Look at this deal:


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I heard all sorts of good things about this round when I was in Afghanistan. It had drill like qualities and was ab le to defeat most of the carrier plates around at the time. Am I still interested in it? Could one sustain oneself in ammunition for something designed to fire a lot of rounds?
and
22 rounds per magazine!

This may be popping up on the radar

OK as is with everything I have ever owned, even a few things I didn't actually own, I tend to change up things rather early in the life of the "whatever."

I do not like these skinny little roller disc tires that came stock on my 3500 Ram.

Stock size is 235/80-R17 mounted on 6" wide factory aluminum and steel wheels.

After reading the forums some, I see that the biggest tire I can fit onto that wheel and not rub in the back is a 255/80 R17. The nice thing about that is the 255 is 33.1" in diameter and comes in the BFG KO2 which is the tire I want.

But that looks kinda of small and I am starting with a pretty deep 4.10 gear and the powerful HO engine making a stock 1050 ft/lbs.

The forums advise tires larger in diameter and require the use of a 1.5" or 2" spacer for the outboard rear wheels. Not so sure if I am a fan of that.

The limiting factor seems to be with the 6" wide factory wheels which will certainly not allow a much wider tire to properly spread out.

I am looking for some ideas about which direction to go. I will be adding the Carli to level it up and get the good shocks so I may even have more wheel well clearance although the 255/80 will not interfere with anything on a dually

Ideas?

I was just given a new Marlin model 1895 in 45-70 for my birthday which is coming up in a couple weeks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWJ7p7O0Z2M

We just took delivery of a new 2024 Palamino 3210 slide in truck camper!

Now that we have purchased our Palamino HS-2902 camper I am busy prepping the truck to carry it.

I think I have a good start already. First of all the camper is designed for a 6.5'-8.0' bed length. Its center of gravity is some 5" forward of the rear axle.

Secondly, the truck is a Ram 3500 with a GVWR of 11,800, about a thousand more than some other Ram 3500s.

I have already replaced the factory shocks with Fox HD units. The truck is leveled with 2.5" Carli suspension front springs and a 1" rear block. I also opted to relocate the lower control arms to keep a good caster number, and in fact, I am aligned to factory specs in the middle of the adjustment range. (Great job Carli Suspension!)

I opted for 37" tires because I did want some limited off-road capability, but on the downside, it raised the truck nearly 2". To offset that, I purchased Icon wheels that space the tires 2+ inches further out into the wheel well. Whereas before the tires sat well inside the fenders, now the tires are nearly flush with the fender. That gave the vehicle a more planted and stable feel, which will help with carrying a lot of weight way up high.

Finally, I have already installed a set of 5,000lb capacity airbags for when I carry trailers which are weighing more than 6K-7K. I do not want any squat, and with the airbags, I don't get any.

Next up, I purchased a set of Torque-Lift, Stable-load units. These clever mechanical devices can be quickly turned to engage the primary spring pack with the overload spring. This alone would vastly reduce squat, but reading about the subject, I can see many others reporting great results. I have used these before on my 2500 Duramax truck and indeed they made my truck corner nearly flat on these windy Kentucky roads.

One of the other huge benefits of these devices is that they reduce body roll. Going around a corner with a ton and a half perched at windshield level can get spicy, but devices such as this will really tame the ride.

Coming right up, but not quite yet, I plan to install a 1 1/2" rear sway bar. I think with all that going on, I will have the camper/truck handling as good as it possibly could.

The set on the Chevy were made of mild steel and rusted and corrouded. This time they offer Stainless steel units and I ordered those.

"Everything is habit-forming, so make sure what you do is what you want to be doing."

- Wilt Chamberlain

I pulled the trigger and purchased one of the first 2024 Palomino slide-in truck Camper.

We purchased a Back Pack max series HS 2902 unit which features a slide for additional interior space.

Gentlemen.
Last year I discussed the cost of this site going forward.
We get charged annually for being hosted by A Small Orange.

This year the cost to Renew is $963 + $33 or $996

You all get to decide if the site continues. Anyone who feels led to donate to keep us alive may do so using the donation tab or Venmo or PayPal. I will collect funds like I have in the past. If we make it to the $996, then Real Man continues. If we fail to reach the minimum threshold, then I will simply return the money you donated and at some point, afterward, A small Orange will simply turn off the site.

