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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #600 on: July 12, 2017, 04:17:40 PM »
I have same one, I suspect the metal/aluminum bits could be replaced. The big tear, however, will not be so easy if possible to fix.

Liberal application of 100 mph tape will ensure years of usage. While not aesthetically pleasing to gaze upon, HH6 might allow a continuance of service pending a complete overhaul, of course only after Chief pleads his case as to why he failed to secure loose equipment...
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Got some stuck to my hand last year and its still stuck there!
Well, maybe not, but it's good stuff

Plan is to just pull it off the trailer and put up a metal roof and small deck and connect that to the gazebo/trellis/roof thing
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #601 on: July 12, 2017, 04:19:57 PM »
I picked up two-3,000 gallon water storage tanks today

Nasty looking things, I am about to apply lots of high pressure water to them.

Interesting find and story, Thank you Brian! I purchased them at a really great price, but they need some work

Let the spraying begin

Pics after the work.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #602 on: July 12, 2017, 09:56:13 PM »
Here they are as i found them, sitting behind this restored early Federal house in the hills near Cincinnati. This neighborhood was amazing with so many large, elegant homes and impeccable landscaping. The gentleman, Brian who advertised the tanks is the same one who installed the extensive landscape
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #603 on: July 12, 2017, 10:01:43 PM »
I felt sort of bad after looking them over. They were not the sort of tank I thought they were. They were, however super heavy duty 3,000 gallon water storage tanks, but used these huge 4" bulkhead fittings to access the water inside.
I decided I would pass them by since the $600 each we had agreed on was too much in my opinion. I did offer $500 for both of them knowing I wouldn't have any chance to purchase them, and frankly, I had already switched mental gears to purchase a new 3K tank from TSC.
But the gentleman who owned them agreed and just like that, I owned two 3K tanks!

THe guys working there rolled them out onto the street where we loaded both onto the trailer and I strapped them down.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #604 on: July 12, 2017, 10:03:13 PM »
Those things just dwarf my Chevy!

I drove no faster than 62mph and after maybe 45 minutes, I had the tanks back in my driveway
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #605 on: July 12, 2017, 10:05:17 PM »
I had opted to pick up a long spray pipe for the pressure washer so I could reach everything from the outside, but that wasn't to be. Cleaning the inside involves a trip through that little hatch!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #606 on: July 12, 2017, 10:06:38 PM »
Wow....those are beasts. Cool price too!

I just wish for a day I had a bug in your neighbor's kitchens every time you come wheeling in with something like this.  :grin: Dang I would pay to hear those conversations.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #607 on: July 12, 2017, 10:08:34 PM »
These things have sat in a wooded area, above ground, for years. They were a reservoir for collected rain water that was used in a lawn sprinkler system. The good part in all that is that the tanks have only ever had water in them. The bad part is that they were heavily soiled and stained and had a lot of algae and mud on the inside.

It took hours, but the grime started to yield
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #608 on: July 12, 2017, 10:09:59 PM »
Wow....those are beasts. Cool price too!

I just wish for a day I had a bug in your neighbor's kitchens every time you come wheeling in with something like this.  :grin: Dang I would pay to hear those conversations.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #609 on: July 12, 2017, 10:12:55 PM »
This is the "Cleaner" tank after washing number 1.

The technique is to wash everything you can get to and try and rinse it out the 4" hole I positioned at the bottom. Then crawl inside and get close and personal.

Remember this is only one cleaning. The next set will show the really dirty tank after the inside spraying
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« Reply #610 on: July 12, 2017, 10:15:28 PM »
And the nasty tank with all the sediment before and after a lot of spraying

As in two gas tank of gas in the pressure washer!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #611 on: July 12, 2017, 10:19:35 PM »
The rust stains are permanent and cause no harm what so ever.

THe tank looks great now and ready to be taken down farmside. I'll do the approximate placement, then slap down a couple coats of green paint to make them algae proof.

I think I might just paint the south side flat black to help with heating in the winter...

I scrubbed up the bulkhead fittings as well. I was going to order new rubber gaskets, but, frankly, the originals look great still.

Those are some big fittings and cost around $100 each!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #612 on: July 12, 2017, 10:21:00 PM »
I still have to wash out the inside of tank one, but other than that, I am nearly done with them and ready to tie them down and transport to the farm.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #613 on: July 12, 2017, 10:54:46 PM »
Once installed an hooked up, these will put me at a little over 8,000 gallons of water storage.

