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Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
« Reply #100 on: May 06, 2020, 10:52:24 AM »
TY sir. I have some boat pieces I wanted to clean up and didn't want to waste time/money with a bunch of different compounds
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« Reply #101 on: May 06, 2020, 11:02:36 AM »
Are your parts chrome or stainless or aluminum?


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Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
« Reply #102 on: May 06, 2020, 11:49:36 AM »
Cast alum.
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« Reply #103 on: May 06, 2020, 09:12:41 PM »
For sure a buffer wheel on a bench grinder will do well


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« Reply #104 on: May 07, 2020, 10:54:37 AM »
Thx again.
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Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
« Reply #105 on: May 17, 2020, 10:28:51 PM »
Ok trailer reassembled!!

Ps short wife’s are not for overhead work




Next up.   The reason I pulled the trailer out!  My Macs custom tie down anchor points




Should work out with one exception.  I didn’t count goodernuff and I am short two sets of anchor mounts so I’ll be ordering again


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Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
« Reply #106 on: June 27, 2020, 05:29:19 PM »
Today I cut and installed my unistrut for the per frame to raise up and down in. 

Going for three heights

One for travel, one for bikes loaded and needing to sleep.

Third height is for longer stays lots lower to the ground

I have 94 inches side to side.  So I’ll see about a wood box for storage next to the mattress

Building for a kid size mattress


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Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
« Reply #107 on: June 27, 2020, 05:29:49 PM »



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Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
« Reply #108 on: January 06, 2021, 06:30:59 PM »
I finally decided I wasn’t waiting on the fabricator to help me with the bed for my trailer,   I ordered steel and will be getting some light welder practice in here real soon

Ordered 70’ of 1x3 square tube and should be able to make do with some other material I have laying around

I have some gear parts coming also next week

The plan is to build the bed so that it has a cable system to pull it up right against the ceiling.  I have a envision in my brain and we will see how it turns out



I’ll see if I can get out my color pencils and draw something that might make sense

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Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
« Reply #109 on: January 09, 2021, 08:57:12 PM »
Today I rolled out the Mig and started making things to look like a way over built bed frame.

1x3 square tube 45degree corners, three cross braces and welded 100% around     Heavier then I can move on my own. 






Took a min to get the welder set but once we did and turned off the over head fans I was good to go.   


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Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
« Reply #110 on: January 12, 2021, 08:01:11 PM »
https://youtu.be/WL8hLEvCLGA


Ok folks what say yeah



I am not sold on his motor/drive location it makes it more complicated.


I want to stay drill powered.


I want to move the drive above the bed at the top of the unistrut and pull them two cables around the bed

Follow Cable route

Drive motor.  Down wall> pulley and under the bed > pulley and up the wall to a fixed spot on the other side of the unistrut


I’m concerned the bed will lift in even

I don’t know if that causes a problem but it will mess with the OCD for sure


Other idea is move motor to middle under bed frame end attach cable at the top of unistrut in four corners following the same pulley structure.

Then build a box to hide the motor stuff


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Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
« Reply #111 on: January 12, 2021, 08:05:19 PM »
Welds look good  :likebutton:
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Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
« Reply #112 on: January 12, 2021, 10:10:12 PM »
This is what I have brainstormed on one idea

Pardon my pencil drawing




I also have another option of building the bed frame with more guides In the unistrut     Instead of four pulleys on one cable.  Use two but have four guides in the unistrut so the bed can’t travel one side of the other without moving


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Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
« Reply #113 on: January 24, 2021, 12:33:13 AM »
Some more progress till the helper cut the last long straight for a small scrap instead of using the small scrap. 

Left me two inches short of material





Tonight’s goal was to get the foot and head of the bed frames in,   I didn’t finish due to the material shortage

Note the recessed pulleys ?

Slick huh?


