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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #950 on: July 28, 2016, 10:57:02 PM »
Good job boss!

Now go drive the truck...

Fixed it Ken.  8)
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #951 on: July 28, 2016, 11:07:03 PM »
That looks like a ton of work.  Nice job.  How will you test if it's water tight?

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« Reply #952 on: July 29, 2016, 10:20:40 AM »
Looks real good there Chief!
You left the ether warning sticker though... ::)

Ah---Just trying to keep some of the original stuff intact

I'm so nostalgic!
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #953 on: July 29, 2016, 10:22:01 AM »
That looks like a ton of work.  Nice job.  How will you test if it's water tight?

It is sealed.

It will work

Kinda of an emergency thing...I'm not going to submerge the truck or anything
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #954 on: July 29, 2016, 10:24:49 AM »
Good job boss!

Now go drive the truck...

Fixed it Ken.  8)

Well, brakes, brake pedal, springs coming up

Then figure out the transmission thing

Then it should be driveable

Maybe the AC  as well...
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #955 on: July 29, 2016, 01:36:33 PM »
That looks like a ton of work.  Nice job.  How will you test if it's water tight?

It is sealed.

It will work

Kinda of an emergency thing...I'm not going to submerge the truck or anything

he can test it when the home place gets a hurricane and floods the garage..  :P

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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #956 on: July 29, 2016, 03:04:06 PM »
Meh, pilots don't need brakes. Don I thought you still had some bugs to work out of the engine/injectors?


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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #957 on: July 29, 2016, 03:09:17 PM »
I was thinking the water holding pond at the local shopping mall next to all those mulch beds he's find of.....

On second thought I doubt he could get the rear wheels into the mulch bed before getting it stuck.
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #958 on: July 29, 2016, 04:00:22 PM »
Meh, pilots don't need brakes. Don I thought you still had some bugs to work out of the engine/injectors?


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I do now!

After reinstalling the marine injectors I have a stumble and a back fire thing when I rev it.

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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #959 on: July 29, 2016, 04:02:00 PM »
I was thinking the water holding pond at the local shopping mall next to all those mulch beds he's find of.....

On second thought I doubt he could get the rear wheels into the mulch bed before getting it stuck.
Malls, mulch beds, mud...generally things that start with the letter "M" are Much to hazardous a site to test anything except kamikaze pilots!
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« Reply #960 on: July 29, 2016, 04:56:54 PM »
Outstanding. Now just get it running smooth for a test.
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #961 on: July 29, 2016, 05:15:46 PM »
for what it's worth.. I hooked up the new line on my dads 5.9 unbled and just cranked it up. ran like 'blrahh.. blrahh..blrahh..' for maybe 5 seconds and flattened right out. that was only one though. I wonder if the studder you're experiencing is because of timing/fueling since the marine injector swap? as in.. might need more timing to account for bigger injectors (if my thinking is correct)

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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #962 on: July 29, 2016, 09:55:58 PM »
for what it's worth.. I hooked up the new line on my dads 5.9 unbled and just cranked it up. ran like 'blrahh.. blrahh..blrahh..' for maybe 5 seconds and flattened right out. that was only one though. I wonder if the studder you're experiencing is because of timing/fueling since the marine injector swap? as in.. might need more timing to account for bigger injectors (if my thinking is correct)
I don't think so
Stock is 12.5 BTDC
I set the timing on this retune to 18 degrees BTDC
That should be spot on or at least in the middle of the sweet zone for big injectors, fuel plate and the rest of the magic.

Air in the line or a bad new injector

Remember I mounted up a perfectly bad new lift pump, so anything's possible!
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #963 on: July 29, 2016, 10:11:36 PM »
I just went out and started it, but its acting like a gas engine with a bad spark plug
Backfires on acceleration
has a very low, rump, rump, rump idle
Still blowing out some white smoke (Unburned fuel)
Rev it and let of the throttle and the engine dies
I have to slowly bring it down to the low idle for it to remain running

Wayne found some tiny brass like metal filings in the fuel cups when we partially disassembled the injection pump. I'm wondering if one or several of those made it down stream to foul the micro passages in those injectors???

But part of the problem has persisted. Even when it was running more normally with the stock injectors, it was idling and puffing out some white smoke that smells like unburned fuel.

