. First I removed all of the old dried out stuff, the caulking that was on top of that, any paint, rust down to bare steel.

Then rejoined the several spots where the roof had become detached by putting some simple spot welds down.

After it was all together again, I laid down a couple tubes of self leveling seam sealer, with some heavy bodied seam sealer on the verticals.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190520/16465d1b7e1fdcf729fa1b066342d4e6.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190520/975b8f11cb8a5d12438339f1a6ef1f6a.jpg)

Under side of the gutter also got cleaned and re sealed. This is pre clean.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190520/db009ea915d92da4fa449f0dcca3704e.jpg)

Driver side under the gutter nastiness.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190520/66b057e2dcbe081c4a7da28886e56aff.jpg)

Again driver side, but this is the gutter. You can see the roof panel is not fully connected.
This is one of the spots I had to add some weld to.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190520/07336947d037b68b510fa9e44edd3e70.jpg)

This is the front gutter after I filled it with self leveling.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190520/778d566d8cab0598e1e9936dadfffcf1.jpg)

This is the 2k stuff I used. The mix tubes work great, just simply squeeze it like a caulking gun and it comes out properly mixed!!!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190520/6663d41514df476353f88530f65a706c.jpg)

Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Flyin6 on May 20, 2019, 10:21:18 PM
Man, you are getting into the bones of this thing

Going to be a very nice truck when you get done.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: KensAuto on May 20, 2019, 10:46:52 PM
Wow, what a project. 

That VA a/c setup is about twice as good as factory.  Good choice.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 21, 2019, 12:21:05 AM
Wow, what a project. 

That VA a/c setup is about twice as good as factory.  Good choice.

Glad to hear this. Do you have the ability to
crimp AC lines? That is the one piece of the AC puzzle I don’t want to buy the tool for it’s way too expensive for a one time use thing.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 21, 2019, 12:24:45 AM
Man, you are getting into the bones of this thing

Going to be a very nice truck when you get done.

Chief, so far all of the above is past work. I am currently slacking off on it a smidge, but I need to plumb the passenger rear brake caliper and bleed the brakes, wire it all, have windshield installed and reassemble the interior and the truck will be on the road. Should have had it done but I’ve been gone 4.5 out of the last six weeks.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: JR on May 21, 2019, 12:31:05 AM
Nice work. I take it the drip rails now drip vs channeling the water away?
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 21, 2019, 10:10:36 AM
So moving along with things needing to be addressed, let me first address some individuals, Shawn stlaser owner of GLO for a great product and his help with odd things like a Dana 70. Wilsonphil for covering down on my lack of Cummins knowledge and simply just helping with all things dodge. And a HUGE shout out to swbhobie16, you guys have seen his work and will get to see more, but dang he has just been a blessing of help. So thank you to you all for the help with this project, it is appreciated more than you know.

Now, let’s talk about brakes. Originally my 92 axles were Dana70 drum in the rear, and Dana 60 caliper rotor up front. It was also driven by a simple vacuum brake booster. Being we are intending this truck to fill the role of what our 2007 duramax did, we are trying to upgrade things as best our ability allows.

The booster on the 74 was also set up for drum/drum axles. Which uses a different amount of residual pressure than the 92 booster, as well as the 99 hydro boost system that got installed. So the brakes really never worked after swapping axles.

To solve and improve the braking system issues, I installed a hydroboost and power steering pump off a 99 Dodge Ram 2500.

Then after that install I installed Shawn’s rear disc conversion plates with ‘77 k2500 calipers, rotors, pads, and brake lines.

I’m going to break the pictures up into two posts with the hydroboost in this one. The install of the hydroboost did not come without weird issues. I originally purchased a new booster, master cylinder, and pump. Well come to find out, there is a spacer that you must have in order to mount the master cylinder onto the hydroboost unit. Pump was installed without issue.

The new boost unit, notice anything wrong with it?

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190521/cda18f237430d182ea25ccac8328e1f3.jpg)

Dirty vac pump.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190521/1bba0c1fc4dd7944d5c9ebdd2d8c669e.jpg)

Clean!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190521/d14f625396ef33e041b50c79189763b3.jpg)

Painted!!!!
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190521/4f1f851b083424dfc7c09fa96d7882d3.jpg)

Even though I bought the new stuff, I ended up buying this complete setup off eBay as well. Considering I didn’t have the spacer that is needed.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190521/a0c4e9df3a2426d8a591eedea001c411.jpg)

Here’s the spacer that makes the booster and master cylinder fit. If you don’t have this spacer the two will not bolt up for several reasons. Wrong direction of things, bolt width is off, the rod would be too long.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190521/d7e6633ce805a45984d2ab12781e8229.jpg)

Early attempts to seal the hole in the firewall ended like this... no good at all.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190521/38097a863309223c4a4a9469e72d1950.jpg)

I also had to have lines made from the pump to booster to steering box. But I can’t get the pictures of my mock ups to work.

Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 21, 2019, 10:11:58 AM
Nice work. I take it the drip rails now drip vs channeling the water away?

Don’t know, hasn’t been in water yet. Should still work close to factory.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: JR on May 21, 2019, 11:07:09 AM
Just teasing you!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 21, 2019, 12:10:59 PM
Now onto the rear disc conversion. For starters if you own a Dana 70, prepare for more than a bolt on situation. Spacers or bracket relocation is needed.

Thanks again to Shawn for making a great product.

You can see the bracket hanging, it is painted the same as the diff cover.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190521/e667d4ec7c9455220400f94cdbae4ad0.jpg)

To start you need to remove the eight bolts that hold the axle shaft in, slide it out, and then remove the spindle nut. Some have two nuts and a locking type washer, this one had a single nylon locking spindle nut.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190521/a670df1eb188de21050394c60a3827ab.jpg)

Your outer hub bearing should come out without issue.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190521/67faeb0cd0212ebe97527cafba7cfc4a.jpg)

Then slide the hub and drum off and drive out the lug studs. Because you’ll be reusing your hub.

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Hub lifts right off.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190521/ca6e517204a7fda9b28cc815ab764d46.jpg)

There are four bolts holding the brake pad mount on, remove those and your bracket slides off and can be discarded to your scrap pile.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190521/548406095f68beba54ace5411caf9511.jpg)

At this point things started to get really interesting for me. The PO of the donor truck which my driveline came off of swapped in larger lug studs. I wanted uniformity so I wanted to go back to the size that came on the truck. But it wasn’t as simple as buying factory lugs because the lug stud holes in the hubs had been opened up.

So I needed to find a stud with a big enough and long enough shoulder to keep the rotor on the hub.

It took a few tries to find the right one, but eventually I did. Here is a comparison of what was in the drums to what needed to be installed in my rotors.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190521/5ce2d26087a6265eabfcf14640175bf6.jpg)

Then the real fun began, trying to install the studs into the rotors and hubs, the k2500 stud holes were too small.
 
I ruined two rotors even after changing studs. Then finally listens to people wiser than I and bored out the stud holes so the studs ONLY made contact with the hub.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190521/c902539f9b6a880f9e099edae55cdd79.jpg)

So now you have your hub and rotors joined.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190521/6c73e53781a703eabcb9e7b275dd29f2.jpg)

I then had my rotors faced to put a good surface on them.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190521/66cdfd6911005260490c42fbbb8e224c.jpg)

I also replaced my out bearings because the races had a gash in them.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190521/87d97d9615285869b1d92d65d1e1231c.jpg)

Now your at the point of bolting on your bracket and re installing your newly mated rotor and hub.... or so you think

This is where everything sits when bolted on, on a Dana 70. Obviously it won’t work.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190521/49ae9261c959a52df981bdb9de8773ca.jpg)

So I reached out to Shawn for some schooling! After learning occurred I began measuring and found I would need spacers of about 1.75”. So I pondered, and asked about relocating the bracket.... I chose to relocate the bracket.

Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 21, 2019, 12:23:45 PM
So I put the pads in the caliper bolted it to the disc conversion bracket from GLO and rested it on there to get an idea.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190521/1f47180f8d83f141943255fe0b6a581a.jpg)

You can see although it’s not straight the gap is significant to where the disc conversion bracket would normally bolt to.


When the disc conversion bracket (DCB) was straight this is the distance between factory mount on axle tube and the DCB.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190521/df784e4a90a8198b2fe3d946cb956b0e.jpg)

I then began making a bracket.... by calling my local steel supply and having them brake me som 6”x6” 3/8” thick plate. Then they took it to a machine shop and had the center hole of 3” waterjetted into it... the tube diameter is actually something like 3.02 so I had to open it up a bit more.

Freshly picked up.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190521/9fb5855cf135c92a8df8b7f95ba51d69.jpg)

Opened up a bit with an end mill but on my drill press.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190521/2581f53be59a31e0d895033df1a63f9e.jpg)

And they fit!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190521/dfb3a03f750a692c906d6e419a342367.jpg)

Drilled some bolt holes and welded them in place.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190521/642c649bfa74b10447262efa2cf1093d.jpg)

I trimmed up both sides, cleaned everything up with a wire wheel and painted them. Here they are primed.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190521/3b920999951ed0e3b8fb6d70f52a9501.jpg)

Then I installed it all.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190521/d0a5e6087114687b3057fe423ca7df11.jpg)

Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: JR on May 21, 2019, 02:54:35 PM
Nice quick fab work. I was almost thinking alum spacer on the stock mount.

Don't drop something on those toes!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: stlaser on May 21, 2019, 07:31:08 PM
Technically we have bolt on options for some Dana 70’s, just not yours Turner!  :popcorn:
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 21, 2019, 08:31:43 PM
Technically we have bolt on options for some Dana 70’s, just not yours Turner!  :popcorn:

Yea I recall talking to you about that. That’s ok this worked out well.

Now I’m just trying to figure out why the front brakes are receiving what appears to be max pressure while the rear doesn’t seem to be receiving any.

I know I need to install the proportioning valve to adjust the amount to the rear but I figured I’d be able to get it close.

So what we’re working with for everyone who reads this, 1999 Dodge 2500 Cummins powered hydroboost and master cylinder, 1992 Dodge W250 front calipers, 1977 K2500 front calipers (in the rear).

This is happening while the engine is not running so I don’t know if having the hydroboost “on” would make a difference.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wilsonphil on May 21, 2019, 09:25:35 PM
Technically we have bolt on options for some Dana 70’s, just not yours Turner!  :popcorn:

Likely excuse!!!!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wilsonphil on May 21, 2019, 09:37:34 PM
And what did you do with the original vacuum pump setup that was on your 93?
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Flyin6 on May 21, 2019, 09:48:36 PM
Is that hydro boost upside down?
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Dfarm01 on May 21, 2019, 10:27:08 PM
This is a bit (well, lots) more extensive than what I was envisioning.

Impressive so far

In some ways I think it was less of a headache than I dealt with and turned out much better.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Dfarm01 on May 21, 2019, 10:38:27 PM
A problem with older dodge bodies like this and why the floors are rusted into nothing, is that the seam sealer at the factory was hit or miss on the quality. Most of the time it was a miss, and it simply allowed water in through the A pillar and it would sit on the floor board.

Over the years people address it, but I’m guessing the solution it just add more, instead of clean, repair, seal. Thus just encapsulating the problem rather than fixing it.

So I thought I’d try to fix it. First I removed all of the old dried out stuff, the caulking that was on top of that, any paint, rust down to bare steel.

Then rejoined the several spots where the roof had become detached by putting some simple spot welds down.

After it was all together again, I laid down a couple tubes of self leveling seam sealer, with some heavy bodied seam sealer on the verticals.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190520/16465d1b7e1fdcf729fa1b066342d4e6.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190520/975b8f11cb8a5d12438339f1a6ef1f6a.jpg)

Under side of the gutter also got cleaned and re sealed. This is pre clean.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190520/db009ea915d92da4fa449f0dcca3704e.jpg)

Driver side under the gutter nastiness.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190520/66b057e2dcbe081c4a7da28886e56aff.jpg)

Again driver side, but this is the gutter. You can see the roof panel is not fully connected.
This is one of the spots I had to add some weld to.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190520/07336947d037b68b510fa9e44edd3e70.jpg)

This is the front gutter after I filled it with self leveling.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190520/778d566d8cab0598e1e9936dadfffcf1.jpg)

This is the 2k stuff I used. The mix tubes work great, just simply squeeze it like a caulking gun and it comes out properly mixed!!!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190520/6663d41514df476353f88530f65a706c.jpg)
I wonder if this could be my issue too. I parked mine outside andcwe got some rain.  I went to get some dirt for the garden and noticed a small puddle on the passenger floor. I'm glad I haven't put the floor insulation and rubber mat in yet.

