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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #300 on: May 23, 2017, 09:15:38 PM »
On a side note, if you start cutting any hardwood, the slabs work very well as fence posts.  My neighbor has cut a ton of lumber over the past years, enough to build two very large barns.  For all the hardwood slabs, he cut them with a chainsaw at 8' lengths, and used them for fence posts.  This was for a barbed wire fence to hold his cows.  Been a few years installed, and they are still solid as can be.  Just a thought. 
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« Reply #301 on: May 23, 2017, 09:23:43 PM »
Hey Don, since you referenced your Bovine Refugees, I learned an interesting wrinkle on Free-range laws you might need to check-out - in the West (includes Iowa!?) if YOU don't want your neighbors cows grazing on your land, it's YOUR responsibility to build fence to keep them out......we don't have an immigration problem, it's just FREE GRAZERS!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #302 on: May 23, 2017, 09:27:02 PM »
Started working on that tank. Concept of the operation was to clean it up pressure wash the interior with hot soapy water, sand it down and get it ready for paint

First up I had to pry out this plug

THis 2" NPT nipple will likely be the pump mount site
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« Reply #303 on: May 23, 2017, 09:28:02 PM »
Found this stuff inside the tank
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« Reply #304 on: May 23, 2017, 09:29:28 PM »
Yep, still has some red dyed off road diesel inside. There was some sediment, but not much and no real rust to speak of
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« Reply #305 on: May 23, 2017, 09:31:03 PM »
After pulling the drain plug, I tilted the thing and blasted away using dawn soap to produce an autoclave like cleanliness!
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« Reply #306 on: May 23, 2017, 09:33:28 PM »
Then a couple hours later I had the thing all sanded up. Again, I didn't really find anything. It had a red oxide primer base, followed by a coat of silver, then another coat of light gray which I'd say is fairly recent
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« Reply #307 on: May 23, 2017, 09:36:15 PM »
I touched up the bare metal and sanded down rust spots with that epoxy rust sealant paint which both locks in rust and pretty much evenly coats ones fingers and arms...especially if you have an abundance of arm hair. Girly men would fare much better, but then again you'd never find a metro-sexual actually working...
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« Reply #308 on: May 23, 2017, 09:41:04 PM »
I'll touch up the brush marks with some 220 grit prior to spraying.

I'm going to do 15 coats of candy apple red lacquer followed by a dozen coats of clear. I want to be able to wet sand the imperfections out and get it looking like a mirror!

You buying any of that? Interested in a bridge I have for sale in New York? Kind of guy who spent two hours going from hardware store to hardware store in search for a gallon of half tone dots?

Continuing, Here is the approved thread sealant for tanks and such. Works pretty good on old cuts and blue jeans. The green color helps identify the once good pants as work only clothing! Cool!
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« Reply #309 on: May 23, 2017, 09:42:42 PM »
The autoclave cleaned interior was rust scale free, so I touched up the intake port with some epoxy paint designed to dissolve in the fuel and clog injectors on John Deere tractors. I'll keep you all posted if the stuff actually works!
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« Reply #310 on: May 23, 2017, 09:43:51 PM »
Like I mentioned. it works well on digits as well as palms, backs of hands, foreheads and forearms! Pretty universal stuff if you ask me!

I was using #150 grit, but when the sander bogged down, I switched to just using my hands! THe paint literally flew off. I have palms and fingers that go from #60 to #80 and is harder than asteroid crust!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #311 on: May 23, 2017, 09:46:15 PM »
And there ya have it folks, another mess in the making!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #312 on: May 23, 2017, 10:30:16 PM »
you must have one heck of an EPA disaster somewhere there on your property............
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #313 on: May 23, 2017, 10:51:30 PM »
you must have one heck of an EPA disaster somewhere there on your property............
Funny...I was thinking along similar lines.
But more on the note of the over nosey neighbour up to no good, and getting the EPA and hazmat cleanup on order...
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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« Reply #314 on: May 23, 2017, 10:59:34 PM »
Just tell them he was washing ducks from an oil spill site. That'll make the liberals think the chem spill was worth it to rescue wildlife.


