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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #350 on: May 26, 2017, 10:37:19 PM »
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #351 on: May 26, 2017, 10:39:00 PM »
This kit came with a 14 foot supply hose, one of the reasons I purchased it. I feel that a hose of less than 14 feet gets sort of sketchy. When working with things like Sarge, you don't want to get too close to anything, especially things that go "Boom!"
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #352 on: May 26, 2017, 10:40:15 PM »
With that installed, I was almost mission complete (MC)
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« Reply #353 on: May 26, 2017, 10:41:37 PM »
I painted the iron pipe and decaled the thing up and called it gud enough!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #354 on: May 26, 2017, 11:45:52 PM »
Some seriously good finish there.
Looks like a winner there Don.
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #355 on: May 26, 2017, 11:57:33 PM »
Looks good!  Where are you putting it? Under a shed or a canopy or??


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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #356 on: May 26, 2017, 11:58:28 PM »
Looks good to go Don, that pad lock installed in the pot metal will at least let you know some one helped themselves while you were away.

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« Reply #357 on: May 27, 2017, 12:22:10 AM »
Looks great Don!


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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #358 on: May 27, 2017, 02:03:52 AM »
Nice work Don.

Have you thought of using plugs with all those little 12v items you keep building?
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #359 on: May 27, 2017, 12:37:06 PM »
Looks good to go Don, that pad lock installed in the pot metal will at least let you know some one helped themselves while you were away.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #360 on: May 27, 2017, 12:38:14 PM »
Looks good!  Where are you putting it? Under a shed or a canopy or??


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I'm thinking four posts, with a platform. Tank resting on platform with a roof over head

Would be simple enough to construct and inexpensive
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #361 on: May 27, 2017, 12:44:54 PM »
I think a concrete slab would be better than a wood type thing to hold all of that fuel weight....?
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #362 on: May 27, 2017, 12:47:26 PM »
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I'm thinking four posts, with a platform. Tank resting on platform with a roof over head

Would be simple enough to construct and inexpensive

Have you decided how you'll refill it? Just thinking if you plan to trailer it to refill making the platform for easy on/easy off the trailer might make sense. Maybe even something where the "platform" releases from the posts so you back the trailer right under the canopy....lift platform and tank together and away you go. Or skid it on & off. But you might need an anchor off back side of said platform for ease of skidding. Also thinking the height should be for when the tan is on the trailer full as opposed to when it's empty- easier to skid an empty tank "uphill" vs a full tank "uphill". Course if you're having fillups brought to you you can ignore everything I just said. Ha. I just like the idea of being able to take it and fill it where you want to.

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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #363 on: May 27, 2017, 01:31:20 PM »
I think a concrete slab would be better than a wood type thing to hold all of that fuel weight....?
It would work, but the whole tank, full of gas is just a tad over 2,000 lbs

Diesel is what, 6.8 lb/gallon?
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #364 on: May 27, 2017, 01:32:45 PM »
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I'm thinking four posts, with a platform. Tank resting on platform with a roof over head

Would be simple enough to construct and inexpensive

Have you decided how you'll refill it? Just thinking if you plan to trailer it to refill making the platform for easy on/easy off the trailer might make sense. Maybe even something where the "platform" releases from the posts so you back the trailer right under the canopy....lift platform and tank together and away you go. Or skid it on & off. But you might need an anchor off back side of said platform for ease of skidding. Also thinking the height should be for when the tan is on the trailer full as opposed to when it's empty- easier to skid an empty tank "uphill" vs a full tank "uphill". Course if you're having fillups brought to you you can ignore everything I just said. Ha. I just like the idea of being able to take it and fill it where you want to.
I'm going to bolt the whole thing down to Kentucky so it is hard to move

I'll truck in the gas
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #365 on: May 27, 2017, 02:45:22 PM »
Don, here's an idea you might want to consider.

More often than not these fuel tanks get stuck beside a building or structure. Structures can burn, lighting etc. on my grand dad's farm we mounted our fuel tank to a wooden skid. The idea being in event of fire to the adjacent structure we could hook onto it with vehicle & get it away and save the fuel. Knowing the premise of this location I think it would be a good idea. We built ours from heavy beam and both ends were cut at an angle so we could pull in either direction.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #366 on: May 27, 2017, 03:34:20 PM »
Don, here's an idea you might want to consider.

