Author Topic: SquareD Part 5: The build continues and gets more aggressive (Read 423385 times)

Flyin6 · « **Reply #800 on:** January 29, 2015, 06:35:41 PM »

And now the battery tray fits in its factory location with room to spare

Flyin6 · « **Reply #801 on:** January 29, 2015, 06:37:19 PM »

The tray got the cleaning and coating treatment using corrosion resistant truck bed liner

Flyin6 · « **Reply #802 on:** January 29, 2015, 06:39:03 PM »

Here is the actual engine harness. Almost none of it will be used since none of the VE pump items exist on a P-Pump engine

Flyin6 · « **Reply #803 on:** January 29, 2015, 06:40:24 PM »

With that harness loosely installed I ran out of time for this, the 211th build day on SquareD

Nate · « **Reply #804 on:** January 29, 2015, 07:39:13 PM »

so your gonna run the water/alcohol mixture for the washer fluid?

JR · « **Reply #805 on:** January 29, 2015, 09:55:18 PM »

For gosh sakes, start it up!!!!!!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #806 on:** January 30, 2015, 08:15:49 AM »

Quote from: nmeyer414 on January 29, 2015, 07:39:13 PM

so your gonna run the water/alcohol mixture for the washer fluid?

Same stuff!
Washer fluid is a mixture of 50% Ethanol alcohol and 50% denatured water
Specialized H2O fluid such as "Boost Juice" is 51% Alcohol/49% H2O

most people just run the blue washer fluid in their boost systems!

So sure it's fine to use the same fluid to make 50-75 more HP and clean the bugs off your windshield while you're charging up a hill with a heavy load!

Cool hugh?

Flyin6 · « **Reply #807 on:** January 30, 2015, 08:17:56 AM »

Quote from: JR on January 29, 2015, 09:55:18 PM

For gosh sakes, start it up!!!!!!

Fuel system incomplete
Wiring harness not in
Power not connected yet
fluids
connections
Filler neck not connected
Main electrical cable not run yet
on and on and on...

BobbyB · « **Reply #808 on:** January 30, 2015, 08:19:46 AM »

Do remember to add a note to add diesel to the tank.. With all the big important time consuming things, I don't wanna see you miss a small yet some what critical step in the Square D story, when it comes to start up time...

Flyin6 · « **Reply #809 on:** January 30, 2015, 08:59:49 AM »

Quote from: BobbyB on January 30, 2015, 08:19:46 AM

Do remember to add a note to diesel to the tank.. With all the big important time consuming things, I don't wanna see you miss a small yet some what critical step in the Square D story, when it comes to start up time...

Copy that

With all I have going on with this truck, I'm surprised I remembered to bolt the doors back on!

BobbyB · « **Reply #810 on:** January 30, 2015, 09:40:48 AM »

Quote from: Flyin6 on January 30, 2015, 08:59:49 AM

With all I have going on with this truck, I'm surprised I remembered to bolt the doors back on!

Did you FLY with doors?

I rest my case...

Flyin6 · « **Reply #811 on:** January 30, 2015, 12:21:12 PM »

No, we didn't!

JR · « **Reply #812 on:** January 30, 2015, 02:30:40 PM »

Is that your bird or just a file pic??

BobbyB · « **Reply #813 on:** January 30, 2015, 02:39:53 PM »

Quote from: Flyin6 on January 30, 2015, 12:21:12 PM

No, we didn't!

I know, but see, it proves doors aren't really useful on D2.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #814 on:** January 30, 2015, 10:07:59 PM »

Quote from: JR on January 30, 2015, 02:30:40 PM

Is that your bird or just a file pic??

That is a pic I took of Chalk-2 the bird flying beside me. I was in the same kind of ship, Super-Huey-2

Flyin6 · « **Reply #815 on:** January 30, 2015, 10:11:53 PM »

Well, lots of tedious work today, but it won't look like a lot of progress.

The propensity of today's work was in the wiring harness and sorting all that out.

I am now having to carefully take the old harness apart to check everything, to delete no longer used wires and generally clean things up. Additionally I have to run all sorts of new wires to things that are going to be, that never were in gen 1 harnesses.

Let's start with that battery tray. It was dry so I thought I'd install that first

Flyin6 · « **Reply #816 on:** January 30, 2015, 10:13:01 PM »

For now it is only mounted to the core support. It will need a fender and wheel well to get fully bolted in place

Flyin6 · « **Reply #817 on:** January 30, 2015, 10:14:09 PM »

Next up I test fitted the wheel wells. The drivers side went right on with no mods

Flyin6 · « **Reply #818 on:** January 30, 2015, 10:16:02 PM »

The passenger side needed relief cuts for the intercooler piping and for the shock mount

Flyin6 · « **Reply #819 on:** January 30, 2015, 10:20:05 PM »

The wheel wells will need to be sanded, stripped, painted and coated with bed liner on the bottom side before they are ready to reinstall. That is a couple day process, so I thought I'd get them going while I finish the wiring harness