I'll have to give this a look.

Is it the whole gutter, or just above the windshield that will leak on to the floor?  Someone installed a visor on my truck and I haven't removed it yet :undecided:

Thanks a bunch for posting this!  Your truck is going to be awesome!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 21, 2019, 10:45:01 PM
Is that hydro boost upside down?

Not quite, but yes I originally mounted it 90 degrees off... oops.
Title: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 21, 2019, 10:48:44 PM
A problem with older dodge bodies like this and why the floors are rusted into nothing, is that the seam sealer at the factory was hit or miss on the quality. Most of the time it was a miss, and it simply allowed water in through the A pillar and it would sit on the floor board.

Over the years people address it, but I’m guessing the solution it just add more, instead of clean, repair, seal. Thus just encapsulating the problem rather than fixing it.

So I thought I’d try to fix it. First I removed all of the old dried out stuff, the caulking that was on top of that, any paint, rust down to bare steel.

Then rejoined the several spots where the roof had become detached by putting some simple spot welds down.

After it was all together again, I laid down a couple tubes of self leveling seam sealer, with some heavy bodied seam sealer on the verticals.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190520/16465d1b7e1fdcf729fa1b066342d4e6.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190520/975b8f11cb8a5d12438339f1a6ef1f6a.jpg)

Under side of the gutter also got cleaned and re sealed. This is pre clean.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190520/db009ea915d92da4fa449f0dcca3704e.jpg)

Driver side under the gutter nastiness.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190520/66b057e2dcbe081c4a7da28886e56aff.jpg)

Again driver side, but this is the gutter. You can see the roof panel is not fully connected.
This is one of the spots I had to add some weld to.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190520/07336947d037b68b510fa9e44edd3e70.jpg)

This is the front gutter after I filled it with self leveling.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190520/778d566d8cab0598e1e9936dadfffcf1.jpg)

This is the 2k stuff I used. The mix tubes work great, just simply squeeze it like a caulking gun and it comes out properly mixed!!!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190520/6663d41514df476353f88530f65a706c.jpg)
I wonder if this could be my issue too. I parked mine outside andcwe got some rain.  I went to get some dirt for the garden and noticed a small puddle on the passenger floor. I'm glad I haven't put the floor insulation and rubber mat in yet.

I'll have to give this a look.

Is it the whole gutter, or just above the windshield that will leak on to the floor?  Someone installed a visor on my truck and I haven't removed it yet :undecided:

Thanks a bunch for posting this!  Your truck is going to be awesome!

I was once told to poke it with a screw driver.... you’ll find the soft spots. It could be anywhere on the front of the gutter. The sealer didn’t seal, and it weeps to the outside and down the inside of the A pillar.... it could also be coming from the cowel, as there is ducting to the sides that lead from there to the cab, one of mine was absolutely leaking as it is basically non existent. Did the best I could to repair it.

Does that make sense?

You can clean and repair the whole thing in a day if you wanted to. I just work like my mind flows, so everything happens at once.

Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 21, 2019, 10:49:49 PM
Ok so with the help of swbhobie and wilsonphil, I think I may have the brakes close to whipped. We will know tomorrow as I’m going to try and drive it. Dinner called so I quit working.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: stlaser on May 21, 2019, 11:13:48 PM
Technically we have bolt on options for some Dana 70’s, just not yours Turner!  :popcorn:

Likely excuse!!!!

Possible..... With that said I dislike Dana 70's from a brake conversion standpoint. Turner is just complicated in general and I think he will readily admit it. So why shouldn't his truck be that way too?  :popcorn:
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: KensAuto on May 21, 2019, 11:52:03 PM
I do have that a/c crimp tool. Its handy, but, the local parts houses where I by the hose and fittings also crimp them for free. Here, Merles and Napa ( Napa now owns Merles)
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 22, 2019, 12:07:36 AM
I do have that a/c crimp tool. Its handy, but, the local parts houses where I by the hose and fittings also crimp them for free. Here, Merles and Napa ( Napa now owns Merles)

Wait wait wait... napa as a whole owns Merle’s? I thought all Napa’s were a franchise and someone had to front the money to buy use of the name... we have a napa and a Merle’s about 400yds from each other. Both make hydraulic hoses, but I didn’t know they could crimp AC hoses. Will have to check in on that as I have all the stuff to make the hoses just not the crimp tool.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 22, 2019, 12:09:14 AM
Technically we have bolt on options for some Dana 70’s, just not yours Turner!  :popcorn:

Likely excuse!!!!

Possible..... With that said I dislike Dana 70's from a brake conversion standpoint. Turner is just complicated in general and I think he will readily admit it. So why shouldn't his truck be that way too?  :popcorn:


This truck is WAY MORE complicated than I am. But we’re getting it under control.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: KensAuto on May 22, 2019, 12:17:05 AM
Yeah the company that owns Napa is Gmb, or something like that,  and they bought out Merles last year,  but they plan to keep them separate. Napa is franchise, but still big company backed.
Title: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 22, 2019, 12:27:52 AM
Yeah the company that owns Napa is Gmb, or something like that,  and they bought out Merles last year,  but they plan to keep them separate. Napa is franchise, but still big company backed.

Learning has occurred! I use them both, but tend to use napa more, because I once worked at one, then while working there got offered a job as a mechanic at a one man shop in our town. He often commented on preference of napa over carquest. Now his options are carquest and o’Reilly’s, which he still complains about. Great guy none the less!

Are you gonna start a retirement snow hare thread? I would say snow bird but your kind of the exact opposite of a snow bird, you live in the heat and bought land in the cold.... WEIRD!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Dfarm01 on May 22, 2019, 12:29:22 AM
Thanks. That makes sense. I'll have to take the visor off and look around the gutters. Judging by the rest of the truck, they'll be mostly rust held together with clear silicone. Lol

I'll probably look into the cowl area too. I remember cleaning it out and it not being rusty, but I'll give it a better look from the inside.

Thanks again for the info.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 22, 2019, 12:40:03 AM
Thanks. That makes sense. I'll have to take the visor off and look around the gutters. Judging by the rest of the truck, they'll be mostly rust held together with clear silicone. Lol

I'll probably look into the cowl area too. I remember cleaning it out and it not being rusty, but I'll give it a better look from the inside.

Thanks again for the info.

Look at the outside, of the gutter above the windshield. This is where my worst spots of rust were, and the only spots in the gutter that were rust through entirely. You can clean it out pretty easy with a screw driver and a razor blade. Then hit it with a wire wheel of your choice. Then lay down the goo!!! There are plenty of options that don’t require a special squirt gun to apply it. You can get some in a caulk like tube, that your house hold caulking gun will apply. Our local body shop supply store has it on the shelf, and I can find it on the webz. If you strip it and need help finding something, post it up and please don’t use caulking from the hardware store....
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 22, 2019, 09:16:42 PM
Today was not really productive.... at all. Started out by thinking I could work out the last few kinks in the brake system.  With some ideas and tips from Phil and Swbhobie, I went at it.

The task at hand was to figure out why the front calipers were locking out. Started by testing if the hydroboost (HB) was not releasing the plunger. Which come to find out it was a bit slow but ultimately don’t think that was the problem.

It was also a bit rusted out in there. I cleaned it best I could. This is a used unit sooo yea. I have a new one on the shelf if need be.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190523/7fb669a998d857d21ed8bf36e4345b0e.jpg)

So once cleaned and bled a bit more the plunger operated like it is supposed to. Reconnected the HB and master cylinder and began on the brakes. To no avail.

Disconnected lines, did not release. Realized I left the 74 proportioning valve in line... removed it, no release.

Pulled the innards of the prop valve thinking I was going to reuse it. Was instructed not to so it’s not in there.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190523/dbe84e2d7995f87c52b92e07731fb64e.jpg)

At the suggestion of Phil, and I should have started here long ago, I have ultimately pulled everything off and will be installing new brake components and lines.

Spindles look ok but have some pitting.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190523/b15ffc88f5ccd86b8450916aa9a89109.jpg)

Pulled the front diff cover to inspect and install my bullet proof cover from Shawn. Found it had sat with water at some point.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190523/0ac6a003706a8daf051632eda979e541.jpg)

Anybody know what the white crud is on the gears and in the back of the diff? Thought it was metal filings but doesn’t seem to be. Fluid looked decent.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190523/a07f9a188ed925acc692591a606aab24.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190523/9de6ac235a6a11e8f23e61440f0db28c.jpg)

So as it sits, no hubs, rotors, calipers, or diff cover waiting for it to drain. Brake lines are disconnected from the MC, and I need to make new hard lines for the front axle.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: JR on May 22, 2019, 09:46:15 PM
I would just throw the new hydro on.

I have seen much worse water damage in pumpkins. Looks pretty good.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wilsonphil on May 22, 2019, 09:57:01 PM
I agree on the water "staining" seen much much worst.  The white stuff most likely calcified water if its soft then just clean it up.  The spindles look fine also also long as the bearing area and where the seal rides is pit free then you should not have a problem.

This is the only thing bad about the lockable hub axles water if its gets in just lays, if you dont change fluids once a year or after deep water crossing it will end up looking like this.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 23, 2019, 07:10:29 AM
i know it’s a ton more work to do, but you’re already half way there. i put a set of outer axle seals on both 60s i just did. $75 for the pair. but you pack them with grease on the inside and a smear of RTV on the outside.. no intrusion from water/dust/dirt etc into the axle tubes themselves.

(https://i.imgur.com/xgu6ZI3.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/reSoGEI.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/8cZkS3g.jpg)

Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 23, 2019, 11:08:06 AM
i know it’s a ton more work to do, but you’re already half way there. i put a set of outer axle seals on both 60s i just did. $75 for the pair. but you pack them with grease on the inside and a smear of RTV on the outside.. no intrusion from water/dust/dirt etc into the axle tubes themselves.

(https://i.imgur.com/xgu6ZI3.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/reSoGEI.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/8cZkS3g.jpg)

This would be the thing to do. Along with a complete change to Yukon 35spline stuff and hubs...Another time.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: EL TATE on May 23, 2019, 02:26:04 PM
I agree on the water "staining" seen much much worst.  The white stuff most likely calcified water if its soft then just clean it up.  The spindles look fine also also long as the bearing area and where the seal rides is pit free then you should not have a problem.

This is the only thing bad about the lockable hub axles water if its gets in just lays, if you dont change fluids once a year or after deep water crossing it will end up looking like this.
Most likely emulsified oil and water that hardened as it sat above fluid line. not a problem if it's not pitted rust.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: EL TATE on May 23, 2019, 02:27:30 PM
looking really good so far man, good work. you need any tech stuff on the diff let me know.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 23, 2019, 03:29:42 PM
looking really good so far man, good work. you need any tech stuff on the diff let me know.

Tate sent you a PM just now.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 23, 2019, 08:12:57 PM
So I made a brake line tab for the rear brake line today. Then worked on seat mount stuff.

This floppy hose needed a holder.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190524/f6a1e447386419465ca2f56ecffab2f5.jpg)

Started with this for the tab. It’s a bit thick, but I had it in the garage!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190524/b698f031184c485f67b36a91cbf60c27.jpg)

Drilled a hole in it, so the threaded portion of my brake lines could fit neatly.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190524/7ffeff031f1596911931769c6ab2910b.jpg)

Cut that chunk out.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190524/3adac4170fdb1aacfe7273939ef744b4.jpg)

Then I electrified it to the axle tube!!!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190524/44eea5dd20655fb0c2180f04177d56fd.jpg)

I also found I had a brake hose for the front just laying in my tool box! Went ahead and installed it.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190524/08933de23139c647f5d6392a3c727f4d.jpg)

All the front brake components are due to arrive tomorrow, so hopefully I can get the brakes operational soon. Heading over to a friends place to start installing a fence tomorrow though, sooo maybe Saturday.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wilsonphil on May 23, 2019, 09:22:47 PM
Just an FYI there are MANY options for calipers and rotors for that axle!!!!