So, there it is. And this is really sort of a test. You see I have been praying during these 100 days of prayer for the Lord to use this place for his work, and if this site was not about furthering the kingdom of heaven in some way, God would destroy it.

I am interested to see if we really are serving Heaven or just ourselves. I feel that we try to do a good thing here, but I could be wrong. We will soon find out.

Blessings,

Don

I owned one back in the 1980's and it was crude at best, but I restored it and used it some mounted on a Ford F250 of mine.

Now I think I want another one.

Looking at our more adventuresome travel as of late, and the prospect of having to sleep in a rooftop tent for more than 30 consecutive days, well...

Kat and I are now doing four or more trips a year. And oddly enough, I am ripening right along. Now, I can climb up and down ladders but I can't ever remember wanting to seek to be miserable. Sort of reminds me of my (many) Armee days when I lived with near-zero support. Yea, well, I didn't like it then and I still don't.

We are doing the Zion National Park trip in a bit more than a month in a Jeep, that's handled. But, for the Wyoming/Montana trip in the summer, well that is a long one. It would be so much nicer in some sort of backpack truck camper perched on my Ram 3500.

I started thinking about this because next year we are driving to the Arctic Ocean. Up the Alcan spending a lot of time in the Canada, then back down the coast of AK, onto a ferry to Seattle, then probably just ship the truck home from there. Anyway, I was going to buy a truck camper for that one. Either that or put a V8 into the Gladiator and install a more substantial backpack camper on it.

I think the smartest thing to do is to keep the Jeep in a roof tent configuration and buy a truck camper

Let the discussion begin:

https://www.prageru.com/video/mesha-mainor-i-switched-parties-because-of-my-stance-on-choice?utm_source=Iterable&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=campaign_9118956

This is going to hurt
The undoing or the American Empire...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/egypt-has-officially-permanently-ditched-the-us-dollar/ar-BB1in7m8?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ASTS&cvid=5219c8c249d74bdabd3a6ce8fe212c75&ei=18

I continue to refine the capability of my Jeep Gladiator (JT)

Last year we did two big trips in the thing to five different locations and a dozen states.

It was the first time we used the thing to both travel in and live out of. The system we used was to mount a frig in the back seat, then stack things in plastic tubs. It was a workable system but akward at best. You would have to essentially, download the back end of the truck to get to sleeping bags in one packer, a stove in another, and camp tools in yet another.

It worked, but that was the last time I planned to do it that way. This time I will build two large multi-level and compartment drawers. I will mount the Lithium atop the flat deck and give myself a slide out kitchen setup. I will keep clothing and sleeping gear in the back seat area and everything else in those drawers or in one or two bins which will be atop the new platform.

I am creating a 13" deep drawer with a frame constructed of 3/4" plywood.

I will pay close attention to weight, so I will be "Ghosting" a lot of the panels and using thinner materials where I can. I will lose the weight of the bins but pick up the weight from the drawer system.

So here we go, starting with some ACX 3/4" pine plywood.

Nuff said!

I decided my bear country carry will be the venerable Smith and Wesson 629, .44 Magnum 6"-barrel revolver.

I have a lot of history with this weapon. I purchased a brand new 629 in the Rod and Gun Club in Illeshiem, Germany in 1976, my first handgun purchase. Being a soldier in my early 20's I liked everything about it. I would shoot it on weekends. Later after becoming a pilot and returning to Germany in 1980, I became a "Border Pilot," responsible for patrolling the east German border daily in my Kiowa scout helicopter. I carried that same 629 under my left arm on a shoulder rig for three years there. The commanding General who selected me to be his personal "Border" pilot. used to ask over the intercom, "Hey chief, hand me that hog's head." He liked the idea that his pilot carried a "Dirty Harry" .44 mag. It was all a part of the image the man wanted.

I got into reloading and shoved many super-powerful loads down that fire-breathing barrel. When I would go to the range with some German friends, who don't know squat about guns, that .44 always accompanied us. I sold it when I got into Special Operations like a bonehead and sorely regret ever doing that. Well, I'm going to set things right and get another one.

I carried that gun on range days and some deer hunts in my western rig it has long since disappeared. So, I am about to purchase another rig for it. I'm posting this to see if anyone has any good suggestions.