It's not going to be easy to sort this thing out with so many sub systems not working yet. I still need to get the brakes working. I still need to sort out the transmission and that isn't going to be easy with an engine that is not running correctly. But It will have to run some and the trans work to pull it onto a trailer to haul it over to a decent diesel mechanic to make it right.

I have some cliffs to scale still before this thing becomes usable...
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #964 on: July 29, 2016, 11:30:18 PM »
Tow trucks are outfitted with winches nowadays, if you're gunna break down & use a mechanic might as well throw $75 at a tow bill........
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #965 on: July 30, 2016, 12:49:32 AM »
Sure that timing isn't advanced just a tad to far?

18 is on the high end with 12.5 normal. Maybe back it down to around 15-16 and see if it smooths out with the large injectors.

Then call AAA,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #966 on: July 30, 2016, 08:16:37 AM »
mine is set to 15.5* with what are supposed to be 90 HP injectors. the thing cranks and runs like a top. a cummins guy told me anything over about 17 will result in harder starts and will need more fuel..

can't wait to see it running down the road..

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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #967 on: July 30, 2016, 08:19:39 AM »
wait.. how long has it run. like.. in total? when we got my dads engine I dont know when the last time it ran. we checked the oil, primed it as best we could and fired it up. it smoked, beat, banged knocked and wouldn't run under ~1k rpm for a few minutes is I recall. but after that, it flattened right out and cranks easy with no issues coming back to idle.

but for the first few minutes of its new life.. she wasn't happy.

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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #968 on: July 30, 2016, 09:54:37 AM »
Sure that timing isn't advanced just a tad to far?

18 is on the high end with 12.5 normal. Maybe back it down to around 15-16 and see if it smooths out with the large injectors.

Then call AAA,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

My bad, The timing is set to 16.5 degrees, not 18

Had to research my own posts...Found it on post 410 this thread:

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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #969 on: July 31, 2016, 01:40:45 PM »
Here's what it is looking like at the moment

Still a lot of red showing!

Square D Punch-out list
Green:   Completed
Yellow: In progress
Purple: Awaiting parts
Red: Not completed

Install stainless hardware to aux fuel door, repaint mount plate
Seal fuel filler port/repair leak
Fabricate fender well bulkhead/Install air cleaner
Close off back of right fender well
Connect air intake to turbo
Find/repair transmission leak
Install Lift pump
Reconnect fuel supply lines
Install Overflow valve
Reinstall Marine injectors


Wire up top area illumination lights

Connect Brake pedal
Connect Proportioning valve…strange fittings??
Fill and bleed brake system
Relocate left front limb riser cable mount
Relocate throttle cable
Mount AC condenser
Run AC lines
Hook up AC system, bleed/charge
Figure out AC wiring to use factory switch
Install air filter to cab air
Install convoluted wire loom covering on top/exterior wires
Fabricate sill plates/secure carpet and wiring
Figure out/repair dome light
Install foot well lights
Label overhead switches
Install transfer case 4WD indicator switch in top of case (OUCH!)
Figure out/install transmission wiring from two-prong switch
Install overdrive switch…New model shift lever/switch??
Reinstall fuel shutoff plate
Install momentary grid heater switch next to fuel shutoff
Install aux fuel tank fuel level gage
Connect fuel transfer pump switch from aux tank
Install 10 psi Hobbs switch to H2O injection
Hook up rear air bag lines
Replace rear taillight sockets and secure harness
Top off power steering fluid
Replace aft deep cycle battery with normal unit
Gage cluster:   
   Figure out/repair the half of the lights that don’t work
   Figure out/repair speedometer
   Mount tachometer/ hook up and get working
Build left door panel or repair and install factory panel
**Install new Silverado rear springs
**Install rear shackle flip system
**Install new front leaf spring mount on rear springs
**Fab up rear entry door to replace rear hatch and tail gate
**Modify rear topper top to a flip up design
**Fabricate rock rails
**Fabricate rear “Surprise” module
**Fabricate smoke generator
**Fab up rear folding bunk
**Fab up storage for bed
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #970 on: July 31, 2016, 01:57:49 PM »
Whew!
Still quite a list to do.
Good news is it's shrinking, and some are small/trivial, and non show stoppers.
Some will be a challenge, t-case...ouch.