And the banjo bolts are metric!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 23, 2019, 09:49:09 PM
Just an FYI there are MANY options for calipers and rotors for that axle!!!!

And the banjo bolts are metric!

Ain’t that the truth! I did the best I could with what I had. Compared everything to the info on rock auto, let’s hope I did it right.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 24, 2019, 08:55:25 PM
So we went and surveyed what needs to be fenced, 510’ of no climb, with four gates....

Started working on little things again, and got the calipers and rotors in, both the same as what came off just shiny and hopefully proper working.

Was going to put the hubs and rotors together but thought it best to replace the inner wheel seals on the hubs. Which then sparked a find my bike helmet hunt so my son and I could ride to town... no dice and wife said I can’t ride on the highway without a helmet, so we rode the four miles to the highway and she picked us up.

Also did a little more on the seat brackets.

Our shiny new rotors.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190525/db7fdc3f46e1adb0fe003f5b4f4a8e97.jpg)

New and old calipers, super shiny

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190525/f752594d4059fb5354b356f59606225f.jpg)

So our seat brackets, still unsure if what I’ve come up with is the best option, but here it is.

This is the bottom of our buckets. They came out of a late 80s early 90s dodge conversion van. They were mounted on a swivel pedestal.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190525/ca64634be7b14e99e29745c863e2b7b9.jpg)

I had this bent up at our metal shop. Then I drilled 8 holes in them, four on top and four on bottom.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190525/28db13ae57728a462a48de0b5889331e.jpg)

I had this hat channel type steel broken up originally for support of the floor. But decided it was not needed. So I drilled some holes in them too.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190525/b15a7a0a822a9028ff8b657a0ff1b56b.jpg)

Then these bolts will be welded in on the back side.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190525/c1b4e4782cc42be2918d136cdaeebee9.jpg)

Then the main bracket will rest on top of that and be bolted down.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190525/300dda27e2826abdaefe80e9686e18f3.jpg)

Like this! I will then weld the hat channel to the floor.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190525/e8b18a75814a4b3d6b3e1d81f1651d4d.jpg)

We went this route while working with our upholster on the best way to install the carpet and have it look nice. All that will be sticking up is the 8 bolts. There will also be no more holes through my floor.

All you smarter than me people, if this is no good please let me know before it is glued in.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 26, 2019, 11:55:40 PM
Small amount of progress and a decent step of slow down...

Got both hubs/rotors back on and awaiting calipers.


(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190527/80a01ad4850d35233b970f30b7839b26.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190527/797fc232871e1f834b00971e250a6cf5.jpg)

Then while cleaning the rotors this happened.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190527/205b794e652ce4254615955d7b031ae3.jpg)

Definitely worse than it looks. After it happened I immediately wrapped with clean paper towel with some bad language, then went back outside hollering at myself, then laid down on the drive way with my up. Have had it elevated for the majority of the time since it has happened. Swollen super painful, questioning if it ain’t fractured. Would be par for the course! Hopefully I can get in on Tuesday for another issue I’ve been fighting since February, will also get it scanned if I go.

This is about 3 hours later. No ice. Iced it for 30minutes after this pic.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190527/473436c670856bda51548c2c6152ab1a.jpg)

Call me what you will, but doggoneit, stupid accidents on primary use fingers are the worst.

Even ruint the rotors with blood... it just started pouring from finger upon it happening. Been a while since I’ve seen blood flow like that.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190527/f35e287fe557986056e746237735358c.jpg)
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: JR on May 27, 2019, 12:52:11 AM
Its broken in now. What is a good days work without a little blood,,,,,,
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Bigdave_185 on May 27, 2019, 01:10:43 AM
I got one of those good ones a week or so ago.  With a putty knife
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190527/8675d29d918225e75c06247d3760af22.jpg)

Super glue for the save!


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Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 27, 2019, 01:14:15 AM
Nice job Dave! The only way I can describe the pain that isn’t going away, is like a fresh hit from a hammer on your thumb... gahhh. After opening it today, it certainly could have benefited from a couple stitches, but wife wasn’t willing, and drs office isn’t open. So it’ll sit as is.... painfully. Might have her install the calipers and talk her through the brake lines tomorrow. That would be awesome! Yes I think I will.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 27, 2019, 07:38:22 AM
 :likebutton:
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Flyin6 on May 27, 2019, 10:51:23 AM
Can you get some steri-strips on that?
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 27, 2019, 11:48:09 AM
Can you get some steri-strips on that?

Tried but it’s in really awkward location. After it dries out it’ll be getting super glue!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: JR on May 27, 2019, 11:30:51 PM
That needs pics!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 27, 2019, 11:53:55 PM
That needs pics!

Honestly JR, it has healed ten fold. Our son prayed by himself about it roughly an hour after it happened, and I attribute it to his child like faith.  It looks kind of gross but it is closed up significantly... and because you asked...

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190528/749aaae7c8196dcb955d8538b3cef39d.jpg)

God is great, even when everything seems to be in disarray He is there, and my son is a wonderful reminder of that!!! And because of him my finger is mostly pain free.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: JR on May 28, 2019, 03:45:05 AM
That needs pics!

Referring to the wife doing the work, not the finger.

Think we all do that enough here that it would fill half the forums,,,,,,,
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 28, 2019, 07:50:47 AM
That needs pics!

Referring to the wife doing the work, not the finger.

Think we all do that enough here that it would fill half the forums,,,,,,,

Ahh right. I ended up doing it while she worked in the house.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 28, 2019, 04:51:27 PM
nothing like a little brake kleen to help clean up a fresh cut..
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 28, 2019, 08:30:25 PM
nothing like a little brake kleen to help clean up a fresh cut..

More naptha!! Just spray it every where!!!
Title: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 28, 2019, 08:37:58 PM
Ok so got the brakes plumbed to the distribution block on the frame. Ran out of tube so I didn’t finish.

Then found I need new steering bushings, yay! Fix one thing to find another need to be fixed.

Also got my front bulletproof cover on and filled.

Welded my seat bolts onto the bottom mount, then painted the inside that will not be seen but still want to try to prevent rust.

Welded and nasty.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190529/528a90e5c5e62271b765977665fc77a2.jpg)

Wire wheeled.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190529/6960f7f08577d5a909c44a240526c450.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190529/86712d5334b48a41d47ef48e4819290f.jpg)

Self etch primed.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190529/9a8d6e0665cd3a8d5b93d425421539a5.jpg)

And painted!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190529/45072890512de206c8ad38e573f1afb0.jpg)

I need to add some more steel to the actual seat bracket which will be the center console jump seat mount. And that piece of the puzzle will be solved.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 30, 2019, 11:47:54 PM
I’m not sure where I am in the order of things. I just know I’ve been bouncing between getting brakes done, which they are, and the seat brackets mounted.

So the brakes... everything has been replaced. I need to put the new hydroboost unit on still, but been trying to get these seat brackets done.

Rear brake from MC to distribution block on the frame rail.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190531/016320b1f160f0e4d7084e47bbcafbc3.jpg)

Also found about this time, that my king pin bushings are shot... oh joy.


Then I centered up the drivers seat on the steering wheel and made the stud mounts permanent, or mostly.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190531/b675b02f31a02fb32de4ddb66b139a31.jpg)

Measured the passenger side to be the same distance from door sill and permantized those stud plates

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190531/8efb57ea35612b4cf53b548d078ca6e6.jpg)

Then came the fun of figuring out the jumpsole (jump seat console).

Original plan made it sit a wee bit low...

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190531/b1c2c50c220a4da2decafbe2fb474f97.jpg)

This shows the angle iron tacked to the bucket seat brackets.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190531/d51ccd04587564446b78c22a4e5d7a67.jpg)

Or maybe 4”

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190531/657516c43d394a884036e19d3a9fcfe1.jpg)

And after the 4” lift it’s close to proper.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190531/30a8af124a6e47d5c8228ef64f2e69de.jpg)

So I had to come up with something to make it sit higher...

Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 30, 2019, 11:57:10 PM
The jumpsole lift kit commenced with this bit of metal. It is 4 pieces of 1.5”x2” 1/8” thick angle iron.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190531/e47a3dfd7e6b4154a33413010011bf36.jpg)

Then I chopped a long and short into this.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190531/36ac9cdd521c0a75c9258f39f01eaa5c.jpg)

Then tacked it together. A table would be helpful, as well as a vice... and 90° magnets... but I digress the ground did just fine!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190531/96c1db2066d8e32122638688d2b47845.jpg)

Repeated the process on the second two pieces of angle, and made them one. This one came out 1/8” narrow than the space between the bucket brackets. First one came out just as it started, 29 3/8”!!!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190531/c39dbdb253296df614c0b3e5a45a1599.jpg)

Here they are waiting to be ground down.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190531/2abbb3ce090751587ccadfdd06ef3f13.jpg)

Then I took some flat stock and made some more rails for the bottom of the jump sole.

It’s bolt pattern is longer than the bucket brackets. So it will bolt to these two pieces which will sit on top of the lift kit.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190531/5ad424dbf04b95bb7595161cb10906d9.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190531/cea90d23a6e4af343b7b83186c06a5fa.jpg)

that’s where I called it and came in to
Make dinner. Will get the seat brackets all finished up tomorrow. Then will get them cleaned and painted.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: TexasRedNeck on May 31, 2019, 06:06:32 AM
You need one of them Big D Cardboard Welding Tables


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Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: cj7ox on May 31, 2019, 07:26:22 AM
Looking good, Wyo! I'm disappointed in your choice of welding footwear, though. I believe mandals are the appropriate PPE for that task! LOL!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 31, 2019, 07:32:07 AM
yea.. who uses that much caution?!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Flyin6 on May 31, 2019, 08:11:45 AM
Looking good, Wyo! I'm disappointed in your choice of welding footwear, though. I believe mandals are the appropriate PPE for that task! LOL!
I saw that!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: dave945 on May 31, 2019, 08:13:17 AM
But I’m sure the pillow he was kneeling on was rated as fireproof.


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Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 31, 2019, 09:44:03 AM
But I’m sure the pillow he was kneeling on was rated as fireproof.


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Was once a dog bed, so the layer of dirt did add some fire retardancy!!!

I have been known to wear flip flops for all manners of work... just been fighting a damaged kankle so boots are the order of the day.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Nate on May 31, 2019, 10:23:11 AM
But I’m sure the pillow he was kneeling on was rated as fireproof.


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Was once a dog bed, so the layer of dirt did add some fire retardancy!!!

I have been known to wear flip flops for all manners of work... just been fighting a damaged kankle so boots are the order of the day.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

why are you talking about kens favorite part of his girlfriend?
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 31, 2019, 10:35:02 AM
But I’m sure the pillow he was kneeling on was rated as fireproof.


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Was once a dog bed, so the layer of dirt did add some fire retardancy!!!

I have been known to wear flip flops for all manners of work... just been fighting a damaged kankle so boots are the order of the day.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

why are you talking about kens favorite part of his girlfriend?

.... when your own ankle swells and looses the defining area between calf and ankle... you have a kankle. Similar to what she lives with all the time. Except mine still works and doesn’t cause me to fall into cars, or have to be helped up or down stairs...
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wilsonphil on May 31, 2019, 11:10:52 AM
But I’m sure the pillow he was kneeling on was rated as fireproof.


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Was once a dog bed, so the layer of dirt did add some fire retardancy!!!

I have been known to wear flip flops for all manners of work... just been fighting a damaged kankle so boots are the order of the day.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

why are you talking about kens favorite part of his girlfriend?

OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 31, 2019, 11:20:34 PM
Ok more progress...

Started the day by replacing the HB unit.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190601/cedfff846daf2af8e8dcdea20149d565.jpg)

Then back at the seat mounts. Needed to finish up the center console bracket and tabs.