I think a couple more 3K or 5K will do the trick. I wanted to settle in on around 20,000 gallons total capacity, but this will be a good interim capacity.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #614 on: July 12, 2017, 11:51:11 PM »
Wow, nice score!

How 'bout filling them and add a couple gallons of bleach just to be on the safe side?
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #615 on: July 13, 2017, 02:46:07 AM »
Yep, great score. Half of what you do reminds me of the "dirty jobs" show.

So did you wash them or assign a pre ranger to it?
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #616 on: July 13, 2017, 07:13:29 AM »
^^^He would like us to believe that he climbed in there!

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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #617 on: July 13, 2017, 09:39:47 AM »
Yep, great score. Half of what you do reminds me of the "dirty jobs" show.

So did you wash them or assign a pre ranger to it?
Did it meself!
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« Reply #618 on: July 13, 2017, 09:42:13 AM »
Wow, nice score!

How 'bout filling them and add a couple gallons of bleach just to be on the safe side?
Copy that

Once they are cleaned, I'll spray some bleach/water dilute onto the inside walls and any dog that comes close by, and of course the mud-daubers...I spray them with everything!

Then farm side, when I get the well pump plumbed and running, the first fill of the tanks will be with water destined to pressure wash heavy equipment, and grandkids!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #619 on: July 13, 2017, 09:43:31 AM »
^^^He would like us to believe that he climbed in there!

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I really did!

Now, I have to say, it was a bit claustrophobic going through an opening a bit smaller than me, but after dislocating a couple of shoulders, I fit just fine! ;-)
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #620 on: July 13, 2017, 12:31:06 PM »
Pics or it didn't happen!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #621 on: July 13, 2017, 02:08:23 PM »
Pics or it didn't happen!

This ^^^^ I have climbed into one of those and I'm a little fellar and it wasn't the easiest!

That's a smoking deal kind of score! And I'm glad I don't live in a normal neighborhood. I like my peace and quiet, and ability to do as I please, you know gutting trucks and such shooting jack rabbits because they destroy my yard, a scrap built chicken coop, the normal stuff many of us here do!

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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #622 on: July 13, 2017, 07:36:09 PM »
Curious Don. With all you have invested in that place why don't you have a well drilled?


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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #623 on: July 13, 2017, 09:34:13 PM »
Curious Don. With all you have invested in that place why don't you have a well drilled?


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I simply don't need one.
I have a perfectly functioning 150 year old well, and soon I will collect rain water. A well would be the department of redundancy department

In addition to those, I have two ponds now, the one I am currently working on, and the other which will get the full treatment in the not too distant future.

Push come to shove, they are water sources as well.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #624 on: July 13, 2017, 09:35:40 PM »
Pics or it didn't happen!
Oh it happened, and again today!

Can't haul a camera in there, spray would kill my new Canon quick.
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« Reply #625 on: July 13, 2017, 09:37:04 PM »
Pics or it didn't happen!
Oh it happened, and again today!

Can't haul a camera in there, spray would kill my new Canon quick.

Get one of the prerangers to snap one from the outside while your headed in! As I'm sure they'd get a kick out of watching you squirm through the hole to get inside and scrub!

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« Reply #626 on: July 13, 2017, 09:47:33 PM »
Pics or it didn't happen!
Oh it happened, and again today!

Can't haul a camera in there, spray would kill my new Canon quick.

Get one of the prerangers to snap one from the outside while your headed in! As I'm sure they'd get a kick out of watching you squirm through the hole to get inside and scrub!
I would have but they are both away with their mom on vacation

Yea, I stayed home...

Needed to get a lot of stuff done on the farm and for some other reasons, so no one is here to hold the camera

But since we are on the subject, when I get them placed at the farm, I will need to reinstall the fittings. That can only be done from the inside. So, other than laying them on their sides to get in, and that just may be the easiest thing to do, I am wondering just how I will crawl in from the top???

I'm thinking this is a job for a pre-ranger. Get a "Hey-You" volunteer and send them in there. All they would need to do is to hold the fitting while I tighten the nut from the outside...

Yep, sounding like a pre-ranger sort of task, more and more
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #627 on: July 13, 2017, 09:55:24 PM »
I pulled the lid seats to get a wee bit more room to squeeze inside the tanks, which afforded me the opportunity to clean all that up nicely and to put some washers behind the screw heads. Some screws had already pulled through the flange, but now everything is back up to spec
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #628 on: July 13, 2017, 09:56:06 PM »
Ain't nuthin wrong with staying home with nothing to demand your time, and have some time to focus on God without interruptions.