I have found some I really like on Ebay. I want that drop leg design, 2.5" belt width. hammer loop and a bunch of cartridge loops. I want smooth leather on the inside but being a stainless weapon am not concerned with holster rash. I will wear it around camp and hiking on my coming NW adventures into bear country.

LESSONS IN LEADERSHIP: From a Janitor

By Colonel James E. Moschgat, Commander of the 12th Operations Group, 12th Flying Training Wing, Randolph Air Force Base, Texas
William “Bill” Crawford certainly was an unimpressive figure, one you could easily overlook during a hectic day at the U.S. Air Force Academy. Mr. Crawford, as most of us referred to him back in the late 1970s, was our squadron janitor.

While we cadets busied ourselves preparing for academic exams, athletic events, Saturday morning parades and room inspections, or never-ending leadership classes, Bill quietly moved about the squadron mopping and buffing floors, emptying trash cans, cleaning toilets, or just tidying up the mess 100 college-age kids can leave in a dormitory. Sadly, and for many years, few of us gave him much notice, rendering little more than a passing nod or throwing a curt, “G’morning!” in his direction as we hurried off to our daily duties.

Why? Perhaps it was because of the way he did his job-he always kept the squadron area spotlessly clean, even the toilets and showers gleamed. Frankly, he did his job so well, none of us had to notice or get involved. After all, cleaning toilets was his job, not ours. Maybe it was is physical appearance that made him disappear into the background. Bill didn’t move very quickly and, in fact, you could say he even shuffled a bit, as if he suffered from some sort of injury. His gray hair and wrinkled face made him appear ancient to a group of young cadets. And his crooked smile, well, it looked a little funny. Face it, Bill was an old man working in a young person’s world. What did he have to offer us on a personal level?

Finally, maybe it was Mr. Crawford’s personality that rendered him almost invisible to the young people around him. Bill was shy, almost painfully so. He seldom spoke to a cadet unless they addressed him first, and that didn’t happen very often. Our janitor always buried himself in his work, moving about with stooped shoulders, a quiet gait, and an averted gaze. If he noticed the hustle and bustle of cadet life around him, it was hard to tell. So, for whatever reason, Bill blended into the woodwork and became just another fixture around the squadron. The Academy, one of our nation’s premier leadership laboratories, kept us busy from dawn till dusk. And Mr. Crawford...well, he was just a janitor.

That changed one fall Saturday afternoon in 1976. I was reading a book about World War II and the tough Allied ground campaign in Italy, when I stumbled across an incredible story. On September 13, 1943, a Private William Crawford from Colorado, assigned to the 36th Infantry Division, had been involved in some bloody fighting on Hill 424 near Altavilla, Italy. The words on the page leapt out at me: “in the face of intense and overwhelming hostile fire... with no regard for personal safety... on his own initiative, Private Crawford single-handedly attacked fortified enemy positions.” It continued, “for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at risk of life above and beyond the call of duty, the President of the United States...”

“Holy cow,” I said to my roommate, “you’re not going to believe this, but I think our janitor is a Medal of Honor winner.” We all knew Mr. Crawford was a WWII Army vet, but that didn’t keep my friend from looking at me as if I was some sort of alien being. Nonetheless, we couldn’t wait to ask Bill about the story on Monday. We met Mr. Crawford bright and early Monday and showed him the page in question from the book, anticipation and doubt in our faces. He starred at it for a few silent moments and then quietly uttered something like, “Yep, that’s me.”

Mouths agape, my roommate and I looked at one another, then at the book, and quickly back at our janitor. Almost at once we both stuttered, “Why didn’t you ever tell us about it?” He slowly replied after some thought, “That was one day in my life and it happened a long time ago.”
I guess we were all at a loss for words after that. We had to hurry off to class and Bill, well, he had chores to attend to. However, after that brief exchange, things were never again the same around our squadron. Word spread like wildfire among the cadets that we had a hero in our midst-Mr. Crawford, our janitor, had won the Medal! Cadets who had once passed by Bill with hardly a glance, now greeted him with a smile and a respectful, “Good morning, Mr. Crawford.”

Those who had before left a mess for the “janitor” to clean up started taking it upon themselves to put things in order. Most cadets routinely stopped to talk to Bill throughout the day and we even began inviting him to our formal squadron functions. He’d show up dressed in a conservative dark suit and quietly talk to those who approached him, the only sign of his heroics being a simple blue, star-spangled lapel pin.