You may recall I was considering trying to use the factory fuel filter since it had a hater detector. Well, I tried about everything I could think of to add it in, but in the end it simply will not fit, so I scrapped that idea

Flyin6 · « **Reply #820 on:** January 30, 2015, 10:21:31 PM »

Back to the wiring harness, all of these connectors will no longer be used

Flyin6 · « **Reply #821 on:** January 30, 2015, 10:22:53 PM »

After cleaning the harness and adding new wiring, this is what I currently have:

It will be rewrapped with some sort of a loom to make it all purdy, but for now it's all nekid and exposed

WHile I was in the area, I pulled the stock fuel pump off. It only has 5/16" fuel line at best and probably has restrictions in that. With no way to enlarge the lines to or from it, I am eliminating it

Flyin6 · « **Reply #822 on:** January 30, 2015, 10:25:43 PM »

A small block Chevy fuel pump block off did the trick!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #823 on:** January 30, 2015, 10:28:06 PM »

A few more wires pulled along with the aft battery positive cable and it was time to wrap up the day. Tonight was Dad's day with the boys. We went to see an awful movie, "Almanac" and now I feel dumber than I did before the movie!

BobbyB · « **Reply #824 on:** January 31, 2015, 09:01:06 AM »

It's early, and I haven't had my coffee yet, but did you just remove the fuel pump and NOT replace it with another one, a better one? Or is that a step you haven't posted yet?

cudakidd53 · « **Reply #825 on:** January 31, 2015, 09:10:03 AM »

Its a new "Green Initiative" Bobby- zero carbon foot print! ;)

Flyin6 · « **Reply #826 on:** January 31, 2015, 09:52:46 AM »

Quote from: BobbyB on January 31, 2015, 09:01:06 AM

It's early, and I haven't had my coffee yet, but did you just remove the fuel pump and NOT replace it with another one, a better one? Or is that a step you haven't posted yet?

I did remove it, but there is not a better mechanical pump that fits there

So I plan to add two electrical lift pumps wired in parallel with one way check valves.

Lemme splain

Ya see electrical pumps do fail, run out of juice so's to speek

So it I bring the main supply line into a "Y" then each branch to a separate pump assembly then either one could supply the fuel to the engine. And by placing a one way check valve on each pump's outlet, then fuel could only move out, to the engine. So if one pump was running and the other off, which will be the normal configuration, then it would provide full pressure (about 10 psi) through a large supply line up to the motor.

And dat is what I'm gonna' do!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #827 on:** January 31, 2015, 09:53:48 AM »

Quote from: cudakidd53 on January 31, 2015, 09:10:03 AM

Its a new "Green Initiative" Bobby- zero carbon foot print! ;)

Why are we so against carbon anyway?

Heck we're made out of the stuff!

And that's why we Kentuckians are so right with the earth.

We mine coal...Coal is carbon...then we get it all over things and ourselves, making us one with the world!

BobbyB · « **Reply #828 on:** January 31, 2015, 10:35:48 AM »

Quote from: cudakidd53 on January 31, 2015, 09:10:03 AM

Its a new "Green Initiative" Bobby- zero carbon foot print! ;)

Ah well that makes sense. lol

Quote from: Flyin6 on January 31, 2015, 09:52:46 AM

I did remove it, but there is not a better mechanical pump that fits there

So I plan to add two electrical lift pumps wired in parallel with one way check valves.

Lemme splain

Ya see electrical pumps do fail, run out of juice so's to speek

So it I bring the main supply line into a "Y" then each branch to a separate pump assembly then either one could supply the fuel to the engine. And by placing a one way check valve on each pump's outlet, then fuel could only move out, to the engine. So if one pump was running and the other off, which will be the normal configuration, then it would provide full pressure (about 10 psi) through a large supply line up to the motor.

And dat is what I'm gonna' do!

Ah I see.

Nate · « **Reply #829 on:** January 31, 2015, 11:23:21 AM »

2 electrical pumps, got it. one feed line splitting into a "Y", got it.

2 questions.

1. how are the electric pumps going to be powered, ignition switch, toggle switch, are they both going to be powered at the same time, or is one of them going to be a back up?

2. if both pumps are going to be running at the same time, is there a concern that one or both wont get enough fuel through the 1 feed line?

Higher Caliber · « **Reply #830 on:** January 31, 2015, 11:59:44 AM »

Im concerned that this SBC fuel pump delete mod is going to be a problem! Is that CHROME??

What if haj blows your fender well off in a fire fight and there you are chugging along in stealth mode at a thousand meters down range of some north korean long gunner and he catches a glint off of that shiny piece of hardware??

Seems we need to mitigate the risk associated with all of that hippy chrome you are using! ;) ;)

Nate · « **Reply #831 on:** January 31, 2015, 12:50:44 PM »

Quote from: Higher Caliber on January 31, 2015, 11:59:44 AM

Im concerned that this SBC fuel pump delete mod is going to be a problem! Is that CHROME??