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Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
« Reply #114 on: January 24, 2021, 11:16:55 AM »
Looks good Dave.
...but. I think you're in for a lifetime of trying to make it work, reliably, and safely (heavy). Might be 10 times easier to have one side attached solid. More like a Murphy bed. You'll obviously lose some space, but would sure be more reliable. Not trying to be negative. Just an opinion.
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Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
« Reply #115 on: January 24, 2021, 11:31:49 AM »
...That is slick!
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Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
« Reply #116 on: January 24, 2021, 12:27:23 PM »
Looks good Dave.
...but. I think you're in for a lifetime of trying to make it work, reliably, and safely (heavy). Might be 10 times easier to have one side attached solid. More like a Murphy bed. You'll obviously lose some space, but would sure be more reliable. Not trying to be negative. Just an opinion.
I would lend to your thoughts if I haven’t seen it work many times before with other folks.   

Various ideas on how to get it to lift but  all the same general idea. 

I think it’s about 200lbs now plus add the mattress,   I might drill some speed holes into the frame to cut back on weight lol.


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« Reply #117 on: January 24, 2021, 12:30:30 PM »
Long as it rides level it should work OK. Beds in my TH are chain driven.
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Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
« Reply #118 on: January 24, 2021, 04:54:24 PM »
Looks good Dave.
...but. I think you're in for a lifetime of trying to make it work, reliably, and safely (heavy). Might be 10 times easier to have one side attached solid. More like a Murphy bed. You'll obviously lose some space, but would sure be more reliable. Not trying to be negative. Just an opinion.
I would lend to your thoughts if I haven’t seen it work many times before with other folks.   

Various ideas on how to get it to lift but  all the same general idea. 

I think it’s about 200lbs now plus add the mattress,   I might drill some speed holes into the frame to cut back on weight lol.


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Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
« Reply #119 on: January 24, 2021, 08:09:54 PM »
Dave looking good. Maybe I’m not able to tell from the illustration but is there a corresponding slot/track frame on the sides of the trailer for the rack to ride on in addition to the cable for lifting?


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Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
« Reply #120 on: January 24, 2021, 08:21:58 PM »
Charles,

Yes I have four vertical unistrut bars that run floor to ceiling that I have bearings to go in.

I’m going to have 8 bearings in the unistrut that will control up and down and should keep the frame level as it rises


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« Reply #121 on: January 24, 2021, 09:22:41 PM »
I have seen small elevators and overhead racks made with those. Nice options!
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Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
« Reply #122 on: January 30, 2021, 07:35:01 PM »
Well the pillow blocks won’t work

Going to change to the flat mount anyway with a larger diameter ID

Got the drive shaft widened out today  also



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« Reply #123 on: February 07, 2021, 03:37:54 PM »
Got the other side of the bed frame on today,  also cut the bearing supports to fit

Need to go scratch up a drill press so I get good repeatable holes




I’ll get that quad out of the garage this week, pull the trailer back in and set in place for further mock up of the cables

Need to order cable also lol


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« Reply #124 on: February 07, 2021, 05:54:06 PM »
Got all of my welds that are easy to get to ground down, then hit with 150 g on an orbital.  That way powder coat looks clean.




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« Reply #125 on: February 07, 2021, 07:12:25 PM »
Nice work
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« Reply #126 on: February 10, 2021, 02:25:42 PM »
Got the frame set in place in the trailer,   It fits with a decent amount of room to spare for fab and installing the bearings

Need to figure out how to do a few things here

The cable routing

The bearing locations

How to get the bearings in the unistrut

Build some plates at the top of the bed to hold the drive axle



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« Reply #127 on: February 10, 2021, 02:31:14 PM »
Now that it is built I think the only way to get the bearings in are the ends normally. Maybe cut slots in the top and slide in there?

Many beds like that have a fold out bench or one incorporated. Great for hanging out with extra seating.
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« Reply #128 on: February 10, 2021, 02:48:30 PM »
I was thinking notching it with the grinder and splitting it in from the bottom

The bearings will bolt onto the bed so I won’t need completely tear the bed apart to get it out.