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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #629 on: July 13, 2017, 09:58:24 PM »
The tanks got one more pressure washing, and at this point, no more stain is coming off, so I declare it done for now

I positioned a chair and a short piece of plywood to allow me to scoot inside more easily. Ease being a relative term...relative to, let's say taking a beating during one of my security training classes.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #630 on: July 13, 2017, 09:59:42 PM »
This is about good as it gets
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #631 on: July 13, 2017, 10:03:10 PM »
It has a bunch of holes to use for various things. I will likely cap off most of them.

I think I'll have the well pump water into one tank, and have a manifold connecting the other tank. I will pull water from tank number two, and monitor tank one for cleanliness.

I want to set up a heavy equipment wash station, so I'll probably use one of the fittings to provide a bigger diameter line to the pressure washer
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« Reply #632 on: July 13, 2017, 10:03:57 PM »
The fittings "fit" quite nicely
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #633 on: July 13, 2017, 10:04:55 PM »
All tied down and ready for transport!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #634 on: July 13, 2017, 11:31:32 PM »
They certainly cleaned up pretty good.
You maybe could try a portable sprayer to shoot some bleach in, but really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. And there's a good possibility it won't do anything more anyhow.

A beauty of a score none the less.
Those big fittings are definitely spendy.
May want to reduce to two inch stuff, still carry a lot of volume, but not break the bank for tying together and making a manifold of sorts.
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #635 on: July 14, 2017, 12:17:01 AM »
They certainly cleaned up pretty good.
You maybe could try a portable sprayer to shoot some bleach in, but really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. And there's a good possibility it won't do anything more anyhow.

A beauty of a score none the less.
Those big fittings are definitely spendy.
May want to reduce to two inch stuff, still carry a lot of volume, but not break the bank for tying together and making a manifold of sorts.

I'm going to bring the manifold down to 2", then down to 1 1/4 to 1" for various plumbing.

Eventually I'll mount a 115VAC pressure pump and run either a 3/4" or a 1" line all the way up to the shed area.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #636 on: July 14, 2017, 12:25:07 AM »
They certainly cleaned up pretty good.
You maybe could try a portable sprayer to shoot some bleach in, but really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. And there's a good possibility it won't do anything more anyhow.

A beauty of a score none the less.
Those big fittings are definitely spendy.
May want to reduce to two inch stuff, still carry a lot of volume, but not break the bank for tying together and making a manifold of sorts.

I'm going to bring the manifold down to 2", then down to 1 1/4 to 1" for various plumbing.

Eventually I'll mount a 115VAC pressure pump and run either a 3/4" or a 1" line all the way up to the shed area.

Chief, not sure how long the run will be from your tanks to the shed, but if it's much farther than 100' I recommend 1" simply to keep pressure. I did a run of 3/4" from near the house to the coop, 110' or so feet, I notice the difference. Then I added another 200 or so feet to the garden in 3/4" with two 90* bends in it, most certainly wish I would have went 1".

I'm not a hydrologist nor did I stay anywhere last night that might have made me smarter, so this could just be a placebo effect my brain is making up....

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« Reply #637 on: July 14, 2017, 01:19:12 AM »
I can see it now. There is Don on the farm squeezing in (nice HF chair BTW) and it starts to roll. Ends up in the pond with his body weight acting like a bobber in the tank.

Most camera's do have a timer or video mod?

I slept in the woods night before and still came up with that,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Worst part was my oldest threw a uneaten hot dog out by camp. I knew I heard something walking around about 5am  :facepalm:
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« Reply #638 on: July 14, 2017, 01:48:07 AM »
Those openings just look so small! Don't know how you manage to squeeze in there!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #639 on: July 14, 2017, 10:07:11 AM »
I think cut the top off of one and use it as a hot tub! 


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« Reply #640 on: July 14, 2017, 11:12:40 AM »
I think cut the top off of one and use it as a hot tub! 


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« Reply #641 on: July 14, 2017, 11:14:08 AM »
They certainly cleaned up pretty good.
You maybe could try a portable sprayer to shoot some bleach in, but really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. And there's a good possibility it won't do anything more anyhow.

A beauty of a score none the less.
Those big fittings are definitely spendy.
May want to reduce to two inch stuff, still carry a lot of volume, but not break the bank for tying together and making a manifold of sorts.