What if haj blows your fender well off in a fire fight and there you are chugging along in stealth mode at a thousand meters down range of some north korean long gunner and he catches a glint off of that shiny piece of hardware??

Seems we need to mitigate the risk associated with all of that hippy chrome you are using! ;) ;)

I am with yah on this one HC. I do remember somebody saying that chrome was a no go in his book, and yet here we are????

BobbyB · « **Reply #832 on:** January 31, 2015, 01:42:31 PM »

Quote from: Higher Caliber on January 31, 2015, 11:59:44 AM

Im concerned that this SBC fuel pump delete mod is going to be a problem! Is that CHROME??

What if haj blows your fender well off in a fire fight and there you are chugging along in stealth mode at a thousand meters down range of some north korean long gunner and he catches a glint off of that shiny piece of hardware??

Seems we need to mitigate the risk associated with all of that hippy chrome you are using! ;) ;)

I agree. Too shiny! It needs a complete teardown and rebuild! That little spot ruins the low observable scheme you'd been striving for.

You can't argue with the Grunts on this.. you know we're S-M-R-T on this stuff.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #833 on:** January 31, 2015, 06:41:26 PM »

Hmmmm

Flyin6 · « **Reply #834 on:** January 31, 2015, 06:42:50 PM »

Quote from: nmeyer414 on January 31, 2015, 11:23:21 AM

2 electrical pumps, got it. one feed line splitting into a "Y", got it.

2 questions.

1. how are the electric pumps going to be powered, ignition switch, toggle switch, are they both going to be powered at the same time, or is one of them going to be a back up?

2. if both pumps are going to be running at the same time, is there a concern that one or both wont get enough fuel through the 1 feed line?

I'll run the primary through the hot ignition bus so it's on when the key is on

The back up pump will be on a toggle or a push button

JR · « **Reply #835 on:** February 02, 2015, 04:57:40 PM »

I use a Kennedy pump on mine for a lift pump, could be nice as your backup. Not alot of psi for a single (5-7) but has full bypass when not in use.

I agree, the only flashy part on SD should be muzzle flash,,,,,,,,,,,,

Flyin6 · « **Reply #836 on:** February 02, 2015, 06:01:51 PM »

Quote from: JR on February 02, 2015, 04:57:40 PM

I agree, the only flashy part on SD should be muzzle flash,,,,,,,,,,,,

Concur

Flyin6 · « **Reply #837 on:** February 02, 2015, 06:06:07 PM »

OK got a bit more done.

I am awaiting parts from Summit Racing to button up the wiring harness, hook up the transmission lines, and a couple other details.

But there is always plenty to get done so the big project for the day was to get the fuel shutoff in, and that got done.

First I finally got my grub snatchers on the proper sized 1/2" hardware so I bolted in the front shocks completing that project. Believe it or not, I had to drill the mounts since all that moved a tad during welding, and to do that I had to unbolt and reinstall things. You know the old axiom: You have to do work to be able to do work!

So here are the shocks in finally!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #838 on:** February 02, 2015, 06:07:13 PM »

Then I soldered the end onto the hot battery cable from the aft battery

Flyin6 · « **Reply #839 on:** February 02, 2015, 06:10:09 PM »

OK, before the fuel shutoff cable goes in, I need to add some sort of bulkhead over that big hole in the firewall. So I made up a plate with a silicone rubber inner piece which I punched some holes into to route things both present and future

Flyin6 · « **Reply #840 on:** February 02, 2015, 06:10:51 PM »

It goes here:

Flyin6 · « **Reply #841 on:** February 02, 2015, 06:11:58 PM »

Here's the rather thick piece of silicon rubber I will be using as a pass-through in that hole

Flyin6 · « **Reply #842 on:** February 02, 2015, 06:13:01 PM »

It fits like this:

Flyin6 · « **Reply #843 on:** February 02, 2015, 06:14:29 PM »

Next this heavy duty aircraft cable system will be going in to shut off the engine manually and to heck with all that electrical jazz

Flyin6 · « **Reply #844 on:** February 02, 2015, 06:15:25 PM »

Here's the firewall side of things

Flyin6 · « **Reply #845 on:** February 02, 2015, 06:17:24 PM »

I mounted it next to the light switch. Push-in to shutoff, pull put to start and run the engine

Flyin6 · « **Reply #846 on:** February 02, 2015, 06:18:59 PM »

I'll use this cable end to attach the cable to the fuel control lever

Flyin6 · « **Reply #847 on:** February 02, 2015, 06:20:41 PM »

I'm just using the stock solenoid mount as the base for my cable mount, starting with this plate

Flyin6 · « **Reply #848 on:** February 02, 2015, 06:22:38 PM »

Adding a simple upright will provide the place to clamp the cable to.

Then it got a couple coats of paint

Flyin6 · « **Reply #849 on:** February 02, 2015, 06:23:37 PM »

And that wraps up build day 213