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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #315 on: May 23, 2017, 11:57:47 PM »
Well first off, little paint would get on my arms. Heck I shave twice a week sometimes!

That tank looked great inside. You going to have a service come fill it or just truck it there when needed?
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #316 on: May 24, 2017, 09:44:58 AM »
Well first off, little paint would get on my arms. Heck I shave twice a week sometimes!

That tank looked great inside. You going to have a service come fill it or just truck it there when needed?
Gonna try and have a truck come in and top it off

I am hearing .40 off list in taxes alone. The trick, I hear is to find out when a service station nearby is getting topped up, then see if they can also deliver to my location.
The problem might be in the fact that I am so remote
Alternate plan is to pick up a couple 55 gallon drums, and a  hand pump, then top up at a local ag-gas place and have the pre-rangers gets loads of arm exercise! ;-)))
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« Reply #317 on: May 24, 2017, 09:48:10 AM »
you must have one heck of an EPA disaster somewhere there on your property............
Funny, but I never even thought about that

Socialist states sure have left their mark!

Too bad we can't do some sort of cleanup on the socialist problem ;-))
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« Reply #318 on: May 24, 2017, 10:17:08 AM »
you must have one heck of an EPA disaster somewhere there on your property............
Funny, but I never even thought about that

Socialist states sure have left their mark!

Too bad we can't do some sort of cleanup on the socialist problem ;-))
Now we're talking.

The hand pumps are a bit of a work out, but certainly doable.
Builds character I think is the saying...
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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« Reply #319 on: May 24, 2017, 10:33:34 AM »
you must have one heck of an EPA disaster somewhere there on your property............
Funny, but I never even thought about that

Socialist states sure have left their mark!

Too bad we can't do some sort of cleanup on the socialist problem ;-))
Now we're talking.

The hand pumps are a bit of a work out, but certainly doable.
Builds character I think is the saying...
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10 pump strokes per gallon X 55 gallons = 550 push/pulls

It's all good, one is conditioning for football already...this should play right into that. With the rowing and push-up pump action and stacking up that rock wall, that boy is gonna create casualties. Well, he already checked that block!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #320 on: May 24, 2017, 05:38:47 PM »
Depending on where you store the tank, siphoning should work fine.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #321 on: May 24, 2017, 05:50:35 PM »
Lift it in the bucks of Sarge and siphon.  You will probably need a federal off road dyed diesel license.  I have the application sitting on my desk right now.


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« Reply #322 on: May 24, 2017, 07:59:53 PM »
Holy crap! You need a federal license for off-road diesel in TX?

We probably have a half dozen or more plastic 55gal drums at my work, I don't think anyone would care if you took them Don. Just throwing that out there...

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« Reply #323 on: May 24, 2017, 08:20:33 PM »
Lift it in the bucks of Sarge and siphon.  You will probably need a federal off road dyed diesel license.  I have the application sitting on my desk right now.


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We even have a service station near here that has a pump dedicated to it. Just pull up and pump away!

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« Reply #324 on: May 24, 2017, 08:21:18 PM »
Holy crap! You need a federal license for off-road diesel in TX?

We probably have a half dozen or more plastic 55gal drums at my work, I don't think anyone would care if you took them Don. Just throwing that out there...
I get them from the nearby tire store. THey give them to me.
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« Reply #325 on: May 25, 2017, 09:58:27 PM »
I started with trying to pull the 2" NPT nipple out of the bung it seemed to be seized into.

