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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #550 on: January 05, 2016, 08:02:53 PM »
when we got ours running, we only had 2 rubber hoses (supply to lift pump and return from IP) running into a 1 gallon jug of diesel. it was literally sitting in a wooden cradle in the driveway. may could try the same, at least to rule out your pre lift pump filters causing low fuel pressure..
This, might be a good re-start point.
Dirt simple, and eliminates everything not used to 'run'.
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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« Reply #551 on: January 05, 2016, 10:23:38 PM »
when we got ours running, we only had 2 rubber hoses (supply to lift pump and return from IP) running into a 1 gallon jug of diesel. it was literally sitting in a wooden cradle in the driveway. may could try the same, at least to rule out your pre lift pump filters causing low fuel pressure..
That is my next step. All this talk now has me wondering about that fuel filter I selected. Maybe it's restrictive, who knows???
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« Reply #552 on: January 05, 2016, 10:46:50 PM »
Getting back to simple and basic is always a good route when you've been stumped for a bit. Time to regroup and kick this thing in the rear we know you'll get it figured out.
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« Reply #553 on: January 05, 2016, 10:52:53 PM »
when we got ours running, we only had 2 rubber hoses (supply to lift pump and return from IP) running into a 1 gallon jug of diesel. it was literally sitting in a wooden cradle in the driveway. may could try the same, at least to rule out your pre lift pump filters causing low fuel pressure..
That is my next step. All this talk now has me wondering about that fuel filter I selected. Maybe it's restrictive, who knows???

on our 4bt, 6bt and 175 kW Volvo penta generators (somewhere in the 8-10liter range) we run wix 33357 on the cummins and a 33357 and 33358 in series on the 175 kws. they are all block mounted, post lift pump. I think it goes back to them being able to push/maintain more pressure than the lift pump can suck through 2 filters and an electric pump (if I remembered your setup correctly)

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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #554 on: January 06, 2016, 01:54:48 AM »
Remember the picture of aviation warrants prepared for pt.  He wouldn't remember what the bugle calls were.

To me that looks like the .0002 secs after a BN Co/ CSM decided to declare a ultra rare ZONK before a long muddy, rainy BN run in body armor, and fatigue pants..


Except there isn't a couple new guys looking around wondering what happened and where everyone disappeared to.
So, Bobby...being the calculating trained warrior NCO that you are.  Take the appropriate action, Execute!
your standard grunt level CQB is just putting rounds and rounds on scary stuff till it stops scaring you!

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« Reply #555 on: January 12, 2016, 06:00:15 PM »
The truck moved yesterday!

Yup

The boys and I pushed it ahead about 10 inches so we could close the garage door!

I think I am getting over being angry with it (Myself). Maybe I try and figure out what I was working on that caused me to get the hives every time I walked past it!
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #556 on: January 12, 2016, 08:00:45 PM »
Don, because I really like you, I'm willing to take it off your hands to save you the hassle..  I can be there with the trailer to pick it up this weekend...cause I'm your friend...
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« Reply #557 on: January 12, 2016, 09:05:38 PM »
he's only trying to help..

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« Reply #558 on: January 12, 2016, 10:21:37 PM »
Really, I am.
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« Reply #559 on: January 13, 2016, 02:34:35 AM »
Generous offer.   ;D
So, Bobby...being the calculating trained warrior NCO that you are.  Take the appropriate action, Execute!
your standard grunt level CQB is just putting rounds and rounds on scary stuff till it stops scaring you!

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« Reply #560 on: January 13, 2016, 07:53:39 AM »
I will share a motivational speech my Grandfather once gave me while I was angry with my 52 GMC pickup I at the time had just restored.

"So Norm a smart young man such as yourself is angry at a mechanical device? Isn't that admitting it's smarter than you, it's tougher than you, that you have lost to metal and combustibles that man created from nothing but an idea, drove for decades, and then left laying in a field because it no longer had a value to them? I am going down to the coffee shop to share this with my friends, it should be a good laugh. Wait until they hear you spent hundreds of hours painting it and making it just beautiful but your giving up on it running"  At which point he walked off laughing...stopped and mentioned that he bought that truck new and he never found it difficult to keep running...in fact it ran just fine when he parked it.

Now as a kid I fumed, probably called him names I'd only dare say in the silence of my mind, and even then felt guilty about. In the end he was correct so I made it run....

Now mind you, just last week I fired a 10mm wrench through the windshield of a old Dodge that annoyed me....so I learn slow LoL





 

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« Reply #561 on: January 13, 2016, 05:42:43 PM »
I'm much more like the last paragraph^^^^ there, Norm!

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« Reply #562 on: January 14, 2016, 02:02:52 PM »
I'm here for you, Don.


