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Re: 1975 Dodge Crew Cab Power Wagon Build and Cummins 6BT Conversion
« Reply #200 on: May 02, 2023, 10:04:49 AM »
Disassembly of the chassis continues with removal of the Getrag 360 5-speed transmission. Apparently, some mice took up residence inside the bellhousing while the chassis was parked in the field. They scampered off to a corner of the shop once the transmission was set onto the floor.
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Re: 1975 Dodge Crew Cab Power Wagon Build and Cummins 6BT Conversion
« Reply #201 on: May 02, 2023, 11:11:41 AM »
This what the transmission looks like inside. Apparently the shifter seal failed and allowed some rain water to seep in, there is some corrosion on top of the gearset and inside the top cover. Fortunately, it is not seized. There is still movement of the gears and shifter. No doubt it will require a rebuild. We will spray the inside with Kroil and set it aside for now.
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Re: 1975 Dodge Crew Cab Power Wagon Build and Cummins 6BT Conversion
« Reply #202 on: May 02, 2023, 11:14:45 AM »
Back to the NP205 transfer case. Once the housing was clean and dry, we masked off all mating surfaces, primed and painted with duplicolor engine enamel in a cast-iron color.
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Re: 1975 Dodge Crew Cab Power Wagon Build and Cummins 6BT Conversion
« Reply #203 on: May 02, 2023, 11:28:25 AM »
Here are most of the additional parts as they are restored by electrolytic rust removal, abrasive or bead blasting and then primed and painted. I also use Evaporust on a lot of the bolts and small hardware and brackets.
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Re: 1975 Dodge Crew Cab Power Wagon Build and Cummins 6BT Conversion
« Reply #204 on: May 02, 2023, 02:17:51 PM »
That came out nice
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Re: 1975 Dodge Crew Cab Power Wagon Build and Cummins 6BT Conversion
« Reply #205 on: May 02, 2023, 03:11:27 PM »
That came out nice
But wait, there’s more…

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Re: 1975 Dodge Crew Cab Power Wagon Build and Cummins 6BT Conversion
« Reply #206 on: May 02, 2023, 05:05:22 PM »
Looking good!  :popcorn:
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Re: 1975 Dodge Crew Cab Power Wagon Build and Cummins 6BT Conversion
« Reply #207 on: May 02, 2023, 07:31:46 PM »
The grey looks better than the black I did mine in before.
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Re: 1975 Dodge Crew Cab Power Wagon Build and Cummins 6BT Conversion
« Reply #208 on: May 02, 2023, 09:29:09 PM »
Here is the final layout prior to assembly. I obtained a NP205 full rebuild kit from Randy’s Worldwide with all bearings, seals and gaskets needed. I also purchased the technical manual from Torque King.
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« Reply #209 on: May 02, 2023, 09:36:43 PM »
We pressed new races/bearings into the idler gearset and reinstalled into the housing. Once installed, we checked endplay with a dial indicator.

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Re: 1975 Dodge Crew Cab Power Wagon Build and Cummins 6BT Conversion
« Reply #210 on: May 06, 2023, 06:45:33 AM »
We just continued the assembly, the Torque-King manual has step-by-step instructions and covers all the variants from different automakers and model years. The rebuild kit from Randy’s Worldwide contains all the parts necessary. It is a complete kit.

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« Reply #211 on: May 06, 2023, 12:27:18 PM »
Looking good
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Re: 1975 Dodge Crew Cab Power Wagon Build and Cummins 6BT Conversion
« Reply #212 on: May 06, 2023, 06:57:15 PM »
This is a fun one to watch. Looks like all new things


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« Reply #213 on: May 07, 2023, 07:25:39 AM »
Thanks.

Pressing the double seals into the input housing.
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« Reply #214 on: May 07, 2023, 07:30:49 AM »
This part was fun. 15 roller bearings inside of this shaft; we used petroleum jelly to hold the bearings in place as we installed them and 12 gauge wire to hold the spring retainer up while we installed each individual bearing.