Keep atter there Chief, the end is coming...
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #971 on: July 31, 2016, 05:04:08 PM »
I don't feel as bad with Spartan after seeing that.
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #972 on: September 08, 2016, 09:39:12 PM »
Don,
Did you ever add a spring from the old dodge pack to your chechevy packs to help with the flatness??

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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #973 on: September 09, 2016, 09:08:09 AM »
Don,
Did you ever add a spring from the old dodge pack to your chechevy packs to help with the flatness??
No is the short answer...

The other leaves are sitting right there next to the truck, but not installed yet!

They will be, but this farm thing is definitely eating my time
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #974 on: September 09, 2016, 09:11:45 AM »
Another question, have you driven the truck yet enough  to see how the front springs feel? And do you think a dodge leaf will ruin the nicer ride? Im asking because my chevy 52s are doing the same and i have my dodge packs to disect

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« Reply #975 on: September 09, 2016, 09:22:01 AM »
Another question, have you driven the truck yet enough  to see how the front springs feel? And do you think a dodge leaf will ruin the nicer ride? Im asking because my chevy 52s are doing the same and i have my dodge packs to disect
No, I haven't driven it at all

It is not done

Just paused

Has no brakes yet,

Linkages need to be invented

Transmission cable/wiring needs to go in

No AC system yet

Some electrical things to sort out

It is still just a project...
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« Reply #976 on: September 09, 2016, 10:09:49 AM »
Driving the truck would call for video!
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« Reply #977 on: September 09, 2016, 12:03:56 PM »
THIS JUST IN! BIG D IS QOUTED AS STATING THAT SQUARE D IS JUST "A PROJECT" AND WON'T BE DRIVEN! THIS REPORTER, AFTER SPINNING AND DISSECTING STATEMENTS FROM THE RMT&S READERSHIP, AND THROUGH CAREFUL EDUCATED ANALYSIS, BELIEVES THAT THE SQUARE D "PROJECT" IS AN ATTEMPT BY DEMOCRATIC PARTY LEADERSHIP TO DISTRACT CONSERVATIVES FROM THE HEINOUS ACTS OF THEIR CANDIDATE BY ENCOURAGING THEM TO STARE AT SQUARE D TOPICS ON THE INTERNET FOR MANY HOURS EACH DAY HOPING FOR AN UPDATE! THIS REPORTER BELIEVES THAT ALL PICTORIAL EVIDENCE OF THE EXISTENCE OF THE SO-CALLED SQUARE D IS FALSE, AND OR PHOTOSHOPPED FROM OTHER "PROJECTS" AROUND THE INTERWEB! READING THIS WILL LEAD TO ENLIGHTENMENT, AND THE PROBABLE "FIRING" OF THIS REPORTER! BEWARE!  8) :o ;D ;)
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« Reply #978 on: September 09, 2016, 12:51:22 PM »
LOLROF
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #979 on: September 09, 2016, 01:27:09 PM »
Oh boy. I don't know that guy, and didn't have anything to do with his "reporting" bossman.....I tried deleting his craziness, but for some reason my fingers wouldn't let me! Please don't fire me again....
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« Reply #980 on: September 09, 2016, 01:41:46 PM »
I've met Don........

HE'S NO DEMOCRAT AND THIS IS NOT A FEINT........MULCH MUST BE DRIVEN ON SOON!
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« Reply #981 on: September 09, 2016, 02:12:47 PM »
Way I hear it Ken has a super secret mission planned to install an H bumper sticker on the rolling parts bin. That's how I heard it anyhow...... ::)
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« Reply #982 on: September 09, 2016, 03:12:26 PM »
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« Reply #983 on: September 09, 2016, 03:53:31 PM »
That sticker may be on there for some time before discovered,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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« Reply #984 on: September 09, 2016, 05:06:13 PM »
THIS JUST IN! BIG D IS QOUTED AS STATING THAT SQUARE D IS JUST "A PROJECT" AND WON'T BE DRIVEN! THIS REPORTER, AFTER SPINNING AND DISSECTING STATEMENTS FROM THE RMT&S READERSHIP, AND THROUGH CAREFUL EDUCATED ANALYSIS, BELIEVES THAT THE SQUARE D "PROJECT" IS AN ATTEMPT BY DEMOCRATIC PARTY LEADERSHIP TO DISTRACT CONSERVATIVES FROM THE HEINOUS ACTS OF THEIR CANDIDATE BY ENCOURAGING THEM TO STARE AT SQUARE D TOPICS ON THE INTERNET FOR MANY HOURS EACH DAY HOPING FOR AN UPDATE! THIS REPORTER BELIEVES THAT ALL PICTORIAL EVIDENCE OF THE EXISTENCE OF THE SO-CALLED SQUARE D IS FALSE, AND OR PHOTOSHOPPED FROM OTHER "PROJECTS" AROUND THE INTERWEB! READING THIS WILL LEAD TO ENLIGHTENMENT, AND THE PROBABLE "FIRING" OF THIS REPORTER! BEWARE!  8) :o ;D ;)