Almost overnight, Bill went from being a simple fixture in our squadron to one of our teammates. Mr. Crawford changed too, but you had to look closely to notice the difference. After that fall day in 1976, he seemed to move with more purpose, his shoulders didn’t seem to be as stooped, he met our greetings with a direct gaze and a stronger “good morning” in return, and he flashed his crooked smile more often. The squadron gleamed as always, but everyone now seemed to notice it more. Bill even got to know most of us by our first names, something that didn’t happen often at the Academy. While no one ever formally acknowledged the change, I think we became Bill’s cadets and his squadron.

As often happens in life, events sweep us away from those in our past. The last time I saw Bill was on graduation day in June 1977. As I walked out of the squadron for the last time, he shook my hand and simply said, “Good luck, young man.” With that, I embarked on a career that has been truly lucky and blessed. Mr. Crawford continued to work at the Academy and eventually retired in his native Colorado where he resides today, one of four Medal of Honor winners living in a small town.

A wise person once said, “It’s not life that’s important, but those you meet along the way that make the difference.” Bill was one who made a difference for me. While I haven’t seen Mr. Crawford in over twenty years, he’d probably be surprised to know I think of him often. Bill Crawford, our janitor, taught me many valuable, unforgettable leadership lessons. Here are ten I’d like to share with you.

1. Be Cautious of Labels. Labels you place on people may define your relationship to them and bound their potential. Sadly, and for a long time, we labeled Bill as just a janitor, but he was so much more. Therefore, be cautious of a leader who callously says, “Hey, he’s just an Airman.” Likewise, don’t tolerate the O-1, who says, “I can’t do that, I’m just a lieutenant.”

2. Everyone Deserves Respect. Because we hung the “janitor” label on Mr. Crawford, we often wrongly treated him with less respect than others around us. He deserved much more, and not just because he was a Medal of Honor winner. Bill deserved respect because he was a janitor, walked among us, and was a part of our team.

3. Courtesy Makes a Difference. Be courteous to all around you, regardless of rank or position. Military customs, as well as common courtesies, help bond a team. When our daily words to Mr. Crawford turned from perfunctory “hellos” to heartfelt greetings, his demeanor and personality outwardly changed. It made a difference for all of us.

4. Take Time to Know Your People. Life in the military is hectic, but that’s no excuse for not knowing the people you work for and with. For years a hero walked among us at the Academy and we never knew it. Who are the heroes that walk in your midst?
5. Anyone Can Be a Hero. Mr. Crawford certainly didn’t fit anyone’s standard definition of a hero. Moreover, he was just a private on the day he won his Medal. Don’t sell your people short, for any one of them may be the hero who rises to the occasion when duty calls. On the other hand, it’s easy to turn to your proven performers when the chips are down, but don’t ignore the rest of the team. Today’s rookie could and should be tomorrow’s superstar.

6. Leaders Should Be Humble. Most modern day heroes and some leaders are anything but humble, especially if you calibrate your “hero meter” on today’s athletic fields. End zone celebrations and self-aggrandizement are what we’ve come to expect from sports greats. Not Mr. Crawford-he was too busy working to celebrate his past heroics. Leaders would be well-served to do the same.
7. Life Won’t Always Hand You What You Think You Deserve. We in the military work hard and, dang it, we deserve recognition, right? However, sometimes you just have to persevere, even when accolades don’t come your way. Perhaps you weren’t nominated for junior officer or airman of the quarter as you thought you should - don’t let that stop you.

8. Don’t pursue glory; pursue excellence. Private Bill Crawford didn’t pursue glory; he did his duty and then swept floors for a living. No job is beneath a Leader. If Bill Crawford, a Medal of Honor winner, could clean latrines and smile, is there a job beneath your dignity? Think about it.

9. Pursue Excellence. No matter what task life hands you, do it well. Dr. Martin Luther King said, “If life makes you a street sweeper, be the best street sweeper you can be.” Mr. Crawford modeled that philosophy and helped make our dormitory area a home.

10. Life is a Leadership Laboratory. All too often we look to some school or PME class to teach us about leadership when, in fact, life is a leadership laboratory. Those you meet everyday will teach you enduring lessons if you just take time to stop, look and listen. I spent four years at the Air Force Academy, took dozens of classes, read hundreds of books, and met thousands of great people. I gleaned leadership skills from all of them, but one of the people I remember most is Mr. Bill Crawford and the lessons he unknowingly taught. Don’t miss your opportunity to learn.