These tabs ended up with a hole and welded to the center of the two bucket seat brackets.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190601/6ac40beb89ac92995fd774d65701e522.jpg)

The jumpsole flat stock and main pieces were tacked in place here.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190601/8296575ce66a63ad750408386bd0b160.jpg)

First of four holes drilled through jumpsole bracket and tab.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190601/8bb165f8e053b37d0acb71b20582308b.jpg)

Second, then repeated on the front.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190601/9bda3b66c59dad72d62d7f327fee856b.jpg)

After the holes were drilled, I removed the tack welds to the bucket brackets. And finished welding up the jumpsole flat stock.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190601/2d29746c587edb52c9c0f1999a627a9c.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190601/bcd46079ad383e7df42fc665fb435b8c.jpg)

Finished welding up the tabs which the jumpsole bracket will bolt to.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190601/416d7890a915cfd7c61e2c68a9735e99.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190601/572db2ceedfa4d77b4822abd1563699d.jpg)

Cleaned the welds, and here is the finished product.

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Also finished welding up the bolt plates onto the floor. Now I just need to prep and paint the seat brackets and clean the floor. This piece is at least currently usable.

Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: JR on June 01, 2019, 12:01:06 AM
Looks good
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on June 02, 2019, 11:11:28 PM
In preparation for the core support to be mounted I had to make some minor adjustments.

This hole needed to be smally sized!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190603/475d535e2e6b6936a1eba4319324432d.jpg)

So I started with big washers...

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190603/63b4ae4b4ed53950f4a735d6489e11b7.jpg)

With my grinder and impact and some
Time, I ground them down to 1 3/16”

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190603/c6d7b21b4cde729b5157ee5193745491.jpg)

Finally product, a bit oblong but it worked well.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190603/7d7b6f68a39cdba0d1c3fdbab6748328.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190603/742ec1ba28612406211bcc4eaacfacca.jpg)

Welded em in

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190603/9d8b0a6737c087f43666ab4c4812b362.jpg)

Cleaned em up. Will paint tomorrow.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190603/173e989b026d5e557582f5ef32d15864.jpg)

Also cleaned the seat brackets and started paint there. Then cleaned the interior welds.


Here she is basking in the sun!

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Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: swbhobie16 on June 03, 2019, 07:01:32 AM
spent all that time on the seat brackets and you’re still using a napa bucket.

ohh well.. if it works it works!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on June 03, 2019, 09:25:25 AM
spent all that time on the seat brackets and you’re still using a napa bucket.

ohh well.. if it works it works!

Seat brackets may be ready, but the floor had to be cleaned. Bucket did work well though!!! I’d have to modify to floor mount a bit in order to make it permanent...
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: TexasRedNeck on June 03, 2019, 02:57:01 PM
Looks pretty good like it sits!


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Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on June 03, 2019, 07:16:18 PM
Looks pretty good like it sits!


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See, build yourself a 12v rat rod!!! If I could keep it as a “toy” rather than a daily driver, I’d probably make it a mad max styled truck. But we need a full size pickup so it’s has to be properly finished.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: TexasRedNeck on June 03, 2019, 08:04:29 PM
Dunno.  I have a bug to do something not structural construction.

I have a bead on a 2008 F250 frame and both axles.  Will start working on a roller with a NV4500 and maybe a 2 speed transfer case to put with the 12V and then figure out what body to drop on it.

Got a lot to learn about straight axle trucks....


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Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on June 03, 2019, 11:38:13 PM
Got the seat brackets all painted up but no pictures. As well as the core support mounts painted, plus a few other bare steel spots on the frame.

Pulled transfer case and installed the adapter gasket so it would stop leaking.

Started brain storming how we’re going to install the twin sticks on the floor. Several options just trying to figure the best one. May modify the bracket that it currently sits in.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190604/f33f47ec76d778fc61e9c2f1d1f6b7ef.jpg)

Talked with the wife about it when she got home, and we’re going to create some cardboard cutouts to see if we may want to move it further forward closer to the firewall. Which will also require cutting of the original bracket.

Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: JR on June 03, 2019, 11:45:08 PM
Dunno.  I have a bug to do something not structural construction.

I have a bead on a 2008 F250 frame and both axles.  Will start working on a roller with a NV4500 and maybe a 2 speed transfer case to put with the 12V and then figure out what body to drop on it.

Got a lot to learn about straight axle trucks....


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Remember what Norm said about a 12v and the sterling don't play well.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on June 04, 2019, 09:21:04 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190605/35dfaf0f9c4b6f105f5e92996955faaf.jpg)
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: stlaser on June 04, 2019, 09:56:22 PM
Dunno.  I have a bug to do something not structural construction.

I have a bead on a 2008 F250 frame and both axles.  Will start working on a roller with a NV4500 and maybe a 2 speed transfer case to put with the 12V and then figure out what body to drop on it.

Got a lot to learn about straight axle trucks....


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Remember what Norm said about a 12v and the sterling don't play well.

Well, he was talking about Don & Don’s built 12v and a sterling. There are a couple things you can do to beef them up though. The money in what Charles is looking at though is the front axle and radius arm suspension.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on June 20, 2019, 09:01:27 PM
Very little to report. Been working on filling orders which puts the truck off.

Found out today we are moving for work, so this needs to be done pronto.

Installed the seats and brackets to see how that all worked out, which it did pretty well. Maybe a little tall but nothing you can fix with a little cut and weld.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190621/37e930d37125dcb56824011ace0b674f.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190621/4d373d760b3df26160a99f8eda969746.jpg)

Then I attached all the coolant hoses and bypassed the heater core because it is not yet installed.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190621/121771b9b74611c8a888780a8bbbe60c.jpg)

Made a bracket to replace the lost one for the dash so I can get the AC unit installed.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190621/7ac519f819a1c5c8173aa97e206287a2.jpg)

This is my bench vice

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190621/e02549a664d99f0f03f2582a099f141d.jpg)

And found the transmission is leaking severely.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190621/eef20e25ca5c9bf315c514e96a77e625.jpg)

That’s where we are currently.

Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on June 21, 2019, 09:45:34 PM
So we cleaned the cab out, again. So we can get the sound deadening installed and do some interior painting.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190622/0428ff3ed1a581bd6475f24a57d38e44.jpg)

We also cut a hole so we can install the twin stick shifter handle jig thing.

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Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: stlaser on June 21, 2019, 10:48:39 PM
Stateside or across a pond?
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on June 21, 2019, 10:57:48 PM
Stateside or across a pond?

OCONUS.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: stlaser on June 21, 2019, 11:00:44 PM
Stateside or across a pond?

OCONUS.

 :likebutton:
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on June 22, 2019, 10:57:50 PM
So, in prep for many things we decided to strip and clean the mess before laying sound deaden. She worked with me yesterday and again today.

First we removed the rear window.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190623/a6fb4480872faaf9e2c1c3f6cb4a3e56.jpg)

Then slathered the aircraft stripper all over things.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190623/13eb68d8ef42905c847ea2403bbedf52.jpg)

Ended up close to ready for direct to metal primer, and other layers of paint.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190623/d15e9f5b12e580462952fc7afb6059ea.jpg)

Outside needs some more cleaning but the majority of the paint has been removed.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190623/fb1e1bbe36ae5c93e963d3215af4d488.jpg)

Also filled the radiator and drove it around the lot a small amount. It goes and stops well.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: KensAuto on June 22, 2019, 11:23:46 PM
Stateside or across a pond?

OCONUS.
Talking about going from one extreme to another. Better kick into high gear.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Nate on June 22, 2019, 11:33:00 PM
I see the boss is wearing don type foot gear....lol
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: stlaser on June 22, 2019, 11:34:09 PM
I’m impressed the better half was helping!  :likebutton:
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on June 23, 2019, 12:17:15 AM
I’m impressed the better half was helping!  :likebutton:
I see the boss is wearing don type foot gear....lol


Nate, she put pants on so flip flops was ok. She want running the wire wheel on the grinder so I thought mostly ok.

Shawn, she has always taken an interest in it, just doesn’t know where to actually help. Usually it’s just “what did you get done today” but with needing a full size truck time now, she’s like let’s get it done.

She is taking a week off in July so we can begin the process of sorting what is going where, so we’re hoping to have it usable by that time.

If anybody is bored and wants to come help build come on down!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on June 23, 2019, 06:13:22 PM
Finished up the inside of the cab that will be getting paint, and almost all of the back side of the cab. Needs to be proper grit sanded for the direct to metal primer I will be using.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190623/635d419aaed60667d69b549f362be161.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190623/a8cde7d98986997fe0cfcd06da5d74a9.jpg)

Everything you see that’s green will be covered by other materials, so We chose not to paint those areas.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on June 23, 2019, 11:55:01 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190624/8f474f69da5cd47252090f9eb97b3ad9.jpg)

Does anybody have a need for a twin stick cable shifter?
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: JR on June 24, 2019, 10:02:22 AM
 :likebutton:
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on June 25, 2019, 12:49:26 AM
More paint prep.... took a wire wheel to all the hard to reach spots, then sanded everything to 120grit.

Half way through the 120, can you tell which side :)

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Fully 120 grit sanded.

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Then finished out the night by putting down some direct to metal 2k stuff. I like how it sprays and the end result.

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I probably should have done some body work on the rear of the cab, but opted not to in hopes to save a few hours of work right now.

I found that there is a “shop” in our new town that I can rent a paint booth from. Soo I may do a paint over in a couple years. At which point I will also pull dents and hammer/dolley some more.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: TexasRedNeck on June 25, 2019, 06:26:38 AM
Looking great, Turner.  You need to have a “voodo” dent somewhere.  I believe that having a small dent wards off other dents.  If its perfect, you are bound to attract a dent....


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Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on June 25, 2019, 07:37:51 AM
Looking great, Turner.  You need to have a “voodo” dent somewhere.  I believe that having a small dent wards off other dents.  If its perfect, you are bound to attract a dent....


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Thanks and Yea there is some weird truth in that. Our GMC we had got its first real dent by a log wife tossed just short. Was two years before the next one.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Nate on June 25, 2019, 08:32:44 AM
I found that there is a “shop” in our new town that I can rent a paint booth from. Soo I may do a paint over in a couple years. At which point I will also pull dents and hammer/dolley some more.

the auto craft shop is not the best, but it does have lifts and all kinds of stuff for people to do this kind of work to their own vehicles without having to pay crazy high shop prices.  just a heads up, you will have to take their little class on shop safety before they will let you use anything.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Flyin6 on June 25, 2019, 10:27:33 AM
Stateside or across a pond?

OCONUS.
OH NO!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on June 25, 2019, 05:49:46 PM
I found that there is a “shop” in our new town that I can rent a paint booth from. Soo I may do a paint over in a couple years. At which point I will also pull dents and hammer/dolley some more.

the auto craft shop is not the best, but it does have lifts and all kinds of stuff for people to do this kind of work to their own vehicles without having to pay crazy high shop prices.  just a heads up, you will have to take their little class on shop safety before they will let you use anything.

Yea I’m familiar. The auto hobby shop on Lejeune was huge, and required you to watch a video class thing. They could easily shorten it to one sentence, but hey not my call, so I’ll get edumacted patiently!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on June 25, 2019, 05:50:38 PM
Stateside or across a pond?

OCONUS.
OH NO!

Nah it’s ok Chief, good for the career. You know how it goes.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Flyin6 on June 25, 2019, 08:50:04 PM
Stateside or across a pond?

OCONUS.
OH NO!

Nah it’s ok Chief, good for the career. You know how it goes.
Ya, I do know. Then just like that your career is over and VA can't wait for you to go away.
Where? Europe?? Korea? Accompanied? When?
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on June 28, 2019, 11:21:30 PM
Paint is the order of the day, hopefully will get it finished up tomorrow. It’s probably too hot to be spraying but..... oh well.  Primer didn’t turn out very good but I’ll just smooth it out

Sanded everything, put a tiny pinch of bondo on some welds, taped the seams and then filled them with SEM, put truck back in garage and went to town with a qt of primer.

