Author Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3 (Read 92045 times)

Flyin6 · « **Reply #400 on:** April 16, 2019, 08:02:46 PM »

And on the cooler, here's how I plan to manage it. The thing will pretty much stay put where it is located. I will place another smaller cooler next to it, another roto-molded thing that will hold drinks so that we are not going into/out of the big guy very often

So I attached a section of hose to the drain and a simple valve to the other end. I'll just drain water every once in awhile and top over with more ice as necessary

Flyin6 · « **Reply #401 on:** April 16, 2019, 08:03:48 PM »

Had to sand down and repaint these three wheels once again. I got too much trash in the paint last time I sprayed. Need to mount the tires, so it's go time

Flyin6 · « **Reply #402 on:** April 16, 2019, 08:05:58 PM »

Then on to front bumper work

First up, I pulled it and welded in the top mounts

Next I made a reinforcing plate for the bumper wings. Basically I am making more of a "C" channel out of the setup Brian came up with.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #403 on:** April 16, 2019, 08:08:11 PM »

After cutting out a section of 10 gage, I shaped it like a quorkie Gurka knife, then fitted and welded it in to the bottom of each wing

Flyin6 · « **Reply #404 on:** April 16, 2019, 08:09:09 PM »

Then I welded in the light mounts

Flyin6 · « **Reply #405 on:** April 16, 2019, 08:59:23 PM »

Next I loosely installed the winch to the mounting plate Brian had made up and slid that onto the four studs welded to the bumper.

Looking at it I removed the allen head screws on the clutch handle end and rotated it 90 degrees, then tightened that down.

We picked it up and tried to mount it to the truck, but it won't fit

The winch or the radiator core support, that's my choices, one or the other, not both

No, I'm not very happy

After all the stuff I had to go through on the rear bumper, to find out my winch bumper cannot mount a winch is not good news.

So I guess I'll just redo things myself again. This time, I'll just send the da__ed thing in and have it coated and get it bolted up to the frame. Then I guess I'll take some of the time I was saving by not having to build the bumpers myself and fabricate up some sort of a cradle to hang the winch in the space just below the radiator and create some way of guiding the rope through the hole so that it doesn't get destroyed, or maybe I'll just go buy the ARB bumper I was going to buy in the beginning.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #406 on:** April 16, 2019, 09:00:52 PM »

So that's where it is at today. Another step forward and another big stumble backward...

stlaser · « **Reply #407 on:** April 16, 2019, 09:36:21 PM »

Had an idea, check your pm box boss.....

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #408 on:** April 16, 2019, 10:54:04 PM »

That sucks about the winch.

Any update on the third member?

What’s on the punch list to finish?

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Flyin6 · « **Reply #409 on:** April 16, 2019, 11:02:50 PM »

Quote from: TexasRedNeck on April 16, 2019, 10:54:04 PM

That sucks about the winch.

Any update on the third member?

What’s on the punch list to finish?

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I'll be able to sort the winch. I'll just create a cradle for it, like Dodge does on that rock crawlin truck of theirs

No word on the axle. At the shop, in queue... Had one or two ahead of me

Punch: Get axle and build up with new parts
Install
Measure for driveshaft (hoping to get lucky)
Paint and install all the new rear suspension stuff
Run rear brake lines, bleed system
Mount remaining tires on wheels
Install wheels
Install F bumper when it is Line-X complete...Thursday???
Install aux battery
Run bat cables, switch, connect both
Build winch cradle/wire in winch
Drop roof top tent on, bolt down
Install new 2-din receiver/better speakers
Drive it, align the front end, drive some more
Pull recording for BlackBear/re-tune and install
Fix whatever i found goobered up
Install some more lighting
Load with kids and hit the road!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #410 on:** April 16, 2019, 11:58:51 PM »

Why can’t you have the winch sit up like normal? Is it a air block issue? Trying to keep it hidden to maintain a low profile?