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« Reply #985 on: September 09, 2016, 08:44:54 PM »
You people are fortunate

I've been studying grace...

I really don't want to practice it, especially on that Cav guy

But its training for me. I'm workin on my sensitive side! ;)
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« Reply #986 on: September 09, 2016, 09:27:27 PM »
Eph 2 5-8 ;)
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« Reply #987 on: September 09, 2016, 11:34:36 PM »
i went 4-10

But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5 even when we were dead [f]in our transgressions, made us alive together [g]with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6 and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7 so that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and [h]that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. 10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them
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« Reply #988 on: September 10, 2016, 08:21:24 AM »
Well!

Finally

A D.O.T

We can all be proud of and

is actually worth something

Good work menses!
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« Reply #989 on: September 29, 2016, 11:21:26 PM »
Man I've been off of here awhile.  Just getting caught up.   Fantastic work on the snorkel. 

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« Reply #990 on: September 30, 2016, 08:49:51 AM »
That was a while ago!

I take it you mean the inside fender and engine bay mods to make it all work

THat was fun

I am itchin' to get back on it, but I have a bigger itch down at the farm at the moment
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« Reply #991 on: September 30, 2016, 10:48:42 AM »
Do tell, you have been awful quiet all around.
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« Reply #992 on: October 12, 2016, 10:32:02 AM »
All tied up doing farm stuff
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« Reply #993 on: October 12, 2016, 04:06:44 PM »
So I see now that I found thread #2. Still catching up.
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« Reply #994 on: January 01, 2017, 09:04:54 PM »
So so we delete this thread from a lack of progress ?


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« Reply #995 on: January 03, 2017, 09:26:17 AM »
THIS JUST IN! THE SQUARE D BUILD THREAD(S) WILL SOON BE DELETED! THE PROJECT HAS BEEN STALLED FOR SO LONG THAT THE POOR DERELICT SHELL OF A VEHICLE HAS SUCCUMBED TO THE EVERY INCREASING WEIGHT OF THE VILE, DESTRUCTIVE DUST THAT "BIG D" HAS ALLOWED TO BUILD UPON HER POOR NEGLECTED BODY. SHE HAS BEEN REDUCED TO HER BASE ELEMENTS, AND RUMOR HAS IT, WILL BE USED AS MULCH FOR MRS. D'S LOVELY FLOWER GARDEN. AS WE ARE RAISED FROM THE DUST, SO SHALL WE RETURN TO IT. REST IN PEACE SQUARE D!
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« Reply #996 on: January 03, 2017, 01:03:53 PM »
THIS JUST IN! THE SQUARE D BUILD THREAD(S) WILL SOON BE DELETED! THE PROJECT HAS BEEN STALLED FOR SO LONG THAT THE POOR DERELICT SHELL OF A VEHICLE HAS SUCCUMBED TO THE EVERY INCREASING WEIGHT OF THE VILE, DESTRUCTIVE DUST THAT "BIG D" HAS ALLOWED TO BUILD UPON HER POOR NEGLECTED BODY. SHE HAS BEEN REDUCED TO HER BASE ELEMENTS, AND RUMOR HAS IT, WILL BE USED AS MULCH FOR MRS. D'S LOVELY FLOWER GARDEN. AS WE ARE RAISED FROM THE DUST, SO SHALL WE RETURN TO IT. REST IN PEACE SQUARE D!
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« Reply #997 on: January 03, 2017, 01:05:11 PM »
^^^See how I got him right there ^^^^^
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« Reply #998 on: January 03, 2017, 01:23:19 PM »
I like what you did there.  :beercheers: :facepalm: :popcorn: :knucklehead:

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« Reply #999 on: January 03, 2017, 02:07:48 PM »
I don't get it lol


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