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Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
« Reply #100 on: October 13, 2017, 05:37:21 PM »
Next I added the first of several off road lights. These are driving LED lights. LED does not do long range very well, but driving and flood they excel at
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« Reply #101 on: October 13, 2017, 05:40:19 PM »
These are triggered by illumination of the high beams through a relay carrying their own 40A circuit wired directly to the battery

That thing sits so low from the factory, that I think I'll see if I can get a 2017 Z06 front splitter to bolt up. Might as well build on the road hugging formula theme that Jeep is using here!
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« Reply #102 on: October 13, 2017, 05:42:31 PM »
Being all road-hog filthy from rollin' in the dirt, I thought it was a good time to pull out the hose and do something useful. So I challenged the big pre-ranger to wash the dog while I squirted him. One has to accomplish his mission without distraction and under duress if he is a Ranger...Call it training! ;-))
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« Reply #103 on: October 13, 2017, 06:22:55 PM »
So I had to get the rotary file out and elongate the holes to get the hoop to bolt up. That is really poor for a brand new part. THis is nothing more than more chinese junk!

Didn't I mention something along those lines Tate?
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« Reply #104 on: October 13, 2017, 07:22:56 PM »
I need a Canadian to give me a spell check on the "eh" please...
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« Reply #105 on: October 16, 2017, 11:09:20 AM »
So I had to get the rotary file out and elongate the holes to get the hoop to bolt up. That is really poor for a brand new part. THis is nothing more than more chinese junk!

Didn't I mention something along those lines Tate?

I do seem to recall a previous mention there...
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Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
« Reply #106 on: December 14, 2017, 10:20:53 PM »
Christmas for the GJ

Mark over at National Tire and wheel who I now have on speed-dial has set me up with tires and wheels for the Girly Jeep.

These are Christmas presents for the Wife, since she needs tires, and wanted the GJ to be a bit more manley,. I wanted a good highway ride since 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999%

of her miles are on the road, although I recorded 26" of difficult off road driving on our lawn acounting for the

0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 difference.

I just left it up to Mark who decided on 285/70R-17 tires which are either 11.00 or 11.50 Nitto terra grapplers mounted on Fuel D552 wheels. He also shipped me the appropriate Rough Country 2.5" lift kit

Note that the stock pic is a GJ of the exact same color as the GJ we keep hidden in her garage
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« Reply #107 on: December 14, 2017, 10:50:17 PM »
Looks good, now get to it!
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« Reply #108 on: December 15, 2017, 10:43:28 AM »
That picture color and wheel combo looks really good


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« Reply #109 on: December 15, 2017, 01:19:03 PM »
Assuming you didn’t get front lower control arms with that kit. You may want to get them on order.....
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« Reply #110 on: December 15, 2017, 06:49:34 PM »
That picture color and wheel combo looks really good


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Wait till you see hers with those wheels...should be a spittin' image
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« Reply #111 on: December 18, 2017, 10:19:46 AM »
What did those lights cost Don?

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« Reply #112 on: December 18, 2017, 12:37:29 PM »
What did those lights cost Don?

Cheap Norm, wanna say $50ish

Surprisingly, they work well...Have them wired to activate when she flips on the high beams
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« Reply #113 on: December 25, 2017, 12:13:31 PM »
OK, thanks to Mark over at National Tire and Wheel, the GJ is about to get new shoes and a face lift (Get it, "Face-LIFT?")

Family and calories all day today, but tomorrow the surgery begins!
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« Reply #114 on: December 25, 2017, 12:56:49 PM »
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« Reply #115 on: December 25, 2017, 05:14:59 PM »
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« Reply #116 on: December 26, 2017, 09:30:24 PM »
It’s tomorrow... ... ...


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« Reply #117 on: December 26, 2017, 10:22:42 PM »
So I’m thinking here.......