Cut the top of that bumper open a little wider and mount it in

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wyorunner · « **Reply #411 on:** April 17, 2019, 12:35:00 AM »

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on April 16, 2019, 11:58:51 PM

Why can’t you have the winch sit up like normal? Is it a air block issue? Trying to keep it hidden to maintain a low profile?

Cut the top of that bumper open a little wider and mount it in

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Shrinkage issue during the build caused the up top winch spot to be too small, so he cut and modified and moved, hoping it would all fit. Check out post 15 in the suburban bumper build thread. Was an unaccounted for whoops.

Or atleast that’s how I understood it

Atkinsmatt · « **Reply #412 on:** April 17, 2019, 07:25:54 AM »

Is it possible to remote locate the winch control pack and would that help?

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #413 on:** April 17, 2019, 08:03:24 AM »

Quote from: wyorunner on April 17, 2019, 12:35:00 AM

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on April 16, 2019, 11:58:51 PM
Why can’t you have the winch sit up like normal? Is it a air block issue? Trying to keep it hidden to maintain a low profile?

Cut the top of that bumper open a little wider and mount it in

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Shrinkage issue during the build caused the up top winch spot to be too small, so he cut and modified and moved, hoping it would all fit. Check out post 15 in the suburban bumper build thread. Was an unaccounted for whoops.

Or atleast that’s how I understood it

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cudakidd53 · « **Reply #414 on:** April 17, 2019, 12:18:05 PM »

Two steps forward and one step back - kinda what I'm going through trying to dot all the I 's and cross all the T 's with retirement matters! I've had scabs ripped off old wounds looking for tax docs and other papers from the "practice wife" era. God will create a path forward for us all Don - fret not!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #415 on:** April 17, 2019, 12:21:27 PM »

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on April 16, 2019, 11:58:51 PM

Why can’t you have the winch sit up like normal? Is it a air block issue? Trying to keep it hidden to maintain a low profile?

Cut the top of that bumper open a little wider and mount it in

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It's a depth issue. The bumper does not allow enough space to place anything behind it and still clear the radiator support

Flyin6 · « **Reply #416 on:** April 17, 2019, 12:24:11 PM »

Quote from: cudakidd53 on April 17, 2019, 12:18:05 PM

Two steps forward and one step back - kinda what I'm going through trying to dot all the I 's and cross all the T 's with retirement matters! I've had scabs ripped off old wounds looking for tax docs and other papers from the "practice wife" era. God will create a path forward for us all Don - fret not!

I'm not worried about it.

Its small potatoes, I'll figure it out.

I'm much more concerned about Andrew, the man who contacted me who is dying of cancer. He is the guy in the faith section I posted a thread on. He is in a bad way...

I feel really wrong thinking I have any problems worthy of note in view of his titanic suffering...

Flyin6 · « **Reply #417 on:** April 17, 2019, 12:29:22 PM »

Quote from: Atkinsmatt on April 17, 2019, 07:25:54 AM

Is it possible to remote locate the winch control pack and would that help?

This winch has all that built in. Its a nice design

I have only two choices. Get another bumper,
or
Build a cradle beneath the back of the bumper and make it work

I think door number two is the right approach. I think the bumper is well built, fits well for a non-winch bumper and is here. I'll use it and make the winch work, that's the decision.

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #418 on:** April 17, 2019, 12:35:40 PM »

If this house is torn down I have a house in heaven, not built with hands.

Hopefully Andrew can find comfort

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cudakidd53 · « **Reply #419 on:** April 17, 2019, 12:39:37 PM »

Quote from: Flyin6 on April 17, 2019, 12:24:11 PM

Quote from: cudakidd53 on April 17, 2019, 12:18:05 PM
Two steps forward and one step back - kinda what I'm going through trying to dot all the I 's and cross all the T 's with retirement matters! I've had scabs ripped off old wounds looking for tax docs and other papers from the "practice wife" era. God will create a path forward for us all Don - fret not!
I'm not worried about it.

Its small potatoes, I'll figure it out.

I'm much more concerned about Andrew, the man who contacted me who is dying of cancer. He is the guy in the faith section I posted a thread on. He is in a bad way...

