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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #900 on: August 13, 2017, 09:27:25 PM »
To help me square the thing up from the get-go, I screwed in these corner blocks to create the "Squarest" starting point I could. It was pretty close only requiring a bit of adjustment. In the end I was inside 1/4" difference between either corner measurement so I settled on that.
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« Reply #901 on: August 13, 2017, 09:30:20 PM »
The subfloor framing is all 2 X 10. The band is pressure treated and the rest is SYP

There are no nails in the framing, You can see the number of screws used. Here I am using #9, 3" deck screws, however in the unsupported joists, I switched to #10 3 1/2 inch
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« Reply #902 on: August 13, 2017, 09:33:23 PM »
With the thing squared up, the best I could get it, The band box was screwed to the piers through simple "L" brackets with Tapcon concrete screws. The Dewalt 20 volt ratcheting driver made quick work of them and made that box as solid as a baptist refusing to attend a pentecostal church!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #903 on: August 13, 2017, 09:35:29 PM »
Not only was it square but darned if after a wee bit of shimming it was level as well.

Definitely not the norm for my building skills, but I guess I screwed this one up (get it...screwed it up...) and got it straight
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #904 on: August 13, 2017, 09:37:42 PM »
Next, in go the joists, held up by metal joist hangers and also with screws run through the plates

Those are 5". 1/4" structural wood screws. They were complimented with two 3.5" screws
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« Reply #905 on: August 13, 2017, 09:38:43 PM »
Then the rest of the joists were added to the "generator end" of the room
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #906 on: August 13, 2017, 09:39:59 PM »
Next up, the area for the water tank was boxed in
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #907 on: August 13, 2017, 09:41:10 PM »
Then the test fit, with more gravel added, but not up to the proper level yet
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« Reply #908 on: August 13, 2017, 09:44:00 PM »
With the tank sitting there and roughly centered, I measured for the corner-fillin' pieces, then glued them in there with a bunch of too-long wood screws. For the morons out there (Democrats who have never picked up a hammer) the screws are not actually made from wood!
Sorry if I offended...Well, actually, guess I really don't care, but, OK where were we?
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« Reply #909 on: August 13, 2017, 09:45:55 PM »
Yet those side-winders are only 2 X 6 and douglas fir at that...Just wanted to give some building inspector if one is readin', the cold shivers!
Then the gravel was topped up and the sheetin' began!
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« Reply #910 on: August 13, 2017, 09:47:33 PM »
Before long, and after two new blisters and half a thousand 2.5" wood screws (Made from metal) the decking was providing shade so that the carpenter bees could work away in comfort!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #911 on: August 13, 2017, 09:49:32 PM »
With the tank dropped in there with the gravel at the height I liked, the fit was OK by my reckonin'

Later on, I'll fashion a soft collar for the tank to keep the spiders separated from the roaches and the wasps.
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« Reply #912 on: August 13, 2017, 09:50:56 PM »
Concept is to create some soft but sealing collar, then whip up a door/hatch to gain access to the leaks that will occur at the bulkhead fitting
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #913 on: August 13, 2017, 09:53:25 PM »
Now, the original plan was to add an eight foot wall to that, then a shed roof from the shed wall outward

But why not add an extra room on top your rain collection room when you have the chance, I always say!

So all it would involve is about 150% more work and expense and cause me to rip off part of a pretty new roof

Makes perfect sense to me!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #914 on: August 13, 2017, 09:57:11 PM »
Oh, and got some grass cut as well!

Wife started to cut the grass, but after maybe 20 minutes, she got the tractor stuck, got frustrated, climbed in the GJ and departed stage left.

I checked, she had dropped a front tire into a hold and didn't shift the thing into 4WD. I pushed the lever until the green light came on and drove right out...

I finished the grass after doing everything else!

Now, I'm not saying anything here, but mine is not all that mechanically inclined. I asked her a couple of things about her GJ coming home from the Bengals game, Friday, and she couldn't answer any of them...
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #915 on: August 13, 2017, 10:19:39 PM »
Thats a lot of work there BD. Looking good.