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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190629/d738e349e7a3a7a24842f1ff6bec1cac.jpg)

You can see the texture... pretty sure the paint was coming out basically dry or so I think. Too much activator maybe? I don’t know not a paint specialist. It certainly didn’t come out as nice as the first set of DTM primer or the firewall.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190629/6a004253484677974c6a226d029d8f40.jpg)
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: JR on June 28, 2019, 11:35:48 PM
Yep, dry. Maybe to far away?
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: TexasRedNeck on June 29, 2019, 07:39:16 AM
Been too long since I sprayed but might be air mixture. Need to be picking up more liquid.


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Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on June 29, 2019, 09:39:47 AM
Been too long since I sprayed but might be air mixture. Need to be picking up more liquid.


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I wondered about this while spraying as I never could seem to get it dialed in. First coat went pretty well but still just not quite right. Oh well it had to be sanded for base coat anyways, just now it’s a little more than originally planned.

I should still end up with two solid coats of primer, plus the DTM under that.
Title: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on June 30, 2019, 02:11:20 AM
Ok, got a little further today, sanded it down this morning before we left for Tucson lightly with 120 to knock down the big stuff.... should have used 220.

Then came back this afternoon and everything got 320 treatment.

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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190630/49949b977527b1084773c746c62737e2.jpg)

Then ate dinner and went back out for some color... 2qts and I’m sure plenty wasted... we have this.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190630/666838027502f5da5df4903a6dac8e81.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190630/7974d6daa0d7d5e7712edd9926af6a67.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190630/cf08deaa27821a21710fec750c12bf17.jpg)

This is pre sand of the base and pre clear coat. That will happen tomorrow. And this little piece will be done. Then only a roof, four doors, two fenders, and a hood to strip DTM, sand, prime, sand, base coat, sand, clear coat, buff and polish. I now understand why good paints shops charge a lot, Ive only done what, maybe an 1/8th of the total amount, I’ve easily got 40 hours into that probably lots more.

Lessons for others that might be thinking about doing this:

- best possible prep will save time in the long run.
-Proper equipment saves even more time. I’m using less than hobbyist tools, but getting it done.
-Mix less up front so you don’t end up wasting, especially base coat as it can be quickly mixed and sprayed without sanding in between coats, it’ll Save you money.
-start by stripping everything, vs working in sections, will save you time by reducing feathering and matching at a later date. Also would allow you to spray the excess you may have foolish mixed.... speaking from experience
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: KensAuto on June 30, 2019, 09:32:00 AM
Only thing I would mention is that you shouldn't sand between base and clear, if at all possible.
Title: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on June 30, 2019, 12:41:28 PM
Only thing I would mention is that you shouldn't sand between base and clear, if at all possible.


I don’t think I have a way around it if I want it to be smooth. The section that was really textured with primer ended up textured with basecoat. Was going to hit it with something like 8-1200 in hopes to knock down the texture. It’s not orange peel, it’s that crappy too far away maybe drying from the gun spray stuff. Like a dust, or possibly an effect of the instant humidity when I started.

Should I just clear 7 coats and polish that smooth?
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on June 30, 2019, 03:50:29 PM
After taking with a local-ish hot weather car repairman painter builder guy who supposedly has googly eyes for large unstable kankles, I went ahead and laid down the clear as thick as my gun would allow. Got two coats down going to let it cure and then do some smoothing (out of clear anyways).

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190630/0c13ce3a680cf4e10fdb0ca14ad75e22.jpg)
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: KensAuto on June 30, 2019, 05:08:15 PM
You gonna post up a pic of the gear you're using, or should I..as payback for that comment?!?!

:knucklehead
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Nate on June 30, 2019, 05:31:31 PM
After taking with a local-ish hot weather car repairman painter builder guy who supposedly has googly eyes for large unstable kankles, I went ahead and laid down the clear as thick as my gun would allow. Got two coats down going to let it cure and then do some smoothing (out of clear anyways).

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190630/0c13ce3a680cf4e10fdb0ca14ad75e22.jpg)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

why so mean to ken?
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on June 30, 2019, 08:16:48 PM
After taking with a local-ish hot weather car repairman painter builder guy who supposedly has googly eyes for large unstable kankles, I went ahead and laid down the clear as thick as my gun would allow. Got two coats down going to let it cure and then do some smoothing (out of clear anyways).

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190630/0c13ce3a680cf4e10fdb0ca14ad75e22.jpg)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

why so mean to ken?

I never mentioned any names....

But since Ken did ask about my poor mans spray gun...

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190701/7062112532087d8ab8dd7c1f46ad8a76.jpg)

Everything I’ve sprayed so far has been with this 30$ siphon gun with 1-1.5” spray pattern.

Picked up a 10$ gun from harbor fraught I’m going to try in hopes it’ll cover better, question is whether or not our compressor will operate it... eh I’ve wasted more money on lesser items so what’s the harm.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on June 30, 2019, 08:19:45 PM
On a different note, (kind of) what are the suggested cutting buffing polishing compounds to use? Mixtures of the above?

All three rigs need some attention. Wish I could just park hers and pick it back up three - 4 years from right now.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on June 30, 2019, 11:57:29 PM
Ok, if at first you fail, ask for pointers and try again.

The critter spray gun you see above works, no denying that. It however had a lot of waste due to overspray. I made it work, for the most part, just slowly.

Then came today, and I was talking with Ken, and I thank you sir for the pointers, he suggested I try a low voc spray gun, so
I suggested the 10$ harbor fraught, and purchased it because it would probably spray better no matter what than the critter.

It did, significantly. As in the critter cost WAY MORE than it’s worth due to over spray.

In trying to put another layer of clear on tonight with the 10$ spray gun, I had a mishap and wasted well over half of the clear I had left, literally by it just flowing out of the gun.... I made a huge mistake and missed installing the spring to keep the valve closed.

Once properly fixed and the little bit of clear still in the tank, I went to spraying. 5 minutes later I had the inside of the cab that is getting paint, cleared for a HEAVY third time, and started on the back then ran out.

Unfortunate and mildly expensive learning experience, but learning has occurred none the less.

Ken, thank you for suggesting to try a different spray gun for my tiny compressor. 

Sorry for the long post but hopefully someone else can learn from my mistakes.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Flyin6 on July 01, 2019, 08:56:56 AM
After taking with a local-ish hot weather car repairman painter builder guy who supposedly has googly eyes for large unstable kankles, I went ahead and laid down the clear as thick as my gun would allow. Got two coats down going to let it cure and then do some smoothing (out of clear anyways).

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190630/0c13ce3a680cf4e10fdb0ca14ad75e22.jpg)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

why so mean to ken?
Ya, why so mean

Nate, do some moderatin' here

Say, you fire Shawn and ban him for awhile for startin' all this junk, then maybe ban T for awhile too.

I dunno, just do something! ;-))
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: JR on July 02, 2019, 01:32:44 AM
Tell you what, I have several of those HF guns and they work great. Got spares for just $10.
Title: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on July 02, 2019, 09:53:06 PM
So more sanding more painting.... probably not surprised I know. However, progress!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190703/45250a0b60487388dabc1bcf8a94917f.jpg)

Of course new gun, and then hi temp activator, bound to have runs. I was using mid temp up until today, because that’s what I had.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190703/324aa835d6a2f490972e0d84617310bd.jpg)

I will get this cleaned up tomorrow evening and then polished.

Then finally we can make some real progress of re assembling the interior with sound deaden install and ac box install. I wanted this bit of paint done before sound deaden to keep the mess off it. Glad i waited for all this to be finished, it was never not a messy day.

And just because...

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190703/61bd78f8d2073027f3ef94a796d1af27.jpg)

First in five years we’ve been successful in growing sunflowers. Such an easy plant supposedly! We’ve got a dozen or so this year.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on July 03, 2019, 11:41:12 PM
FINALLY, got this piece finished. It ain’t perfect, but I’ve never done all this paint work before. Probably could have got it even better, but this tiny little project has enough hours into it.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190704/97e094d53ad566b7b545f56dfd9b2686.jpg)

So in the theme of saving money I bought a polisher from harbor fraught, their variable speed 7” drill master. WHAT A PIECE OF JUNK!

It’s variable alright, so much so that it never holds constant speed and sometimes doesn’t even function. Thankfully I just picked it up a couple days ago, so it is going back.  DO NOT BUY DRILL MASTER POLISHER!

End rant.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: stlaser on July 04, 2019, 12:30:50 AM
Progress!  :likebutton:
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: KensAuto on July 04, 2019, 10:17:58 PM
Looks good from this angle!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on July 04, 2019, 10:24:32 PM
Looks good from this angle!

It could be much better, BUT, since it’s going to be hidden anyways. Boss and I are happy with it.

Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on July 04, 2019, 10:33:25 PM
Ok, so with so much right now needing completion the boss came out and installed the first step of sound deadening while I worked on other pieces. We used a product called fatmat, and there is a better method to sound deaden but the guy closed up shop so we went with this as the first step.

Beginning of the day.

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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190705/e999a959e0612bb6f535b69effaa47df.jpg)

Here she has over half done and working on the driver side.

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Laying down the final piece.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190705/2629afc7283dd902a1c72774df5f7964.jpg)

Finished product.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190705/277694c323377d43906ec2094f5a2723.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190705/f0696f60a7f8fc3e7fbe1f8af457b871.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190705/e89199a4667ffa30327d8f2b25906f9f.jpg)

While she was working on that, one of the items needing addressed was the gas pedal/cable connection hole. So I turned a round hole into a square hole.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190705/f86d3ab7988a32083bd10b9e889f459b.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190705/1f86539d0c8bfddb136a3ea0f718a59d.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190705/7cf66c3c0351e1ea69ee49f8d15921f6.jpg)
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: TexasRedNeck on July 04, 2019, 10:54:27 PM
Looking good Turner. Can’t wait to see it done


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Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Bigdave_185 on July 05, 2019, 01:10:53 AM
That aught to be a nice and quiet ride with all of that stuff


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Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: stlaser on July 05, 2019, 07:46:09 AM
That aught to be a nice and quiet ride with all of that stuff


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Negative ghost rider the 12v really isn’t known for its quiet.  :cheesy:
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Flyin6 on July 05, 2019, 08:54:16 AM
Concur ^^^

12 valves will figure out a way to wiggle loose a single nut that held tension on some bit of something that is way buried in the dash/chassis/cavity somewhere to create a "Space amplified" buxx that will require regular visits with a psychiatrist to cope with.

It's a steam engine! One with technology from the druids of stonehenge vintage.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: JR on July 05, 2019, 11:49:32 AM
Looks good from this angle!

Yep
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on July 05, 2019, 01:40:26 PM
When it’s all done inside, I think it’ll be a reasonbly “quiet” ride. Comfortable is what we’re going for and I believe we will achieve that.

Not sure what to compare it to, maybe a dodge 6.7 or better. I guess I need to go ride in some other diesels. I’ll get y’all a decibel reading when doors and windows are on.

It will be getting fancified on the interior one of these next few months, headliner, carpet and such. So we’re thinking that will help as well.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: cj7ox on July 08, 2019, 03:51:52 AM
I'm digging it!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: TexasRedNeck on July 08, 2019, 06:20:25 AM
I hear the new rams have double pane glass and that really helps with the noise ;-)

Looking good


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Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wilsonphil on July 08, 2019, 12:23:47 PM
That aught to be a nice and quiet ride with all of that stuff


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Negative ghost rider the 12v really isn’t known for its quiet.  :cheesy:

The VE equipped 12V are not too bad and I had my RC to down around 75-80db at 75mph, I was mostly dealing with road/wind noise from the wonderfully fitted doors and other Dodge Design issues.  I had a LOT of sound deading but will do things much differently now.  NONE of these early trucks had very little in the way of sound deader 

The P-Pump 12V valves are WAY MORE noise to deal with almost to the point of hearing damage with out ear plugs or noise canceling headsets.  I dont know if I would run a P-Pump in a first gen Dodge if I was going to drive it a lot or spend a lot of time on the freeway.   
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on July 09, 2019, 08:51:15 PM
Layers 2 & 3 to aid in vibration, resonance, and road noise blockage.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190710/ec94eed6bdaae3b1b06ad0c0170777d9.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190710/8002f9b20ed642e09e1c4bfe832289ce.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190710/ec81354f1bbe8416d58e530222f385da.jpg)


Then after a couple days of looking and deliberating, wife and I guy the dash layout figured and gauges on their way!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190710/993bdd8f70c10080e1ad7df39b498032.jpg)

And we had a really cool visitor! Yea, He’s venomous and most likely somewhere still on our property but gone enough to not bother anyone!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190710/d292284bad96144d9d05e001a60e68bb.jpg)
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: stlaser on July 09, 2019, 09:37:16 PM
 :likebutton:

Interesting pet you have!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Bigdave_185 on July 10, 2019, 12:06:26 AM
Why what smooth legs you got pal!!