I'm going to bring the manifold down to 2", then down to 1 1/4 to 1" for various plumbing.

Eventually I'll mount a 115VAC pressure pump and run either a 3/4" or a 1" line all the way up to the shed area.

Chief, not sure how long the run will be from your tanks to the shed, but if it's much farther than 100' I recommend 1" simply to keep pressure. I did a run of 3/4" from near the house to the coop, 110' or so feet, I notice the difference. Then I added another 200 or so feet to the garden in 3/4" with two 90* bends in it, most certainly wish I would have went 1".

I'm not a hydrologist nor did I stay anywhere last night that might have made me smarter, so this could just be a placebo effect my brain is making up....
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That's all I needed to hear. Was thinking I should go for the 1". Distance is around 800 feet.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #642 on: July 14, 2017, 11:14:45 AM »
I can see it now. There is Don on the farm squeezing in (nice HF chair BTW) and it starts to roll. Ends up in the pond with his body weight acting like a bobber in the tank.

I was not a Besvis and Butt head fan but I did see one clip of one of them rolling down a hill in a big tire....made me think of that.  :facepalm:  :laugh:

I agree getting enough pump (and proper sizing) to keep pressure strong wherever you run it. I wss thinking for fire suppression too although I'm guessing a gas powered pump from the pond would be better than using thsee tanks for that. You can buy used fire hose cheap as departments replace them all the time used or not.

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« Reply #643 on: July 14, 2017, 11:17:11 AM »
I can see it now. There is Don on the farm squeezing in (nice HF chair BTW) and it starts to roll. Ends up in the pond with his body weight acting like a bobber in the tank.

I was not a Besvis and Butt head fan but I did see one clip of one of them rolling down a hill in a big tire....made me think of that.  :facepalm:  :laugh:

I agree getting enough pump (and proper sizing) to keep pressure strong wherever you run it. I wss thinking for fire suppression too although I'm guessing a gas powered pump from the pond would be better than using thsee tanks for that. You can buy used fire hose cheap as departments replace them all the time used or not.
That's true...about the fire hose.

I serve on the board of the local fire district. The firemen replace hose all the time. I am constantly voting to allocate funds to either test it or replace it.
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« Reply #644 on: July 14, 2017, 11:23:38 AM »


"I'm not a hydrologist nor did I stay anywhere last night that might have made me smarter, so this could just be a placebo effect my brain is making up...."

I was going to ask if the holiday inn express was as nice as they look, lol.
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« Reply #645 on: July 14, 2017, 11:25:43 AM »
Chief, all joking aside, there's not a lot of flat KY ground at your place. I assume you're excavating the site prior to placement etc, but how much do those things weigh?? did you load them yourself or leave them on the trailer during cleaning?
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« Reply #646 on: July 14, 2017, 12:57:01 PM »
800 ft, I would do 2 inch for sure and tap off as needed using 1 inch.
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« Reply #647 on: July 14, 2017, 02:06:46 PM »
2" wouldn't be a bad idea, because then if you had trash pump for one of the ponds you could have everything being uniform and just have to worry about buying one size of hoses and fittings. Then at the shed and living quarters do your one step down to 1".

Like this type of connector:

Anderson Process 2" X 50' Layflat PVC Water Discharge Hose Assembly w/ Cam Lock Fitt... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OVFHS1O/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_c_api_JEqAzb7C6MNPZ

So every 150-200' put a T that you could connect these quick connect hoses to, for whatever washing watering fire suppressing that is needed!


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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #648 on: July 15, 2017, 11:18:27 PM »
Chief, all joking aside, there's not a lot of flat KY ground at your place. I assume you're excavating the site prior to placement etc, but how much do those things weigh?? did you load them yourself or leave them on the trailer during cleaning?
I have set them on firm level ground for now, but I think a load of gravel with some grading, then set them on some sand laid on top of the gravel

I moved them by hand. Hard to know the weight, but really heavy is a term that fits here. by wiggling them you can get a bit of rotation which over time and sore muscles results in the clock change to get the outlet hole on the bottom to hose the junk out
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« Reply #649 on: July 15, 2017, 11:20:46 PM »
First thing after getting to the Hide was to cut a circular area around the well to search out a good site for the tanks

When I located it, I parked the trailer as close as I could then pushed and shoved until the tanks were off the trailer and standing up
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