See you haven't got to the trailer awning yet.

You going to put something around the edge of the gravel to stabilize it so the tank doesn't keep pushing it out? Lots of lbs there!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #916 on: August 13, 2017, 10:31:47 PM »
Don, I think I would use real anchors of 1/2" diameter or larger variety to mount the building base to those pylons. Along with a heavier bracket, tapcons are ok for some things but I question whether what you have currently is enough. Otherwise, march on & it looks nice!
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« Reply #917 on: August 13, 2017, 10:39:56 PM »
I agree Sean. Some nice corner plates with a few of these and it will never move. Specially with another floor on there and some wind!

I like the SDS bolts with hangers.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #918 on: August 13, 2017, 10:59:51 PM »
OK, I'll look into it
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #919 on: August 13, 2017, 11:03:07 PM »
What laser lever do you use, is that a rotary? I am thinking of one that doesn't break the bank.
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« Reply #920 on: August 13, 2017, 11:08:50 PM »
What laser lever do you use, is that a rotary? I am thinking of one that doesn't break the bank.
Cheapo Dewalt I picked up at SLOWES. Only cost around $40

Does NOT work well in sunlight. TO use it I have to heavily shadow the target, then mark the barely visible red line with a pencil.
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It worked
Bubble in level was dead center!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #922 on: August 13, 2017, 11:30:05 PM »
I agree Sean. Some nice corner plates with a few of these and it will never move. Specially with another floor on there and some wind!

I like the SDS bolts with hangers.

Agreed JR, exactly what I was thinking that I would use.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #923 on: August 14, 2017, 09:55:24 AM »
I'm a big fan of all thread and the super strength concrete epoxy.  Works well.


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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #924 on: August 14, 2017, 10:05:30 AM »
I'm a big fan of all thread and the super strength concrete epoxy.  Works well.


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For the record, I believe this is stronger than what JR mentioned. I know 20 years ago in high stress conditions we used a special all thread & epoxy on a job. The engineer determined this was the better choice for that job. The bolt was running horizontal out from a concrete wall
rather than vertical as Don's use. Since then I have used hundreds of what JR is selling for all sorts of applications.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #925 on: August 14, 2017, 10:18:21 AM »
What laser lever do you use, is that a rotary? I am thinking of one that doesn't break the bank.
Cheapo Dewalt I picked up at SLOWES. Only cost around $40

Does NOT work well in sunlight. TO use it I have to heavily shadow the target, then mark the barely visible red line with a pencil.
But
It worked
Bubble in level was dead center!

I have an older, maybe non current DeWalt unit.
It is a three beam, each selectable.
You want the beams and not just points.

I think it ran around a couple hundred up here.

It has been awesome as well.
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #926 on: August 14, 2017, 12:04:06 PM »
Hide site, retirement site.

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Here's where I anchored mine with the epoxy. Can get it at slowes or home despot it's a two part epoxy in a single tube. Follow instruction and it's actually stronger than the concrete. You'll pull a chunk out of the concrete with the bolt and epoxy before the epoxy fails.


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« Reply #927 on: August 14, 2017, 12:41:47 PM »
I'm a big fan of all thread and the super strength concrete epoxy.  Works well.


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That is what we used on my garage build. Went around every 3ft of the original frame and 3/4 rod into the new sections.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #928 on: August 19, 2017, 10:36:06 PM »
Got some time on the building project today. Punched two holes for the anchor for the upcoming steps into the structure.

Somehow the auger moved and punched one of the holes 5" off center from where it was supposed to be. I tried to correct it by shortening the concrete tube and scooting it in the right direction a bit, but the darned thing is still off some!
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« Reply #929 on: August 19, 2017, 10:37:16 PM »
Hard to spot here, but the downhill hole in too close to the building. I'm going to have to get creative with the building of the steps
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #930 on: August 19, 2017, 10:38:28 PM »
At least it got level from one pier to the other.