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Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on July 10, 2019, 12:28:23 AM
Why what smooth legs you got pal!!


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Helps me run faster???
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: JR on July 10, 2019, 02:49:21 AM
Really Dave?
Why what smooth legs you got pal!!


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Helps me run faster???

From Dave?
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: cj7ox on July 10, 2019, 04:47:33 AM
Really Dave?
Why what smooth legs you got pal!!


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Helps me run faster???

From Dave?

LOL! Gotta watch out for those guys named Dave!  :facepalm:
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Bigdave_185 on July 10, 2019, 08:44:43 AM
Really Dave?
Why what smooth legs you got pal!!


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Helps me run faster???

From Dave?

LOL! Gotta watch out for those guys named Dave!  :facepalm:
At least we now have a direction to run,    As long as it’s away from Ken and H


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Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Flyin6 on July 10, 2019, 09:19:29 AM
^^^^^^^ Classic TDE^^^^^^^^^^^^^

(The DOT effect)
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Bigdave_185 on July 10, 2019, 09:28:55 AM
^^^^^^^ Classic TDE^^^^^^^^^^^^^

(The DOT effect)
Exact same type of post lol


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Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on July 14, 2019, 12:22:06 PM
Installed some parts :)

So I started the day with pulling the alternator thermostat and water pump.

Thermostat and water pump were simple enough.

Old and busted...

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190714/f7ad1cbbde98aac35959ccdeedbeb3f6.jpg)

Cleaned up this mess best I could

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190714/084906fa8988c7918a8ed89a255fc32d.jpg)

Then reinstalled the new, it’s a five bolt process because you need to pull the alternator. 

So the alternator is normally an externally regulated type. The internetiverse showed that there is a way to make this a internally regulated one wire type. So I attempted that...

First put the thing on your work bench..

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190714/e184938012d1782ac35922724f67ee4b.jpg)

Pull the rear dust cover by removing the four nuts, 3 small and the one for battery connect.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190714/fb4a3393e94eaa441af7771df27d9bce.jpg)

This is the regulator from transpo.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190714/923fabdd820ead4f7566eb58e6310ecd.jpg)

Install the positive and ground cables under the cover.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190714/7bd3f6815fb5ce3fe0a165ae3913c43c.jpg)

Route green and orange cables through a gap on the edge of the cover and re install dust cover.

Then bench test it if possible.

Which I did at napa several times with and without regulator and found alternator was toast and only producing 8-9 bolts some times then around 3 another time.

Purchased new unit and installed regulator again. Installed on truck and tested with no voltage output.... so not sure if I did something wrong or if the alternator needs an exciter wire or something else. Or if I ruined another alternator let me know if you have any ideas.

Then I crawled underneath, pulled trans pan and dip stick tube and replaced both.

The tube is made by Lokar and I am VERY happy with it’s a locking type. There is a “pan but” that holds the bottom of the tube in the transmission. Then the dip stick has a locking mechanism on the top, same as the actual tube to the stub shaft I’ll call it.


You can see all the pieces here.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190714/2639a09084cb97bc5f9b1b1c92092469.jpg)

Nice machined filter spacer.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190714/9649a373d7f34c4aebc8b8a7e531c5dc.jpg)

You can see the pan nut in the corner. Which secured the bottom section of tube into the transmission.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190714/ac5f9da3dde89d7b7e245b8e93756541.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190714/eac8a3bfac3b95b7ee6775348e1dbb1f.jpg)

Here you can see the tube connected to the bottom section in the trans.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190714/bbff35776fc0d3eb6800e8fa385b98c6.jpg)

The top will be mounted to the firewall.  It
Seems like a very well thought out dipstick tube combo.

Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: KensAuto on July 14, 2019, 01:27:02 PM
Looks good Turner..liking the dipstick,  but on the gauges, wouldn't it be easier to toss the cluster-@#$% in that trash can? (See what I did there)

I've only seen one of those monsters in the wild.  Pretty cool
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on July 15, 2019, 02:20:01 AM
Ok, got the floor and firewall officially done for what I will be doing for sound improvement/noise reduction.  The doors will be addressed when they are installed.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190715/197534816693557f065fe353a5156ded.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190715/f583a21b63f84997c55cf2a110ef4199.jpg)

And we got the dash installed, which will be permanentized tomorrow.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190715/449d4d42c8e1e3fd265ea1b2268eeb4e.jpg)

On all of the edges of the dash I installed butyl rope so there is no metal on metal contact, in hopes to improve sound quality and noise reduction.

This is the rope I used, it’s a product from a sound shop in Tucson called second skin. They’re on the webz as well. Amazon has the best prices for this particular product.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190715/a43c7352fac2a8e4b878991abbcedced.jpg)


You can see the black line across the window sill, that is the butyl rope installed. Which I then covered with the dash!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190715/0ebe647af990c2df460d33e43ccf5ecc.jpg)

Tomorrow is a big day, as some of the final pieces are supposed to show up. The last item that will need to be purchased is a rear window of some kind. Which I am waiting to hear from LMC on, as they offer a piece of glass that is supposed to work from 72-93.

I called and talked to them about this as I have in my position a 74 and a 92 rear window, and they are significantly different. But I need the cab water proof so I’m looking for glass.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on July 15, 2019, 02:10:01 PM
Glass 1 of 2.... DONE!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190715/d8fb16d249ab8c9ef3da58a6fbe23533.jpg)
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on July 15, 2019, 02:46:01 PM
More goodies!!!! Still have two more gauges to come but who knows when they’ll show up.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190715/deb101d1183c733dbe00d72e4c18b5dd.jpg)
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on July 18, 2019, 04:52:51 PM
Last of the big pieces we need to get this thing hwy worthy.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190718/9ada3c0c4ec04ba09d209959dab93118.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190718/3fcf961c8913c4aee659bcf610f9303d.jpg)

Truck is scheduled for rear glass and tint on July 31 in Tucson...

That means we have to have it highway capable by 0800 on July 31.

We’ve got a good friend coming out on Monday to help us finish up the loose ends.

We’ve spent this week thinning, sorting, and packing for our upcoming move.

Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: TexasRedNeck on July 18, 2019, 08:55:45 PM
I really like those gauges. Old school


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Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: cj7ox on July 20, 2019, 01:47:58 AM
Love those gauges!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on July 20, 2019, 10:56:13 PM
Slow, but a little more progress. We spent this week in heavy household thinning operations, made great progress there!

AC is bolted in and the bulkhead fittings have been loosely installed. We need a couple more line ends to finish up the heat and AC plumbing.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190721/02d50e684e06c5b1dc49b785f8aaa49e.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190721/bb39af616e18376c252beda30b5a1f65.jpg)
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on July 21, 2019, 10:44:09 PM
I need to cut a piece of stainless to cover and hold it all but we got the gauge cluster more ready for install.

Before

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190722/ae005e1f68b874010b3b349b4d52563a.jpg)

After

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190722/456bee4ea25b01f920312d9542d7ed57.jpg)

Roughtimation of what it will look like.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190722/37716c41c069cc6a18667b136c37393f.jpg)

We’re happy!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Flyin6 on July 22, 2019, 10:37:39 AM
Nice!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on July 25, 2019, 10:05:08 PM
Look at this piece of art work!!!! I can take no credit on this, but it is amazing!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190726/4538d7e66b79df636169fbe533a79a60.jpg)

More goodness!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190726/5949e0dcc5be5ba02a30ad72c672603d.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190726/07d42cae18be4c2159bfa8a22acb2cf1.jpg)
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: stlaser on July 25, 2019, 10:19:19 PM
 :likebutton:
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: JR on July 26, 2019, 01:45:42 AM
Sweet,,,,,
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: TexasRedNeck on July 26, 2019, 08:48:30 AM
Wow that dash is really nice. Starting to look like a truck!


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Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: cj7ox on July 27, 2019, 02:26:51 AM
Wow that dash is really nice. Starting to look like a truck!


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x2!  :beercheers:
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on July 28, 2019, 01:14:16 AM
Made some significant progress today. Truck is probably about 60% wired. AC/heat is plumbed. Had some of it done yesterday, it turned over under key for the first time since I removed the engine.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190728/7d65112a1bd6be95a38b75ac801ed3ae.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190728/3a6e48f3d60b6d3710f1f8bc949bca5f.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190728/09b3e5e12b9ea88a3f887be2830414d1.jpg)

I could not have gotten to where it is without the help that came in on Tuesday. Got a few more days before he has to go home.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: JR on July 28, 2019, 02:35:20 PM
I have a cover for that motor if you want it. The cummins/dodge one, won't fly on my chevy.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on July 28, 2019, 03:21:57 PM
I have a cover for that motor if you want it. The cummins/dodge one, won't fly on my chevy.

JR, we appreciate the offer but we too have one.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on July 28, 2019, 07:50:04 PM
And with it all plugged in...

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190728/c2f3fff99c9ab523a96a983259d09e41.jpg)

Need to take it to town and have the AC charged, that vintage air sure moves air! However I don’t need hot air being blown around in the truck.

Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: JR on July 28, 2019, 08:46:08 PM
Nice, put allen heads back in.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: stlaser on July 28, 2019, 11:12:15 PM
Clean looking dash
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wilsonphil on July 28, 2019, 11:13:57 PM
I have a cover for that motor if you want it. The cummins/dodge one, won't fly on my chevy.

Are you serious about getting rid of it?
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wilsonphil on July 28, 2019, 11:15:43 PM
And with it all plugged in...

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190728/c2f3fff99c9ab523a96a983259d09e41.jpg)

Need to take it to town and have the AC charged, that vintage air sure moves air! However I don’t need hot air being blown around in the truck.

What dose the ducting look like for the vintage air?
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: JR on July 28, 2019, 11:30:48 PM
I have a cover for that motor if you want it. The cummins/dodge one, won't fly on my chevy.

Are you serious about getting rid of it?

yes
Title: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on July 28, 2019, 11:52:45 PM
And with it all plugged in...

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190728/c2f3fff99c9ab523a96a983259d09e41.jpg)

Need to take it to town and have the AC charged, that vintage air sure moves air! However I don’t need hot air being blown around in the truck.

What dose the ducting look like for the vintage air?

It’s like the accordion style soft duct with a spring inside. And black. With your knowledge and tools, you could probably fab up some smooth pipe type.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: KensAuto on July 29, 2019, 12:12:01 AM
Looks nice Turner.

.. installed a vintage air in a'59 Vette a few years back. I came up with curse words that would make the devil blush.
Worked excellent tho.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wilsonphil on July 29, 2019, 12:36:31 AM
I have a cover for that motor if you want it. The cummins/dodge one, won't fly on my chevy.

Are you serious about getting rid of it?

yes

sent you a PM
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on August 01, 2019, 11:55:26 PM
So, many thanks to one of our own here, swbhobie16, he came out for a week to help me get this truck on the road. And boy did he ever help!!!! We went from a truck that I started by touching a cable to the positive terminal to a keyed ignition with gauges lights ac plumbed heat working, just overall much farther than i could have accomplished by myself in a week..

So from my family and I, we appreciate your help it couldn’t have come at a better time. If anyone needs consulting, you could probably get him to travel.

So today was the first day since I bought the 74 in 2015 that I put fuel of any kind in it....

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190802/667171bee5715700d9dfd52a57f25080.jpg)

And what the back of our truck currently looks like.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190802/df284502aed3ab36317842e88392cbf4.jpg)

Thanks to all for the help you have provided. More updates to follow in coming days.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: stlaser on August 02, 2019, 12:12:17 AM
 :likebutton: very nice
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: cj7ox on August 02, 2019, 12:19:27 AM
Nice progress! That's going to be a nice ride when complete! Color me jealous!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: JR on August 02, 2019, 01:01:11 AM
Sweet and help is also good.