Bill Crawford was a janitor. However, he was also a teacher, friend, role model and one great American hero. Thanks, Mr. Crawford, for some valuable leadership lessons.

Dale Pyeatt, Executive Director of the National Guard Association of Texas, comments: And now, for the “rest of the story”: Pvt William John Crawford was a platoon scout for 3rd Platoon of Company L 1 42nd Regiment 36th Division (Texas National Guard) and won the Medal Of Honor for his actions on Hill 424, just 4 days after the invasion at Salerno.

On Hill 424, Pvt Crawford took out 3 enemy machine guns before darkness fell, halting the platoon’s advance. Pvt Crawford could not be found and was assumed dead. The request for his MOH was quickly approved. Major General Terry Allen presented the posthumous MOH to Bill Crawford’s father, George, on 11 May 1944 in Camp (now Fort) Carson, near Pueblo. Nearly two months after that, it was learned that Pvt Crawford was alive in a POW camp in Germany. During his captivity, a German guard clubbed him with his rifle. Bill overpowered him, took the rifle away, and beat the guard unconscious. A German doctor’s testimony saved him from severe punishment, perhaps death. To stay ahead of the advancing Russian army, the prisoners were marched 500 miles in 52 days in the middle of the German winter, subsisting on one potato a day. An allied tank column liberated the camp in the spring of 1945, and Pvt Crawford took his first hot shower in 18 months on VE Day. Pvt Crawford stayed in the army before retiring as a MSG and becoming a janitor. In 1984, President Ronald Reagan officially presented the MOH to Bill Crawford.

William Crawford passed away in 2000. He is the only U.S. Army veteran and sole Medal of Honor winner to be buried in the cemetery of the U.S. Air Force Academy.

I have started to modify (Improve) my Gladiator's configuration for this year's upcoming travels.

So far we have a trip in April that, unfortunately, we will be renting a Jeep out of Vegas for a south-western Utah run around the canyon and Zion.

But later on in July, we have a big one planned across the northern states to Montana, ending up in Wyoming for some camping and off-roading. We want to take in a bunch of the sights like the petroglyph Indian carvings, ghost towns, old gold mining camps, and some trout fishing in the green river. Oh, and sometime in Yellowstone too!

So based on last year's trip, I know that going to a somewhat modular system of action packer tubs made for an easier arrangement in the bed. The back seat which started with the frig, the air pump, and the inflation kit, ended up with clothes, cosmetics, popcorn, and most things one could imagine scattered about. I did sequester room every day for sleeping bags and pillows, but they were competing for room.

The bed had the battery box, a toolbox, a tub of my clothes, and another for her. I had a "Camping stuff tub and another for cold weather clothing and overload stuff. On top of all that was a couple of chairs, the tent annex, and raw boxes of stuff she picked up.

I did not like that I had to move things to get to other things. I did not like how although stuff started upright, it ended up in all manner of strange angles due to jostling and bumps on the trail.

So, based on my dislikes, I am looking at the Gladiator "Decked" system." It will give me one full-depth drawer spanning wheel well to wheel well. It also has four "Cubbies" in front and the back of the wheel wells for things. The drawer is 12" deep and also comes with a bunch of plastic boxes to further organize and sort the space. It can carry an additional 1000 ponds top side and has tie-down rings. I would place the battery on top of it all where it is currently physically located. That would leave me a smooth/flat surface to slide the two his/her clothes bins onto and the camp chairs.

The downside is the thing costs around $1500 and weighs 177 pounds.

I am no friend of weight, but I can go to another, better more sorted Lithium battery saving me 40 pounds and I can pull off the rear tow hitch netting me something around 30 more. I might get creative and find something else to strip to keep the weight down, but I am looking at a minimum of 70 pounds more. Maybe that is not too bad given the offset in the utility I will gain.

Decked anyone? Does anyone have one of the latest generation?