More often than not these fuel tanks get stuck beside a building or structure. Structures can burn, lighting etc. on my grand dad's farm we mounted our fuel tank to a wooden skid. The idea being in event of fire to the adjacent structure we could hook onto it with vehicle & get it away and save the fuel. Knowing the premise of this location I think it would be a good idea. We built ours from heavy beam and both ends were cut at an angle so we could pull in either direction.
That would probably work, but I just plan to hard mount it down near the woodline. It will be some distance from structures. Afterward I'll cut the trees from around it and slice them up for barn wood.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #367 on: May 28, 2017, 02:05:46 PM »
Still couldn't hurt to make the mount movable, you never know.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #368 on: May 28, 2017, 04:58:58 PM »
Still couldn't hurt to make the mount movable, you never know.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #369 on: June 01, 2017, 07:35:22 PM »
finally remember to haul down the passive solar heating panels and get them mounted
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #370 on: June 01, 2017, 07:38:19 PM »
And, man do they work!

Notice the delta here on the panel that is mostly obscured by the empty water tank...18 degrees. The temp bulb is resting in the upper plenum where hot air is collected then ducted through some holes into the water tank structure. A few minutes before this, the output was 101.4F
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« Reply #371 on: June 01, 2017, 07:42:55 PM »
Then we started on a big clean up and reorganization

There was construction debris scattered, the water tank was parked out front, the banks had caved in and I just felt since we live in that thing when we are farmside, then why not make it look better
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« Reply #372 on: June 01, 2017, 07:45:27 PM »
This pano shot shows the need for some reorganization.

The place does not look like this now after reorganization
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #373 on: June 01, 2017, 07:46:58 PM »
I consolidated all the implements into one area on the side of a field adjacent to the saw mill building
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« Reply #374 on: June 01, 2017, 07:48:56 PM »
Then I dug out the shelf and cut a new access which will be graveled in and a stone retaining wall installed to clean it all up
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #375 on: June 01, 2017, 07:51:00 PM »
Next up, placing the fuel tank.

After much consideration, I don't have a good clue as to where I want to place that rascal, so for now, I'll just skid it up

That should make, like, half of you happy!

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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #376 on: June 01, 2017, 07:53:44 PM »
We moved that tank slowly and with great care...wouldn't want to mess up the show car finish.

Note here. This paint is like the least expensive stuff on earth. Seriously around $20 a gallon on sale. Just add hardener to get a decent glossy finish. My new favorite color, Oliver tractor gray!
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« Reply #377 on: June 01, 2017, 07:57:15 PM »
I just screwed through the angle with four ea. per side #9 X 2 1/2" torx bit screws and called it good to go. I placed it along side the "road" so that I could fuel up Sarge without tearing up terra firma too badly

I'll likely consolidate it into the mill house turning barn structure when the time comes.
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« Reply #378 on: June 01, 2017, 08:00:38 PM »
Next, I leveled and smoothed the ground atop the shelf I built a couple years ago. It is going to become a mulch bed and PPS (Pleasant Place to Sit)

Started already with the wind chimes...My artsy-fartsy side. When I get bored, I use them as .22 targets!
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« Reply #379 on: June 01, 2017, 08:02:36 PM »
As per usual, I add to the toolage about every time I go down there. Give me a few years and I'll have it all too confusing to find anything!
This time: Bolt cutters...everybody needs bolt cutters!
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« Reply #380 on: June 01, 2017, 08:04:30 PM »
We also leveled the water tank shed. It had settled a bit and looked that way...Now it's literally "Squared-away"

It all cleaned up quite nicely!

I also removed the second pile of cedar logs up near the shed, and tore down the four poles for the covered shooting bench. Looking at that thing, I just didn't like it, and I hadn't used concrete so it was rickety...best to just loose it...I did. After moving all those logs and mowing the area, it looked darned nice
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #381 on: June 01, 2017, 08:07:21 PM »
Dog is the same, no mater where he is...
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #382 on: June 01, 2017, 08:10:13 PM »
Funny...This morning I get up and make my quoffee. I'm sitting at the table looking out at the field. There is a deer and four turkeys walking and grazing.