Is it possible he pulled the GJ into the bay where SQ D sat for so long then got distracted (one of cmax’s truck tires were probably too close to a precarious mulch bed) and when he turned back around he forgot what he was actually going to do today?  :popcorn:
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« Reply #118 on: December 26, 2017, 10:40:33 PM »
Waiting for the dust to settle,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, :facepalm:
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« Reply #119 on: December 27, 2017, 09:28:53 AM »
well looking at one of those tire pics, there seems to be some red gunk like candy on the side wall.  also those tires are inside of the house and not the garage.........so I am sure HH6 has was/is not happy........stickpoke
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« Reply #120 on: December 27, 2017, 12:34:58 PM »
OK, here's what's up

The lift is about 50% installed. Nothing to get excited about, just a simple bracket lift which does not impress me much at all (Like everything else about these GJ's)

So obviously my Frau has to take the truck to work.

That was fine until it broke down!

Will barely run, and only for 30 seconds or so

DTC:
P1082 (Has something to do with fuel)
P128E which I think has something to do with low fuel rail fuel pressure
P2510 No clue yet

So it's 10F outside. I am wondering if I have some issue that is low temp related, as in ice in the fuel line.

I noticed that when I get the thing started and floor it in neutral it will only rev to maybe 2200-3000 RPM. THen after sitting for five minutes I can start if and rev it to 4500ish.

So I'm looking at plain jane left over 2017 GMC 2500HD's with the 6.0

That's how I may fix this!

$39,900 for a base 2500HD with a warranty!

Quit buggin' me, back to that spindly boxy tiny differential, small bolt only five lug nut tiny tire, pretty ugly GJ so I can at least get one vehicle running!
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« Reply #121 on: December 27, 2017, 12:36:18 PM »
SDOTin^^^^^

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« Reply #122 on: December 27, 2017, 02:04:32 PM »
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« Reply #123 on: December 27, 2017, 02:14:49 PM »
2012+ JK's have all sorts of new fangled e lec tronics on them that get all scrambled up when you mess with them, especially the stability and trac control seem to like to throw the dang things into limp mode with the slightest modifications. do you have an AEV procal module for programming? I know it may be completely unrelated, just spitballing ideas here.
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« Reply #124 on: December 27, 2017, 02:47:04 PM »
Pics? :popcorn:

Couple things, what Tate said those newer ones electronics are a pia & I just spent $700 on a rebuilt ecm because mine wasn’t reading any of the 4 new o2 sensors. I know I didn’t document it because I couldn’t figure it out. Shop around corner did, anyhow my other thought is this is only the beginning Don. How much do you want to put into GJ because it’s been limited so far and they constantly try to suck you dry......
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« Reply #125 on: December 27, 2017, 03:52:48 PM »
I think the boss was talkin' 'bout Cmax up there^^^

Don, P1082 is the fuel vacuum switch (lift pump inop, restriction between injection pump and tank, ice....)
        P128e= low fuel pressure
and P2510 is an issue with the PCM power relay. That code can be caused by low/bad batteries, possibly from her cranking it too long. The first code is the important one.
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« Reply #126 on: December 27, 2017, 04:36:53 PM »
Crappy Kroger gas might have water in it? Try a bottle of heat.
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« Reply #127 on: December 27, 2017, 04:52:14 PM »
Especially if she put gas in it.  lol
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« Reply #128 on: December 27, 2017, 05:21:10 PM »
Especially if she put gas in it.  lol

Per the usual I wasn’t paying attention but since we are discussing the truck not the GJ being broke. I used to run that Kroger diesel & always ran de icer bottle every other tank when it got teens and lower. Never had issues this way with that fuel.
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« Reply #129 on: December 27, 2017, 05:54:20 PM »
I think the boss was talkin' 'bout Cmax up there^^^

Don, P1082 is the fuel vacuum switch (lift pump inop, restriction between injection pump and tank, ice....)
        P128e= low fuel pressure
and P2510 is an issue with the PCM power relay. That code can be caused by low/bad batteries, possibly from her cranking it too long. The first code is the important one.