I moved a growing gun discussion here from a truck build thread to keep it separate:

Interestingly, most of the military uses the Mossy

But when I attended the Blackwater weeks-long shooting course (twice) they always had a rack with Remy 870's and Mossberg 500's. I was wondering who ran the Remy 870 and I theorized that a lot of police and swat ran those.
I grew up with a Winchester-modeled "Ted Williams" 12-gage pump. Long barrel, poly choke, and the 870-style safety. When I got into tactical shotgunning in the 160th, the ST6 guys gave me a Police Persuader, 20" Mossberg 500. I still have it today. I carried that on several tactical real-world missions in a couple of hostilities each. A crew chief broke the stock when he saw it flopping around in the back of the aircraft tossed it on top of a pile of bags and ran a cargo strap over it. When he cranked down the strap it leveraged the stock and broke it. Therefore, I run a Car-15 style collapsible rear stock. But the gun runs fine to this day. Is the new almost Ranger's favorite gun.

But I had a Saiga 12 gauge built for me to sling over the seat for my Kandahar fun days. I had that or a real Ruskey AK-47 banging around back there. Now. cradled in the seat armor almost touching me was a Bushmaster or Colt M4 with the three-round burst thingy. That Saiga runs with only the 20-round drum (or is it 25???). It has NEVER jammed or failed to go bang. I run 2 3/4 00 buckshot exclusively in it. Since it has a gas system it might get janky with some light trap and skeet loads. In my truck, I theoretically carry a 930 Mossy with some mods. The reason is that as a result of most (helo) crashes I have been in or seen you usually come out of the wreckage minus one or more functioning limbs. So I know that I can shoot that 930 one-handed just fine for all 8 rounds. If I need more, I suppose, I am all prayed up, and with heavy reliance on the grace of my creator, ready to take the next step into the bright light.

Love the discussion and love a pump. Just have seen the value of a good running automatic and I trust mine.

Yesterday I posed the question about the onset of World War 3...Is it here, or close at hand?

Today I would pose the question, is this Texas revolt against President Biden's policy for an open border and the Supreme Court's decision to essentially open the concertina wire growing? Are we seeing the first signs of the United States begin to tear itself apart? Now some 25 governors sign a letter stating they agree with the Texas governor's stance in defying the Federal government.

Washington is hinting at nationalizing the Texas National Guard. That in itself would be huge. But what if the Texas National Guard sided with Govenor Abbot? Would that constitute treason? Would this be the start of Texas succeeding from the United States?

What say yee?

I pose the question for discussion. Are we approaching another world war?

The war in the Ukraine rages

The war in Gaza is continuing.

Iranian proxy armies attack both Israel and the international community

Houthi rebels in Yemen are brazenly taunting the US, even firing on our ships.

Muslim terror groups based mostly in Iraq have now attacked American bases and forces over 100 times even launching a ballistic missile attack on our airbase last Saturday.

China, despite a contracting economy, is juxtaposed with respect to Taiwan.

Chinese expansionism in the Pacific particularly against the Philippines is increasing.

British are vocally very much against the regime in Russia.

Sweden now joins the NATO.

Russian defense ministry spokesperson hints and taking back Estonia and invading Finland.

Hostilities between India and Pakistan, both nuclear armed, seem close at hand in the disputed Kashmir area.

Venezuela hints at armed conflict with the US


Seems like the setup for a perfect storm, and some argue that WW3 has already begun.

https://www.evadeaza.ro/games/en/game/imagine_viking

A bit crude, but warriors and warfare is rather obscene. So true, I almost couldn't agree more, although my love for Jesus has tempered the hatred part of the necessary part of war.


Quote from a WWII veteran overhearing someone say that `You can't bomb an ideology.": "The hell you can't, because we did it. These Muslims are no different than the [Imperial] Japanese. The Japs had their suicide bombers too. And we stopped them. What it takes is the resolve and will to use a level of brutality and violence that your generations can't stomach. And until you can, this crap won't stop. It took us on the beaches with bullets, clearing out caves with flame throwers, and men like LeMay burning down their cities, killing people by the tens of thousands. And then it took 2 atom bombs on top of it.  Plus we had to bomb the crap out of German cities to get them to quit fighting. But, if that was what it took to win, we were willing to do it. Until you are willing to do the same...well I hope you enjoy this crap, because it ain't going to stop!" Back then, we had leadership, resolve, resources and determination. Today we're afraid to hurt people's feelings....and worry about which bathroom to piss in!!!

Is this a true statement, what do you think?

This topic has been moved to Message from the Owner.

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