Next I am about to lay down some epoxy onto the OSB floor before erecting the walls
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« Reply #931 on: August 19, 2017, 10:39:59 PM »
THis is new to me

The epoxy comes in two bags separated by a seal.
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« Reply #932 on: August 19, 2017, 10:42:45 PM »
If you start to roll the large pouch toward the smaller one, the seal separating either is broken and the contents mix freely.

I kneaded the "bag-o-paint for awhile, then snipped a corner off. No dog was nearby to allow me to test the coverage on its nose, so I just started spreadin' the stuff like butter on an everything bagel.
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« Reply #933 on: August 19, 2017, 10:44:53 PM »
If you look closely, you can see that not all of the two parts mixed. And I kneaded it for a full minute.

And with the slight of hand and just like that, it was all coated with two coats, and even overlaid with pixie dust.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #934 on: August 19, 2017, 10:46:10 PM »
I like all the speckles because it helps hide nuts, clips, washers, and other things I drop, making it nearly impossible to find them...That's fun wouldn't you agree?
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Re: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 4
« Reply #935 on: August 19, 2017, 10:49:10 PM »
Next up, I took Sarge for a hike.

He was agreeable and wanted to bust up some kentucky dirt.

I decided to get on the road, well, path, or whatever and improve some of the rougher sections. I cut the path perhaps two feet wider, then carefully laid back the embankment. I finally figured out the technique and was being rewarded with some decent sloping and piles of dirt which were rounded off and tracked in as well.
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« Reply #936 on: August 19, 2017, 10:50:42 PM »
I think I might have cleaned up a few hundred feet of embankment before I was seeing the waning of the sun and threw in the towel.
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« Reply #937 on: August 19, 2017, 10:52:33 PM »
I put Sarge up in the shadow of that tree which I can't decide whether I like it or not.

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« Reply #938 on: August 19, 2017, 10:53:15 PM »
Decals are holding up well
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« Reply #939 on: August 19, 2017, 10:54:03 PM »
The peaceful end to a productive day:
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« Reply #940 on: August 19, 2017, 10:59:05 PM »
There for a minute in that one pic I was thunkin you & Sarge got lost in the woods again..... :popcorn:
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« Reply #941 on: August 19, 2017, 11:02:19 PM »
There for a minute in that one pic I was thunkin you & Sarge got lost in the woods again..... :popcorn:
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« Reply #942 on: August 19, 2017, 11:03:34 PM »
Who attacked who?

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« Reply #943 on: August 19, 2017, 11:32:40 PM »
Dang that is purdy land,,,,,,,,,

Like the coating, good idea for the treehouse!
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« Reply #944 on: August 20, 2017, 08:42:45 AM »
Looking like you removed that outcrop that tried to take out the steps of my camper?  Saw the kids motorcycle  and thought you'd taken your super bike out for a cruise....getting to be that time of year!
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« Reply #945 on: August 20, 2017, 11:13:55 AM »
There for a minute in that one pic I was thunkin you & Sarge got lost in the woods again..... :popcorn:

lets clarify shawn.......privates, occifers (like lieutenants) and warrant occifers are the ones that get lost because they don't know how to land navigate.....the Sergeants are the ones who have to go and save them.

so I think it would be safe to say that SARGE probably heard the old man crying and screaming because he was 5 feet from the road and was lost......
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« Reply #946 on: August 20, 2017, 12:59:08 PM »
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« Reply #947 on: August 20, 2017, 04:56:19 PM »
get that road widened and leveled so you can get that 26 ton belly dump in there with rock....
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« Reply #948 on: August 20, 2017, 05:38:25 PM »
get that road widened and leveled so you can get that 26 ton belly dump in there with rock....
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« Reply #949 on: August 21, 2017, 11:03:47 AM »
get that road widened and leveled so you can get that 26 ton belly dump in there with rock....
Yessir!

So this means your not getting a hauling and dumping device? Which is understandable after your recent experience with the trailer manufacturers.

 

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