Forgot to check, but how about just shipping is?
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Flyin6 on August 02, 2019, 08:19:54 AM
Wonderful!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on August 02, 2019, 01:41:16 PM
Sweet and help is also good.

Forgot to check, but how about just shipping is?

Not sure I follow JR, ship what?
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on August 02, 2019, 01:44:38 PM
So originally I had an appointment on the 31 of July in Tucson, to get a rear window installed. Could have drove it up then, but wanted to attend to a few other items before doing so.

That being said I rescheduled for today 2 August...

Left the house at 0830, and with only a few hiccups (blown IC boot) we made it only a little late to the appointment. So now I wait to get the last piece of glass installed, then hopefully we can take it into Sierra vista and get the AC charged, cause it’s hot!

Pre rear glass after a my road made a mess of the back.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190802/0ef091eaab6716c0367e91effc613288.jpg)
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: JR on August 02, 2019, 02:24:13 PM
Sweet and help is also good.

Forgot to check, but how about just shipping is?


Not sure I follow JR, ship what?

Oops, other member
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wilsonphil on August 07, 2019, 03:55:20 PM
JR did you get my PM or are you just avoiding me?????  Im hurt if you are!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on August 14, 2019, 10:18:43 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190815/dfb77fd4237f88ed83a37ca0724b6722.jpg)

No real update other than we’re just working out the bugs. Need to properly wire a switch for over drive, or buy the HGM computer.

Got the dash ready for radio install.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190815/49a8a00e1bb4f89fdbe8959b974aace9.jpg)

Made a panel to hold the vintage air thermostat.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190815/0ff8e6c113c50a8b632ad43240ce1166.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190815/b1fbccc2d0cf651bc2e1e544213b62fe.jpg)

Still looking for a bed, found a couple usable at junkyard but haven’t had the cash to purchase one yet. We’re getting there though.

Current plan is to take this truck and the fam from here to Arkansas down to Fort Lauderdale Florida and back next month. Move stuff for mother in-law, sadly re home our pups, possibly pickup some stuff and maybe deliver some more stuff along the way.

Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: JR on August 14, 2019, 10:28:28 PM
JR did you get my PM or are you just avoiding me?????  Im hurt if you are!

I just totally got to busy.!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 15, 2019, 06:14:59 AM
its getting there, Turner!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on August 22, 2019, 08:52:07 PM
Second trip to Tucson resulted in a win.... albeit an painfully slow one because the first piece of glass they tried today (second overall) was cut too small. So three hours later we had this!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190823/24b4819fdba2cf8049f701ecb38022b7.jpg)

AC is charged and blows cold, but the compressor is doing this weird on/off cycling thing. Going to check the ground again. Then try something else if it doesn’t stop.

Hydro boost problem is still very present, or what we think is a hydro boost problem.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: JR on August 22, 2019, 08:55:38 PM
Nice! Was just out there working on the side glass of the retired sub.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 22, 2019, 09:08:05 PM
That’s an interesting placement of the fuel filler....


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Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on August 22, 2019, 11:08:43 PM
That’s an interesting placement of the fuel filler....


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Was the closest hole to bolt it to.... it just so happened to turn it vertical. Breather doesn’t work worth a darn though so you have to pull it out of the top of the tank when filling it.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on August 26, 2019, 01:34:18 PM
Too soon?

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190826/b70b599438f83bbec95b8f7bfcf3c8c7.jpg)

She helped install it!! Now just need to wire in the plug.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: JR on August 26, 2019, 01:53:51 PM
That is a monster but I think it needs cross bracing and a plate under those bolts. ( I like overkill)

Who's the mechanic, wife?
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wilsonphil on August 26, 2019, 03:15:19 PM
fix the fuel tank
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on August 26, 2019, 03:27:09 PM
fix the fuel tank

Which part? I mean it serves its purpose at current. Of course whenever we get a bed it’ll be proper.

JR, yes, wife is my help. Outside of her only ever had one other person work on it with me, swbhobie.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wilsonphil on August 26, 2019, 09:47:34 PM
Just messing with you. 

Here in Commie land you would get stopped by California's finest every half mile, they would try which way to take your truck UNLESS you in the country illegally then they wont do anything.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on August 26, 2019, 11:29:05 PM
Just messing with you. 

Here in Commie land you would get stopped by California's finest every half mile, they would try which way to take your truck UNLESS you in the country illegally then they wont do anything.

Noted put Sonora plates on before going into commifornia. Our shipping port is San Diego, so the truck has to go there.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on August 26, 2019, 11:30:29 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190827/c71e5cd03882928afece292e26e953c2.jpg)

Put some more light on!!! These have DRL and blinkers. Much brighter than the old ones that were in there too!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: JR on August 26, 2019, 11:37:56 PM
No, they will take your vehicle in a second! About one of the few tools we have legally.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on August 27, 2019, 12:30:40 AM
No, they will take your vehicle in a second! About one of the few tools we have legally.

Because it doesn’t have a bed? Or?
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Nate on August 27, 2019, 12:51:18 AM
Too soon?

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190826/b70b599438f83bbec95b8f7bfcf3c8c7.jpg)

She helped install it!! Now just need to wire in the plug.

Those nails are out of regulation!.....i can see them from here!

D.S. better toe the line......












Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Nate on August 27, 2019, 12:51:40 AM
























HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on August 31, 2019, 02:29:16 PM
You know the whole thing, work begat work.... well....

We needed this

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190831/27ef7e88967c7aeaa0069088313b6c90.jpg)

To move this

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190831/57d1ca9eb405047a74cb210b8b6ae688.jpg)

And we’re moving the Connex box down the road next Sunday as well, so we need goose for that.

Also had a body man align the doors. Put in new drag link. Taking it in to town this evening to try and figure out AC compressor issue.

Got a full set of seat belts on the way, 4 shoulder belts and two lap belts. Getting down to the wire, we’re on the road with this thing on the 13..... AR, GA, FL, TX, a giant circle.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Atkinsmatt on August 31, 2019, 06:17:03 PM
Where in GA. When
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on August 31, 2019, 07:31:21 PM
Where in GA. When

Woodstock. In on the afternoon of 16 out morning 18.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on September 01, 2019, 01:49:46 AM
More lights!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190901/e653afefd0cb39ec541bd6cc8f7e3a80.jpg)

Or maybe just dash indicators.... that’s a light right? Can’t upload the video but they all work!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: rpar86 on September 01, 2019, 02:12:23 AM
If you upload the vid to YouTube you can make it private so it’s only accessible from the link you share/post here.


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Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wilsonphil on September 01, 2019, 06:05:44 AM
You braver man than I am driving it across the USA with very little shakedown.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 01, 2019, 08:12:42 AM
Yeah but he only needs a hammer and a flat blades screw driver to fix it if something goes wrong


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Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: JR on September 01, 2019, 09:52:33 AM
Or Norm,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on September 01, 2019, 11:47:54 AM
You braver man than I am driving it across the USA with very little shakedown.

It’ll be ok. By the time we leave I’ll 500 miles or better on it.

And we don’t really have any other option. 3 humans, 250lbs of dog, gear for the trip, and a reasonable load of stuff to talk to in-laws house in Orlando.

The humans and dogs basically put the tacoMa beyond max space available. Let alone all the other stuff. The items to go to in-laws house won’t fit in Ramcharger. So it’s either use what we built, or rent something for 17 days, I’d say if money wasn’t really an issue yea renting would be better. But I guess why build something if you can’t use it?

If I can squeeze the time, maybe I’ll make a shakedown run in your direction?
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on September 01, 2019, 12:00:32 PM
If you upload the vid to YouTube you can make it private so it’s only accessible from the link you share/post here.


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Yea Nate suggested this too.... I tried, and failed.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on September 02, 2019, 01:10:14 AM
Several little things today, but only one pic.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190902/670c4e5fb302c5390439632ca5c4e09b.jpg)

Installed the four vent louvres and ducting. Now to get someone to figure out the compressor issue.

Got the wipers working. Put knobs on thermostat, wired trailer plug, working on trailer brake controller.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Dfarm01 on September 03, 2019, 11:02:35 PM
Maybe I missed it but, where is your fuse panel?  Mine is not in good shape and will need to be replaced sooner than later.
Title: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on September 04, 2019, 12:25:34 AM
Maybe I missed it but, where is your fuse panel?  Mine is not in good shape and will need to be replaced sooner than later.


To answer your question, it is on the drivers fender. The black box.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190904/e48e1cc3b1b3288d52bcbf29cc34253b.jpg)

To expand, we re wired the entire truck. Started with an American autowire extreme duty kit. swbhobie, did the major stuff and I have been expanding on it since he got it initially wired.  I’m glad i chose to just rewire from scratch rather than try to use the two harness and piece it together. It went together well, and looks good.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Dfarm01 on September 04, 2019, 12:57:56 AM
I'll have to look into it. That looks way better than the factory stuff. Especially after 40 years of who knows who doing who knows what with the wiring. Lol
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on September 05, 2019, 08:10:31 PM
Had to go the wrong direction today....

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190906/8d62f3ac1ae1e3092f18d6c027e9e539.jpg)

We believe our torque converter was rebuilt improperly, so I have to take it to Hughes in Phoenix.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wilsonphil on September 05, 2019, 09:06:45 PM
And you want to still drive accross the country!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on September 05, 2019, 09:19:06 PM
And you want to still drive accross the country!

Sure trying to! But, if we can’t in the Dodge we put everybody in the TacoMa to see if we all fit, will be uncomfortable to Arkansas, but we’ll manage if we have to.

Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 05, 2019, 10:13:05 PM
Bummer Turner.  What were the symptoms?


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Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on September 05, 2019, 10:43:36 PM
Bummer Turner.  What were the symptoms?


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Charles, it was stalling out at stop lights, stop signs, general stopping in drive, and in reverse. At first it seemed exacerbated by braking, but then more driving showed it only died at full stop.

Been happening since we started driving it beginning of August, well really since we put it back together for pulling in and out of garage.

Fast forward to present chaos, and I called Hughes, they suggested that I test if it happens with out the power steering pump connected(hydra boost). So I removed it, still died in reverse and drive, this is of course with out the serpentine belt on as well.

Took it one step further and removed vac pump so there was no draw on the engine other than the transmission.... still died in reverse and park. So Hughes said we can’t diagnose it over the phone, do you want us to send you an RCA label? Then I asked if I could just bring it in and have it done by days end, which is what we’re doing!

So 0400 son and I are heading up to Phoenix. Hopefully back at a reasonable enough hour to reinstall it all.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: JR on September 05, 2019, 11:11:55 PM
Bad luck but sounds like they are working worth you.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on September 09, 2019, 09:55:03 PM
Ok, so we went to Phoenix on Friday, but did not get the privilege of coming home with a usable converter.

We did come home armed with some info, a new transmission pump and housing.

There is a bushing that is inside the transmission pump that died, and cause the torque converter hub to wear terribly. It caused fluid to escape and is believed to be the cause of the engine drag.

Here is the wear on the hub. This was from about 450 miles.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190910/33bcef612fed088dbbaf738bfa70d29c.jpg)

Nothing wrong with the innards of the converter. So they’re putting a new hub on and mailing it back.

Instead of trying to replace a bushing in the pump I just bought a whole new assembly.

Old pump and housing.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190910/6bc9ff069670622e61b81deae8bc9d5f.jpg)

Front of trans without pump.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190910/0be37cd77b743ba24daf24a830beca8d.jpg)

New pump installed. Pretty simple but still made me nervous as I didn’t know what to expect.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190910/da62d0d498fcf3ac7978d25225488f3c.jpg)

Also installed a bigger air mover in hopes to keep EGTs down.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190910/3790478ac4b99e2ccceb8353574193e8.jpg)

It has a 4” v band exhaust turbine, so this is required.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190910/2d5a116a36f72beda411207ed220554d.jpg)

New 4” next to old 3”
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: JR on September 09, 2019, 11:41:40 PM
Bigger turbo, cool. Hope the tranny works.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: stlaser on September 10, 2019, 12:41:15 AM
Progress, how’s the timeline looking to hit the road? Still on track?
Title: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on September 10, 2019, 12:57:17 AM
Progress, how’s the timeline looking to hit the road? Still on track?