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« Reply #563 on: January 22, 2016, 03:36:57 PM »
Don,

I began reading the various threads covering this build a couple weeks ago, when I joined the sight (I saw the thread on Square D on Expedition, which brought me to RMTW&S), and just got caught up. I'm amazed at the worksmanship! I am sure that this problem will get solved. Just a thought, but since you increased the diameter of all your fuel supply lines, could this not be a part of your pressure problem? Bigger lines flow more fuel, but also reduce pressure, at least by my understandings of Mr. Bernouli's principle. Whatever the problem is, I am sure you will figure it out! Maybe God is trying to give you the oportunity to learn how to figure out a problem you will face in the future?
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« Reply #564 on: January 22, 2016, 06:15:08 PM »
Don,

I began reading the various threads covering this build a couple weeks ago, when I joined the sight (I saw the thread on Square D on Expedition, which brought me to RMTW&S), and just got caught up. I'm amazed at the worksmanship! I am sure that this problem will get solved. Just a thought, but since you increased the diameter of all your fuel supply lines, could this not be a part of your pressure problem? Bigger lines flow more fuel, but also reduce pressure, at least by my understandings of Mr. Bernouli's principle. Whatever the problem is, I am sure you will figure it out! Maybe God is trying to give you the oportunity to learn how to figure out a problem you will face in the future?

I do think the problem is fuel pressure related
I just haven't had time to mess with it. I have been involved in a pretty big project which has sapped a lot of time.
Larger fuel lines do produce less pressure, however the whole thing is firewalled at the pressure relief valve at the outlet of the Injection pump. The electric and mechanical pumps will stack up pressure at that point equal to the pressure of the relief spring.

I am more suspect of the fuel filter I placed inline as a possible restriction. Maybe after I clear off this new snow fall I'll put some heat out there and bypass the thing as an experiment.

As for God interfering? Well if he is, then he has my permission and blessing. Maybe showing me that truck could have been a bit of an idol, don't know. I surely wouldn't it to be anything like that!
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« Reply #565 on: January 23, 2016, 11:00:08 AM »
God does work in funny to us ways. I personally am convinced God is showing the world why the VE pump has his blessing, and the P pump.... is evil.  :D

Don...enjoy the dusting of snow, and don't forget to play in it some, that is the best part of snow.

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« Reply #566 on: January 23, 2016, 12:00:29 PM »
Norm, how many PPump engines do you have?????????

I think it mechanical too. So many Ppump engine run very well.
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« Reply #567 on: January 23, 2016, 12:25:52 PM »
I saw the craziest thing the other day. A kit to outfit a Duramax with a P pump. 12,000.  Eek


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« Reply #568 on: January 23, 2016, 12:42:01 PM »
God does work in funny to us ways. I personally am convinced God is showing the world why the VE pump has his blessing, and the P pump.... is evil.  :D

Don...enjoy the dusting of snow, and don't forget to play in it some, that is the best part of snow.
Already did!

And in hind sight, I think I would have stayed with the VE motor...Next time!

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« Reply #569 on: January 23, 2016, 01:09:12 PM »
Or. .....
Maybe stuck with Chebby.. 

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« Reply #570 on: January 23, 2016, 02:32:04 PM »
Or. .....
Maybe stuck with Chebby.. 

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« Reply #571 on: January 23, 2016, 02:50:37 PM »
Or. .....
Maybe stuck with Chebby.. 

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Not unless it is stuck in the front yard!

Or mulch at the local mall,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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« Reply #572 on: January 23, 2016, 04:05:25 PM »
Or. .....
Maybe stuck with Chebby.. 

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Not unless it is stuck in the front yard!

Or mulch at the local mall,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

I thought Don's Cheby runs............. ???
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« Reply #573 on: January 23, 2016, 04:40:56 PM »
And in hind sight, I think I would have stayed with the VE motor...Next time!

I do seem to remember telling you to stick with the stock motor, but NOOOO "someone" wanted to be special and put the more powerful, upgraded dangerous motor in..


Pilots... ??? ::)
So, Bobby...being the calculating trained warrior NCO that you are.  Take the appropriate action, Execute!
your standard grunt level CQB is just putting rounds and rounds on scary stuff till it stops scaring you!

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« Reply #574 on: January 23, 2016, 04:59:39 PM »
Norn said it to, as he did to me.
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« Reply #575 on: January 24, 2016, 03:16:01 PM »
And in hind sight, I think I would have stayed with the VE motor...Next time!

I do seem to remember telling you to stick with the stock motor, but NOOOO "someone" wanted to be special and put the more powerful, upgraded dangerous motor in..


Pilots... ??? ::)

Ok, OK, so you're right for once

This time Infantry 1 aviation 0

But there will be a next time!
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« Reply #576 on: January 24, 2016, 03:58:28 PM »
Contemplating swapping mine for a VE. With people wanting the P motors so bad I bet I could do it for free.
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« Reply #577 on: February 03, 2016, 08:33:03 PM »
I thought I'd type something here.... like the ole days.....

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« Reply #578 on: February 03, 2016, 09:48:55 PM »
He ain't got time for this, new toy n all...... :D
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« Reply #579 on: February 03, 2016, 10:02:33 PM »
I thought he had a commitment to us first?  I feel rejected, neglected...
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« Reply #580 on: February 03, 2016, 10:11:22 PM »
Ah, come on fellas!