Yeah, didn't proof read his post very well.
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« Reply #130 on: December 27, 2017, 07:28:31 PM »
Don, try changing the filters and putting some additive in the tank.  I bet that clears it up.  You may have had some water in the separator and it iced up.
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« Reply #131 on: December 27, 2017, 08:17:10 PM »
OK, so I limped it home into the driveway

Plugged in the block heater for about an hour

It started right up and ran normally.

Kept the block heater on it all day. Started and ran it several times with no abnormalities what so ever

I run Costco fuel, but am adding some deicer tomorrow. Truck seems to run normally now.

I did not drive it because I worked in a garage which was 12F most of the day finishing up the lift kit install

Here's the start of that project:
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« Reply #132 on: December 27, 2017, 08:18:58 PM »
Here's the contents of the Rough Country 2.5" bracket only lift using stock shocks and springs (Intended for girls!):
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« Reply #133 on: December 27, 2017, 08:21:38 PM »
First task is to tear it down

Simple really, just work.

Remove lower shock bolt, remove sway bar link and discard, relocate brake lines 2" lower, R&R springs and Isolator after first stuffing the new 2.5" spacer onto the upper coil spring retainer/mount
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« Reply #134 on: December 27, 2017, 08:22:51 PM »
Stock the bottom of the fender lip is at 35 1/8" (Suitable for road racing and high speed autobahn runs)
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« Reply #135 on: December 27, 2017, 08:27:20 PM »
BTW, this was a big character building exercise for me. First I don't hold these GJ's in high regard. Second, this has to be the first time I ever purchased all terrain tires. Next, I don't like working on these feminine things, and finally a couple of my fingers froze solid and broke off.

As for the difficulty of the project, using the five wrench standard, I'd give it a wrench and a half (Two if you have similar feelings about these spindly things.)

Reversing the process, one uses most of the stock hardware which in my view is wise as those stock parts are high quality and of proper strength

Lifted front height came in at 38 3/4" a total lift of kit and tires of 3 5/8"
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« Reply #136 on: December 27, 2017, 08:29:44 PM »
And here it is all done!

I decided to just lift the front end and say to heck with it. I mean, who cares its a jeep!
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« Reply #137 on: December 27, 2017, 08:31:36 PM »
OK, just messin' with ya

Here's the action in the aft end of this pretty, cute little thing!
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« Reply #138 on: December 27, 2017, 08:33:57 PM »
BTW, I had also ordered the plastic eyelashes for the headlights, but they came in in black...She's a blonde, so I held off on that install!

The rear track bar relocation/extension was about the most challenging of the steps and it wasn't hard, only complicated by the right hand missing fingers...
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« Reply #139 on: December 27, 2017, 08:38:41 PM »
That Dana 44 is smaller than the gearbox on my bush hog!

Anyhow, I took it for a drive, and I have to say, it rides great! Much quieter, and all the square sides of the previous tires are gone. It has suffered a noticeable loss of power, and since it never had any to begin with it is not a good thing. In cruise at 70 mph, it was dropping down a gear in hills. It never did that before. Maybe the engine will explode, blowing the thing apart which will get it out of my driveway...One can only dream!

Couple of poser shots for ya

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« Reply #140 on: December 27, 2017, 09:16:55 PM »
Looks good Don. I picked busted knuckles. Not sure which DoT had fingers...


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« Reply #141 on: December 27, 2017, 09:55:21 PM »
Any concerns on that rear track bar relocate bracket? It looks a bit “flimsy” from the angle those pictures were snapped. As you know there is a whole lot of force on that bracket, on my ome kit they dropped it on the frame side & it’s pretty beefy.
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« Reply #142 on: December 27, 2017, 11:36:44 PM »
How did you loose fingers Don? I only see the pre-ranger working.

