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« Reply #2200 on: December 01, 2020, 06:00:07 PM »
Hmm, room for more shop, another container and a lift.
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« Reply #2201 on: December 01, 2020, 06:42:21 PM »
You laugh.  Those plans are already in the works. Directly to the right of the shop and attached will be another 60 ft wide and the same 40 ft deep but 14 ft walls. Behind that is the seacan and before the next shop will be another seacan and roof attached to the first one for an equipment shed.


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« Reply #2202 on: December 01, 2020, 07:00:49 PM »
Do you guys get cold enough for concrete blankets?

Moving those things freaking sucked!!! The Crete heats up enough to melt the bottom of the snow, then as the mud cures the water then freezes into ice making the whole blanket solid!!
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« Reply #2203 on: December 01, 2020, 10:12:17 PM »
Uh no. We got to 26 last night and that was unusual and only for a couple hours


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« Reply #2204 on: December 03, 2020, 07:09:25 PM »
Well in the 40 degree rain yesterday I got the roof panels on the front to keep my stuff from getting any wetter than it already was.

Today I started at the back.  The concrete guys did not come to get the forms off so I had to knock off the forms and start welding in the horizontal purlins and cutting the panels.

I am re using the panels on the back and I didnt want to have new/more screw holes so I had to weld the purlins back on exactly in the right spot and cut a few inches off the bottom since The slab is higher than the gravel that was in the parking area in the back.

Got that done and closed in the two sides in the back so that’s done.  Tomorrow on to the front where I have to reframe the man door and roll up door.  I think I under estimated the need for more panels but will find out tomorrow.

Once the shop is dried in, the real work begins.  All new electrical EMT, air distribution and moving all the metal rack/shelving 


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« Reply #2205 on: December 04, 2020, 08:09:10 AM »
So weird to see rear load cement trucks


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« Reply #2206 on: December 04, 2020, 10:40:06 AM »
I guess I’d like to know the pros and cons.   I’d first think the rear would handle weight driving but then I think the whole truck might be smaller.   The front loaders are dual engines. Usually six drive axles, and the floater

Just sure neat trucks either way they shoot mud


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« Reply #2207 on: December 04, 2020, 07:06:28 PM »
Well Dave, your inquiry made me investigate.  Front chute trucks are more expensive for sure.

So today I worked on framing up the front of the shop having finished the rear.

For some odd reason the purlins i cut loose are now miraculously too short and I will need more purlins. I’m also short R panel for the sides and am tired of trying to match up prior screw holes so I’m just getting all new R panel for the front and new trim.  I ordered the R panel but it wont be ready until thursday but everything will be ready to install so it will go really quick.

I set the door today and the opening for the roll up on front.  Will go get more purlin tomorrow and set the roll up door and then start moving shelve units and clearing up the mess.

I have to wait a week for everything to dry out before I can get top soil and limestone to landscape around the new parking pad.


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« Reply #2208 on: December 05, 2020, 02:36:12 AM »
Nice. Rollup on the cont would be great
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« Reply #2209 on: December 05, 2020, 10:20:31 AM »
So, you're supposed to put sides on a shop?   Asking for a friend
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« Reply #2210 on: December 05, 2020, 11:51:22 AM »
So, you're supposed to put sides on a shop?   Asking for a friend
He has a man door, what else does he need? It’s that redneck thing, and least he has a roof that is more than I have right now. :beercheers:
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« Reply #2211 on: December 05, 2020, 07:41:17 PM »
Well, I lock the man door just to be safe....

Miraculously the purlins I cut loose are too short to re-use.  Went to the metal store again....

Feel like Johnny Cash building that 57 Cadillac.

Got the roll up door installed and it took a while to get it tensioned correctly.  I got most of the other purlins welded in and have 4 to go.

Ordered ten 8 ft 12,000 lumen LED lights.

Will get the remaining purlins in tomorrow and start moving some shelving to its likely resting place.  The sheets will go up quickly when I get them next thursday.

Let the wife be the first to park on the new slab,  she likes unloading groceries better on the slab with the easy walkway.

As usual its taken longer and I’m over budget, but that’s just how I roll....


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« Reply #2212 on: December 05, 2020, 08:13:06 PM »
Ok, Where do these purlins go? I’m used to seeing purlins stick out from the sides to create eaves. Don’t see anything like that in the pics.
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« Reply #2213 on: December 06, 2020, 12:08:47 AM »
Big difference Charles. He didn't pay for the caddy parts.
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« Reply #2214 on: December 06, 2020, 08:05:51 AM »
Touché Ken.