So I let the dog out, and watch.

The turkeys stretched those periscope necks up looking at him and the deer lifted his head, then they just went back to grazing for 20+ minutes until I let the dog back in

Not even turkeys fear that dog...!
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« Reply #383 on: June 01, 2017, 08:29:53 PM »
Nice temp rise and decent organization.

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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #384 on: June 01, 2017, 10:33:17 PM »
Tank skid=great idea

... probably would work better if you rounded off the skids tho. Right now it's probably called a tank drag.

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« Reply #385 on: June 01, 2017, 11:06:20 PM »

Started already with the wind chimes...My artsy-fartsy side. When I get bored, I use them as .22 targets!

Glad to see the artsy-fartsy side.  Balances out the carnage side which seems to be absent this post. Lol.

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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #386 on: June 02, 2017, 08:58:44 AM »
Don, here's an idea you might want to consider.

More often than not these fuel tanks get stuck beside a building or structure. Structures can burn, lighting etc. on my grand dad's farm we mounted our fuel tank to a wooden skid. The idea being in event of fire to the adjacent structure we could hook onto it with vehicle & get it away and save the fuel. Knowing the premise of this location I think it would be a good idea. We built ours from heavy beam and both ends were cut at an angle so we could pull in either direction.
That would probably work, but I just plan to hard mount it down near the woodline. It will be some distance from structures. Afterward I'll cut the trees from around it and slice them up for barn wood.
That sounds like a good plan. Although having it on skids is better than most people's plan, it's not perfect. For example, what if a fire starts on the building wall immediately adjacent to the tank? What about a brush fire encroaching on the building from the tank side? By the time someone realizes what's happening and gets there with a vehicle it may be too hot to connect to the skid, or the brush fire may have cut off access to the skid. In that case (especially in a rural area), you, the building, and everything in the building are screwed. Not to mention the dangers to first responders trying to prevent a BLEVE. If I'm not understanding the situation feel free to disregard.


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« Reply #387 on: June 02, 2017, 10:16:04 AM »
Wait, how long has it been since Don broke something?
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« Reply #388 on: June 02, 2017, 10:17:58 AM »
I won't ask you to divulge anything in a public board where anyone plodding around on the net can see it. But with the serious $ you have invested in equipment at the site and its location which at times would allow bad guys lots of time to do bad things I think a decent security camera system would be in order. I don't know much about them but ones with multiple cameras and run a feed to the cloud on a continuous basis. Maybe with a 3 hour overwrite or something. Plus some I have seen would allow you to see what's going on there from an app. I think they've gotten good enough power wise you could run them from  an inverter, deep cycle battery and solar panel. My thought is have one or two on the driveway so you see anyone who came in poking around. But also a couple looking at the trailer, the shed and the implement parking lot you have (including fuel tank). Just my $0.02 and no need to acknowledge if said system is in place.

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« Reply #389 on: June 02, 2017, 10:29:33 AM »
Nice temp rise and decent organization.

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« Reply #390 on: June 02, 2017, 10:31:06 AM »
Homemade trailer might be a good idea.  Sure can be handy for the 1SG to bring fuel instead of you having to stop work to go get it.
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« Reply #391 on: June 02, 2017, 10:44:13 AM »
Wait, how long has it been since Don broke something?
Yesterday

Was just cutting grass...Nothing any more challenging than that

So I mow over this rock, which grenades and shatters a bunch of smaller rocks everywhere.

Some how one rock flips up on top of the mower deck

The place where all the pulleys and belts are churning.

I had not noticed that not one, but BOTH belt guards has fallen off and are laying out in the pasture. I have run over one of them repeatedly, but at this point I don't know that yet

The rock jams between a pulley and a belt and rips the belt off.

The pulley is dented and the belt which was put on there by a special machine capable of applying one million pounds of stretch to said belt. So I drive over to the shed and start to devise a tool to get that belt back on.

My tool involves a couple screwdrivers...remember the new Northern ones...The ones HigherCaliber said would dissolve in sunlight...those ones?