I used a four foot piece of DOM I had laying about and with some protest it came loose

Having measured the suction pipe, it would have been too short with that extension, so removing it was my only real option
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« Reply #326 on: May 25, 2017, 09:59:02 PM »
The pre-Ranger approved
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« Reply #327 on: May 25, 2017, 10:00:35 PM »
Next, I gave the whole thing another sanding with #220 grit to break the glaze on the new epoxy, and smooth things up in preparation for the paint
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« Reply #328 on: May 25, 2017, 10:01:33 PM »
Then it got washed with prep-sol solvent to remove any sweat, oils or anti-matter.
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« Reply #329 on: May 25, 2017, 10:04:56 PM »
I went to TSC and scored a gallon of "Oliver Tractor Gray" paint for $19! It was on sale and nearly matches my fav, the Lycoming gray aircraft engine paint. I added a quality hardener and reduced it with enamel thinner and shot nearly a half gallon onto the thing. I gave it four coats to give it some long years of fighting sunlight and one of Kim-ill-sung's EMP bombs.
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« Reply #330 on: May 25, 2017, 10:06:21 PM »
Is that a MOAB?
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« Reply #331 on: May 25, 2017, 10:06:49 PM »
THis will probably go on in the morrow. Its a 12 VDC fuel pump rated at a thousand gallons a minute or something like that. Cool business about this dude is the cost...a cool $199!
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« Reply #333 on: May 25, 2017, 10:08:26 PM »
I'll be adding this critter as well. I purchased it because I liked the color

Farms n' hide sites ought to be pretty, don't cha think?
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« Reply #334 on: May 25, 2017, 10:09:11 PM »
I moved these so that they wouldn't blend in with the tank...
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« Reply #335 on: May 26, 2017, 01:19:52 PM »
I'm sure I'm saying what you already know, but make sure you're pick up tube is not on the very bottom of the tank.  Always leave it a few inches up off the bottom.  Everything you don't want going into your tractor resides in the bottom few inches of a fuel tank... 

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« Reply #336 on: May 26, 2017, 02:07:35 PM »
I'm sure I'm saying what you already know, but make sure you're pick up tube is not on the very bottom of the tank.  Always leave it a few inches up off the bottom.  Everything you don't want going into your tractor resides in the bottom few inches of a fuel tank...
Very true words spoken here.
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« Reply #337 on: May 26, 2017, 02:54:28 PM »
Back when I was working, we had the fuel tanks pumped out once a year. Pain to do but sucking out the bottom few inches really helps keep the equipment running

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« Reply #338 on: May 26, 2017, 07:07:17 PM »
Could a wire mesh sock be made to keep out the crud?


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« Reply #339 on: May 26, 2017, 07:20:28 PM »
Could a wire mesh sock be made to keep out the crud?


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Crud is only part of the problem. The filter don is adding will work.
Water is another issue, it and larger debris will be quite content in the bottom three or so inches.
Mesh screen would be a good idea none the less.
And emptying occasionally once a year or two would be good insurance the water if any was gone.
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« Reply #340 on: May 26, 2017, 09:01:44 PM »
Just add a Fass onto it.


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« Reply #341 on: May 26, 2017, 10:25:08 PM »
OK Paint cured and I think I have a good coating here
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« Reply #342 on: May 26, 2017, 10:27:14 PM »
Here is the pump mount and 2" NPT bung adapter and the three sections of pick-up

With the pickup extended all the way, it sits about 2.5" from the bottom of the tank, about what you boneheads were recommending!

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« Reply #343 on: May 26, 2017, 10:28:41 PM »
Next up I had to connect the 18' lead wire to the pump/switch assembly
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« Reply #344 on: May 26, 2017, 10:30:08 PM »
Then I split about a foot of cable, soldered on two alligator clips and finished the cable with conduit and tape
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« Reply #345 on: May 26, 2017, 10:30:52 PM »
Here is the pump kit for those interested in repeating this exercise
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« Reply #346 on: May 26, 2017, 10:32:24 PM »
Then the O-ring, inline screen strainer, and pump are bolted together
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« Reply #347 on: May 26, 2017, 10:34:02 PM »
The outlet elbow is installed and a short length of 1" iron pipe to give room for filter changes and water draining
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« Reply #348 on: May 26, 2017, 10:35:23 PM »
I installed the nozzle holder next to make sure things would align and fit properly
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« Reply #349 on: May 26, 2017, 10:36:35 PM »
his tab allows one to padlock the nozzle for security
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