Ryan purlin is the material used to span the roof beams and attach roofing panels to. It comes in a “C” and “Z”configuration. 

In this instance I’m using that same material for the hoizontal pieces spanning the sides between posts to attach the wall panels

Welding little plates or “clips” to the poles and then attaching the purlin


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« Reply #2215 on: December 06, 2020, 08:47:45 AM »
Looks good Charles, glad you ordered all new steel. Sucks writing the check but will be happier in long run.
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« Reply #2216 on: December 06, 2020, 06:32:11 PM »

Well the structures are all up I’m just waiting on panels now so I started a cleanup organization and moving all the shelving around that’s gonna be the worse than even the construction


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« Reply #2217 on: December 06, 2020, 06:49:45 PM »
The concrete is already dirty


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« Reply #2218 on: December 06, 2020, 10:27:43 PM »
It happens.

Investigating sealers. Any advice?


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« Reply #2219 on: December 06, 2020, 10:40:21 PM »
The sealers I have used never last to long.   Let me get a picture of what I used

It’s held up ok. But time will tell


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« Reply #2220 on: December 06, 2020, 10:41:01 PM »
Be careful of epoxy as they will work well but make that driveway really slick.   The guys who helped with your pool might have a option or two also


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« Reply #2221 on: December 06, 2020, 10:43:30 PM »
I like Zinsser stuff, will remember they have it.

TRN, not quite secure yet??
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« Reply #2222 on: December 06, 2020, 10:44:14 PM »
Well, I lock the man door just to be safe....

Miraculously the purlins I cut loose are too short to re-use.  Went to the metal store again....

Feel like Johnny Cash building that 57 Cadillac.

Got the roll up door installed and it took a while to get it tensioned correctly.  I got most of the other purlins welded in and have 4 to go.

Ordered ten 8 ft 12,000 lumen LED lights.

Will get the remaining purlins in tomorrow and start moving some shelving to its likely resting place.  The sheets will go up quickly when I get them next thursday.

Let the wife be the first to park on the new slab,  she likes unloading groceries better on the slab with the easy walkway.

As usual its taken longer and I’m over budget, but that’s just how I roll....


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Where did you order your lights?  I have at least 30 8 ft fluorescent light fixtures in the garage. I want to start replacing them as they are a pain in the winter with slow startup and I’ve already broken a couple of bulbs. The idea of the kids breaking one and getting themselves cut up doesn’t make me happy either.


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« Reply #2223 on: December 06, 2020, 10:48:38 PM »

Charles, stuff I used at last home. Recommend by concrete guy and sold via bobcat dealer. Good stuff


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« Reply #2224 on: December 06, 2020, 11:07:10 PM »
Quit leaving the chevys on the slab and you won't have any stains?
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« Reply #2225 on: December 06, 2020, 11:08:49 PM »
Quit leaving the chevys on the slab and you won't have any stains?

^^^^^^^ what he said.......  :popcorn:
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« Reply #2226 on: December 07, 2020, 12:46:51 AM »
Quit leaving the chevys on the slab and you won't have any stains?

Wait until you park the cummins there!
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« Reply #2227 on: December 07, 2020, 07:11:12 AM »
Well, I lock the man door just to be safe....

Miraculously the purlins I cut loose are too short to re-use.  Went to the metal store again....

Feel like Johnny Cash building that 57 Cadillac.

Got the roll up door installed and it took a while to get it tensioned correctly.  I got most of the other purlins welded in and have 4 to go.

Ordered ten 8 ft 12,000 lumen LED lights.

Will get the remaining purlins in tomorrow and start moving some shelving to its likely resting place.  The sheets will go up quickly when I get them next thursday.

Let the wife be the first to park on the new slab,  she likes unloading groceries better on the slab with the easy walkway.

As usual its taken longer and I’m over budget, but that’s just how I roll....


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Where did you order your lights?  I have at least 30 8 ft fluorescent light fixtures in the garage. I want to start replacing them as they are a pain in the winter with slow startup and I’ve already broken a couple of bulbs. The idea of the kids breaking one and getting themselves cut up doesn’t make me happy either.


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« Reply #2228 on: December 07, 2020, 08:54:07 AM »
Some things that inherently leak a lot also work very well

Take the Chinook for example...
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« Reply #2229 on: December 07, 2020, 04:19:00 PM »
Some things that inherently leak a lot also work very well

Take the Chinook for example...
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« Reply #2230 on: December 07, 2020, 08:45:36 PM »
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« Reply #2231 on: December 08, 2020, 11:05:55 PM »
Lights came in



Will probably get 2-3 more.