Well I am prying like a two fat women trying to open the frig door trying to get to a single snickers bar hidden in the ice maker, when the handle of one screw driver comes off, allowing 50,000 pounds of force to spring back and drive the other screwdriver through my finger. I didn't actually feel it at first, it had happened so fast. And it only stabbed in to be correct, did not come out the other side. It was the blade screwdriver that failed and the #2 phillips that stabbed me. So I upped the ante with bigger toolage and accomplished the mission.

I recovered both belt guards, installing one straight away, and after hammering the other back into approximate shape reinstalled it.

Since that time it has fallen off again and I can't find it! The 2720 has been initiated!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #392 on: June 02, 2017, 10:49:29 AM »
I won't ask you to divulge anything in a public board where anyone plodding around on the net can see it. But with the serious $ you have invested in equipment at the site and its location which at times would allow bad guys lots of time to do bad things I think a decent security camera system would be in order. I don't know much about them but ones with multiple cameras and run a feed to the cloud on a continuous basis. Maybe with a 3 hour overwrite or something. Plus some I have seen would allow you to see what's going on there from an app. I think they've gotten good enough power wise you could run them from  an inverter, deep cycle battery and solar panel. My thought is have one or two on the driveway so you see anyone who came in poking around. But also a couple looking at the trailer, the shed and the implement parking lot you have (including fuel tank). Just my $0.02 and no need to acknowledge if said system is in place.
I thought about security

Thought about making a Kintucky security system

Starts with an old gizzer who likes to make moon shine

Get him to set up on the property

He will never leave the property, and no one will come near him for fear of getting shot

I'd give him my old double barrel of course. Darned thing fires both barrels when you pull either trigger

Archaic system, but should work!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #393 on: June 02, 2017, 10:53:35 AM »
There's the missing CARREP.
Coming along nicely Don.

Silly screwdrivers...do you have a set of pry bars?
They would be more appropriate I'd say. Past experience here, I have driven screwdrivers into flesh as well when they break. Pry bars handle the stress better.

I'd also second the security cameras thing, if it is needed.
That I don't know.
The old gizzer would likely work too.
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #394 on: June 02, 2017, 10:58:52 AM »
There's the missing CARREP.
Coming along nicely Don.

Silly screwdrivers...do you have a set of pry bars?
They would be more appropriate I'd say. Past experience here, I have driven screwdrivers into flesh as well when they break. Pry bars handle the stress better.

I'd also second the security cameras thing, if it is needed.
That I don't know.
The old geezer would likely work too.
Give me ten or so years and I'll be an old geezer myself

All I'd need to do is set up a still and I be my own security system...Heck I already own the shotgun!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #395 on: June 02, 2017, 11:10:28 AM »
I like the security camera idea and then an app to your phone with one on the entrance. That way you know when someone comes in and can look at the cameras later if you see them leave with something. Or even better, just run em all to the phone!
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« Reply #396 on: June 02, 2017, 11:25:12 AM »
I have a camera system in my hide/weekend place. Satellite internet is very expensive to constantly stream up images. My system emails me when it detects motion along with a still shot of the image. Then I can use the app to check in via live stream. Total investment $1500 for 9 cameras and NVR. Cameras have 75ft IR
Only advice is NOT to mount cameras on trees. When they sway in the wind the cameras sense motion


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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #397 on: June 02, 2017, 11:26:54 AM »


Well I am prying like a two fat women trying to open the frig door trying to get to a single snickers bar hidden in the ice maker, when the handle of one screw driver comes off, allowing 50,000 pounds of force to spring back and drive the other screwdriver through my finger. I didn't actually feel it at first, it had happened so fast. And it only stabbed in to be correct, did not come out the other side. It was the blade screwdriver that failed and the #2 phillips that stabbed me. So I upped the ante with bigger toolage and accomplished the mission.



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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #398 on: June 02, 2017, 12:00:05 PM »
Not the same design

On mine I had to loosen a bolt to allow full tensioner retraction
At that point the belt would still not slip over the pulley
I had to add some blood and yelling to the operation to get the belt on

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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #399 on: June 02, 2017, 12:29:41 PM »
LOOKIN GOOD DON, AND I LIKE YOUR SECURITY PLAN, BUT IT REMINDS ME OF SOMEONE ;-)

 

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