I feel really wrong thinking I have any problems worthy of note in view of his titanic suffering...

Just posted on that - check when you can and relay it to Andrew please -

Flyin6 · « **Reply #420 on:** April 17, 2019, 02:32:39 PM »

Quote from: cudakidd53 on April 17, 2019, 12:39:37 PM

Quote from: Flyin6 on April 17, 2019, 12:24:11 PM
Quote from: cudakidd53 on April 17, 2019, 12:18:05 PM
Two steps forward and one step back - kinda what I'm going through trying to dot all the I 's and cross all the T 's with retirement matters! I've had scabs ripped off old wounds looking for tax docs and other papers from the "practice wife" era. God will create a path forward for us all Don - fret not!
I'm not worried about it.

Its small potatoes, I'll figure it out.

I'm much more concerned about Andrew, the man who contacted me who is dying of cancer. He is the guy in the faith section I posted a thread on. He is in a bad way...

I feel really wrong thinking I have any problems worthy of note in view of his titanic suffering...
Just posted on that - check when you can and relay it to Andrew please -

I sent the link to him, but commo is spotty, he is not well...

Flyin6 · « **Reply #421 on:** April 17, 2019, 09:43:05 PM »

No actual work on the Burb today, but I did get the front bumper dropped off to have sprayed and dropped off the rest of the tires/wheels to be mounted.

Today, my favorite lawn care hobby (Not) spreading mulch. 20 yards of the stuff plus 10 bags of pine bark nuggets around some of the conifers.

The Curt hitch came in along with the new mount for the cable plug.

Moving right along!

Looking at a 270 degree awning thing, really cool!

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #422 on:** April 17, 2019, 09:45:04 PM »

You should see if you can cut that cable plug into that new bumper. Keep the low hanging fruit from being so low.

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JR · « **Reply #423 on:** April 17, 2019, 11:42:13 PM »

If that control box was remote would that solve the issue? A new winch might be simpler answer.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #424 on:** April 18, 2019, 10:24:40 AM »

Quote from: JR on April 17, 2019, 11:42:13 PM

If that control box was remote would that solve the issue? A new winch might be simpler answer.

Wait and see grasshopper...
New is not the answer we seek
Making rice paper from the seed is the solution...

I crack myself up!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #425 on:** April 18, 2019, 10:26:08 AM »

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on April 17, 2019, 09:45:04 PM

You should see if you can cut that cable plug into that new bumper. Keep the low hanging fruit from being so low.

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Patience, my son, patience...

KensAuto · « **Reply #426 on:** April 18, 2019, 11:02:23 AM »

Quote from: Flyin6 on April 18, 2019, 10:26:08 AM

Patience, my son, patience...

I can only assume he's adopted?

I mean, we've heard you call him plenty of other things, but not that particular one.

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #427 on:** April 18, 2019, 12:08:55 PM »

Quote from: KensAuto on April 18, 2019, 11:02:23 AM

Quote from: Flyin6 on April 18, 2019, 10:26:08 AM
Patience, my son, patience...

I can only assume he's adopted?

I mean, we've heard you call him plenty of other things, but not that particular one.

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stlaser · « **Reply #428 on:** April 18, 2019, 12:38:41 PM »

Quote from: KensAuto on April 18, 2019, 11:02:23 AM

Quote from: Flyin6 on April 18, 2019, 10:26:08 AM
Patience, my son, patience...

I can only assume he's adopted?

I mean, we've heard you call him plenty of other things, but not that particular one.

Must be the red headed step child then.....

OldKooT · « **Reply #429 on:** April 18, 2019, 03:09:17 PM »

LoL hey I have 4 of those....