If torque converter shows up tomorrow or Wednesday we will be taking this truck. Otherwise we’re just going to jam it all into the tiny little tacoMa.

Prayers welcome for everything that is currently on our plate to go smoothly.  Moving after living in a place for 5 years is no fun. Throw in a 6k mile trip really turns up the fun-o-meter...
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: stlaser on September 10, 2019, 12:58:50 AM
Bummer, poor little Tacoma that could.....
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on September 10, 2019, 01:01:18 AM
Bummer, poor little Tacoma that could.....

I’ve seen them do more, than we’re asking, but it’s more a space thing. God is good and we will be just fine. December can’t come soon enough!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 10, 2019, 04:02:47 AM
Sounds like you are getting it shook down Turner.  I bet you get it together in time.  But if not, I think that Taco can tow a space shuttle....


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Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Nate on September 10, 2019, 08:24:58 AM
I remember that commercial...lol  I think it was a tundra that they did it with?
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on September 10, 2019, 01:23:21 PM
Charles,

What Nate said ^^^ I believe it was the tundra. Either way we’re good, and we’ll have the house on the market on Thursday.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: rpar86 on September 10, 2019, 02:35:21 PM
I think Charles was trying to make a funny, because the only thing more ridiculous than a Tundra towing a space shuttle is a Taco towing the shuttle ;-P


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Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 10, 2019, 03:45:18 PM
It was the tundra but I bet the little taco could too


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Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Flyin6 on September 10, 2019, 07:38:20 PM
Man, you are running things close. Need to hold this family up in prayer for the trip and really, the whole move.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on September 11, 2019, 12:23:24 AM
Man, you are running things close. Need to hold this family up in prayer for the trip and really, the whole move.

Prayer is greatly appreciated, things are closer than we ever planned them to be. Tomorrow has countless moving pieces, and the photography of the house in the mix, so it can go live on the market on Thursday.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: stlaser on September 11, 2019, 08:26:43 AM
Man, you are running things close. Need to hold this family up in prayer for the trip and really, the whole move.

Prayer is greatly appreciated, things are closer than we ever planned them to be. Tomorrow has countless moving pieces, and the photography of the house in the mix, so it can go live on the market on Thursday.

Prayers for Turner!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: EL TATE on September 11, 2019, 10:51:24 AM
Indeed sir!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on September 11, 2019, 08:41:03 PM
What a day.... but no torque converter. Truck will remain inop until October.

Everything else got completed.. crazy day!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: JR on September 11, 2019, 10:51:40 PM
Taco time!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Flyin6 on September 12, 2019, 11:01:00 AM
Ah, man...Bummer

But we all prayed for you

Perhaps the Tacoma is the best option as in maybe the big truck could have given you issues.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on September 14, 2019, 02:15:32 PM
Ah, man...Bummer

But we all prayed for you

Perhaps the Tacoma is the best option as in maybe the big truck could have given you issues.

This is what I believe, it was probably a God send that the big truck couldn’t be taken. Even if it made more sense, it may not have been ready for 6k miles and could have had big issues while on the road. I’ll deal with the truck when we return.

The tacoMa made the trip to Arkansas ok. Was still a long trip.

Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: EL TATE on September 16, 2019, 10:12:02 AM
Glad you made it safe
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Flyin6 on September 16, 2019, 10:17:48 AM
God has you and your family

Enjoy your time while being "close" together

;-))
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on November 13, 2019, 05:44:00 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191113/357e877be6d4497233d0a9fad030013a.jpg)
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: JR on November 13, 2019, 06:57:20 PM
Ooh, a whole truck! Bigger pic,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Flyin6 on November 13, 2019, 09:18:37 PM
Now that is looking like something
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on November 15, 2019, 12:43:55 AM
Ok, I need to update this. Lets start by saying shake down run to Albuquerque went well. 15.5 hours with stopping for gas only, and the 1 hour to load the truck that had our short bed. Injectors and or Injection pump are weak, but thats ok it can be solved. We averaged just under 10mpg over the whole trip pulling a flat bed trailer empty the first half then with the 76 W100 the second half.

In September just before our eastern cross country trip I was trying to solve the stalling issue at stop lights and stop signs. After much deliberation with several folks, one of which is a Goerend transmission specialist and another is a cummins guru out of british columbia we solved it....i think.

First, the goerend billet flex plate that I purchased which is sold for the 47rh which has a lock up torque converter WILL NOT work on the 46rh. Sure the bolt pattern is the same, and it will bolt up to the torque converter but it leaves an unwanted gap between plate and torque converter hub. I emphasize it will not work because there isn't much information on this topic on the interwebs.

Second, our impeller hub on the torque converter was spinning at a slight angle, which caused it to make contact with the sleeve inside the pump. So thankfully Hughes, the folks I had rebuild our torque converter put on a new hub at no cost. Then they pointed me in the direction of where to find a new transmission pump and pump housing. Which I did and then installed and uninstalled several times, due to unforeseen breakages. After the fourth or fifth time of trying to get everything lined up and installed properly we finally had success.

After replacing the transmission pump we re-assembled all of the drive train without much fuss. Upon completion of this task we put the truck back into service, only to find that it was still stalling out at stop lights or any stop for that matter when in drive or reverse. It was at this point the canadian suggested a few items, one install the HVLP pump I had in a box, two set the rpms to 775 while truck is in drive with foot on brake and AC is on. I did these two items and the truck now will idle in drive at a stop light.

Then with some driving to and fro, we found the truck would never break 1100 degrees at WOT, no matter how long I kept it wide open, even when pulling hills. It was this that pointed us to the fact we need new injectors and or injection pump. With this information…. We did nothing. Just drove it. Then I turned up the fuel screw one full turn which helped, but still not proper and barely breaking 1100degrees.

Then this past monday (veterans day) we made the trip to Albuquerque to pick up the fourth parts truck, which is what provided the bed. The bed has been pulled, and installed, and then uninstalled for it to be serviced and brought into better condition.

Overall, the truck runs, does what is asked of it and without to much complaining. I’ve blown a couple boots on the IC but thats about it. Transmission runs no hotter than 145 even while pulling. It probably would get hot if pulling a big hill with a load. The AC has not been fully discombobulated but I know a guy who knows how to solve it, just a matter of getting the truck into his shop.

Sorry for the novel, I’ll post up some corresponding pics soon, they are all on the phone not the pc. To date, I believe we have put on approximately 1500 miles.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: TexasRedNeck on November 15, 2019, 06:28:13 AM
Oh yeah! Lots of progress!


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Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on November 15, 2019, 10:14:36 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191115/930034aabd807ef98c3474ed4b62617a.jpg)

Here is the impeller hub that was making contact with the bushing inside the pump. That has conflicting reasons for happening, but I think by me bolting it to the Goerend billet plate it may have happened.

Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: EL TATE on November 15, 2019, 10:50:11 AM
Certain aftermarket fasteners that were engineered for improving stock components have a lot of trouble with aftermarket components, I have found. just ask Phil of SpaceX fame how well his Yukon hubs and STAGE8 spindle nut kit got along  :rolleyes: Glad you were able to trouble shoot this thing relatively quickly and not to the tune of $$$$$.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: JR on November 15, 2019, 11:17:03 AM
All the little things (well a couple big things too) which are normal in a buildup.

Sounds like you are on the right tract though, bigger pic of the truck!


Thx for reminding me about the stage8 stuff, 2 boxes to go back on fleebay,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on November 18, 2019, 08:00:03 PM
Folks, if anybody is interested in owning this please contact me.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Flyin6 on November 18, 2019, 08:42:29 PM
Folks, if anybody is interested in owning this please contact me.
Owning what??
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on November 18, 2019, 09:55:23 PM
Folks, if anybody is interested in owning this please contact me.
Owning what??

 The truck! It needs a new home.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Flyin6 on November 18, 2019, 10:01:08 PM
WHAT???

You built this thing for yourself...for your family

You love these old classics

Why sell it?

Why now? Won't fit the family Hawaii plan?

Having a difficult time processing all this
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: stlaser on November 18, 2019, 10:04:53 PM
Coming from the guy who cut his up?  :rolleyes:  :tongue:
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on November 18, 2019, 10:15:48 PM
WHAT???

You built this thing for yourself...for your family

You love these old classics

Why sell it?

Why now? Won't fit the family Hawaii plan?

Having a difficult time processing all this

You are correct, we do love them. But our son cannot stand it, and hates getting into it each time we go to town. And shipping it to Hawaii is of course more than expected by twice and change.
Title: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on December 08, 2019, 08:16:24 PM
Yea sure, it would be helpful if this thing sold, but in the mean time I am going to continue forward progress. On Friday I went and saw a friend to have him install the injectors since all of my tools are in my tool box which is inside another box inside a shipping container awaiting delivery to our new location.


(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191209/a176206a7cc9dad69a2a88245bea19b4.jpg)

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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191209/b805858ecf28865f3c0a5a54c9fa8e05.jpg)

They look nasty but I don’t really know how bad they are since I haven’t yet sent them
Off for rebuild/testing.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191209/06760a02356d1ddde81ef4e041810b11.jpg)

I’m glad I had him install the injectors because he went above and beyond to make sure things were clean and proper. Where as had I done it, it would have been and out and in job with minimal cleaning.

The new injectors are an improvement but we’re also pretty certain the injection pump needs to be replaced.

None the less my wife and I have been continuing forward progress of completing things. If we end up shipping it, which is what it looks like is going to happen, we want it with to ship with everything in it, functioning or not. So we plug along. We officially move on the 18th so time is VERY limited.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on December 10, 2019, 07:33:35 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191211/d06bf1ae70c696266ab59f9013d3182c.jpg)

Made it some more primer grey.

Got the horn button working, windshield washer pump wired up, more sound deadening in the doors, e-brake started but had to get the shorter cable coming.

Looking to get the windows tinted before we go, stopping by a reputable shop tomorrow.

Radiator has a leak so we ordered a mishimoto it’ll be here and in tomorrow.

Cruise control and radio are last projects. We are putting different 250 leaf springs on the back on Sunday. In hopes to lessen the rake and soften the ride a smidge. I think the springs on it now are actually 1 ton springs.

Not sure what else we need to accomplish, but it’s basically a fully serviceable truck now. Change the oil and rotate the tires and on a boat it goes.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: TexasRedNeck on December 10, 2019, 08:24:11 PM
You’ll be glad you kept it Turner. That’s a labor of love


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Title: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on December 11, 2019, 07:25:56 PM
No cruise control, but we got more noise, charging capabilities and a backup camera!

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Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: Flyin6 on December 11, 2019, 07:33:47 PM
Modern tech in sharp contrast to the almost purely mechanical beast it is at its heart
Title: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on December 13, 2019, 07:45:21 PM
Little more progress today,

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The other we had in there was leaking bad enough to puddle every time I parked for more than 30 minutes.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: JR on December 13, 2019, 09:16:58 PM
Looks good and it runs!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: stlaser on December 13, 2019, 09:27:28 PM
What a beast!
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: KensAuto on December 13, 2019, 10:21:31 PM
Looks better than the one I saw! A bunch shinier.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on December 13, 2019, 11:04:29 PM
Looks better than the one I saw! A bunch shinier.

And less drippy!

I only went with a mishimoto because I could get it the fastest, and is was not that much more expensive than a spectrum from rock auto, and cheaper than what I could get through Napa.
Title: Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
Post by: wyorunner on May 28, 2020, 12:07:21 AM
So this picture will mean nothing to most, but this is our current “garage”

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Went back to AZ to sort some things and grabbed the truck while there. Did some small work on it, left AZ with a super leaky injection pump, arrived in LA with a non leaking injection pump. Dropped it off with the boat company and they brought it down. We went down town first thing this morning to pick it up! Brought it home then went to the beach.

Will be ordering an injection pump soon. And selling the tacoMa in a timely fashion as well! Two vehicles down here is simply unnecessary, wife and I can do all tasks aside from going to the ocean with boards, on a bike.
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