Does look good though. Tell the pre-ranger he did a good job.

I do hear they like to bend the 44 axle tubes.
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« Reply #143 on: December 28, 2017, 06:02:38 AM »
What size are the stock tires/wheels?
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« Reply #144 on: December 28, 2017, 06:39:58 AM »
I think they make stiffening tubes that go inside the axle housing.  Slide out the shafts, slide in the axle stiffener and reinstall the shafts.


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« Reply #145 on: December 28, 2017, 08:51:55 AM »
I think they make stiffening tubes that go inside the axle housing.  Slide out the shafts, slide in the axle stiffener and reinstall the shafts.


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They make weld in tubes (internal) using plug welds for front as well as outer reinforcement tube weld on. The inner c’s bend too & they have gusset kits. It’s all just a bandaid, not that HH6 will probably bend any of it pounding pavement or a muddy dirt track to the hide. Not sure about rear upgrades as I don’t think they are as weak being non steer axle.
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« Reply #146 on: December 28, 2017, 09:01:42 AM »
Yeah. Listen to that guy ^. I’ve never owned a Jeep


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« Reply #147 on: December 28, 2017, 10:14:52 AM »
That Dana 44 is smaller than the gearbox on my bush hog!

Anyhow, I took it for a drive, and I have to say, it rides great! Much quieter, and all the square sides of the previous tires are gone. It has suffered a noticeable loss of power, and since it never had any to begin with it is not a good thing. In cruise at 70 mph, it was dropping down a gear in hills. It never did that before. Maybe the engine will explode, blowing the thing apart which will get it out of my driveway...One can only dream!

Couple of poser shots for ya

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Looks great. They are pretty gutless out of the box, and adding the larger tires doesn't help much. if it's an auto, then probably 3.21 gears factory. A set of 4.11 would fix her up just right, but that's just another wrench party in the cold, plus you'd need to program to correct it. The tube stiffeners would be appropriate if you were using it as God intended, off road, but not for a daily unless the tuck has a lot of really big pot holes and mulch piles to navigate. Even then, I would imagine the Frau would be able to negotiate those obstacles even with two different shoes.
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« Reply #148 on: December 28, 2017, 10:16:10 AM »
How did you loose fingers Don? I only see the pre-ranger working.

Does look good though. Tell the pre-ranger he did a good job.

I do hear they like to bend the 44 axle tubes.
Well, it turns out I only thought I lost em'

I couldn't feel them for best part of a day due to handling tools and parts which were about 100 degrees below zero. Later in the night, they thawed out and I realized they were still installed and functional.
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Re: 2016 Rubicon GJ
« Reply #149 on: December 28, 2017, 10:17:35 AM »
That Dana 44 is smaller than the gearbox on my bush hog!

Anyhow, I took it for a drive, and I have to say, it rides great! Much quieter, and all the square sides of the previous tires are gone. It has suffered a noticeable loss of power, and since it never had any to begin with it is not a good thing. In cruise at 70 mph, it was dropping down a gear in hills. It never did that before. Maybe the engine will explode, blowing the thing apart which will get it out of my driveway...One can only dream!

Couple of poser shots for ya

Now back to cleaning bathrooms and doing dishes. I(I need something more interesting to do to liven my spirits after that frozen wasteland wrench party!)

Looks great. They are pretty gutless out of the box, and adding the larger tires doesn't help much. if it's an auto, then probably 3.21 gears factory. A set of 4.11 would fix her up just right, but that's just another wrench party in the cold, plus you'd need to program to correct it. The tube stiffeners would be appropriate if you were using it as God intended, off road, but not for a daily unless the tuck has a lot of really big pot holes and mulch piles to navigate. Even then, I would imagine the Frau would be able to negotiate those obstacles even with two different shoes.
Tater, the rubies come with a 3.73 as the baseline, hers has 4.10's, the optional gear. I had to look high and low to find one with the 4.10 gear.
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