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« Reply #215 on: May 07, 2023, 07:36:18 AM »
Here is the completed NP205. I tried to post up a short 10 second video but it didn’t seem to work…
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Re: 1975 Dodge Crew Cab Power Wagon Build and Cummins 6BT Conversion
« Reply #216 on: May 07, 2023, 09:47:09 AM »
I hope that doesn't rust!

They look so good when they are first built.

I vividly recall packing those 15 roller pins inside the access as you did. I recall using assembly grease to hold mine in there.
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« Reply #217 on: May 07, 2023, 10:22:43 AM »
The cast-iron case is primed and painted, as are all other cast and steel parts. I used paints from duplicolor and Eastwood that look like cast iron, bare steel, aluminum, etc. I clearcoated most of the bare aluminum. The plan is for this truck NOT to see any salt and minimal rain. I did come across a black-oxide process for a lot of the OEM hardware that we are re-using. Degrease, De-rust, bead-blast and then oxide. I will outline the process in a future post.
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Re: 1975 Dodge Crew Cab Power Wagon Build and Cummins 6BT Conversion
« Reply #218 on: May 07, 2023, 10:58:14 AM »
Very nice!
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Re: 1975 Dodge Crew Cab Power Wagon Build and Cummins 6BT Conversion
« Reply #219 on: May 07, 2023, 02:37:21 PM »
I like the grey over when I did mine. It was black with stainless hardware.
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Re: 1975 Dodge Crew Cab Power Wagon Build and Cummins 6BT Conversion
« Reply #220 on: May 11, 2023, 06:24:13 AM »
Back to the chassis. With the transmission and transfer case removed, we tried to turn over the engine. NOGO. Ran when parked… 6+ years ago…

Let’s disassemble this thing and see what the issue is. The plan is to strip most of the components off of the engine and pull the cylinder head off while it is still in the chassis. Then move the block onto an engine stand.
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« Reply #221 on: May 11, 2023, 06:42:17 AM »
Not good. After removing the cylinder head, we found corrosion in two cylinders. Apparently moisture entered the engine at some point. Is it salvageable?

The plan is to fill the affected cylinders with Evaporust and let it soak in and dissolve the corrosion for a few days.
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« Reply #222 on: May 11, 2023, 11:26:01 AM »
Are these blocks sleeved?
If so there is the answer.
Unfortunate that it’s this way.

Otherwise then oversized and a bore in its future.
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« Reply #223 on: May 11, 2023, 12:19:35 PM »
Are these blocks sleeved?
If so there is the answer.
Unfortunate that it’s this way.

Otherwise then oversized and a bore in its future.

Not sleeved. I agree. A boring is in this engine’s future.

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« Reply #224 on: May 11, 2023, 12:22:37 PM »
We just continued the assembly, the Torque-King manual has step-by-step instructions and covers all the variants from different automakers and model years. The rebuild kit from Randy’s Worldwide contains all the parts necessary. It is a complete kit.

other than your tech manual pedestal being slightly over engineered, i think this is coming along very very nicely sir  :wink:
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« Reply #225 on: May 11, 2023, 12:26:16 PM »
The bores are pretty robust but that is bad. Any can be sleeved if you must.
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« Reply #226 on: May 12, 2023, 06:23:55 AM »
The affected bores are filled with Evaporust and covered. We continue to strip parts and components off of the engine in preparation for removal from the chassis.
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« Reply #227 on: May 15, 2023, 07:39:18 AM »
The forklift makes removing the engine from the chassis almost easy. We bolted the block to a new 2000lb capacity engine stand.
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« Reply #228 on: May 15, 2023, 08:44:26 AM »
I have an almost identical stand, to which after grinding out welds and rewelding it I then built a side mount for the Cummins. Stand may be 2k rated but that Cummins is long front to back.
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« Reply #229 on: May 15, 2023, 12:26:14 PM »
Think thats why some stands mount the motor on the side.
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« Reply #230 on: May 15, 2023, 12:49:40 PM »
I have an almost identical stand, to which after grinding out welds and rewelding it I then built a side mount for the Cummins. Stand may be 2k rated but that Cummins is long front to back.