I still love ya(s)

OK, OK, right after I figure out this building thing tomorrow, I'll turn a wrench on SquareD...fi my wrenches haven't rusted together into a solid mass!
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« Reply #581 on: February 03, 2016, 11:08:38 PM »
Honestly we just want to see you cross this project off your list. All the man hours & money spent & you're so close. Ash & I were discussing this today that if roles were reversed we'd have thrown the bank accounts at this to get it done........ So oil up those darned wrenches & get a move on already! ;D
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« Reply #582 on: February 04, 2016, 12:26:38 AM »
Ah, come on fellas!

I still love ya(s)

OK, OK, right after I figure out this building thing tomorrow, I'll turn a wrench on SquareD...fi my wrenches haven't rusted together into a solid mass!

I thought that TRN came and loaded it up on his trailer?

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« Reply #583 on: February 04, 2016, 12:55:13 AM »
Maybe we could auction it off? For charity of course  8)
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« Reply #584 on: February 04, 2016, 08:16:06 AM »
Ah, come on fellas!

I still love ya(s)

OK, OK, right after I figure out this building thing tomorrow, I'll turn a wrench on SquareD...fi my wrenches haven't rusted together into a solid mass!

I thought that TRN came and loaded it up on his trailer?
He threatened to!
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« Reply #585 on: February 04, 2016, 01:23:18 PM »
We love ya Don- but Square D is like the gestation period of an Elephant- we wanna see it BORN, taking a few steps into a mulch bed, hauling some new parts for your next project, your boys jumping brush piles in it they've created with Big Red.........The Real Man Hooten-nany, Lead Fest and Chili Cook-off "coming out" party for it......Spring is almost in the AIR!
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« Reply #586 on: February 04, 2016, 03:44:33 PM »
I come here everyday looking for movement, nothing day after day since the 24th of Jan. Then today when I clicked in the Build threads.......... nothing but a tease..... Oh, the agony....
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« Reply #587 on: February 04, 2016, 04:02:10 PM »
DOT presence is strong here on this thread......
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« Reply #588 on: February 04, 2016, 04:52:10 PM »
I come here everyday looking for movement, nothing day after day since the 24th of Jan. Then today when I clicked in the Build threads.......... nothing but a tease..... Oh, the agony....

No tease here, just the Big Players. The 'Ol Dodge is just a distraction. :)
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« Reply #589 on: February 04, 2016, 05:31:19 PM »
You boyz have been busy!

I was down at the farm all day freezin' my buttox off, thank you very much. Will report activities over on hide site thread...
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« Reply #590 on: February 04, 2016, 06:58:29 PM »
May the DOT's be with you,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,or SD  ::)
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« Reply #591 on: February 04, 2016, 07:05:51 PM »
Ah, come on fellas!

I still love ya(s)

OK, OK, right after I figure out this building thing tomorrow, I'll turn a wrench on SquareD...fi my wrenches haven't rusted together into a solid mass!

I thought that TRN came and loaded it up on his trailer?
He threatened to!


I was just trying to help.  I got mine rolling under its own power....still a few more details to work out.
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« Reply #592 on: February 19, 2016, 02:30:36 PM »
I hear a rumor that Square D was sighted for sale on CL! I heard BD was willing to make an even trade on a Toyota Prius in good condition!!!  :o
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« Reply #593 on: February 19, 2016, 04:32:47 PM »
I hear a rumor that Square D was sighted for sale on CL! I heard BD was willing to make an even trade on a Toyota Prius in good condition!!!  :o

I heard it was a Kia..  ;D
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« Reply #594 on: February 19, 2016, 04:55:03 PM »
I hear a rumor that Square D was sighted for sale on CL! I heard BD was willing to make an even trade on a Toyota Prius in good condition!!!  :o

I heard it was a Kia..  ;D

I'd take a Kia over a Prius, but it is still discouraging... :'(

I mean, he didn't even offer it to RMT&S members first!?! Straight to CL???  >:(  ;)
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« Reply #595 on: February 19, 2016, 05:53:13 PM »
I hear a rumor that Square D was sighted for sale on CL! I heard BD was willing to make an even trade on a Toyota Prius in good condition!!!  :o

I heard it was a Kia..  ;D

Neg, Hyundai.....
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« Reply #596 on: February 19, 2016, 07:11:28 PM »
Neg, Hyundai.....

I heard he really preferred a Smart car, or failing that a Tesla electric car.
So, Bobby...being the calculating trained warrior NCO that you are.  Take the appropriate action, Execute!
your standard grunt level CQB is just putting rounds and rounds on scary stuff till it stops scaring you!

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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #597 on: February 19, 2016, 07:55:47 PM »
Nah, I think maybe one of those lifted & suped up electric golf carts......
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #598 on: February 20, 2016, 01:06:31 AM »
Nah, I think maybe one of those lifted & suped up electric golf carts......

I had one of those, it was a blast!!!

I know, A built up lifted Dodge pickup,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #599 on: February 20, 2016, 07:27:49 AM »
Maybe he's into leaf blower powered skateboards. That would be more of an equal trade. .

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