Flyin6 · « **Reply #430 on:** April 18, 2019, 08:01:10 PM »

The new rear hitch arrived late yesterday, so it was first up to get rid of the box.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #431 on:** April 18, 2019, 08:03:06 PM »

Curt is a Class IV with square tubing. Chevy part in background. Curt hitch weighs more for sure

Also Curt hitch is more compact. Notice how far Chevy places the hitch receptacle below the center mount

Flyin6 · « **Reply #432 on:** April 18, 2019, 08:05:03 PM »

The Chevy hardware was of a larger diameter and was still in great condition, so I elected to reuse it, but also added two of the curt grade 8 bolts to the front points

Notice how tightly it tucks up to the bumper. That is a ground clearance/departure angle improvement that I had not bargained for.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #433 on:** April 18, 2019, 08:05:48 PM »

I picked up a new connection and mount as well

Flyin6 · « **Reply #434 on:** April 18, 2019, 08:08:00 PM »

Knowing I'll be "Scrapin' tail" probably at Moab, I mounted the receptacle to the rear face where it could face downward for protection

I drilled holes, then used two 1/4" nutserts to complete the installation

Flyin6 · « **Reply #435 on:** April 18, 2019, 08:08:33 PM »

I like it!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #436 on:** April 18, 2019, 08:11:08 PM »

Next up, I modified the license plate light to connect it to the LED's Brian supplied

I just taped one of the bulb sockets, minus the bulb to the main harness to limit the impact of the modification as much as I could. Then I zipped and taped the harnesses up and out of harms way

Flyin6 · « **Reply #437 on:** April 18, 2019, 08:12:39 PM »

Looking at the rear quarter extension that everyone suggests cutting away to extend the bumper forward...Be it known that doing that will be a bit more complicated than when I did it to my Tundra truck

Flyin6 · « **Reply #438 on:** April 18, 2019, 08:13:37 PM »

The hitch fit so tightly to the bumper that tightening the center bolts pinched and slid some of the Line-X coating uphill:

Flyin6 · « **Reply #439 on:** April 18, 2019, 08:15:41 PM »

Next up. I pulled the newly created crossmember for the sway bar and welded that all up, then went on and welded up the panhard bar frame mount. I triangulated and gusseted the living heck out of the thing. Unnecessary, but I don't want problems years from now

Flyin6 · « **Reply #440 on:** April 18, 2019, 08:16:43 PM »

I'll clean that all up and undercoat it in the morrow and paint all the parts to be ready to go back together when the axle is completed

Flyin6 · « **Reply #441 on:** April 18, 2019, 08:22:01 PM »

So, except for mounting the vehicle tag, the rear bumper business is now complete.

The front bumper is sprayed and will pick up tomorrow and maybe get that thing installed as well.

I also Line-X'd the grill too! Not sure what that will look like, but it won't be shiny chrome anymore. I plan to remove everything that shines except for the pretty paint. Think I'll leave that just as it is!

Oh, also had the tires all mounted, so before the clock chimes midnight Sunday, I want the truck resting on its front suspension, with bumper installed. Winch cradle will come next week...

KensAuto · « **Reply #442 on:** April 18, 2019, 08:43:22 PM »

I know you had issues, but from the rear, that bumper looks uptight and out of sight. (Looks great)

Sammconn · « **Reply #443 on:** April 18, 2019, 09:28:48 PM »

Ken is right. Did I just say that. The bumper looks good for sure.
Like the hitch.

You’re gonna love the grill all line x’d up.
Seen a few and like them.

JR · « **Reply #444 on:** April 18, 2019, 10:07:30 PM »

Yep, looks good. Surprised you didn't do the combo plug for the hitch though.

stlaser · « **Reply #445 on:** April 18, 2019, 10:09:34 PM »

Surprised hitch wasn’t designed / built into rear bumper.

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #446 on:** April 18, 2019, 10:32:46 PM »

Seen a guy from the forum we don’t speak of. Greg
This is pretty idea

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stlaser · « **Reply #447 on:** April 18, 2019, 10:40:45 PM »

What’s that added anchor supposed to do Dave?

Oh wait, must be a Chevy thing I wouldn’t understand right?

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #448 on:** April 18, 2019, 10:50:33 PM »

It’s for the folks in the inner city who like to follow to close. Makes the sudden stop less on your vehicle

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rpar86 · « **Reply #449 on:** April 18, 2019, 10:51:29 PM »

Rock slider if I had to guess.

^^ that works too.

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