Agree. It’s a heavy engine. If I do another one, I will make a side mount.

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« Reply #231 on: May 15, 2023, 02:33:16 PM »
A realman would build a real Cummins stand, this is one I threw together awhile back
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« Reply #232 on: May 15, 2023, 03:28:36 PM »
A realman would build a real Cummins stand, this is one I threw together awhile back

Tossed that together did ya???

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« Reply #233 on: May 15, 2023, 04:51:57 PM »
Nice work Phil, I imagine you just had those cost effective pillow blocks laying around?????  :popcorn:
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« Reply #234 on: May 15, 2023, 06:28:06 PM »
I’m wanting to build something like that for my LB7 block


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« Reply #235 on: May 16, 2023, 06:33:20 AM »
Very nice engine stand.

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« Reply #236 on: May 16, 2023, 07:34:07 AM »
Disassembly of the 12v begins. The Evaporust appears to have done its job, and although the cylinder affected cylinder walls look a little rough, we should be able to get the piston s removed.
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« Reply #237 on: May 16, 2023, 09:09:04 AM »
Nice work Phil, I imagine you just had those cost effective pillow blocks laying around?????  :popcorn:

One of the very few advantages of LA was there are lots of surplus houses, I think I paid $50 for the pair.  Picked up the very nice casters for 100 for the set of 4. Is all bolt together so I can roll it under a bench when not in use.  Total build cost less than $400 if I remember correctly.

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« Reply #238 on: May 16, 2023, 06:42:11 PM »
Sweet  :likebutton:
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« Reply #239 on: May 17, 2023, 07:55:40 AM »
We removed the camshaft, crankshaft and the pistons. Only one of the two pistons with corrosion in the cylinder bores required additional effort to remove. The Evaporust did an excellent job of loosening the pistons and rings. The two affected cylinder walls don’t look as bad as they did right after cylinder head removal.
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« Reply #240 on: May 17, 2023, 08:00:59 AM »
With the engine block completely stripped of parts, we power washed everything and placed it on a pallet until it goes to Haisley Machine in Indiana.
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« Reply #241 on: May 17, 2023, 06:14:14 PM »
Mines been undercover and rotated free when I got it, some time ago! Only had 80K I was told.
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« Reply #242 on: May 18, 2023, 07:23:50 AM »
Mines been undercover and rotated free when I got it, some time ago! Only had 80K I was told.

Keep it covered! This engine did get water/moisture in it at some point.

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« Reply #243 on: May 18, 2023, 04:08:46 PM »
With the engine out, disassembled and at Haisley Machine, it’s time to start stripping the remaining parts from the chassis. We will definitely need to take out the king pin Dana 60 front axle and the fuel tank.

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« Reply #244 on: May 25, 2023, 06:38:06 AM »
We continue to strip the ‘91 chassis. Here is the Dana 60 front axle. Once the frame is stripped and moved out of the way we will dig into the axle to see what surprises await…

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« Reply #245 on: May 25, 2023, 12:35:06 PM »
Looks like a clean axle.
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« Reply #246 on: May 30, 2023, 10:08:14 AM »
Looks like a clean axle.
It’s OK, rusty but not too much pitting.

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« Reply #247 on: May 30, 2023, 10:13:21 AM »
Everything we want to keep is stripped from the ‘91 chassis. We will put it outside in an out-of-the-way location in case we need to check measurements or bracket locations in the future.
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« Reply #248 on: May 30, 2023, 02:31:24 PM »
Not sure what your build plan is, but I didn’t measure any brackets going from the 92 donor onto the 74. Just bolted it all together.

Had to cut out the divorced transfer case cross member on the 74 frame, and drill some holes for the 92 transmission cross member. Everything else was direct bolt on.

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« Reply #249 on: May 30, 2023, 02:35:32 PM »
Frame looks pretty good. No obvious pitting and just surface rust.
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