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« Reply #129 on: February 10, 2021, 04:13:37 PM »
The bearings are nice, singles and doubles and have some good load ratings. Getting them into the uni is the trick.
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Re: 2017 8.5x26 enclosed trailer
« Reply #130 on: February 10, 2021, 06:18:20 PM »
dave, i see 1 of your 2 hounds in the picture and it made me think about how your sick one is doing?  is he better now?
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« Reply #131 on: February 10, 2021, 06:36:47 PM »
That’s a good question Nate

My mastiff is doing pretty ok,   Had to nix the tomato’s as that’s one thing he is major allergic to, I’ll post his allergy chart


The chart reads red for his allergy’s, the closer to 100 they don’t highlight but will cause him issues. So his diet is greatly monitored.  The places he plays and people who I let him be with.

He gets shots weekly to reduce his reactions

He goes up and down on prednisone and multiple types of allergy meds, antibiotics also

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« Reply #132 on: March 06, 2021, 08:32:01 PM »
Ok ok picture dump




I didn’t like bolting the bearings to the angle so I scrubbed that idea

To much thinking involved

So I made the angle to bolt to the frame then I can tac weld the bearings to the angle as centered off a tape measure.





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« Reply #133 on: March 07, 2021, 02:28:44 PM »
This is my plan to attach the drive system


I’ll bolt this onto the plate, then weld the plate onto the bed frame side. The only thing is the amount of wacks to the forehead I’ll get be use this will need to hang down a few inches for the drive shaft to clear everything
The pillow block will be similar on the other side of the bed frame.

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« Reply #134 on: March 07, 2021, 06:42:56 PM »
Well here is where I close today






Looks like I’m waiting on the cable to run and we will be all set.

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« Reply #135 on: March 08, 2021, 06:36:55 AM »
Electric or are you manually raising the bed?


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« Reply #136 on: March 08, 2021, 09:20:23 AM »
Cheating I’m using a electric drill


This is a gear reduction box,  not sure what the reduction is but somewhere in the 1:5   I’ll count it today and see


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« Reply #137 on: March 09, 2021, 06:17:01 PM »
Today I got the turnbuckles on, cable ran and gave it a go. 

She works




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« Reply #138 on: March 09, 2021, 10:14:59 PM »
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« Reply #139 on: March 10, 2021, 08:43:51 AM »
Pretty slick!
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« Reply #140 on: March 10, 2021, 11:59:36 AM »
Pretty slick!

Ken, don’t even think about it. That type of system won’t hold your GF H.......  :tongue:
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« Reply #141 on: March 10, 2021, 12:10:32 PM »
By my math I figure I have about 900 lbs minus the 220 frame, 180lb mattress so it would me H Close


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« Reply #142 on: March 10, 2021, 01:27:13 PM »
Dave has a channel!!
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« Reply #143 on: March 10, 2021, 03:52:45 PM »
Dave has a few videos he has uploaded to YouTube.   Many have disappeared for who knows why but... yeah


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« Reply #144 on: March 21, 2021, 02:58:20 AM »
Picked up some batteries for the trailer  this week



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« Reply #145 on: March 21, 2021, 08:46:19 AM »
I need more info on these batteries. Never seen that brand before. I never knew Eaton was in the battery business.
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« Reply #146 on: March 21, 2021, 10:39:07 AM »
That’s about as much as I have,  I checked google for a cost as of new, a buddy in Florida says they read to be good batteries and the seller said I could bring em back if I had issues or needed wiring help.   

https://www.eaton.com/content/dam/eaton/products/backup-power-ups-surge-it-power-distribution/backup-power-ups/ups-batteries-resources/eaton-12v-390w-battery-brochure-BAT02FXA.pdf


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« Reply #147 on: March 21, 2021, 11:02:37 AM »
They’re an AGM design so that’s a plus.
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« Reply #148 on: March 21, 2021, 11:25:10 AM »
Absorbed glass mat.  But otherwise I have no idea what that means, I’ll dive down the google hole


Sounds like good things to me also .


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« Reply #149 on: March 21, 2021, 11:29:37 AM »
Absorbed glass mat.  But otherwise I have no idea what that means, I’ll dive down the google hole


Sounds like good things to me also .


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Correct, good for RV’s and the newer cars that have stop / start technology. Just a better battery overall I think.
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