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« Reply #2232 on: December 09, 2020, 09:44:13 AM »
Do you have a link for the lights? They look Great
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« Reply #2233 on: December 09, 2020, 09:57:31 PM »
Will get it. Can’t look at my Amazon account until after my birthday tomorrow. Wife doesn’t want me to see my gifts in order history.

So had some 066 limestone and Calichi mix delivered today


Got it spread and packed. Just need to fine tune the level


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« Reply #2234 on: December 09, 2020, 10:00:23 PM »
Those lights 12v or AC.
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« Reply #2235 on: December 09, 2020, 11:19:39 PM »
So Charles... you and the wife can have separate Amazon accounts but share a “household” Amazon prime account. Makes it easier to keep things separate ;)
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« Reply #2236 on: December 10, 2020, 03:54:12 AM »
Will get it. Can’t look at my Amazon account until after my birthday tomorrow. Wife doesn’t want me to see my gifts in order history.

So had some 066 limestone and Calichi mix delivered today


Got it spread and packed. Just need to fine tune the level


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A calichi mix, fascinating. Never heard of it being sold but I shouldn’t be surprised. I always wondered what it would be like to create small plant to process the stuff into some kind of usable adobo concrete like stuff. It’s available a plenty where we lived in AZ. Hit it all over our lot, 6” down in some spots, 30 or better in others.

How does it hold up in the long term? I’d imagine well because the stuff we uncovered didn’t deteriorate much over the 5 years we lived there.

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« Reply #2237 on: December 10, 2020, 08:02:43 AM »
Ryan,  I’,m too lazy to explain it to her.  She’s not the most technological person. 

Turner, its used a lot on farm and ranch roads, particularly in south Texas. This is my first time using it, but in my estimation as long as it doesn’t have standing water on it, the Calichi doesn’t get washed away and it stays packed.  Most likely I will come back in at some point and put a thin layer of 066 on top just to keep the dust and mud from tracking on the concrete.


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« Reply #2238 on: December 10, 2020, 10:52:29 AM »
Buy rock, have rock installed, pack rock, dig up well packed rock, pour more concrete, find new place to pile up rock. :)
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« Reply #2239 on: December 10, 2020, 06:48:29 PM »
You a berry bad man, Kenneth.....

But probably not too far off.  They SB2 limestone road base I had down is still under the concrete.  It made for a good hard base.

The path around the side of the shop is SB2 Granite and I like it even better, but its expensive.  Eventually that will probably get spread under the foundation for the future shop addition..

Got my R panel today and hope to start on putting it up tomorrow and get the shop closed in.  Work keeps getting in the way.  It’s dark when I go to work and dark when I get done.  Not conducive to projects.


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« Reply #2240 on: December 12, 2020, 03:26:25 PM »
Do you have a link for the lights? They look Great
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Also wrapped up the front including eave and corner trim. On to the back for eave and corner then the box rake along the side roof line


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« Reply #2242 on: December 12, 2020, 03:31:45 PM »
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« Reply #2243 on: December 12, 2020, 07:26:37 PM »
Nice work Charles  :likebutton:
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« Reply #2244 on: December 12, 2020, 07:38:47 PM »
Thanks. Got the back done and the corner pieces all done and got one side of the box rake on.  Should be able to finish tomorrow

Here is the before photo

 


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« Reply #2245 on: December 13, 2020, 07:55:20 PM »
Got the box rake pretty much complete this morning just before the rain hit.  I can attest that with double the roof area, the sound on the roof is deafening..  No leaks except from under the man door.  Have to get my threshold down


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« Reply #2246 on: December 13, 2020, 08:32:54 PM »
Got the box rake pretty much complete this morning just before the rain hit.  I can attest that with double the roof area, the sound on the roof is deafening..  No leaks except from under the man door.  Have to get my threshold down


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Charles, we always put pink insulation board under the roof panels. Makes life a lot quieter.
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« Reply #2247 on: December 13, 2020, 09:47:13 PM »
Yeah, Ive been thinking about that but I need to get ventilation figured out ....


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« Reply #2248 on: December 13, 2020, 09:57:37 PM »
If you don’t have some insulation up there it will be raining on the inside as well as the outside

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Re: Hide site, retirement site.
« Reply #2249 on: December 13, 2020, 11:21:58 PM »
If you don’t have some insulation up there it will be raining on the inside as well as the outside
Thats a good point. Mine is really bad right now with the moisture in the air and lower temps, but I don't have any walls.
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